Thoughts On Draft Day No. 2 … Saturday Cup O’Chiefs

From the Truman Sports Complex

There’s so much to talk about with all the decisions that went down on Friday in rounds two and three of the 2010 NFL Draft.

The Chiefs alone produced plenty of discussion points, but we’ll save those for the next few days as they have two more picks to make and heaven knows what else might happen. You’ve got to hand it to GM Scott Pioli: he loves to trade picks so he can draft tight ends.

Last year, he traded the 2010 seventh-round pick to Miami so he could get back into the ’09 seventh-round to take TE Jake O’Connell. Then on Friday, he gave up fourth and fifth-round choices to move back into the late third round to take Iowa TE Tony Moeaki.

That leaves the Chiefs with just two choices early in the fifth round, and no picks in the fourth, sixth and seventh rounds.

One other Draft Day No. 2 note: once the 50th pick was made there was finally closure on last year’s trade of Tony Gonzalez to Atlanta. It came down to Gonzalez for CB-Returner Javier Arenas. Little Javy has some big shoes to fill.

WHEELIN’ AND DEALIN’ BILLY BELICHICK

Sure Pioli made a deal to get back into the late third round. That was his only move in the two-day draft. That’s nothing compared to his old boss Bill Belichick with the Patriots.

By the time the smoke cleared in the third round Friday night, New England had traded eight different draft choices and accumulated 10 more. They made deals with six different teams – Denver, Oakland, Houston, Arizona, Dallas and Carolina – and still drafted five players by the end of the night: CB Devin McCourty, TE Rob Gronkowski, LBs Jermaine Cunningham and Brandon Spikes and WR Taylor Price.

And get this: they have an extra first and second-round picks for next year’s draft already in the bank. It’s Oakland’s first and Carolina’s second-rounder.

Now, that’s an awful lot of moving around. The question now will be what actually comes from the shaking and baking. Remember, it’s been six years since the Patriots have won a Super Bowl. All the trading and shuffling is fine, if it produces victories in January.

If not, it’s just draft self-flagellation.

UPDATING THE TRADE SCOREBOARD

Three rounds of draft choices that were available for trade; remember compensatory picks cannot be traded.

Here’s the scoreboard in the NFL swap meet so far:

  • Tradeable picks – 96
  • Picks traded – 38
  • Total trades – 57

Going into today’s start of Day No. 3, there have already been 16 trades involving selections in the fourth round.

CAROLINA ON JIMMY’S MIND

By the time it was all done and the Carolina Panthers had selected Jimmy Clausen with the 48th choice, the Notre Dame QB and his family breathed a sigh of relief that their wait was over.

In the end, however, the whole scenario may be very good for Clausen. Carolina is the perfect spot for a young quarterback to begin establishing his career. The fan base is good, but not rabid and insulting of their players. Charlotte is off the beaten track and does not have a lot of prying media like a bigger market might force him to deal with.

Matt Moore is the starting quarterback and former veteran passer Jake Delhomme is gone, so Clausen won’t be put in a position where he’s chasing away the guy who started in the Super Bowl for the Panthers.

There are only two negatives: the future of head coach John Fox is pretty shaky at this point and money. Clausen lost a lot of money in 24 hours from Thursday to Friday. Had he been drafted near the top of the first round like some mock drafters suggested, he would have enjoyed a contract in the neighborhood of what Mark Sanchez got last year at the No. 5 pick from the Jets: five years, $44.5 million with a chance for more through incentives. It included $28 million in guaranteed money.

Last year’s No. 48 pick was DB Darcel McBath by Denver, who signed a four-year, $3.85 million deal with $2.01 in guaranteed money.

His fall cost Clausen some $40 million and change.

TAYLOR MAYS SWIFTLY BURNS HIS PETE CARROLL BRIDGE

It wasn’t so much that Southern Cal safety Taylor Mays was unhappy that he was selected by San Francisco with the 49th choice. In fact, he was thrilled to be able to follow in the footsteps of another safety Ronnie Lott, who went from the Trojans to the Niners to the Hall of Fame.

What had Mays angry was the fact he didn’t feel like he got the truth from his former college coach Pete Carroll, now the head man in Seattle. The Seahawks used their second choice of the first round to take a safety, Earl Thomas out of Texas.

Mays thinks that should have been him, based on what he heard from Carroll.

“I felt he told me the complete opposite of the actions that he took, which was definitely alarming,” Mays told reporters in San Francisco on a telephone conference call on Friday. “Some things that he told me I needed to do as a football player, versus the actions that he took and who he took as a safety. I understand it’s a business, but with it being a business, you just need to be honest and that’s all I was asking for.”

Carroll said he understands why Mays was upset.

“I’d like to pick all my guys, but it just didn’t work out, and unfortunately for Taylor, it was a hard day for him,” Carroll told the media in Seattle. “His expectations were very, very high, and mine, too. So I feel for him. But I know what he’s going to be like. He’s going to be ferocious about going about this opportunity with San Francisco. Unfortunately, he’s in the division so we’re going to be battling against him and all that. This is a remarkably competitive guy, and prideful, and I’m sure he’s got a chip on his shoulder.”

PERSONNEL UPDATE FOR FRIDAY, APRIL 23

Draft Day #2 Trades

  • Buccaneers got pick No. 39 from the Raiders for pick No. 42 and No. 153 in the fifth round.
  • Patriots got pick No. 42 from the Raiders for pick No. 44 and No. 190 in the sixth round.
  • Cardinals received pick No. 47 from the Patriots for pick No. 58 and No. 89 in the third round.
  • Texans received pick No. 62 and pick No. 93 in the third round from the Vikings for pick No. 51.
  • Cowboys got pick No. 55 from the Eagles for pick No. 59 and No. 125 in the fourth round.
  • Patriots received pick No. 62 and No. 150 in the fifth round from the Texans for pick No. 58.
  • Browns got pick No. 59 from the Eagles for pick No. 71 in the third round, pick No. 134 and 146 in the fifth round.
  • Eagles received pick No. 86 and No. 122 in the fourth round from the Packers for pick No. 71.
  • 49ers got pick No. 91, No. 173 in the sixth round and a fourth-round choice in 2011 from the Chargers for pick No. 79.
  • Panthers received pick No. 89 from the Patriots for a 2011 second-round selection.
  • Chiefs received pick No. 93 from the Texans for pick No. 102 in the fourth round and No. 144 in the fifth round.

37 Responses to “Thoughts On Draft Day No. 2 … Saturday Cup O’Chiefs”

  • April 24, 2010  - » Chiefs News Chiefs Update | Chiefs Football At Bobgretz.Com Save Gas, Eat Beans! says:

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  • April 24, 2010  - MenInRed says:

    WTF??? Happened to our 2nd round? 3rd round was ok for who they took by postion but the 2nd?

    No NT or LB which I thought was area of need and you cant tell me there wasnt available talent at that level for our value at picks 36 & 50.

    The Chiefs were rated 31st out of 32 teams on Run Def., but no we picked RB & CB that neither will be starters. They will be Special Teamers at best in 2010, sure we need help there but thats not what made us the 31st run def and all the 2nd rounds should of been starters!

    Well at least we got Berry and I guess you can still say we will never know what Piolo is thinking….

    5-11 in 2010
    Poor Chiefs…


  • April 24, 2010  - The Morning Fix: Day 3, Tired Blogger Edition | Arrowhead Addict | A Kansas City Chiefs blog says:

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  • April 24, 2010  - pharmer says:

    I think that day 2 of this draft told us that Pioli/Haley/Romeo think that a lot of last year’s defensive problems had less to do with talent and more to do with coaching.


  • April 24, 2010  - Indplschiefsfan says:

    Some thoughts…

    Either Berry or Okung would have been good choices for the Chiefs, and they took Berry. Given where we’re at on the O and D, I agree with it. I’ve said for quite some time we are only 2 or 3 players away on D from being the formidable Defense we Chiefs fans expect. So, 1st round I give the Chiefs an “A”.

    And then we get to the 2nd round… I’m scratching my head. McCluster? A small RB? Yes, he’s versatile, and has big play potential, but with glaring needs on the O-line and D-line, we take a RB??? And then, Arenas… with Cody still available? Memo to Pioli/Haley/Crennel: A good CB does you no good without pressure on the QB, or run stopping capability in the middle. Obviously, the Chiefs (a la Pioli/Haley) are taking a BPA attitude in the draft. I’ll get to that in a bit.

    3rd round… Asamoah is going to prove to be the best bargain in the Chiefs draft this year (you heard it here first). A+ for this pick. And then… WTF???? Is Pioli constantly on the lookout for the next Tony G???? What is his fascination with TE’s???? Siiiiiiiiiiiiigh. Overall a “D” in the 3rd rd.

    Now, as for the Chiefs BPA (Best Player Available) attitude they are showing: This is the attitude you take when your core team is established, and you’re competitive (re: winning). Obviously, the Chiefs ain’t there yet. We missed some great opportunities for D-line and LB help. Bottom line? I have mixed feelings. A “C” so far in this draft. We still have glaring weaknesses, most notably on the D-line. With a weak schedule we are probably a .500 team next year, with the few really good teams on our schedule exposing us for what we will really be: Another sub-.500 team benefiting from a weak schedule. I certainly hope Pioli/Haley are shrewder than I’ve given them credit for…


  • April 24, 2010  - Mike in MO says:

    I’m disgusted! I’m beginning to think that Pioli’s reputation was more a reflection of Belechick’s smarts than his own. Eric Berry: Outstanding pick. Round 2: Basically a waste. I
    agree that we need a kick return guy, but why draft two of them with that skill when there are so many other positions of need? I like the choice of Asamoah in round 3. He can be groomed as a successor to Waters. Why draft a tight end in round 3? We already have a few on the roster.
    Where’s our nose tackle? Our inside linebacker?
    Maybe we’ll get them in round 5????? Looking at what Belechick accomplished in two days versus what Pioli accomplished almost makes me which I was a Patriots fan!


  • April 24, 2010  - el cid says:

    Well, the spin has started and the draft is not over yet.

    1. Berry is a cannot miss, wonderful pick. Not my guy but have to agree.

    2. McCluster small RB, quick, and converting to a slot/WR. I like him but Pioli is addressing a not so desparate need. The next pick added to this makes you question just what went on in the planning of this draft.

    3. Arenas “tough guy who can cover all day and a returner” actually a little guy with some speed who BETTER cover all day cause there will be no pass rush from the front 7.

    5 Guard, added for depth, when Waters/Lilja are gone in a few years. Why? a pressing need over a LB or real WR?

    6 TE, another let’s give picks away TE like last year. All of sudden has speed, except when drafted all the media said he could not “stretch the field”. Oh and has been injuried EVERY year in college.

    The second day just kills me. I do not see much improvement over last year’s draft and that was supposed to be Pioli’s specialty, well not very special to me.


  • April 24, 2010  - el cid says:

    Sorry to keep pounding this but supposedly this was Pioli building a team with GOOD CHARACTER. I was hoping for a football team. Wasn’t it Lombardi who said “Nice guys finish last”? Well with this draft, I fear the Chiefs are last in the West again.


  • April 24, 2010  - Jim Lloyd + says:

    Flowers and Berry , ain’t like they don’t know each other !


  • April 24, 2010  - Tenand6 says:

    It appears the Chiefs are saying the most vulnerable part of a majority of NFL teams are Special Teams. The coaching isn’t as sharp and the players aren’t all first tier. The easiest way to make an impact is Special Teams. Get a great coach, impact returners and kickers and put good, disciplined athletes on those teams and you are more likely to win that battle. I think the 2nd round was brilliant. We should win the Special Teams matchups almost every week. This helps the offense and defense with better field position and the potential for big, demoralizing plays.

    We also have game-breakers on offense and defense. We can see what Haley is all about on offense: Aggressive. Remember, when Jones is at running back, J. Charles can be split out. The Chiefs are going to be a far different football team when it comes to big plays on offense. And, to my eyes, Brian Waters needs to be pushed. He played injured last year so he may be considerably better than he played, but watch the tape. It’s possible Waters has less in the tank than we’d all like to admit. As a person, there’s no one better. As a guard….we’ll see. GREAT third round pick.

    On defense we have to get to the QB in order to help our dangerous secondary. We are faster and we have a couple of guys now who can take it to the house on a turnover. They will need help on the pass rush and stopping the run up the middle. Can’t solve all our problems with one draft, but maybe Pioli can find help at ILB before summer camp.

    I see a Chiefs team that is evolving to be faster, smarter and more aggressive. Pioli isn’t perfect, but I like his plan. I think the Chiefs will be a handful next year and maybe one draft away from the playoffs. That being said, I think they have a good shot at 9-7.


  • April 24, 2010  - aPauled says:

    1) Good start with Berry.
    2a) McCluster is a playmaker while not what we expected, he is a weapon that will make Sunday exciting.
    2b) Arenas is basically a punt/kick return guy with the potential to be a nickel/dimer…in the second round? Even if he is the second coming of Dante Hall…round 2?
    3a) Asamoah should be a player. C JD Walton from Baylor would have been my preference considering what we have…but this should work.
    3b) Don’t get trading up and losing a pick for TE Moeaki. If we get him with our #4 and keep that #5…maybe…but we just lost another prospect.


  • April 24, 2010  - Indplschiefsfan says:

    Tenand6,

    You make some good points. Games and good teams, however, are not won/made on special teams — at least, not consistently. Yes, special teams can improve the field position battle. If you don’t have the firepower to capitalize on said opportunities, then you’ve gained nothing.

    Our D-line is still average at best, mediocre at worst. I think the O-line will now be improved over last year, and Asamoah will be a big part of it; either in pushing Waters or supplanting him.

    The more I think about it, the more I begin to believe the McCluster pick was wasted. If the Chiefs were going to go after Arenas anyway, they could have used the McCluster pick to go after either a nose tackle, or a linebacker (most likely NT, since this draft is a bit weak in LBs IMO). Then, with Arenas, you have a quality nickel CB with the added benny of a proven kick returner. My thinking continues to be build the D FIRST, we’re closer there. At this point, I don’t care about flash on offense, I’d rather see consistency.

    As to someone else commenting on the moves Belichick made dwarfing Pioli’s moves: Belichick has a much deeper goody bag and more inventory to deal than Pioli does. I don’t fault Pioli for being unable to acquire more picks; I fault him for the picks made. This draft was heavy in quality line personnel on both sides of the ball, and Pioli passed on almost all of it. Winning football teams are built on the lines, period.


  • April 24, 2010  - el cid says:

    Unlike 09, these kid look good as individuals.

    But the Chiefs do not operate in a vaccum. They play in the AFC West. Those three team are drafting for their versions of what they need. When they step on the field against the Chiefs, who has improved the most based on 09 and the 2010 draft? Not the Chiefs as compared to what they will face. So while there is really nothing wrong with the draft, this team may well be the worst in the West. Now in 2-4 years that may change but the AFC West will not be sitting on their collective rears waiting for the Chiefs to catch up.


  • April 24, 2010  - ThunderChief says:

    A lot of folks here, I noticed, were concerned with Pioli picking talent based on his profile of need vs. actual need to shore up glaring weaknesses. I was one of those folks.

    Maybe Pioli has a vision far above mere mortals, above his NFL counterparts. Surely that must be it? It’s like he’s buying a new car with leather upholstery-navigation-sunroof but electing to add automatic transmission-power streering-air conditioning at a later time.

    Every draft has winners and losers. Teams have GMs that are like draft picks. Some are excellent, others okay and still more others are busts. So far, the biggest draft day bust I’ve seen over the past two years is Pioli.


  • April 24, 2010  - Mad Chief says:

    My thoughts haven’t changed much. These guys are all good players…and should help this team.

    But our absolute biggest weakness, stopping the run, has been totally ignored. Pioli and Crennel must think the guys we already have in place can get the job done. I wish I felt the same.


  • April 24, 2010  - oldpete says:

    McCluster was drafted as a WR and returner. Think Leon Washington with more pass catching going on. This draft has been great. We badly needed playmakers, KR, PR, Safety, Nickel, Oline help, We needed a young TE that can block – I do miss Tony. We helped ourselves a great deal and it is not over. We have two more picks and FAs also. We will see one or two LBs and one NT that can be developed. I think our GM is showing just how good he is.


  • April 24, 2010  - Indplschiefsfan says:

    I’m going to keep pounding this until the cows come home…

    We don’t need “flash”, or “playmakers”, we need consistency. Consistency is built on the lines, and with the exception of Asamoah, we’ve done absolutely NOTHING in that area. Team speed is great, team character is great; W’s are what it’s all about though.

    I hope I’m wrong, but other than some chrome on the fenders, we don’t seem to have done a thing for the powerplant.


  • April 24, 2010  - Don in Wichita says:

    The 1st choice in Berry I like. The rest? Not so much. I find it hard to believe Pioli and Co are clueless but are you kidding me? Areas we have some good players are added to and holes are left not addressed? Are they expecting more available free agents to come on the market after the draft? The day after feels like the day after a game. Hope and joy turns to confusion and regret. I know. Give them some time. I like most of the free agent moves so far so let’s see how it pans out the next few months. In Pioli we trust. (kinda)


  • April 24, 2010  - tx_CHIEFan says:

    Tenand6
    Thank you, Thank you, Thank you…
    Couldn’t of said it better myself.
    These are all contributors and will make the team much stronger and faster.

    Indplschiefsfan says
    I also agree w/ you… D-line, O-line and don’t forget the pass rushing and middle LB’s are needed to shore up winning teams. I read something interesting on AP last night. After all of these draft picks are signed, other teams will have to release players that may fit what our coaches are looking for right now.

    I am not a homer…and I hated the picks initially, but I will have faith and look forward to watching an electric KC Chiefs team this year.


  • April 24, 2010  - el cid says:

    tx, good points but why do the Chiefs always sell “just wait until other teams release players” for the Chiefs to have enough players? Just wondering, couldn’t we draft a few ourselves?

    I do not hate the picks, it is just are the Chiefs moving up on the other AFC West teams or, as I suggested, the Chiefs are weakened their position against their competition in 2010.


  • April 24, 2010  - el cid says:

    PS Denver cut their starting Center and drafted one out of college, will it work, don’t know or care. The Chiefs need help at LB, did they address this in free agency, no, or the draft, NO. How will that get better? OMG watch the teams run all over the Chiefs defense, I guess Berry can chase down all those RBs.


  • April 24, 2010  - Alex(The Great) says:

    Great job Pioli more Playmakers baby!!!!! The way we picked on day 2 speaks volumes about how Pioli feels about our defense….2 me it says our defense played poorly due 2 lack of coaching not players….I’m looking forward 2 seeing the different schemes Crennel comes up with! We should move Jackson inside b/c he sucks at shedding blocks…so allow him 2 just be a space eater and let Magee start.


  • April 24, 2010  - oldpete says:

    We picked up solid zone block center and guard in free agency. We picked up a NT who had a productive year playing for our d coordinator. I think we will pick up front 7 help still.

    Indplschiefsfan – I could not disagree more that we needed playmakers on both sides of the ball with our team. Our secondary esp safety and nickel was a weak spot. DBs had real trouble tackling. Our picks have the ability to turn that around.

    On offense, we had mediocre YAC. JamCharles, and to a lesser extent Chris Chambers saved us. DexMac is instant upgrade.


  • April 24, 2010  - jimbo says:

    The bandwagon came through KC last night. Some jumped on… some jumped off. I was dumbfounded & bewildered of our 2nd round picks. I’m still trying to digest the quirkiness of Pioli’s choices. Maybe I’m a kool aid drinker & just need a little more ice. We lacked playmakers last year. Thats not gonna happen this year. We need a run stopping NT & ILB or maybe we needed a Good defensive coach who can improve our existing players. Last year our Defense was very complicated & I think Pendergast was making players think too much & not letting them react. To me, defensive players should be able to react much quicker as opposed to think what the coach wants them to do before reacting.
    I dunno, there will be alot of players released in the coming months, hopefully we can pick up better players that can contribute more than the ones they are replacing.
    Pioli may be unpredictable at this point, some are thinking he’s an idiot. (temporarily) but you gotta Love what he is building here in KC. The Chiefs are going to be alot more exciting to watch this year & I for one… will be absorbing every play as we get closer to being AFC West Champions this year.
    Go Chiefs.


  • April 24, 2010  - Niblick says:

    The Chiefs must have thought that Kindle and Cody had downsides or didn’t fit for some reason. I’m just throwing out two names that many of us wanted them to draft in the 2nd round. I’m okay with McCluster but most draft boards had him rated late 2nd or early 3rd. They must really feel he can be the slot receiver they need IE-Wes Welker. They also apparently are not as high on Leggett as their nickel back as the previous staff. Arenas must fit that role and is also one of the top returners. Perhaps he was also taken too high. They must have really wanted these two players.


  • April 24, 2010  - el cid says:

    Chiefs picked another safety in 5th round. At least they are sticking to their guns. This draft is all about improving team speed and DBs. I guess that is ok. Reading into it, Pendergast and Krumrie must have been the worst coaches in the history of the NFL, no addition thru the draft, one free agent, and new coaches will fix it. Maybe next year we can fix the rest. We have no LB to speak of, this year will thin out the DL, QB may be answered, and whatever Haley will do with WRs. Just wait for 2011.


  • April 24, 2010  - Niblick says:

    I wonder if this pick of another safety means we will release Paige. He is the only Chief who has not signed his tender. I don’t think anyone would give us anything for him anyway. He is coming off a serious injury. They must feel we need two new safetys. I wouldn’t be surprised if we trade a future draft pick to get back into the 7th round. Pioli did that last year.


  • April 24, 2010  - JohnFromFairfax says:

    i guess there’s no point in participating in the league this year from the sound of some folks. Or maybe we should wait until the end of the draft and beginning of the season before writing it off. Every pick addressed needs and brought productive, high quality leaders and players. I would recommend we pay attention to what the coach and GM have been saying. Incidentally, many other so called “experts” don’t have the same opinion that some here have already expressed. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see what happens when we actually put a team together and on the field. I look forward to it myself. Go Chiefs!


  • April 24, 2010  - Bakjon says:

    To those who don’t think we needed to extra speed on both offense and defense just look at the Philadelphia and Dallas games from last year. In the Philly game the Chiefs had just scored to make it 14-7 getting everyone’s hopes up then BANG Jackson catches a slant pass over the middle and in a matter of seconds it’s now 21-7 and game over because the Chiefs weren’t going to make it a game. In the Dallas game Austin breaks two tackles and once again it’s game over. Still thinking about the speed just imagine if Haley had used Charles at that time. Maybe the Chiefs could have won the game in OT.

    Like a few bloggers I’m disappointed that the Chiefs didn’t pick up a NT or ILB or possibly a WR in the second round but let Pioli, Haley, Weis, and Crennel do their jobs. It’s easy to get hung up on the names because everyone raved about the Chiefs’ draft two years ago but no one knows until the ball is snapped. Injuries, wrong system, spped of the game, and loss of hunger after getting the money have made a few draft decisions look bad. Also, one other important thing: coaching. These players have to be trained properly otherwise the draft and money spent is a waste. Prendergast had too many schemes and Haley put in a new system on the fly. Lets hope with the new coaches that we have that they are better teachers than what he had last year.


  • April 24, 2010  - Danny W says:

    I think some of you some guys are giving Pioli too much credit. You guys who wanted explosiveness in the offense it should have been Gilyard picked up in the bottom of the third round when Pioli was swinging deals.

    We missed on some upgrades in the second round. We could have gotten a legit nose tackle to eat up blocks with not one but both of those picks.

    MIKE VRABEL HAD TWO SACKS LAST YEAR. He may have some leadership skills but he is not the answer on that side of the ball. To be frank he sucks period.

    Who besides Tambi Hali is going to sack the quarter back. Glenn Dorsey, no he is going to be double teamed along with T.J. Why because you only have to put your center on Ron Edwards.

    First rounder Berry gets an A grade.

    Second round A McCluster gets a D grade. Should have picked LB or OLB Daryl Washington or Sergio Kindle to replace Mike Vrabel.

    Second round B Arenas gets a C grade. This pick is the one that gets me the most. I love this guy and hoped we drafted him but not over and improved run defense. Terrance Cody is the no brainer here for the Chiefs and they WHIFFED.

    Third round pick A Jon Osomuagh gets an A grade. The line needs help, you can bank on someone getting hurt this year he will step in and take there job right away.

    Third round pick B Moeiki or what ever his name is that is a bunk pick. Constantly hurt. I would be willing to bet anything on it this guy may not make the 53 man roster.F grade written all over it. Gilyard will be just like Desean Jackson and we missed him. Aaron Hernandez would have been better and we wouldn’t had to trade to get him.

    In the fifth we didn’t get another Nose Tackle that would have probably been our last chance at upgrade and that was Cam Thomas. He will be stuffing the run for San Diego and will probably start day one.

    Unless we sack the quarter back at least ten more times and stop the run even a little bit better I have to say the Chiefs get a D grade at best.


  • April 24, 2010  - tx_CHIEFan says:

    Danny W
    Just when did you become an expert at evaluating talent? I suppose you’ve met these kids? Watched countless hrs of their game tape? Worked them out personally?
    Oh thats why your grades must me right…and Pioli gets too much credit.

    We got speed, we got gamechangers, we got…the “right” players for our system and our coaches. Just wait and see…I bet we hit on more draftees this year than any of the past 10.


  • April 24, 2010  - Indplschiefsfan says:

    oldpete says: “Indplschiefsfan – I could not disagree more that we needed playmakers on both sides of the ball with our team. Our secondary esp safety and nickel was a weak spot. DBs had real trouble tackling. Our picks have the ability to turn that around.”

    To which I respond: oldpete, all the playmakers in the world ain’t gonna help ya when the other team grinds it out on you and eats up clock time. They did it last year, and unless Pioli has some magic up his sleeve, we haven’t done one thing to address our run defense problem. I like Crennel as DC; he’s one of the best in the NFL. Having said that, he’s no magician. Nobody is going to get me to believe we’ve had the D-line and LB talent all this time and idiots who didn’t know how to coach. I ain’t buyin’ it. WE NEED A PLAYMAKER NT OR LB, not some stupid flash on offense that puts an already tired D back on the field. We been there, done that.

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results. From this side of the front office, it’s watching a new management team do the same old thing, and think it’s magic because the managers are new.


  • April 24, 2010  - Indplschiefsfan says:

    Oldpete,

    One more thing… our DB’s had trouble tackling cuz they were worn out by mid-3rd qtr after chasing RB’s who got past our front 7.

    One more time for those in the cheap seats… Build your lines FIRST, that’s where it all starts. Only one pick addressed that issue.

    Gawd… I hope Pioli/Haley are smarter than me…


  • April 24, 2010  - SG says:

    “WTF???”

    That’s the general consensus.


  • April 24, 2010  - oldpete says:

    Indplschiefsfan –

    We have added speed and tackling ability in positions where it did not exist to any great degree in the last few years.

    We have added speed, improved blocking and improved catching ability to our offense.

    We have added potential kick off and punt return ability that we have not seen in years.

    I don’t see how the insanity comment fits. No need to try to explain – we’ll just agree to disagree about what the team is trying to do and how they are going about it.


  • April 25, 2010  - SG says:

    “Second round B Arenas gets a C grade. This pick is the one that gets me the most. I love this guy and hoped we drafted him but not over and improved run defense. Terrance Cody is the no brainer here for the Chiefs and they WHIFFED.”

    Whoa Danny, you seem very generous there. We traded Gonzalez to get this pick – so how does that scoring fit in?


  • April 25, 2010  - SG says:

    “Just when did you become an expert at evaluating talent?”

    Assuming you’ve seen the 2009 edition of our Chiefs and the great number of D-line upgrades we’ve had, he probably gained this knowledge as he watched numerous games of seeing our Chiefs’ defense getting RUN OVER LIKE A BLINKIN’ BULLDOZER. 270+ yards from Jerome Harrison should ring a bell.

    Aside from the whole issue of the weaknesses at MLB and Nose Guard, a whole issue all of us have IGNORED – we have NO DEPTH on our defensive line AT ALL! When Glenn Dorsey got hurt, what on planet earth happened to our D? How has this been addressed?




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