OTA Update 6/15

From the Truman Sports Complex

Well, the Chiefs didn’t have as much fun Monday morning in their OTA session as they did last Friday.

That’s when they went through a walk-through session and then head coach Todd Haley took the team bowling.

Yes, the hard-edged head coach gave his team a little sugar.

“Because we have worked very hard as a group, we went and had a little team building work at the bowling alley, which was well attended and went over well,” Haley said.

“Today, we had another two-minute session which was good. We had a couple red (zone) area works which I thought was good.”

The Chiefs began their last week of OTAs working indoors because of morning showers at the Sports Complex. There were 82 bodies in the house, including fourth-round draft choice CB Donald Washington, who was making his first on-field appearance since the team’s rookie-mini-camp in early May.

Missing were DE Alfonso Boone and the usual suspects, LB Brian Waters and OLB Mike Vrabel.

DT Ron Edwards returned to practice, leaving just QB Brodie Croyle and RB Kolby Smith in the rehab work.

Some observations from the workout:

– Edwards and RCB Brandon Carr were back running with the No. 1 defense.

– QB Matt Cassel ran the two-minute drill with the No. 1 offense.  The situation was 1st-and-10 at their 45-yard line, with 50 seconds to play, one timeout and they needed a touchdown to win.  Cassel hit his first two throws, going to WRs Devard Darling and Dwayne Bowe, picking up about 30 yards.  But the next three throws included a downed pass to stop the clock and two incompletions.  Finally on fourth down with five seconds to play, Cassel’s pass into the end zone was picked off by S Bernard Pollard.

– In the team work portion of practice, Cassel and Tyler Thigpen were a combined four of nine throwing the ball, and they were one of four in the red zone with no scores.

– So in the key team portions of practice, the quarterbacks were six of 15, with no scores, one interception.  Five of those incompletions were throw aways or downing the ball to stop the clock.

– Good pass defense was turned in on several  plays by CB Brandon Flowers, rookie OLB Pierre Walters and S DaJuan Morgan, who knocked a completion out of the hands of TE Jake O’Connell.  CB Maurice Leggett had his hands on two different passes, but couldn’t grab the interceptions. DE Wallace Gilberry showed a pass rush in team work, flushing Thigpen out of the pocket.

– Life on the corner, just ask Travis Daniels.  On one play he did a nice job of breaking up a pass in the end zone for WR Mark Bradley.  On the very next play, he shaded too far inside and let WR Jeff Webb get away from him for a catch in the end zone.

– On the offensive side, TE Sean Ryan had a great catch in the corner of the end zone in the seven-on-seven portion of practice. Also in the seven-on-seven, Bowe had a nice one-handed catch on the right side. Webb and WR Bobby Engram dropped passes they should have caught.


54 Responses to “OTA Update 6/15”

  • June 15, 2009  - gorillafan says:

    OH LOOK, a Chiefs update…..thats a shocker!!

    Again I say, give the dude a break.

    Thanks for the update BOB!!


  • June 15, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    And Tyler Thigpen once again outshines Matt Cassel in a battle of slim & none… Brodie Croyle there is hope for you yet!

    :-)


  • June 15, 2009  - alex k says:

    great update, that D sounds tough vs the pass and is really messing with the offense day in and day out according to their numbers. Cant wait for pads


  • June 15, 2009  - Scott says:

    gorillafan,

    We were just bustin’ Bob’s chops, as I said before. We all appreciate his work…or we wouldn’t be here.

    JJosefsen,

    My take is…the Defense is improved, and that’s part of it. The Offense is going to take more time to “gel”. OTA’s…7 on 7 drills…no pads, no hitting…still WAY too early to draw much of a conclusion, really. We’ll get a better idea of what we have in August.


  • June 15, 2009  - Scott says:

    JW says:
    “And Tyler Thigpen once again outshines Matt Cassel in a battle of slim & none…”

    I missed that part of the article. Could you point that out for me? Thanks!


  • June 15, 2009  - True Red & Gold says:

    Rin sucks.


  • June 15, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    How did ‘search’ & ‘check’ miss out on signing Greg Ellis? He would have been another perfect component piece for the Chiefs new 30 something relic defense.

    :-)


  • June 15, 2009  - derrick says:

    Rin please take the negativity somewhere else.
    This place is for the real chief fans. Not the all day crybabies.


  • June 15, 2009  - SG says:

    Again I say, give the dude a break.”

    Who are we referring to — Bob (the great writer of this blog) or Cassel (who threw another pick…lol)? Naturally gotta give both a hard time since we’re rooting for both of them to succeed.

    LOL also at the “JW” reference…


  • June 15, 2009  - Scott says:

    So…

    Besides Vrabel and Thomas…who are the other memebers of the “Chiefs new 30 something relic defense” that Pioli and Haley have signed?


  • June 15, 2009  - Rip 'em a new one says:

    Adding to the chorus of appreciation for your diligence, Bob. Thank you for this.


  • June 15, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Scott said:

    “JW says – And Tyler Thigpen once again outshines Matt Cassel in a battle of slim & none.”

    I missed that part of the article. Could you point that out for me? Thanks!”

    - JW’s probably busy Mr. Magoo/Scottie…allow Rin, seeing as He wrote it .

    One int was thrown – by Cassel – leading the #1 offense Cassel FAILED to score in the 2-minute: “two incompletions. Finally on fourth down with five seconds to play Cassel’s pass into the end zone was picked off by Bernard Pollard.”

    How’s that Scottie? Doesn’t he stink wonderfully?
    How do you spell failure? Here in Missouri/Kansas we spell it: C-A-S-S-E-L.

    From whom much is given – $14+ mil – much is expected- as in much more than that pathetic showing.

    “Cassel and Tyler Thigpen were a combined four of nine throwing the ball, and they were one of four in the red zone with no scores.”

    - as Mutt was working with the #1 offense has all the PR hype & undying devotion a gullible fandom – hi again Scottie – no success there either.

    Reading between the lines we do not get the individual stats for each this team portion?

    Why not? Hmm.

    Not important or is there a desire ‘not’ indicate precisely how badly the one QB is doing compared the other? Bob G has said it is only OTA’s…Rin says that what’s left unsaid may be o more import – you believe as you wish.

    “the quarterbacks were six of 15, with no scores, one interception” – the INT by Cassel as stated.

    I wonder if Cassel’s contract includes a buyers remorse policy? 90 day warranty is ticking away, defects in craftsmanship, etc. etc!

    :-)


  • June 15, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    And now a salve nee some balm for the hot and bothered (probably buttered too) duo too- True Red & Gold and derrick:

    “Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya
    Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya
    Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya
    Oh lord, kumbaya

    Someones singing lord, kumbaya
    Someones singing lord, kumbaya
    Someones singing lord, kumbaya
    Oh lord, kumbayah

    Someones laughing, lord, kumbaya
    Someones laughing, lord, kumbaya
    Someones laughing, lord, kumbaya
    Oh lord, kumbaya

    Someones crying, lord, kumbaya
    Someones crying, lord, kumbaya
    Someones crying, lord, kumbaya
    Oh lord, kumbaya

    Someones praying, lord, kumbaya
    Someones praying, lord, kumbaya
    Someones praying, lord, kumbaya
    Oh lord, kumbaya

    Someones sleeping, lord, kumbaya
    Someones sleeping, lord, kumbaya
    Someones sleeping, lord, kumbaya
    Oh lord, kumbaya
    Oh lord, kumbaya

    :-)


  • June 15, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Scottie

    Again you are Magoo…I made no mention of just the signees to date as the ‘final’ 30 something defense contingent – we’ve months to go & other teams garbage to pick, pilfer & sift thru afore all the pieces this budding disaster be in place.

    Nor did Rin make reference to either Mssrs Thomas or Vrabel specifically – no reason that any other 30 something teammate (McGraw, Boone) already on board defense does not/could not qualify.

    Well, that’s two swings & a miss by you Scottie this one & the ‘JW’ reference.) You maybe wanna go for the trifecta?

    heh heh heh

    :-)


  • June 15, 2009  - Scott says:

    JW,

    My apology if you got a point in there somewhere. I got bored about a third of the way through your masterpiece of a comeback to a simple question. You have to keep it short and sweet for simple folk like me.


  • June 15, 2009  - SG says:

    Rin,

    The zing’s in the first of the two was better. When are you having us (including him-dim-dim, derrick, true-red-and-gold) all over for bbq (at JW’s expense)? I’ve re-assessed (for the moment) – we need you as the in-house Anti-Raider versus trading you to OAK for a package of clean diapers for LJ. If you have any entertaining speculation on who “anonymous” was that alleged that we have the same viewpoint (or are the same person) – feel free to chime in.

    “DE Wallace Gilberry showed a pass rush in team work…”

    Who was his victim in the matchup?


  • June 15, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    And when you have them, you know you really have them- say Uncle whenever you catch your breath, Scottie…

    :-)


  • June 15, 2009  - arrowhead1978 says:

    Wow, Cassel threw another interception without pads on, you know… it does get harder to throw the ball with the pads on. I would hope that during the season the Valiant QB will protect the ball more than he is showing so far. Haley’s offense won’t work throwing int’s…

    Does someone have a count on how many picks each QB has thrown thus far?


  • June 15, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    SG says

    “Rin”

    - yes, what is it now?

    “The zing’s in the first of the two was better.”

    - it’s a buffet…eat as much or little as you like…

    “When are you having us (including him-dim-dim, derrick, true-red-and-gold) all over for bbq (at JW’s expense)?”

    - (cue Johnny Mathis) “until the twelfth of never, and that’s a long long time…”

    Rin works alone & sans a net, but you as everyone feel free to cherish me from a distance…

    “I’ve re-assessed (for the moment)”

    - so, as be the case double-chins you be packing on the pounds ‘aft’ now too…going back seconds Rin is preferable…lean & mean!

    “we need you as the in-house Anti-Raider versus trading you to OAK for a package of clean diapers for LJ.”

    - you’ve made several mentions diapers & LJ; were this in fact game “pin the tail on the”, you’d be in grave danger being mistaken for Weepy Dick…

    “If you have any entertaining speculation on who “anonymous” was that alleged that we have the same viewpoint (or are the same person) – feel free to chime in.”

    - don’t know, don’t care…Rin only cares about Rin & his opines: beyond Bob G’s occasionals, a man could go hungry here if not for Rin’s daily manna…

    :-)


  • June 15, 2009  - BinSC says:

    As usual, this means little to nothing as we have no idea what context the 2 minute drill was conducted. Were they told to concentrate on WR’s only? Was the pressure heavy? Should some of them have been caught? Etc, Etc.

    Practice is practice. Many times the focus is on the process and not the result. That comes later. Hardly a time to say anyone is a bust or a savior. Being in shape, on time, and knowing your playbook is what is required for training camp. Give me a report in August when discussing results.


  • June 15, 2009  - gorillafan says:

    SB,

    I was refering to Bob. But I agree with your reply


  • June 15, 2009  - colby says:

    Any fan with a shred of intelligence should know that what happens in OTAs isn’t any indication of what’s ahead this season. Anyone who puts down a player for a bad throw or a dropped pass or a bad route at THIS point in the year is a fool. Plain and simple.

    We still have a month and a half before the preseason starts. So much can and will change before then. The intelligent fans know this anyway.

    Thanks Bob for the faithful and detailed updates! I’ve been wanting a source like this for years! Keep up the great work!


  • June 15, 2009  - SuperbowlIVVictors says:

    Rin,

    I detest you. Please kill yourself. I know you try to pass yourself off as intelligent and erudite, but your grasp of vocabulary is questionable (given your mis-use of many words), your sentence structure is woeful and doesn’t flow at all. In short, even someone attempting to read any of your drivel would find themselves much happier listening to someone drag his fingernails on a chalkboard.

    Again, please kill yourself.


  • June 15, 2009  - Scott says:

    JW says:

    “And when you have them, you know you really have them- say Uncle whenever you catch your breath, Scottie…”

    Ha! Not on your life, Jack.

    Whoa…4 guys (you mentioned) over the age of 30 on our D. Yeah…that makes us a “relic defense” alright. Good point.

    And I quite like the JW thing. I think it’s a keeper.


  • June 15, 2009  - ED says:

    Still look like Cassell not really separating himself from Thigpen


  • June 15, 2009  - Michael says:

    I think at this point in the process, the quarterbacks just have to go for it and keep the passes coming. They have to develop timing and chemistry with all the different recievers. Incompletions and interceptions are much better now, rather than later. Of course, the offense has a long way to go, but they do have time.


  • June 15, 2009  - Scott says:

    ED says:

    “Still look like Cassell not really separating himself from Thigpen”

    Maybe not. But, here’s what Thigpen had to say at the end of last week:

    “Right now it’s not a competition,” Thigpen said. “We’re just trying to get better as a team and make the offense better.”

    Thigpen also said he’s enjoying playing with Cassell, and has enjoyed getting to know him.

    “He’s a phenomenal guy,” said Thigpen. “Couldn’t ask for a better guy to be competing against. I’m really excited, looking forward to working with him this year.”

    We won’t know for sure until training camp. Then the pads go on…the hitting starts…guys are fighting for starting positions…fighting for spots on the roster. Only then will we know who’s who and what’s what.


  • June 15, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    SuperbowlIVVictors says

    “Rin”

    - yes, what is it now?

    “I detest you.”

    - the brilliant greenish hue your yeux wouldst light the depths of Lake Vostok…

    “Please kill yourself.”

    - Rin loves it when they beg; anything for a friend, bête noire…

    “I know you”

    - oh, another regular subscriber…

    “try to pass yourself off as intelligent and erudite”

    - would you like Rin to humiliate you in several different languages within the same paragraph? I can you know; get back to me…

    “but your grasp of vocabulary is questionable (given your mis-use of many words), your sentence structure is woeful and doesn’t flow at all.”

    - as the understanding poetic license eludes you, I must decline your generous offer instruction & managerial service – suggest you set your sights on a less grand scale than the Providence Rin… considered Dostoyevsky?

    “In short, even someone attempting to read any of your drivel would find themselves much happier listening to someone drag his fingernails on a chalkboard.”

    - your pronouncements do evidence a beautiful manicure…

    “Again, please kill yourself.”

    - genuflected patella eschar yours must sting – arise … your pleas as your evidenced aptitude will be considered & disposed of in kind.

    :-)


  • June 15, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    ED says:

    “Still look like Cassell not really separating himself from Thigpen.”

    - ED, your vision is just fine: 20/15; one would have to be Stevie Wonder to not recognize Cassel has been – double entendre – a disappointment to date…

    :-)


  • June 15, 2009  - Scott says:

    Rin Tin Tin says:

    “one would have to be Stevie Wonder to not recognize Cassel has been – double entendre – a disappointment to date…”

    Yup…he’s a bust alright. Hasn’t even won one game as a Chief yet.

    Are some of you guys even going to give the man a chance? He hasn’t even put pads on under his Chiefs uniform…for gawd’s sake.

    OTA’s don’t mean “jack”…OTA’s don’t mean “jack”. Say it with me now…OTA’s don’t mean “jack”.

    Rin, if Cassel kicks ass…are you prepared to say you were wrong about him? If the Chiefs win 10 games this year…are you prepared to admit you were wrong about Pioli and Haley?

    I didn’t think so. After all…it takes a MAN to admit when he’s wrong.


  • June 15, 2009  - Kevin B says:

    Rin, I am confused. Are you telling us that you are a woman, or was that not you posting?


  • June 15, 2009  - Jack Danials says:

    I see 30 pound’s of ink and no one’s said a word—ladies -ladies –ladies ————–


  • June 15, 2009  - arrowhead1978 says:

    “Right now it’s not a competition,” Thigpen said. “We’re just trying to get better as a team and make the offense better.”

    “He’s a phenomenal guy,” said Thigpen. “Couldn’t ask for a better guy to be competing against. I’m really excited, looking forward to working with him this year.”

    Did he just say competiition??

    Tell me what you heard from other QB’s in the league, who’s looking rusty??


  • June 16, 2009  - True Red & Gold says:

    Rin says:

    “…” …Nothing, ad nauseum, per the usual.


  • June 16, 2009  - SG says:

    DE Alfonso Boone

    Any word on why he was out for this OTA?


  • June 16, 2009  - leo says:

    Rin, I am surprised that they allow you this much time at the state hospital to use their computer. Do all the dillusional patients have the same access as you?


  • June 16, 2009  - azchieffn says:

    Rin, how long are you planning on sponging off your mother?..It’s about time to leave the “nest” eh?


  • June 16, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    (Cue Crispian St. Peters)

    “Hey come on, babe
    Follow me
    I’m the Pied Piper
    Follow me
    I’m the Pied Piper
    And I’ll show you where it’s at
    Come on, babe
    Can’t you see
    I’m the Pied Piper
    Trust in me
    I’m the Pied Piper
    And I’ll show you where it’s at”

    Rin casts His mighty narrative hand & they follow – all of them – all the time! Next, I shall make them roll over and mess themselves…again.

    heh heh heh

    :-)


  • June 16, 2009  - SG says:

    “Rin casts his mighty narrative hand & they follow – all of them …”

    Since you set this one up in a past blog Rin…I’m not sure who the “they” is you’re referring to…but one thing comes to mind…

    <<<>>

    One additional thing to mention was a comment made in a blog hosted by a certain fishwrap we know: “QB Matt Cassel. The new Chiefs quarterback is accurate…”

    I’m not sure how many INT’s have been thrown over the past three weeks, but this word choice as penned by someone who didn’t have the initials “J.W.” seems very humorous under the circumstances. Are all our WR’s dropping all of these, or all of them running to the wrong places, or is Maurice Leggett now trying to compete for a WR position?


  • June 16, 2009  - SG says:

    <<<>>>>

    was what was supposed to be inserted in there – not sure why the blog left it out.


  • June 16, 2009  - SG says:

    THREE BLIND MICE THEME SONG


  • June 16, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    I just wanted to make sure everyone noted my post on a previous blog that I am, in fact, a dendraphiliac. Yes, I find myself attracted, in “that” way to trees. In fact, there is nothing than caressing the rugged bark of an oak, or feeling the smooth cambium of a magnolia tree.

    Sigh. Excuse me, I need to check on something in the back yard.


  • June 16, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    (Cue Elton John paraphrase ^ another fake Rin blog, above) – “Green eyes, fake Rin’s got green eyes…

    Imitation ‘is’ the sincerest form of flattery!

    heh heh heh

    :-)


  • June 17, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Alas, and flattery leads to r(u)in.


  • June 17, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    ((Cue yet another Elton John paraphrase fake ^ Rin blog, above))

    “Green eyes, fake Rin’s got….green eyes.”

    heh heh heh

    :-)


  • June 17, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    OMG! I just found a rare Chinese Elm!!!


  • June 17, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    ((Cue yet another Elton John paraphrase fake ^ Rin blog, above))

    “Green eyes, fake Rin’s got….green eyes.”

    heh heh heh

    :-)


  • June 17, 2009  - Herm Edwards says:

    “Chinese Elm, I’ve got…a Chinese Elm.”


  • June 18, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    ‘check’ – “Any 22 will do.” as in 0-16 in 2009!

    heh heh heh

    :-)


  • June 18, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    I…er…meant “Any tree will (I) do.”


  • June 18, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Rin Tin Tin says:

    ((Cue yet another Elton John paraphrase fake ^ Rin blog, above))

    “Green eyes, fake Rin ‘Josh’ gots…green eyes.”

    heh heh heh

    :-)


  • June 19, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    I LOVE TREES!


  • June 19, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    (Cue yet another Elton John paraphrase fake ^ Rin blog, above))

    “Green eyes, fake Rin “˜Josh’ gots…green eyes.”

    heh heh heh

    :-)




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