Why Thigpen Is Starting

“Those are not things that Huard can do very well. Thigpen has a better chance to make them work.”

Although Huard had the longest run last game of 15 yards.

But the pass rush thing makes sense. Thigpen is much more mobile, but can he make a throw under pressure like experienced QB’s can?

I am interested to see Ingle Martin honestly, but Tyler Thigpen just didnt look prepared with his recevers…no timing, I hope that was fixed this week…Also am hoping will franklin plays, he was a factor when he played in the preseason….and some more Cottam maybe, a little more 2 TE sets, Id also like to see Turk healthy, and possibly pollard/morgan instead of page/morgan due to page’s tackling issues.

Doesn’t really matter who plays QB if D. McIntosh is playing. I agree with one of the earlier posts about more two tight end sets. Did we get Cottam for nothing?

We seem to think a mere spread formation on the early downs will cause our opponents to think “pass”. IT AIN”T HAPPINING! Guess we MIGHT see a “surprise” play action to LJ on the first play. Boy that would be spicin’ it up! Better idea…what about a quick slant?

Let’s be honest, if they move Abraham over to the left side and have him rush against RT Damion McIntosh, then whoever is playing quarterback for the Chiefs is in trouble. Better to have somebody with some mobility, who can get away from that kind of pressure. Huard can’t do that. Thigpen can.
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That raises the point of why exactly is Damion McIntosh playing? We know Barry Richardson isn’t ready, but neither is Tyler. Play him anyway. McIntosh is a sieve, and he’s old. At least if Richradson is a sieve, he’ll learn something. And he can run block some now, something McIntosh can’t do either. Or play Herb Taylor there, but why McIntosh is still playing is now the new mystery.

Would agree with the comments about McIntosh. Why not try Herb Taylor who played well at LT during preseason or Richardson at RT? Also you could use 2 TE sets with Tony and Cottam to help the run game and put another tall target to pass to in the pattern with Cottam.

Tim, you stop all that thinking and creativity!..:)

Alex Korson, as far as timing between TT and the receivers, “fixed” in a weak?..not going to happen, however hopefully better.

I totally agree with Mark, put B-Rich in, how much worse could it be?

Call me crazy, and most of you will, but Im expecting close to 300 yds passing from Tyler Thigpen. Kind of reminds me of Bret Favre ( or maybe its just the number 4…?)

Good question on McIntosh. Seems to go against everything I read about getting younger. If he were a Brian Waters it would be different. Old AND bad…got to go.

As bad as it is (and it is bad), the one name you don’t hear anyone mention is Brandon Albert. After 2 games he has apparently been everything they hoped for. He seems to hold his own most every play. This appears to be a “hit” in the draft (so far). One bright spot…many more to go.

I don’t think Thigpen will show much composure this week. Don’t forget that he came from Coastal Carolina and has been making a huge transition. He runs around like he is terrified most of the time and can’t find anyone but 88. It will take many, many reps in live competition for him to adjust to the NFL. Same with Martin. He came from a small school as well (Furman). Interesting for me that we have players from Furman (Martin), Coastal Carolina (Thigpen) and Charleston Southern (Price) on the team. All small colleges within an hour and a half from us here in Charleston, SC. Have seen them all play and would say that we are missing the boat by having Price on the practice squad. The kid can flat out play anywhere. Not sure if he is still hurt, but he could certainly step in for Darling who is MIA.

Great, honest article Bob. Let’s see what happens.

And who said you can’t relive history, Chiefs/circa 1976-1989? I thought this season would be ugly but if ugliness were water, CP and his minions better hire that Noah guy to start construction.

Gretz,

Im convinced that herman is purposely trying to lose games…..it doesnt seem like herm but playing thigpen(he threw into quadruple coverage numerous times)was an embarassment. The preseason is for talent evaluation…not week 2.

Im from Bethlehem PA and have been a chiefs fan forever, why? Dont really know….something fascinated me about the chiefs and the Okoye days.

To the point though. I believe Herm is so in love with the idea of rebuilding that he will not put his best players out there to compete. He appeared to not care on the sidelines at all. The offense was absolutely putrid. Chan Gailey didnt do a very good job at georgia Tech, and this is the big leagues, if anyone is to be fired this offseason it should be him.The offense was predictable and certainly out-dated. The only thing I like about Herm is his drafting ability. I truly believe the chiefs struck gold with their picks this year and last. Cowher for 2010! Herm can stick around as a scout.

Article makes great since. I’ve been saying on all the Chiefs blogs that this kid needs a chance to show what he can do. He needs to start this game and the next if he plays well. If the team manages to win the next to games I would let him continue to play out the season and just sit Croyle for the rest of the year. I mean if this kid gets some momemtum going with this team why not ride it the rest of the season. I’m not saying he will, but if he is playing well and the team starts to pick up some quality wins keep him in there and just make Croyle a backup. But we do need to find out whether Croyle or this guy is a franchise quarterback and the only way you can do that you have to let them play. And since Croyle can’t stay healthy its this kid time to shine.

Bob, excellent analysis. I fully agree and thought the same thing when the news was announced today.

Kietzman was asking on 810am radio today if anyone thought Thigpen was a better option to win Sunday than Huard. I wish I could have called in and told him I was one! I saw a defensive gameplan from the Raiders last week that was all about attacking the pocket.. that was designed with Huard in mind. In a fill in pinch.. Huard can be effective. When he’s the starter and game-planned for.. he is a major weakspot. If we had a line that could protect.. that opinion would change somewhat.. unfortunately for him.. that is not the case. Beyond that, he severly limits Chan’s playbook (rollouts and such).

I am on board with Thigpen starting this week. He better be well prepared by the coaches. The panic throws into coverage can’t be so prevalent!

One more thing regarding Kietzman today and our other QB, Brodie Croyle. He wrongly compared him with Ben Rothlisberger whom is also suffering a shoulder injury. Brodie’s is his THROWING ARM.. Big Ben’s is his NON-throwing arm. He claimed that was the bottom line statement as to what kind of player Croyle is. Not one person called him out on it. Shameful. Can’t wait for Petro to discuss that fact tomorrow!

Hurry back Croyle.

I think most of us are on , basically, the same page. I agree Taylor or Richardson might as well get some playing time as long as Thigpen’s going to be running around all day anyway. If the future is now…so be it.
Bob, my question is do you think Chan and Herm will finally open up the playbook a little? As long as Thigpen’s strength is his mobility, doesn’t it make since to use it to any advantage they can?

I posted most of this on Bob’s first article on Thigpen starting…..

Alphaman, I don’t think that any thing this season is safe to assume.

Findthedr, notice how we don’t sign anyone that’s been in the league for 8 yrs or more?

NOONE will convince me that there is not at least one veteran lineman out there that could help this team. But that would require paying a Vet. guy.
How can you make any sort of evaluation on a QB, that is running for his life every time he drops back to pass? And then expect the QB’s you have to stay healthy too!!
A little disingenuous if you ask me.

BUT I LOVE THE CHIEFS!!

I think this is a serious question that needs to be discussed and answered by guys way above my pay grade.

Again I repeat there are lineman OUT on the free agent market right now that could help improve our O-Line, But Junior Hunt and the rest of the powers that be, don’t want to sign any veteran guys
( 8 yrs or more) Tar and feather my A$$ and sentence me to a lifetime in hell (dallas is about as close as one could get) but it’s the truth.
Spend as little as you can and still convince fans that we have put the best possible talent on the field.
And what happens when we don’t have a QB to evaluate anymore?

This whole thing is a farce. This is not an NFL try out camp. If it is then let me pay try out prices for my tickets instead of charging me full price.

It is not a matter of us having the stomach for rebuilding (see Gretz’s article on KCCHIEFS.COM). It is about an organization out of touch with its fans and a head coach that exudes no hope or optimism for the future.

Thigpen should have had FIVE, that is right FIVE more interceptions than he had on Sunday. I counted them.

He is AWFUL.

Larry does not run hard, the D-Line is supposedly talented but plays horrible (D-Line coach = awful), Gunther has not shown success since the grab and hold was no longer allowed and Carl and Clark are suspiciously quiet after the worst football I have seen the Chiefs play in 24 years.

Herm tells us they need to fix it to score more points…. they have lost 11 in a row. They run on first down constantly and they play a 5 9 WR at QB in the first series.

Just as disappointing as the leadership of the team is the media. Going young does not mean a train wreck. See Pittsburgh since Cowher took over and beyond and see Green Bay in 2007. How does Green Bay go 13-3 with the youngest team last year and we will be lucky to be 3-13 since we are young.

Why does Herm play the cover 2 to teams march methodically down the field thus being prown to errors yet employs and offense that built to march methodically down the field. HUH?

Are we really supposed to believe this will get better with the current regime in place? We have lost 11 in a row and have not been competitive in most of these games. I have seen worse football at Arrowhead recently than I ever imagined.

This may not get posted since it is not all pro Chiefs or pro Gretz. Just rememeber, after anger from the fans comes apathy from the fans….

We are $32M under the salary cap, are dumping tax payer money in to the stadium and are expected to wait patiently. Sorry, this is not MLB, this is the NFL where teams consistently turn around quickly.

Why is everyone so nice to this organization….. it is in dissary. Name one coach on this staff that has impressed you in the last 18 regular season games…. one

Sign me feed up beyond belief.

If the Chiefs want to instill confidence in this community, go after Bill Cowher and pay the price he is demanding. If he says no, go after Marriuchi (spelling ?).

This is currently disgusting..

Wait… is that Herm telling me to get over it…. Sorry…. what I have seen is not something I will get over.

Ray Farrens

If an 8 year or more Offensive lineman is a Free agent and/or available, it’s very likely he’s no good. Like McIntosh, a HORRIBLE FA signing. Like Terry. Like Turley. Thankfully and hopefully we are done pursuing and signing such players, and will try to develop Offensive Linemen in house.

Mark, your wrong my friend (he says in his best John McCain)
You don’t have to lock them into long term deals.

You actualy believe there are no guys out there that could help this O-Line??

PS Mark: I guess we just say (“QB your on your own buddy”) I hope your alive next season to come back and compete for our starting tackling dummy again, if not well get another one, no problem.

I noticed in the previous 2 games that the Qb would always roll out to his right. Since the right side of our O-line is the chiefs greatest weakness, it doesnt make too much sense.

It would probably make more sense to have them roll out away from mcsack.

I noticed that to findthedr, my only thought is that the blocking scheme was supposed to let the rush have the inside (or middle) of the field and and keep pushing them there while the QB rolls out against the grain.

for you fans who can remember steve fuller doesnt tyler look exactly like him and he wears the same number. i wish him better luck than fuller had here, i just hope sunday was just a small step back cause i got to tell u as a long time chiefs fan this is starting to get brutal watching this each week. as far as macintosh HE HAS GOT TO GO! why cant they admit they over paid for that clown!

I remember him…I’d prefer to think of Thigpen as a young Rich Gannon,
I’m getting redundant, that’s the 3rd time I’ve said that since pre season ~

I just had an Epiphany!!! Lets sign an Illegal alien, oops, I mean an undocumented worker (I don’t want to be politically incorrect) maybe a goal tender as a right tackle, or how about a soccer full back as a middle line backer.

I agree with the reasoning for starting Tyler Thigpen and having an opportunity to evaluate him or any other young quarterback we have on the roster. The same is true for all of the other young players. I still think the fundamental premise for evaluating the quarterbacks is flawed when the foundations on both sides of the ball are so ineffective, particularly the offensive line. How can you evaluate any young player adequately with the lack of competitive ability currently demonstrated by our offensive line? Hopefully the young players there will respond and improve but that’s not a given and may happen too late for any of the young signal callers we keep bringing in. I think it’s inherently unfair to them and that this is especially true given the simplistic and primitive offensive philosophy Herm Edwards prefers. Maybe there’s a correlation between these facts and his inability to keep a quarterback healthy wherever he coaches. Meanwhile we continue our transition in the league from punching bag to punch line. I still love the Chiefs but it’s sad to see this level of decline and the organizational excuse of “youth movement” is growing tiresome to even avid and lifelong fans.

Damn! Did my more eloquent side type that?
Cuz it sounds very much the same as what I said, only much better spoken.

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Arrowhead86,

You are wrong. The difference in Big Ben’s injury and Croyle’s are not the arm. Both injury’s are to the players throwing are. The difference is, Croyle has a separated shoulder, while Ben has a “sprained” shoulder. Tomlin had a presser about the misinformation on the injury on Monday.

Croyle has a valid doctor’s note and you can’t blame him for not playing.

I say draft Chase Daniel for 09 draft!

Dan? Do you have some deep hatred of Daniels, why do you wish him to be our next victim at QB?

Man, in one blog section one fan compared Thigpen to Brett Favre and another compared him to Rich Gannon. Oh I’m sorry, a “young” Favre and a “young” Rich Gannon. I’m glad you clowns aren’t scouts for this team or we’d have less talent out there than we do! You could probably write for Letterman though. Have we really lowered our expectations so much these last few years?

To be fair to your scouting skills though, Thigpen does have skills that translate. He has a penchant for getting happy feet in the pocket and throwing with sloppy mechanics like Gannon and the lack of judgment to make boneheaded throws into triple coverage like Favre. I guess he is a combo of the two. All of their weaknesses and none of their strengths!

And you Colby could write for CSI,SVU, No mater who is lined up at QB, when they get killed, it will definitely be a “crime scene” and the poor guy will definitely qualify as a “Special Victim”

So what is your point Colby, seems I remember that your the “big name QB guy, so whom do you suggest that we stand in the back field to get pummeled?

Even if this young team grows up someday and somehow starts winning games, how many are going to stick around? As the players mature they want more money as their value goes up in the league. If they feel they can get their market value elsewhere then they obviously will pursue that.

Right now there are several college teams who I feel could be competitive against our Chiefs. A good team is a balanced combination of young players and vets. This is how the young players learn. With so many young players on this team, some don’t even have a vet at the position they play, so the growing process is even more painful. Since when was veteran a dirty word?

“I’m not putting up with a season like last year again. I’m all out of “˜tried hard’ speeches.”
- Herm Edwards -

I saw this at the top of the page. I chuckled a little bit.

Thigpen is starting because the statue we call Huard would not last till half time being protected by the swinging gate we call the right side of our line. Free Barry Richardson! This is a youth movement right! He absolutely can’t be worse than Damion Sacintosh. Also How will we really know if Thiggy can improve if he does’nt play. Does a win against a crummy Falcon’s team really mean that much? I will never leave or forsake my CHIEF’s I was born a Chief’s and will die one to! GO CHIEFS!

I’m sorry, but starting Thigpen officially means that Herm has lost his mind. Whatever happened to “you play to win the game” herm? I was excited to get that Herm Edwards 3 years ago because he was passionate about winning and had won playoff games. This is not the same Herm Edwards, and it is clearly evident by this move. Putting Thigpen in at QB is completely foolish after the way he played sunday and during the preseason.

For this team to get better, they need to learn how to compete and they need to learn how to win. Putting in a QB that couldn’t make it with the Vikings is not going to make this team competitive. All it is going to do is stunt the growth of the rest of the young players.

Tighpen has a lot of talent. I though this from the start,and given a little time to break in his new shoes. He has what Rivers, and Cutler had .If you start in the as a bricklayer or plaster, You do not get joureryman pay untill you learn your job, nobuddy-nobuddy does,it takes some time . Ev en NFLU or Canidian levels have never had the right polish to give the shine it takes to get to the top overnight. there is not a coach on this team that is as perfect ME ! And, I am still just a fan, but, glad to be here.

Steven, have you watched Damon Huard this year???? 2 INTS in 16 attempts, injury prone, no mobility, no arm. Thigpen isn’t ready to play, but Huard Can’t play.

I don’t think our offensive line’s pass blocking has been as bad as we’re making it. Teams are stacking 8 and 9 men in the box and blitzing the heck out of us on third down for three reasons.

1. They know we’ll pass on third because we ran on 1st and 2nd.

2. They know they can blitz because our WRs can’t beat man coverage deep.

3. They know they can blitz because our QBs aren’t accurate or poised enough to burn them deep.

I did say I thought starting Thigpen was a better idea than starting Huard. I just don’t think Thigpen is a legitimate QB and I think anyone who compares him to Favre or Gannnon is out of their mind!

The problem with so many fans is that they can’t see past that protrusion from their face called the nose. Herman and the rest of the Chiefs organization are making decisions based on their (should be ours) ultimate goal of winning a championship. Unfortunately for those of you that need instant gratification, it is not winning this week. Sure they would like to win this week, but they know that right now they do not have the ingredients in place to win a championship. A championship, being the ultimate goal (not winning this week) will drive their decisions for this week and the next and the next. Now I realize that most of you (at least on this site) don’t believe that Herm and his staff can get it done. At this point that is a very debatable argument. I personally want a championship and I have my idea of how that could be accomplished. But since no one at arrowhead is returning my calls and they are ignoring my emails it seems to me an exercise in futility to post my ideas here since none of you would agree with me either. I therefore am currently putting all of my faith in Herman Edwards. I actually do believe in him but I hardly have a choice at this point. I doubt your infatuation with Cowher is going to get you a date. He probably has better offers anyway. I for one am not excited about a 13 & 3 season just to be let down in the playoffs. Green Bay was down for quite a few years before they started winning again and yes they are winning and young, well when we start winning again we will be young. Until Green Bay wins a Super Bowl berth it is not worth comparing their outline to ours. Herm notoriously will stick with a player for (what you all think is too long) a long time and give him every opportunity to get it done. Usually if they don’t and Herm is done with them he is really done with them. Herm’s basic philosophy is good. Get younger but more importantly get a locker room full of Chiefs. Guys that started as Chiefs and are loyal to the organization and fans. Do you really think that guys who leave their team for more money give a hoot about Chief’s fans and bringing them a championship. Some of you have impressed us with stats but there is really only one stat that matters and that is Super Bowl wins (lately). I think if the Hunts were satisfied with just filling the seats they would do whatever it took to win 9 or 10 game every year. They want to win a championship and they are taking a much smarter approach to that then the owner of the Redskins. Sure Snyder has fans jumping for joy with all the free agency signings, but what has he given them really?? His approach has failed miserably. I am amazed that so many of you think that the fans can influence what this organization is trying to accomplish. There are an awful lot of fair weather fans out there that will leave when we are losing and comeback and celebrate when we are winning and the Chiefs organization knows those kind all too well. I think that it is a ridiculous notion to think that our criticism is going effect what the Chiefs are going to do next. I think it is sad but there will always be those that like to criticize no matter what, I just wander if they ever get what they want? How many of you Herm hatesr would be willing to choke on your own words if he wins a championship? My guess would be very few. I don’t think the critical fans make this a better game, it is the supportive fan that makes the difference.

I have to agree with you “True Red & Gold”. I believe this rebuilding process is going to take this year and most likely into next year to reap the benefits. I believe one more draft will give us the players we need to be really successful. I think with starting three new offensive lineman and three defensive lineman as well as switching two more to a new position really hurts us. As I have said before it’s all going to start with the Of. and Def. lines. Most teams get away with installing one new linemen a year. So with the stability in the line we have had in the past, makes it that much harder to watch this growing process. This is not to say I enjoyed last Sunday’s loss but I am hopeful we are on the road to getting a better team then trying to continually plug in aging veterans who were set adrift by their former teams for a good reason (overpriced for declining talent). I find it hard to really eveluate a QB when every play he is running for his life and the RB has no holes to run thru. The only back I ever watched who could make a really poor line look great was Barry Sanders. So I’m still just hoping for a win this Sunday and then go from there. GO CHIEFS!

People who criticize the team are the TRUE fans because we’re the ones who care if the team sucks. Fans who just accept a crappy team for what it is and dog everyone who disagrees are just blindly loyal fans. Some of us on here just care a little more. Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.

I just feel sorry for guys like Gonzalez and Donnie Edwards and Pat Surtain and Brian Waters who have limited time left to get a championship and are forced to throw a year of their careers away waiting for Clark Hunt and company to decide to get competitive. They’re too classy to pull an Ocho Cinco and demand a trade (in public anyway) so you know they must be frustrated.

Colby, if what you say is true, then the real fans rarely enjoy a game. Why bother? Just go golfing if you want to be disgusted!
It seems to me that the only thing ya’ll care about is if the team sucks.

True Red & Gold. you said:
“Herman and the rest of the Chiefs organization are making decisions based on their (should be ours) ultimate goal of winning a championship.”

that is done through a combination of the draft and free agency. Furthermore players need to be developed and put into a system to win. Herm said that Chan’s simplified offense is supposed to be tailored to the players ability, but so far it appears that they are trying to force the players to win in their system in which the oline/dline is supposed to physically dominate the opponent. That hasnt happened.

“Green Bay was down for quite a few years before they started winning again and yes they are winning and young, ”

2003 record 10-6
2004 record 10-6
2005 record 4-12
2006 record 8-8
2007 record 13-3

They have had only 1 losing season in at least the last 7 yrs.

“well when we start winning again we will be young. Until Green Bay wins a Super Bowl berth it is not worth comparing their outline to ours.”

you ASSUME that the chiefs will be young by the time they start winning again. That is an unknown. Team might very well be old.

“Herm notoriously will stick with a player for (what you all think is too long) a long time and give him every opportunity to get it done.”

Refrence Justin Medlock

“Herm’s basic philosophy is good. Get younger but more importantly get a locker room full of Chiefs. Guys that started as Chiefs and are loyal to the organization and fans.”

that didnt work with Jared Allen. The NFL is a buisness. Teams arent loyal to players and players arent loyal to teams. Everyone does what is in their best interest ($$$).

“Some of you have impressed us with stats but there is really only one stat that matters and that is Super Bowl wins (lately). ”

chiefs are one of a handful of teams that havent even been in a superbowl in the last 30yrs.

“I think if the Hunts were satisfied with just filling the seats they would do whatever it took to win 9 or 10 game every year.”

So is this Herm’s 5 yr plan?! lol.

“They want to win a championship and they are taking a much smarter approach to that then the owner of the Redskins. Sure Snyder has fans jumping for joy with all the free agency signings, but what has he given them really?? His approach has failed miserably.”

this isnt either a choice between Free Agents and drafted players. We can have both. Although you cited the Redskins, you failed to mention New England that have key FA on both offense and defense that have made the team better. They didnt just close their eyes to free agency because their were better players that they didnt draft. They didnt stick with ideology but did what they needed to make there TEAM better.

“I am amazed that so many of you think that the fans can influence what this organization is trying to accomplish.”

Not purchasing tickets, blackouts, decreased buisness sponsorships, and tax proposals for the chiefs will influence the orginization. You are forgetting that the NFL is essentially ‘entertainment.’

“There are an awful lot of fair weather fans out there that will leave when we are losing and comeback and celebrate when we are winning and the Chiefs organization knows those kind all too well.’

yes, and their are also an equal amount of fans that are ‘yes men’ that will blindly agree with anything the orginization says. The ones that truly care are vocal (and willing) enough to stand up and say ‘the emperor has no clothes on.’

I think we all really care about the Chiefs, some of us just want to vent our anger about this last loss more then others. That’s what is so great about our country, the ability to be critical in public. That being said I would like to say I prefer to try to look for any positives I can find in the plays from Sunday. I think there is growth, just at a slow pace at times. I don’t think we are as good as the Patriot’s game would show or as bad as the Raiders game would show. If that makes me a “blindly loyal fan”, then so be it. GO CHIEFS!

This web sight is starting to more than warm up. If you look at every postion as a peice of a pie and to make it come out perfect, every thing that goes in has to just the very best, tnen did Elway, Montana, Brady, Bradshaw, Moon, Marino — start under the perception that they were perfection from the day they started. I have been to places that I did not want to go to, and ended having the best time of my life after I got there. I would like to see this play out.

An intersting side note. The above named QBs had excellent coaching staffs to help them along.

Do we as fans really believe that the current regime from GM down to position coach is really good at what they do.

Does Herm provide a sense of optimism and hope to our fans like Marty did when he came here?

Part of a GM and Head Coaches job is to get the fans energized about the team. They may not like it but it is true. It may not be what they say (see Bellichek), it may be what they do.

Being $32M under the salary cap and putting this product on the field is more than disgusting.

Please don’t tell me I am not a ‘True REd and Gold’ fan. I have had season tickets since 99 and from 99-04 drove 530 miles round trip to watch.

I am a fan that will stand up and say enough is enough. Going young should not equal a train wreck, not in today’s world of high salary cap $$ and free agency.

I will say that many fans must feel the way I do since BLACKOUTS are here to stay for the rest of 2008. Enjoy the empty seats Carl, Clark and Herm…. the Arrowhead advantage is gone.

Why does this guy even get a chance to “tryout” during a regular season game? Thigpen’s career completion percentage is 41%. Enough said. By he way, that photo going around the internet of him having sex with a skelton is really classy. That’s what I look for in the leader of a football team.

Colby!!!! GET OVER YOUR HYPOGONATROPHIC- HYPOGONADISM. (make sure you look this up, because there is a treatment for it) Just because I disagree with your only, and obsessive opinion that unless the Chiefs have a “big named” QB starting for us we shouldn’t even go play the games.

Please don’t take my STRONG disagreement with your boring, uninfromed rants as a sign of your opinion mattering to me in any form or fashion.

King Carl and the Chiefs braintrust have gotten us into this situation by being too clever by half, i.e., chasing off John Tait, drafting down to take Junior Siavii, etc. Two smarter moves there, alone, would have left us in far better shape today. Meanwhile, Herm’s game plan seems to be to hope we’re able to tie the game on the last drive … Pathetic…

“September 17, 2008 – Arrowhead86 says:
Bob, excellent analysis. I fully agree and thought the same thing when the news was announced today.

Kietzman was asking on 810am radio today if anyone thought Thigpen was a better option to win Sunday than Huard. I wish I could have called in and told him I was one! I saw a defensive gameplan from the Raiders last week that was all about attacking the pocket.. that was designed with Huard in mind. In a fill in pinch.. Huard can be effective. When he’s the starter and game-planned for.. he is a major weakspot. If we had a line that could protect.. that opinion would change somewhat.. unfortunately for him.. that is not the case. Beyond that, he severly limits Chan’s playbook (rollouts and such).

I am on board with Thigpen starting this week. He better be well prepared by the coaches. The panic throws into coverage can’t be so prevalent!

One more thing regarding Kietzman today and our other QB, Brodie Croyle. He wrongly compared him with Ben Rothlisberger whom is also suffering a shoulder injury. Brodie’s is his THROWING ARM.. Big Ben’s is his NON-throwing arm. He claimed that was the bottom line statement as to what kind of player Croyle is. Not one person called him out on it. Shameful. Can’t wait for Petro to discuss that fact tomorrow!

Hurry back Croyle”
plz dont listen to kietzman he dont know jack about football all he does is sit and criticize Carl Peterson and rightly so but isnt that getting lame by now. He makes up stories about what he thinks Clark Hunt will and should do about the chiefs.

Well I guess this is where everyone is at. Sounds we are all frustrated and have a right to be but I have to join the fact that I like what Herm is doing aside from McSack (stole that from someone on here I liked it) on the right side if we are going young put B.Rich or H.Taylor over there and see what they got. Also I think all of you are fans we just have a different way of looking at things. But most of you who are looking to fire most or all of the staff going young takes time and yes even after this year we may not have a QB and getting some OLD ass future Hall of fame QB is not going to work Montana fizzeled out and he was the Best QB probably to play the game. We also had a pretty good Defense back then. Hey if we get the 1st pick next year Matt Stafford out of Georgia looks pretty good.:))

Bob,

I want to thank you. Reading your articles gives me hope in a year without hope. I read your article on kcchiefs.com titled “It’s A Tough, Long Fight” and it made me feel foolish for being so down in the dumps about this season. I knew going in that this year is all about rebuilding and is just a stepping stone to better seasons down the road. I guess I forgot all that when the Chiefs came so close to beating the unbeatable Patriots only to turn around and get blown away by the pathetic Raiders at Arrowhead. Thanks for keeping us all straight and keep up the great work.

Harold,

its not you that should feel foolish, but rather the chiefs. They are responsible for their play on the field…not you.

The Chiefs are so down in the dumps about losing. This a well known fact by all of us, right? Then I have a solution to help the Chiefs get some confidence back in their backbone. Just go play Dippsie Doodle State College on a Thursday,(so that they’ll remember by the weekend), whip ‘em real good, and feel good about themselves. (yes, I should write for David Letterman)