Comments on: What the Chiefs Got Done … Thursday Cup O’Chiefs http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html Dedicated to providing the best coverage of the Kansas City Chiefs. News, commentary, reports, and exclusive inside information - daily! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:27:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: alex k http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19699 alex k Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:37:25 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19699 I dont believe they got shafted, but if 2 of those guys become pro bowl players its an argument you just cant make I dont believe they got shafted, but if 2 of those guys become pro bowl players its an argument you just cant make

]]> By: anonymous http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19698 anonymous Fri, 19 Jun 2009 04:26:37 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19698 If ya have the best milk cow in the county, you don't trade it away for 3 birthing Calves, just because your milk cow got out of the fence a time or two! It's a pipe dream boys. That trade for Allen was no where near the trade that the Cowboys made with Walker, as Peterson tried to suggest. Sometimes you get the elevator, sometimes you get the shaft. The Chiefs got shafted! The successful teams package future draft picks to acquire more picks, or move up to fill your position of need, not trade away the best player on the team. Or maybe the blame should be laid at Herms feet, as some want to give Herm credit for the draft, which is a personnel decision too! Can't have it both ways conehead! If ya have the best milk cow in the county, you don’t trade it away for 3 birthing Calves, just because your milk cow got out of the fence a time or two!

It’s a pipe dream boys. That trade for Allen was no where near the trade that the Cowboys made with Walker, as Peterson tried to suggest.

Sometimes you get the elevator, sometimes you get the shaft. The Chiefs got shafted!

The successful teams package future draft picks to acquire more picks, or move up to fill your position of need, not trade away the best player on the team.

Or maybe the blame should be laid at Herms feet, as some want to give Herm credit for the draft, which is a personnel decision too!

Can’t have it both ways conehead!

]]> By: RedandGoldRice http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19697 RedandGoldRice Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:00:46 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19697 Mark says: "He was absolutey dreadful his last year here, far worse than Rudy was last year". I agree Mark. Part of that was due to the offense Harm wanted to run vs. the offense Vermeil had run with Weigmann at center. Harm wanted to run a smash mouth, up the gut offense compared to Dick's pull and run type O. Weigmann didn't fit and needed to be moved. Hopefully we'll find another center that can be effective along with a RG upgrade that isn't long at the tooth. Mark says:
“He was absolutey dreadful his last year here, far worse than Rudy was last year”.

I agree Mark. Part of that was due to the offense Harm wanted to run vs. the offense Vermeil had run with Weigmann at center. Harm wanted to run a smash mouth, up the gut offense compared to Dick’s pull and run type O. Weigmann didn’t fit and needed to be moved. Hopefully we’ll find another center that can be effective along with a RG upgrade that isn’t long at the tooth.

]]> By: Mark http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19693 Mark Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:14:12 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19693 Have to defend Carl on getting rid of Casey. He was absolutey dreadful his last year here, far worse than Rudy was last year. He looked and played like he was done. Why he quit on the Chiefs, and rebounded with Denver is on Casey, but cutting him was the correct move, at the time. Have to defend Carl on getting rid of Casey. He was absolutey dreadful his last year here, far worse than Rudy was last year. He looked and played like he was done. Why he quit on the Chiefs, and rebounded with Denver is on Casey, but cutting him was the correct move, at the time.

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19691 Rin Tin Tin Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:38:49 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19691 Yup, Herm is STILL The Man! heh heh heh :-) Yup, Herm is STILL The Man!

heh heh heh

:-)

]]> By: Kevin B http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19690 Kevin B Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:44:29 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19690 Lets look at this. If we had not rid ourselves of Richardson, Allen, and Wiegmann, things may have been very different last year. The cover 2 relies on blitz. If given alot of time the offense can annihilate the zone D. We had a lot of sacks in 07. Our defense would have been MUCH improved had we kept Allen. Herm was made to look like an all around fool but I think the loss of Allen devastated Herm's plans at cover 2. On offense Richardson could have certainly helped save Croyle and maybe pushed the defense back another, I mean initial 6 inches so that Larry would not have to run into the backs of retreating MCinSack, and our flustered guard. Weigmann would have helped to say the least. I thought it was time for a change but Herm didn't really get a fair shake. As of this year, I am hoping that we use a lot of crazy scheming and tricks or we are toast. I am looking forward to seeing some acquisitions and improvement this year. I would love to be surprised but I am just hopeful for 2010. Don't know if I want to doll out the 300 bucks for Sunday ticket just yet Lets look at this. If we had not rid ourselves of Richardson, Allen, and Wiegmann, things may have been very different last year. The cover 2 relies on blitz. If given alot of time the offense can annihilate the zone D. We had a lot of sacks in 07. Our defense would have been MUCH improved had we kept Allen. Herm was made to look like an all around fool but I think the loss of Allen devastated Herm’s plans at cover 2. On offense Richardson could have certainly helped save Croyle and maybe pushed the defense back another, I mean initial 6 inches so that Larry would not have to run into the backs of retreating MCinSack, and our flustered guard. Weigmann would have helped to say the least. I thought it was time for a change but Herm didn’t really get a fair shake. As of this year, I am hoping that we use a lot of crazy scheming and tricks or we are toast. I am looking forward to seeing some acquisitions and improvement this year. I would love to be surprised but I am just hopeful for 2010. Don’t know if I want to doll out the 300 bucks for Sunday ticket just yet

]]> By: arrowhead1978 http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19689 arrowhead1978 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 00:03:11 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19689 Yea I agree Behind enemy lines, I was saying that when he wanted the long term contract but didn't want to stop drinkning and driving. missing the first two games of the season because of suspension, which really should have been the first 4 games. It was a good deal, we needed that LT, there is no Roaf out there that we could grab for a couple of years.... Yea I agree Behind enemy lines, I was saying that when he wanted the long term contract but didn’t want to stop drinkning and driving. missing the first two games of the season because of suspension, which really should have been the first 4 games. It was a good deal, we needed that LT, there is no Roaf out there that we could grab for a couple of years….

]]> By: alex k http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19688 alex k Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:51:40 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19688 oh I agree, I like Albert, i think hes a potential pro bowl Lt, I like Charles, hes a potential sproles type, and morgan who knows...as for Cottam, I think he can step up as well, we did get good value, I still question the Morgan pick however, lets hope he can step up, nab that 3rd safety spot, not signing mike brown is a good sign. oh I agree, I like Albert, i think hes a potential pro bowl Lt, I like Charles, hes a potential sproles type, and morgan who knows…as for Cottam, I think he can step up as well, we did get good value, I still question the Morgan pick however, lets hope he can step up, nab that 3rd safety spot, not signing mike brown is a good sign.

]]> By: anonymous http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19687 anonymous Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:26:17 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19687 Speaking of BA (Brandon Albert) http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=26&c=375&f=28438 He says he played at 340 lbs last season, he's now a svelte 305! It's a worth a listen. Speaking of BA (Brandon Albert)

http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=26&c=375&f=28438

He says he played at 340 lbs last season, he’s now a svelte 305!

It’s a worth a listen.

]]> By: Behind Enemy Lines http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19686 Behind Enemy Lines Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:58:09 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19686 I'm not too bummed about the Jared Allen trade. There is no question he is a talented pass rusher and our pass rush was virtually non-existent last year...but we got a great LT in Branden Albert. LT is probably more valuable than DE. We also got Charles, Morgan and Cottam in the 3rd round. I think 2 of those are because of the trade. Overall we got great value and the Vikings are overpaying while hoping Allen doesn't get another DUI. I'd do that trade 100 times over. Anybody else? I’m not too bummed about the Jared Allen trade. There is no question he is a talented pass rusher and our pass rush was virtually non-existent last year…but we got a great LT in Branden Albert. LT is probably more valuable than DE. We also got Charles, Morgan and Cottam in the 3rd round. I think 2 of those are because of the trade. Overall we got great value and the Vikings are overpaying while hoping Allen doesn’t get another DUI. I’d do that trade 100 times over. Anybody else?

]]> By: ILChiefsFan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19685 ILChiefsFan Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:29:41 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19685 In the vein of gorillafan: MAC? Yes (at least better than last year; I expect to see more blocking from tight ends this season, too) Cassel arm? My guess is that policy would COST about $14M at this point WR? Bowe, Engram, Bradley/Darling In the vein of gorillafan:

MAC? Yes (at least better than last year; I expect to see more blocking from tight ends this season, too)
Cassel arm? My guess is that policy would COST about $14M at this point
WR? Bowe, Engram, Bradley/Darling

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19684 gorillafan Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:18:52 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19684 I understand SG, it just gets old for me, but thats just me, and I could bet most AGREE. to your questions, my time is short right now MAC? NO Cassell arm? YES WR? Bradley I understand SG, it just gets old for me, but thats just me, and I could bet most AGREE.

to your questions, my time is short right now

MAC? NO
Cassell arm? YES
WR? Bradley

]]> By: SG http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19683 SG Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:29:44 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19683 "Were talking about him AGAIN..." As a reminder, "we" includes you - which appears to be by decision of you. "...out of line, I know. But someone needs to say it." No - you really didn't need to boss man. How about talking about something else...is D-Mac gonna get the job done - or does KC need to talk to Lloyds of London about getting a $14-million insurance policy on Cassel's arm? Who will take the WR spot opposite D-Bowe? Are you leading by example? - I'm addressing certain issues directly - treating men as men and asking them to raise the bar so we have some real discourse in here. “Were talking about him AGAIN…”

As a reminder, “we” includes you – which appears to be by decision of you.

“…out of line, I know. But someone needs to say it.”

No – you really didn’t need to boss man. How about talking about something else…is D-Mac gonna get the job done – or does KC need to talk to Lloyds of London about getting a $14-million insurance policy on Cassel’s arm? Who will take the WR spot opposite D-Bowe? Are you leading by example? – I’m addressing certain issues directly – treating men as men and asking them to raise the bar so we have some real discourse in here.

]]> By: RedandGoldRice http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19681 RedandGoldRice Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:16:41 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19681 Scott says: "Haley knows a thing or two about working with receivers...and he's coached some good ones. So let's hope he can turn Bowe into a "monster". Oh yeah! And if he can bring out the best in one or two more wide outs, we could have a threatening offense. Here's a few I'd like to see step up and make an impact this year. Taurus Johnson Devard Darling Mark Bradley Scott says:
“Haley knows a thing or two about working with receivers…and he’s coached some good ones. So let’s hope he can turn Bowe into a “monster”.

Oh yeah! And if he can bring out the best in one or two more wide outs, we could have a threatening offense. Here’s a few I’d like to see step up and make an impact this year.

Taurus Johnson
Devard Darling
Mark Bradley

]]> By: Merwin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19679 Merwin Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:03:16 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19679 I just found this on the Sporting news web site: Mo. board revises training camp deal for Chiefs Associated Press Comments (0)More Thursday, Jun. 18, 2009 - 2:00 p.m. ET JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. -- Missouri officials have approved a deal to bring the Kansas City Chiefs training camp back to Missouri for at least 10 years. The agreement approved Thursday by the Missouri Development Finance Board guarantees the Chiefs will train in Missouri over that span in exchange for $25 million in tax credits. If the Chiefs don't follow through, they would owe penalties to the state. The board approved the tax credits in December, but Gov. Jay Nixon's administration said the deal covered only five years. The Chiefs currently train at the University of Wisconsin in River Falls. They plan to move their summer camp to Missouri Western State University in St. Joseph next year. Copyright 2009 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. I just found this on the Sporting news web site:

Mo. board revises training camp deal for Chiefs
Associated Press Comments (0)More
Thursday, Jun. 18, 2009 – 2:00 p.m. ET
JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. — Missouri officials have approved a deal to bring the Kansas City Chiefs training camp back to Missouri for at least 10 years.
The agreement approved Thursday by the Missouri Development Finance Board guarantees the Chiefs will train in Missouri over that span in exchange for $25 million in tax credits. If the Chiefs don’t follow through, they would owe penalties to the state.
The board approved the tax credits in December, but Gov. Jay Nixon’s administration said the deal covered only five years.
The Chiefs currently train at the University of Wisconsin in River Falls. They plan to move their summer camp to Missouri Western State University in St. Joseph next year.
Copyright 2009 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

]]> By: Scott http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19678 Scott Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:56:08 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19678 RedandGoldRice says: "Good one. He sounds more humble and accountable. Maybe more focused on what needs to happen and less on the "show". Lets hope it transferrs over to the field and game." Yeah...here's hoping. Remember, the only Coach Bowe's had at this level was Herm. And we all know what that was like. Haley knows a thing or two about working with receivers...and he's coached some good ones. So let's hope he can turn Bowe into a "monster". RedandGoldRice says:
“Good one. He sounds more humble and accountable. Maybe more focused on what needs to happen and less on the “show”. Lets hope it transferrs over to the field and game.”

Yeah…here’s hoping. Remember, the only Coach Bowe’s had at this level was Herm. And we all know what that was like.

Haley knows a thing or two about working with receivers…and he’s coached some good ones. So let’s hope he can turn Bowe into a “monster”.

]]> By: RedandGoldRice http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19674 RedandGoldRice Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:33:32 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19674 Good one. He sounds more humble and accountable. Maybe more focused on what needs to happen and less on the "show". Lets hope it transferrs over to the field and game. Good one. He sounds more humble and accountable. Maybe more focused on what needs to happen and less on the “show”. Lets hope it transferrs over to the field and game.

]]> By: anonymous http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19673 anonymous Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:08:30 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19673 Bowe's singing a different tune now boys, if you'll remember back to his comments from a week or so ago. http://videos.kansascity.com/vmix_hosted_apps/p/media?id=4461744&item_index=2&query=Bowe&sort=NULL That was then.... This is now.... http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=26&c=373&f=28419 Notice any subtle difference? Bowe’s singing a different tune now boys, if you’ll remember back to his comments from a week or so ago.

http://videos.kansascity.com/vmix_hosted_apps/p/media?id=4461744&item_index=2&query=Bowe&sort=NULL

That was then….

This is now….

http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=26&c=373&f=28419

Notice any subtle difference?

]]> By: Josh http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19672 Josh Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:06:19 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19672 gorillafan, PROBABLY? No, there's no doubt in my mind, he's in his own personal ecstacy. gorillafan,

PROBABLY? No, there’s no doubt in my mind, he’s in his own personal ecstacy.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19671 gorillafan Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:02:07 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19671 p.s. Great article today, looking forward to fridays cup p.s. Great article today, looking forward to fridays cup

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19670 gorillafan Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:00:41 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19670 FAKE RIN, REAL RIN, IT DONT MATTER, ITS RIN. I can take alot, but this (RIN) is just freaking stupid Were talking about him AGAIN, so hes probably pleasuring himself now!--out of line, I know. But someone needs to say it FAKE RIN, REAL RIN, IT DONT MATTER, ITS RIN.

I can take alot, but this (RIN) is just freaking stupid

Were talking about him AGAIN, so hes probably pleasuring himself now!–out of line, I know. But someone needs to say it

]]> By: Harold C. http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19667 Harold C. Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:04:29 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19667 Real Rin or fake Rin....it's all the same. Fake Rin has real Rin down pretty good. But I'm not talking about Rin....no....it's Whitlock....yeah....I'm talking about Whitlock.....or he could be Jaywalk that I have seen posting in other forums. They are interchangeable. ANYWAY.......great article Bob. More...more..... Real Rin or fake Rin….it’s all the same. Fake Rin has real Rin down pretty good.

But I’m not talking about Rin….no….it’s Whitlock….yeah….I’m talking about Whitlock…..or he could be Jaywalk that I have seen posting in other forums. They are interchangeable.

ANYWAY…….great article Bob. More…more…..

]]> By: SuperbowlIVVictors http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19666 SuperbowlIVVictors Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:58:34 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19666 Rintard, I command you to kill yourself! Rintard,

I command you to kill yourself!

]]> By: RedandGoldRice http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19660 RedandGoldRice Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:02:59 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19660 anonymous says: Not signing Wiegman was bad, but the deal with Jared Allen was inexcusable!! Jared Allen forced his way out of here becuase he hated King Carl. Carl and Herm decided they'd get what they could for him. We'll have to see if that ever pans out for us, but make no mistake, we #1 lost a damn good player and #2 had to because of Carl Peterson, plain and simple. anonymous says:
Not signing Wiegman was bad, but the deal with Jared Allen was inexcusable!!

Jared Allen forced his way out of here becuase he hated King Carl. Carl and Herm decided they’d get what they could for him. We’ll have to see if that ever pans out for us, but make no mistake, we #1 lost a damn good player and #2 had to because of Carl Peterson, plain and simple.

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19659 Rin Tin Tin Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:58:27 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19659 Fake Rin post above replying to head cheif...cue yet another Elton John paraphrase: "Green eyes... fake Rin's got, green eyes." heh heh heh :-) Fake Rin post above replying to head cheif…cue yet another Elton John paraphrase: “Green eyes… fake Rin’s got, green eyes.”

heh heh heh

:-)

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19658 Rin Tin Tin Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:56:46 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19658 Scott says "Rin Tin Tin" - yes, what is it now? "We'll see JW...we'll see." - oh, so you have a drinking problem, Scottie... "Not that I really need more motivation" - the more you drink the better 'search' & 'check' will appear - until you stop... "to see my team do well" - you will have to find another team... "but I can't wait" - it's been 40 years now; you can wait... "to see you" - is to love me: Rin... "proven" - a fact. And you are? "wrong. Yet again." - as always - good, we've consensus then... "Oh...and the key words in the quote you quoted?" - well if you're not sure... "ended the off-season." - came the next nigh on... "Off season." - next season... "Get it?" - got it? Good! "The OFF SEASON." - the NEXT SEASON... "Translation for the IQ challenged?" - well again, if you're not certain then you must be the latter... "The season has not started yet." - the end is near...'search' & 'check' are here... :-) Scott says

“Rin Tin Tin”

- yes, what is it now?

“We’ll see JW…we’ll see.”

- oh, so you have a drinking problem, Scottie…

“Not that I really need more motivation”

- the more you drink the better ‘search’ & ‘check’ will appear – until you stop…

“to see my team do well”

- you will have to find another team…

“but I can’t wait”

- it’s been 40 years now; you can wait…

“to see you”

- is to love me: Rin…

“proven”

- a fact. And you are?

“wrong. Yet again.”

- as always – good, we’ve consensus then…

“Oh…and the key words in the quote you quoted?”

- well if you’re not sure…

“ended the off-season.”

- came the next nigh on…

“Off season.”

- next season…

“Get it?”

- got it? Good!

“The OFF SEASON.”

- the NEXT SEASON…

“Translation for the IQ challenged?”

- well again, if you’re not certain then you must be the latter…

“The season has not started yet.”

- the end is near…’search’ & ‘check’ are here…

:-)

]]> By: anonymous http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19657 anonymous Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:54:03 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19657 alex k, Not many Centers are asked (nor capable) to pull as a lead blocker like Wiegman did. alex k,
Not many Centers are asked (nor capable) to pull as a lead blocker like Wiegman did.

]]> By: SG http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19655 SG Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:49:28 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19655 "how is getting rid of casey a mistake?" You're not alex k stepanovich are you? There might still be a job opening for you - we've got millions and millions in cap room - Wiegmann's no longer here and his replacements aren't exactly inspiring awe and fear. Just to help you out al on your question, we not only let go of casey with nobody #1 and nobody #2 to replace him, but our #1(a) rival, the Denver Donks, ended up landing a Pro-Bowl Center at a bargain basement price. If he didn't fit here, he certainly fit there...and I can't say it's benefitted us much. “how is getting rid of casey a mistake?”

You’re not alex k stepanovich are you? There might still be a job opening for you – we’ve got millions and millions in cap room – Wiegmann’s no longer here and his replacements aren’t exactly inspiring awe and fear.

Just to help you out al on your question, we not only let go of casey with nobody #1 and nobody #2 to replace him, but our #1(a) rival, the Denver Donks, ended up landing a Pro-Bowl Center at a bargain basement price. If he didn’t fit here, he certainly fit there…and I can’t say it’s benefitted us much.

]]> By: anonymous http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19654 anonymous Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:47:41 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19654 Merwin, Great point! I can't believe I let Richardson s release slip my mind. Merwin, Great point! I can’t believe I let Richardson s release slip my mind.

]]> By: SG http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19653 SG Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:41:32 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19653 The "OFF" SEASON Hopefully not for long (with regard to passing accuracy)...LOL The “OFF” SEASON

Hopefully not for long (with regard to passing accuracy)…LOL

]]> By: Merwin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19650 Merwin Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:31:16 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19650 Another guy the Chiefs could have used last year who was cast off was Tony Richardson. He will be with the Jets when they go to training camp this summer, at age 37. Since I am working 1/4 mile away from the Cortland State campus here in central NY, I hope to get a chance to say hi to him. Priest and Larry had their best seasons running behind Tony and that great offensive line. Another guy the Chiefs could have used last year who was cast off was Tony Richardson. He will be with the Jets when they go to training camp this summer, at age 37. Since I am working 1/4 mile away from the Cortland State campus here in central NY, I hope to get a chance to say hi to him. Priest and Larry had their best seasons running behind Tony and that great offensive line.

]]> By: Scott http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19648 Scott Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:28:42 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19648 alex k says: "how is getting rid of casey a mistake? hes a SMALL center, he cant play our offense and wouldve been KILLED in the spread." Well...Casey went to the Pro Bowl last year, for one. And he's WAY better than Rudy Niswanger. That's why I'd call it a mistake. But...that's just me. alex k says:
“how is getting rid of casey a mistake? hes a SMALL center, he cant play our offense and wouldve been KILLED in the spread.”

Well…Casey went to the Pro Bowl last year, for one. And he’s WAY better than Rudy Niswanger. That’s why I’d call it a mistake. But…that’s just me.

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19646 Rin Tin Tin Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:21:39 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19646 head cheif, it's spelled CHIEF. head cheif, it’s spelled CHIEF.

]]> By: alex k http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19644 alex k Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:13:20 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19644 how is getting rid of casey a mistake? hes a SMALL center, he cant play our offense and wouldve been KILLED in the spread. how is getting rid of casey a mistake? hes a SMALL center, he cant play our offense and wouldve been KILLED in the spread.

]]> By: head cheif http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19643 head cheif Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:53:06 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19643 good article bob keep up the good work good article bob keep up the good work

]]> By: Scott http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19641 Scott Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:49:38 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19641 Rin Tin Tin says: "- yes, as in 0-16..." We'll see, JW...we'll see. Not that I really need more motivation to see my team do well...but I can't wait to see you proven wrong. Yet again. Oh...and the key words in the quote you quoted? "...ended the off-season..." Off season. Get it? The OFF SEASON. Translation for the IQ challenged? The season has not started yet. Rin Tin Tin says:
“- yes, as in 0-16…”

We’ll see, JW…we’ll see.

Not that I really need more motivation to see my team do well…but I can’t wait to see you proven wrong. Yet again.

Oh…and the key words in the quote you quoted?

“…ended the off-season…”

Off season. Get it? The OFF SEASON. Translation for the IQ challenged? The season has not started yet.

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19640 Rin Tin Tin Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:35:47 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19640 "There's no question the Chiefs passing game ended the off-season with more work to do." - matt "too many overthrown and underthrown passes and too many missed connections." - cassel... Much ado about nothing... aka 'search' & 'check' '09. "Any 22 will do" - yes, as in 0-16... :-) “There’s no question the Chiefs passing game ended the off-season with more work to do.”

- matt

“too many overthrown and underthrown passes and too many missed connections.”

- cassel…

Much ado about nothing… aka ‘search’ & ‘check’ ’09. “Any 22 will do” – yes, as in 0-16…

:-)

]]> By: anonymous http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19639 anonymous Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:31:02 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19639 I'm not worried about LJ, if he reverts back to past form, I think Battle can play the power back roll, and be just as productive. But the key is there has to be a hole to run through, regardless of who's running the ball, and even more importantly, the coach has to have the will to run the ball. Last season, Herm and Gailey just flat quit trying to run the ball. Remember Herms Stupid remark about "the short passing game was the same as running the ball"? I could be way wrong, but I feel like the Chiefs are set (barring multiple injuries) at Running Back. On the topic of Peterson, Not signing Wiegman was bad, but the deal with Jared Allen was inexcusable!! Thanks Author, Outstanding! I’m not worried about LJ, if he reverts back to past form, I think Battle can play the power back roll, and be just as productive. But the key is there has to be a hole to run through, regardless of who’s running the ball, and even more importantly, the coach has to have the will to run the ball. Last season, Herm and Gailey just flat quit trying to run the ball. Remember Herms Stupid remark about “the short passing game was the same as running the ball”?

I could be way wrong, but I feel like the Chiefs are set (barring multiple injuries) at Running Back.

On the topic of Peterson, Not signing Wiegman was bad, but the deal with Jared Allen was inexcusable!!

Thanks Author, Outstanding!

]]> By: jimbo http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19635 jimbo Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:20:10 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19635 Bob, You're a Tireless Trooper. Thank You... I heard the Chiefs are about to sign kicker Succop. I think this kid could be a good one. Would make a great story in December if the last player selected in the draft turned out to be a talented & clutch kicker. I have felt good about LJ for quite some time this year. He has been quiet, timely and for all intents & purposes a good soldier. If this does'nt change, I expect a great year out of him. If you think about it, he has'nt been knocked around or beat up in the last two seasons. I agree with Colby he looked good in 08. We fell behind in games so often last year, that we had to pass all the time. I also agree with Haley's approach on training camp. If the guys are in great shape & already have some knowledge of the new systems being implemented. They should have a leg up & ready for actual "Training Camp" not conditioning camp. A vast step ahead of seasons past. Go Chiefs! Bob, You’re a Tireless Trooper. Thank You…

I heard the Chiefs are about to sign kicker Succop. I think this kid could be a good one. Would make a great story in December if the last player selected in the draft turned out to be a talented & clutch kicker.

I have felt good about LJ for quite some time this year. He has been quiet, timely and for all intents & purposes a good soldier. If this does’nt change, I expect a great year out of him. If you think about it, he has’nt been knocked around or beat up in the last two seasons. I agree with Colby he looked good in 08. We fell behind in games so often last year, that we had to pass all the time.
I also agree with Haley’s approach on training camp. If the guys are in great shape & already have some knowledge of the new systems being implemented. They should have a leg up & ready for actual “Training Camp” not conditioning camp. A vast step ahead of seasons past. Go Chiefs!

]]> By: Scott http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19631 Scott Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:36:46 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19631 I hope you're right, Colby. Because if we can't run the ball this year...we'll be screwed. In addition to Edge, Dunn could be a good pick-up. These guys know how to get it done. Certainly not the every-down backs they once were...but still have some gas in the tank. They're both "pros"...and could also help "mentor" LJ on how act, on the field and off. SG, I think getting rid of Casey was a BIG mistake. It's one thing to let a veteran player go...but only if you have someone good to replace them. We obviously didn't. And still don't. I hope you’re right, Colby. Because if we can’t run the ball this year…we’ll be screwed.

In addition to Edge, Dunn could be a good pick-up. These guys know how to get it done. Certainly not the every-down backs they once were…but still have some gas in the tank. They’re both “pros”…and could also help “mentor” LJ on how act, on the field and off.

SG,

I think getting rid of Casey was a BIG mistake. It’s one thing to let a veteran player go…but only if you have someone good to replace them. We obviously didn’t. And still don’t.

]]> By: Gump http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19629 Gump Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:30:09 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19629 Good stuff Bob! Keep up the good work. Thanks. Good stuff Bob! Keep up the good work. Thanks.

]]> By: colby http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19628 colby Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:20:38 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19628 Edge is definitely still out there, so is Warrick Dunn, DeShaun Foster, and Rudi Johnson. It's tough for a veteran RB these days. At the first sign of trouble, the Chiefs can quickly go in a different direction at RB. I'm thrilled that LJ is in shape and motivated to succeed. It very well could be 100% about the money and not the team, but that is neither here nor there. So long as he closer resembles 05-06 LJ as opposed to 07 LJ. Personally, I still think 08 LJ was pretty good, but I digress. Also, it sounds like Battle and Savage have both looked really good this offseason. I know they aren't quite as exciting, but I feel good about our depth behind LJ. Edge is definitely still out there, so is Warrick Dunn, DeShaun Foster, and Rudi Johnson. It’s tough for a veteran RB these days. At the first sign of trouble, the Chiefs can quickly go in a different direction at RB. I’m thrilled that LJ is in shape and motivated to succeed. It very well could be 100% about the money and not the team, but that is neither here nor there. So long as he closer resembles 05-06 LJ as opposed to 07 LJ. Personally, I still think 08 LJ was pretty good, but I digress.

Also, it sounds like Battle and Savage have both looked really good this offseason. I know they aren’t quite as exciting, but I feel good about our depth behind LJ.

]]> By: SG http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19625 SG Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:09:05 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19625 "...signed C Casey Wiegmann to a new two-year contract for $4.7 million." Now I'd like to see how many people think CP made a great call in cutting this guy loose? Nope - we didn't have cap room for this kind of player. One thing that brings on a certain bit of nausea, more than when our own players fail, is when we have somebody good, we cut them loose, and they do great for our rivals. I was angry when KC cut loose Rich Gannon, and I can't praise this team for cutting loose Wiegmann. If the 2nd rounder we pick up ends up having a stellar career for this team...GREAT! But accountability will also occur should the opposite take place while #88 finishes his HOF career with the Dirty Birds. “…signed C Casey Wiegmann to a new two-year contract for $4.7 million.”

Now I’d like to see how many people think CP made a great call in cutting this guy loose? Nope – we didn’t have cap room for this kind of player. One thing that brings on a certain bit of nausea, more than when our own players fail, is when we have somebody good, we cut them loose, and they do great for our rivals. I was angry when KC cut loose Rich Gannon, and I can’t praise this team for cutting loose Wiegmann. If the 2nd rounder we pick up ends up having a stellar career for this team…GREAT! But accountability will also occur should the opposite take place while #88 finishes his HOF career with the Dirty Birds.

]]> By: SG http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19624 SG Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:01:36 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19624 "But making the transition in the off-season to the Haley Way..." The Patriot Way, the Haley Way...another popular buzzword use. I think these guys should earn the use of such terms only after they put a team in the playoffs - otherwise we'll be using the term "the Forgotten Way." "If Thomas can stay healthy for 16 games, his presence alone will improve the Chiefs defense." Even if not, this defense will be better - because they can ask this guy what the coach wants and what to look for as they see things in real time. “But making the transition in the off-season to the Haley Way…”

The Patriot Way, the Haley Way…another popular buzzword use. I think these guys should earn the use of such terms only after they put a team in the playoffs – otherwise we’ll be using the term “the Forgotten Way.”

“If Thomas can stay healthy for 16 games, his presence alone will improve the Chiefs defense.”

Even if not, this defense will be better – because they can ask this guy what the coach wants and what to look for as they see things in real time.

]]> By: devildog 1976 http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19621 devildog 1976 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:45:15 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19621 Thanks for the summary Bob! I hope there is new stuff to read in the next six weeks, even if the boys went on vacation. Some how I know that we will have a TEAM built on........... The right 53, (22) In the Coach I trust Thanks for the summary Bob! I hope there is new stuff to read in the next six weeks, even if the boys went on vacation. Some how I know that we will have a TEAM built on………..

The right 53, (22)

In the Coach I trust

]]> By: Scott http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19619 Scott Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:33:03 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19619 I'm still pretty nervous about counting on LJ this year. I'd still like to see us pick up a decent veteran as insurance. (Edge is still out there...isn't he?) I’m still pretty nervous about counting on LJ this year. I’d still like to see us pick up a decent veteran as insurance. (Edge is still out there…isn’t he?)

]]> By: Rip 'em a new one http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19617 Rip 'em a new one Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:03:32 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19617 Adding to the comments of others, outstanding work Bob. Adding to the comments of others, outstanding work Bob.

]]> By: arrowhead1978 http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19616 arrowhead1978 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:47:14 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19616 I dont think that Waters has a different point of view from Vrabel as OTA's goes, he is the chiefs player's representative for the NFLPA... i believe that Waters will come in prepared, hopefully he comes in and plays like he always has, if not the chiefs could be in trouble. They do need him on the O-line this year, it will show in practice... I dont think that Waters has a different point of view from Vrabel as OTA’s goes, he is the chiefs player’s representative for the NFLPA… i believe that Waters will come in prepared, hopefully he comes in and plays like he always has, if not the chiefs could be in trouble. They do need him on the O-line this year, it will show in practice…

]]> By: The IT Guy http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19615 The IT Guy Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:30:49 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19615 Great Read Bob! Im excited about training camp, thats for sure. As far as waters goes, we no longer need him to be the leader he was, just get in shape and block DL. Hes good at that, or so I have heard. Also, it was great to see what Pioli and Haley did with that situation. We all know R.T.T is on here spouting about how much Waters stuck it to Todd and Scott, but that could not be further from the truth. Waters asked for a trade, but was not granted one, because they chose not too. Waters took it public, but no one from 1 Arrowhead drive made a peep, and waters lost in the court of public opinion as well. And, to top it off, they made him look bad coming after coming into camp out of shape. His pride is hurt, but he will be in shape and ready to play, whether he wants to or not. As for Vrabel, he is going to collect his checks and prove a point that OTA's are optional and he cant be forced to do them. I am ok with that as long as he is prepared. Go Chiefs! Great Read Bob!

Im excited about training camp, thats for sure. As far as waters goes, we no longer need him to be the leader he was, just get in shape and block DL. Hes good at that, or so I have heard. Also, it was great to see what Pioli and Haley did with that situation. We all know R.T.T is on here spouting about how much Waters stuck it to Todd and Scott, but that could not be further from the truth. Waters asked for a trade, but was not granted one, because they chose not too. Waters took it public, but no one from 1 Arrowhead drive made a peep, and waters lost in the court of public opinion as well. And, to top it off, they made him look bad coming after coming into camp out of shape. His pride is hurt, but he will be in shape and ready to play, whether he wants to or not. As for Vrabel, he is going to collect his checks and prove a point that OTA’s are optional and he cant be forced to do them. I am ok with that as long as he is prepared.

Go Chiefs!

]]> By: ILChiefsFan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19612 ILChiefsFan Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:24:16 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19612 "sometime this seadon" Or perhaps even this season. “sometime this seadon”

Or perhaps even this season.

]]> By: ILChiefsFan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-the-chiefs-got-done-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19609 ILChiefsFan Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:15:17 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9225#comment-19609 Great Cup O'Chiefs today, Bob! The success of much of the above is yet to be determined of course, but there's no doubt that the new regime has put in a lot of hard work. I think in a perfect world this team could lean heavily on L.J. while trying to get all the other pieces working, but something tells me there will be drama in the L.J. department sometime this seadon. Great Cup O’Chiefs today, Bob!

The success of much of the above is yet to be determined of course, but there’s no doubt that the new regime has put in a lot of hard work.

I think in a perfect world this team could lean heavily on L.J. while trying to get all the other pieces working, but something tells me there will be drama in the L.J. department sometime this seadon.

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