Comments on: What If They Held An NFL Game And Nobody Came? http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-if-they-held-an-nfl-game-and-nobody-came.html Dedicated to providing the best coverage of the Kansas City Chiefs. News, commentary, reports, and exclusive inside information - daily! Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:05:49 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: r1chard http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-if-they-held-an-nfl-game-and-nobody-came.html/comment-page-1#comment-31569 r1chard Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:15:24 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11483#comment-31569 i'm tired of watching this crap they call football all and all.. cry me a river when a qb gets hit.. or cry me a stream when a reciever get's hit over the middle.. this isn't the nfl i'm watching. i thought at one time this was a mans game.. but i guess not anymore.. it's the who's got the most money to change the rules to help themselves in the offseason game.. i'm tired of football. i’m tired of watching this crap they call football all and all.. cry me a river when a qb gets hit.. or cry me a stream when a reciever get’s hit over the middle.. this isn’t the nfl i’m watching. i thought at one time this was a mans game.. but i guess not anymore.. it’s the who’s got the most money to change the rules to help themselves in the offseason game.. i’m tired of football.

]]> By: Indplschiefsfan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-if-they-held-an-nfl-game-and-nobody-came.html/comment-page-1#comment-31546 Indplschiefsfan Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:50:12 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11483#comment-31546 All interesting comments. However, success breeds "football fever". As Bob mentions in his story, J-ville is college football territory -- the SEC and ACC rule down there. Why? Successful colleges, WINNING programs. I live in Indpls now and came here when the Colts were still an "also ran". This town, at the time, really didn't care one way or another about the Colts. Enter Peyton Manning and all of a sudden interest went up. Then, the Colts started winning, consistently, and suddenly you cut any fan in this city and they bleed blue, not red. And you have to remember -- this is a basketball state, not a football state like Ohio. J-ville has the same problem as any other franchise: If you don't win, if you aren't competitive, if the fans don't see a realistic chance to reach the "Big Game", then you aren't going to be successful. They see that chance down there with FSU, Florida U., Georgia, Alabama, and all of the other college football powerhouses. Move them to OKC? On paper, it looks good, but then let's think about... OU, OSU, Texas, Big 12 ... and if the J-ville franchise doesn't get competitive as an OKC franchise, well then... you guess who the fans are going to spend their hard earned money on... The solution, as always, is winning. The Jags don't. All interesting comments. However, success breeds “football fever”. As Bob mentions in his story, J-ville is college football territory — the SEC and ACC rule down there. Why? Successful colleges, WINNING programs.

I live in Indpls now and came here when the Colts were still an “also ran”. This town, at the time, really didn’t care one way or another about the Colts. Enter Peyton Manning and all of a sudden interest went up. Then, the Colts started winning, consistently, and suddenly you cut any fan in this city and they bleed blue, not red. And you have to remember — this is a basketball state, not a football state like Ohio.

J-ville has the same problem as any other franchise: If you don’t win, if you aren’t competitive, if the fans don’t see a realistic chance to reach the “Big Game”, then you aren’t going to be successful. They see that chance down there with FSU, Florida U., Georgia, Alabama, and all of the other college football powerhouses. Move them to OKC? On paper, it looks good, but then let’s think about… OU, OSU, Texas, Big 12 … and if the J-ville franchise doesn’t get competitive as an OKC franchise, well then… you guess who the fans are going to spend their hard earned money on…

The solution, as always, is winning. The Jags don’t.

]]> By: ThunderChief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-if-they-held-an-nfl-game-and-nobody-came.html/comment-page-1#comment-31541 ThunderChief Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:47:45 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11483#comment-31541 The margin for error in a smallish market is too thin for a team like the Jags to enjoy longterm success. The intense fan factor has to be double what it is in larger markets and, with a losing team, the task approaches impossibility. Truth of the matter remains that Jax shouldn't have been awarded a franchise in the first place but that's old history. Markets like Memphis, Portland OR, OKC and others of similar size to Jax would eventually suffer the same consequences. For NFL franchises, market size does matter. Ask Wayne Weaver. The margin for error in a smallish market is too thin for a team like the Jags to enjoy longterm success. The intense fan factor has to be double what it is in larger markets and, with a losing team, the task approaches impossibility.

Truth of the matter remains that Jax shouldn’t have been awarded a franchise in the first place but that’s old history. Markets like Memphis, Portland OR, OKC and others of similar size to Jax would eventually suffer the same consequences.

For NFL franchises, market size does matter. Ask Wayne Weaver.

]]> By: Steve http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-if-they-held-an-nfl-game-and-nobody-came.html/comment-page-1#comment-31540 Steve Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:53:13 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11483#comment-31540 If they move, and they will, they will go to a town starving for N.F.L. Football, like Detroit or Kansas City, they would love to have a franchise that could compete. Sorry, couldn't resist, Chiefs in an upset today. If they move, and they will, they will go to a town starving for N.F.L. Football, like Detroit or Kansas City, they would love to have a franchise that could compete. Sorry, couldn’t resist, Chiefs in an upset today.

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-if-they-held-an-nfl-game-and-nobody-came.html/comment-page-1#comment-31539 Jim Lloyd+ Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:35:55 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11483#comment-31539 This ain't no joke . There's a lot of towns down there that usted to be small and they aren't anymore ---Ark.-- S. mo --The rural folks have money and incomes above Fla. All of Okla.-- S. Kansas-- This ain’t no joke .
There’s a lot of towns down there that usted to be small and they aren’t anymore —Ark.– S. mo –The rural folks have money and incomes above Fla.
All of Okla.– S. Kansas–

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-if-they-held-an-nfl-game-and-nobody-came.html/comment-page-1#comment-31538 Jim Lloyd+ Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:19:58 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11483#comment-31538 LA is not a good place , they just never went for it ! Okla ---Yes , list the home town fans that can drive there , Dallas Houston Tenn. KC & St Louis Chicago & Minn. Indy & Saints Browns & Arziona They love football like Green bay . Two big colleges that play good . ED --- Thats a great pick , Plus they have their own J-Jones there and for a fact Boon P. is major BIG about the game . It would take over 2 - bil. If he knew he could get his own team , he would be at Lowes the next day buying a shovel . LA is not a good place , they just never went for it !
Okla —Yes , list the home town fans that can drive there , Dallas
Houston
Tenn.
KC & St Louis
Chicago & Minn.
Indy & Saints
Browns & Arziona
They love football like Green bay .
Two big colleges that play good .
ED — Thats a great pick , Plus they have their own J-Jones there and for a fact Boon P. is major BIG about the game .
It would take over 2 – bil.
If he knew he could get his own team , he would be at Lowes the next day buying a shovel .

]]> By: ED http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-if-they-held-an-nfl-game-and-nobody-came.html/comment-page-1#comment-31536 ED Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:20:02 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11483#comment-31536 Agreed Randy. I'm looking to get out of dodge if I'm the Jags owner. I don't know about LA because they lose interest in football fast. They've to franchises and both are gone now. Why not Oklahoma City they love football and you put a good team there I definately think they would support the team. They already have a basketball team that they support and the Thunder aren't that good but they get good attendance. I'd imagine they'd go crazy over having a pro football team. Agreed Randy. I’m looking to get out of dodge if I’m the Jags owner. I don’t know about LA because they lose interest in football fast. They’ve to franchises and both are gone now. Why not Oklahoma City they love football and you put a good team there I definately think they would support the team. They already have a basketball team that they support and the Thunder aren’t that good but they get good attendance. I’d imagine they’d go crazy over having a pro football team.

]]> By: Randy http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/what-if-they-held-an-nfl-game-and-nobody-came.html/comment-page-1#comment-31534 Randy Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:05:42 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11483#comment-31534 I happened to catch part of a UFL game last week, or the week before. It was at Giant's stadium, and the place was completely empty. I may have seen 3 dozen fans in the seats. After watching 5 minutes of UFL football, I knew why. If I'm the owner of the Jags, I'm looking for a new town before it comes to that. LA maybe? I happened to catch part of a UFL game last week, or the week before. It was at Giant’s stadium, and the place was completely empty. I may have seen 3 dozen fans in the seats. After watching 5 minutes of UFL football, I knew why.

If I’m the owner of the Jags, I’m looking for a new town before it comes to that. LA maybe?

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