Comments on: Wednesday Morning Cup O’Chiefs

By: dieta kopenhadzka

dieta kopenhadzka — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 21:30:46 +0000

I’m sure that i will come back to your blog soon. Keep us posting

By: bigdaddyt

bigdaddyt — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:48:22 +0000

OK Colby since you don’t want Cower then who?

By: Josh

Josh — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:05:16 +0000

The difference between Oakland and other places where coaching changes have been made (and the same would hold true here) is that Al Davis meddles in everything and basically ties the hands of his coach, making him inept. There are stories about him calling down from his suite to the sideline during a game to make a play call on 4th and inches with the game on the line. It’s hard to “just win, baby” when you’re not allowed to call your own game.
Modell, Hunt and Bud Adams are examples of coaches that let their coaches coach. If you have the right guy at the helm, it’s a lot easier for them to find success than it would be for the same guy to find it in Oakland-just ask Lane Kiffin.

By: Devildog1976

Devildog1976 — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:32:59 +0000

you would think so ??????????

By: arrowhead1978

arrowhead1978 — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:37:20 +0000

Well if making coaching changes is a great thing shouldn’t Oakland be winning the division every year??

By: Devildog1976

Devildog1976 — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 19:00:59 +0000

Rin ten ten… step away from the skunky coach and get on board the crazy train. Colby is right new and fresh, year,president,GM,and coaching staff. Change is good, new eyes,new energy, new winning attitude. One game at a time and all of that. We need a leader, not Herm who watches the replay and hopes for different results. We need a coach who will say ” yes we can” and “yes we will”. I write to you having never worn booties, or shown fear. From one dog to another get with the program.

By: colby

colby — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:26:29 +0000

The thought that there aren’t many good coaches out there to replace Herm is so ignorant that it’s sad. Most of us had no idea who Mike Smith was before he turned Atlanta around instantly. John Harbaugh certainly wasn’t a big name hire either in Baltimore and now he’s won two playoff games and could conceivably go to the Super Bowl. Just because Shanahan, McDaniels, and (ugh) Cowher are the only names you know doesn’t mean they’re the only good coaches out there.

We need to go in a new direction because we know what we have in the status quo: a coach who has won 4 or fewer games three times in nine years and who has NEVER done better than 10-6. This is the guy who is going to lead us to the Super Bowl? Please. Bring on more fresh faces with new ideas like they did with Pioli.

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:17:54 +0000

Oh Mein Gott- Rin’s started a veritable avalanche of support for Herm! Only…thing is – that being the case – now Herm probably won’t be retained if consensus becomes rampant.

If it isn’t one thing, it’s another…

By: bigdaddyt

bigdaddyt — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:10:53 +0000

I agree with Rin Tin Tins original thought of Herm completing his last year of his contract.
1. Outside of Shannahan there are not of coaches out there
2. He is gonna get paid for it anyways.
3. Clark can save face as far as Herm can’t bash him saying he didn’t give him a chance as far as rebuilding
4. They can hold a contract extension over Herm’s head next year. Amazing how people perform when their job is on the line.
5. This is my personal favorite. Bill Cower will be available in 2010

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:25:56 +0000

Cheese

Here’s hoping you are “very much” rewarded, as such…

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:24:38 +0000

Ooh, scary!

The “fans will revolt!” Jody said with hopeth in his heart…alas, no real basis to reconcile his dream with reality.

Somewhere tonight, Carl Peterson is chuckling over that one.

heh heh heh

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:20:49 +0000

ATTENTION STAFF: CUSTOMER IN AISLE ‘COLBY’ NEEDS ASSISTANCE WITH LAXATIVES – STAT!!! HE JUST DONE MESSED HIMSELF…AGAIN.

heh heh heh

By: Jody

Jody — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 05:09:59 +0000

“Edwards deserves to keep his job” was the biggest laugh I’ve had all day. He is a lousy coach, period. He gotta go the stink of wretched losing is about him. Pioli will lose half his good will if he doesn’t get rid of Edwards. Oh and if Edwards returned the fans will revolt the likes never before seen.

By: colby

colby — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:46:35 +0000

I’m not afraid to make a prediction. I’ve made it in the other blogs but I’ll do it here too you arrogant old fop. Pioli will have a long talk with Herm on Thursday, and then, once he realizes just how delusional and idiotic Herm really is (seeing is believing) he’ll send him on his way. Will the ax drop on Friday? Perhaps, or maybe Pioli takes the weekend to decide. All in all, Herm is as good as gone. There’s tickets to be sold and a new era to usher in.

Pioli was a fantastic hire one way or the other, but “if” he decides to retain Herm for another year I’ll be GREATLY surprised and very much disappointed.

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:03:07 +0000

Becomes clear now…the Herm Hater faction, all of them (no not that one, the other guy) are so scared Scott will ‘keep’ Herm Edwards they are quaking in their little boot(ie)s…yup, that’s the ticket!

heh heh heh

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:54:41 +0000

The fear in responding to my request for opinions regards our man Scottie likely lies in the yellow streak down the backsides of those this blog- aka lions who roar only but when they are not in any danger of being ridiculed for being wrong aft the fact.

If Pioli keeps Herm tomorrow and a blogger was impressed by Scottie Pioli today, well… that will never do if a blogger was asking Pioli to bring them the head of Alfredo Herm Garcia.

On the other, if you were not impressed by Pioli today and then tomorrow or thereaft Herm exits via his own device or Scotti’s, you” want to change your vote to “that Pioli, I like him.”

Anyone with a pair speak up now, or forever hold your…miniscule duo.

Rin has…I am the dog that will hunt – “there’s no need to fear…Rin Tin Tin is here!”

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:37:33 +0000

tm1946

Another possibilty is that Herm himself may in fact decide “I don’t want to be here as a lame duck Head Coach”, so he may well choose to re-sign of his own accord as Rin has stated afore.

There are as many reasons as opinions to do this, that or some other move or standing pat. Only in the hindsight aft the fact will we see whether or not it was a prudent move.

I haven’t heard anyone’s thoughts – other than mine which I always truly enjoy – as to impressions KC fandom regards Pioli.

What do any of you loud-mouthed know it alls think about Scott? Rin was impressed, quite a nice change from Carl in that I didn’t sense Scottie was some card shark, rather a play it close to the vest gentlemen…refreshing.

Feedback/thots on Scottie? Anyone?

By: Aaron

Aaron — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:23:52 +0000

So long as we get ride of Dick Curl, Gunther, Krumrie, and take away Herm Edwards clock management and red flag privileges than I’m all for keeping Herm. This D is a mess though right now. I’m wondering if David Gibbs wouldn’t make a bad DC for us? He seems like the only defensive coach worth retaining.

By: Al C.

Al C. — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:23:40 +0000

Last season is over. The Patriots didn’t make the playoffs, the Chiefs didn’t make the playoffs. San Diego is eliminated, the Giants are eliminated, every team not playing in Pennsylvania, Maryland or Arizona is eliminated. Everyone is going to start out 0-0 next September. Love the Pioli hiring. Getting the top GM prospect is a lot like a college team having a good recruiting class. That’s what you need to win. I could see Herm and Chan Gailey given another year, with Gunther and all the D coaches looking for new jobs. We’ll find out by Friday.

By: tm1946

tm1946 — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:12:01 +0000

What if herm is no better in 09 and in 08? Is a good drafting enough to keep herm? Then there are the coaches, who goes or stays? Do any of you really want Gunther or Krumrie to stay on the team? More than a few want Dick Curl gone, do not know why. All these question will be amswered in 09, but why? Just clean house and start the rebuild. There is no reason to wait until 2010 with a new coach. That is what happened to herm his first year by up it off one more year.

By: Blazer383

Blazer383 — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:02:53 +0000

Nah, don’t need it. I’m really pretty neutral on the situation, and like I said—I trust Pioli’s judgement. If he decides that Herm’s The Man, I’m ok with that. I do think that if he stays, major changes need to be made with the rest of the coaching staff. I don’t think we should lay everything off on Herm, especially given the numerous misfortunes the team suffered all throughout the year.

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:53:39 +0000

Wanna borrow a piece of my body armor Blaze?

By: Blazer383

Blazer383 — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:49:52 +0000

I just finished watching the press conference, and I agree with Rin that the tone of the remarks by Pioli seem to be in favor of retaining Herm. Either way it goes, I trust Pioli’s judgement a heck of a lot more than the think-they-know-it-alls that post on all the Chiefs forums. I think that Herm’s deficiencies can be addressed with other changes to the coaching staff, and I think the the positives he brings would be hard to replace. As Pioli mentioned to the press, the thing most noticeable about Herm’s team this year was how hard they played. In trying to build a “team first” atmosphere where everybody is working together and working hard, you’d be hard pressed to find a better coach to shape that sort of team than Herm Edwards. That’s not my opinion, that’s the opinion of many in the NFL who are much more qualified to see that than any of us are. That may not be enough to save his job, but I guess time will tell. It’s a new year, with new management, many changes on the horizon; and I’m very much looking forward to next season, regardless of who the head coach is.

By: True Red & Gold

True Red & Gold — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:43:00 +0000

I have no doubt that like Bill Belichick, Scott Pioli has a great deal of respect for Herman Edwards both as a man and a coach.

Pioli will base his decision on an entirely different perspective than the average pinhead fan.

I wouldn’t bet the farm just yet that Herm is gone. I think that Scott and Herm could work together.

It seems funny that many on this site have criticized some of us for misguided optimism and those same people would celebrate the hiring of someone that has no head coaching experience or that is unproven as a coach in the NFL.

Bob, keep up the good work and stay right where you are. Your competition and objects of your criticism obviously are posting on your site. That is probably a good thing and my guess brings a grin to your face.

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:36:58 +0000

“Scottie has “only just begun” was the excised portion… &!*$#?* blog gremlins.

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:35:21 +0000

Oh, and for the record: Carl Peterson was hired by the Chiefs on Decemnber 19, 1988… Peterson hired Marty Schottenheimer on January 24, 1989, a period of 36 days or more than 5 weeks after.

Today is Pioli’s first day… whether you want Herm or not, Scottie has – to borrow from ‘The Carpenter’s – which is why Scottie said today that there will be no rush.

Peace.

By: dvusvp

dvusvp — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:27:28 +0000

if he stays its only cause its the last year of his contract..and …cowher will be coach next season anyway…thats the plan

By: RedandGoldRice

RedandGoldRice — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:25:03 +0000

I agree, devilD. BIG WIDE blinders. 2 – 14 speaks for itself, rebuilding or not. Thats just not aceptable.

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:01:14 +0000

Nor financial ‘sense’ nor ‘cents’ for that matter…heh heh heh

BTW…tune into 610 kcsp radio Kansas City for a much more professional and unbiased take than the a** clowns on 810.

By: Devildog1976

Devildog1976 — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:00:35 +0000

Rin ten ten….. I am so sorry it is not ten margaritas, or bad weed , you’re wearing blinders. It is now 6:56pm and Herm should be cleaning out his desk.

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:57:46 +0000

Here’s another thought: what is the possibility that Herm completes his 2009 as KC Head Coach, and ‘then’, his contract complete, Pioli either signs him to a new contract OR failing that hires some new flashy flavor of the moment not just because he has the opening/opportunity BUT because the bang for buck$ will be multiplied in fan intere$t by way the newly refurbished Arrowhead Stadium?

Herm, Clark Hunt & Scottie are not dense…if they are thus sharp they will look to take advantage of aby/all opportunities to fan the flames fan excitement. So, new Head Coach 2010 and maybe a new young QB or other enticements etc. creates a buzz & excitement not seen around these parts in many a year?

Too, if the Chiefs need help from tax breaks for the stadium and training camp areas, why would Hunt pay Edwards AND Carl Peterson while still having to pay another GM in Pioli AND another Head Coach Mr. X – all four – during the 2009 season? To do so would make no financial success, and that ‘is’ a consideration, my opine.

Just consider rationally the merits said argument.

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:47:57 +0000

Quotes from Scott Pioli:

“Herm has a great deal of passion”…AND…”I believe in passion.”

TRANSLATION: Pioli believes in Herm as KC Chiefs Head Coach in 2009!

heh heh heh

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:46:31 +0000

Who was that (un)masked man who praised Herm today and said he has talked to Herm – AND – will talk some more?

I believe that is the man who will have the honor nee pleasure of serving Herm Edwards as His new GM & bestest buddy…Scottie Pioli.

If Rin’s lyin’ Rin’s dyin’.

heh heh heh

By: aPauled

aPauled — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:41:53 +0000

Agree ILChiefsFan. In Jan ’08, Clark said this team should be competing for a playoff spot in ’08. Anything like the 4-12 season would be unacceptable.

Well Herm blew it going 2-14. He knows it. Chiefs fans know it. NFL fans know it. Rin “any opinion different than mine is not applicable and must be attacked” denies it.

By: jim lloyd

jim lloyd — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:39:32 +0000

CLARK is making a payroll every month , and has a chance to do something , I say DO IT _ DO IT _DO IT !!
He needs a winner and to fill that staduim . Its going to cost him about the same to go this way ,with a new Leader ….. Its not going to be the same !!!!!

By: tm1946

tm1946 — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:36:20 +0000

Rufus Dawes, is he still around? I wondering if he left with Carl?

Pioli will do just fine with me. I doubt if we have to wait 20 years to see if he can do the job.

herm, if he stays it will be interesting how the chiefs handle the PR. If he goes, happy days are here again (who will be the next head coach and who will be the staff??).

By: ILChiefsFan

ILChiefsFan — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:30:39 +0000

I don’t buy the argument, advanced by Bob and others, that Clark Hunt would be double-crossing Herm by letting him go, because he agreed to the rebuilding.

Does anybody really know what expectations Carl and/or Herm set with ownership before the season started? Judging by his pre-season statements Clark expected a lot more from team than they showed this season.

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:06:23 +0000

Scott, hate me love me, I don’t lie…it was as I said. Doesn’t mean Herm will stay, just that some folks like the radio hack/others just cannot get past the personal attacks on a Herm, a Rin…etc. Any opinion different than theirs – their take – is ‘not’ applicable.

By: Scott

Scott — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:02:47 +0000

If your observations are correct, Rin…then that’s bad news for the Chiefs, in my opinion.

If Herm goes…then I say KC is really serious about turning things around for the upcoming season.

If Herm stays…then I’d say be prepared for more of the same. Another lost year “rebuilding”.

Maybe Pioli will keep Herm as the DB Coach. Now that’s a job he could most likely handle.

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:01:56 +0000

heh heh heh, her’s a hilarious take courtesy the radio hack kietzman. Scott Pioli made not ‘one’ comment that directly or indirectly suggested or inferred that Herm Edwards was on shakey ground, yet, kietzman comes on after & says “Herm Edwards is on shakey ground.”

What deception, what out & out disinformation.

I can hear kietzman/whb et al backsides puckering as they speak because they know Scotyt Pioli said nothing today to indicate any disatisfaction with Herm; rather, anything Pioli said as Rin reported faithfully (and damn near quote for quote) was in the positive.

Only time will tell which way goeth Herm, but the fact remains people hear what they ‘want’ to hear & not necessarily what was said. Or in the case a radio hack as above, they try to ‘make’ something out of pure nothing. Not even smoke, yet they try & suggest a fire is imminent.

Herm Edwards is STILL The Man! Time check: 6:01 p.m. CST, January 14, 2009!

C’mon now & weep for yourselves you Herm Haters – lemme hear it!

heh heh heh

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:36:03 +0000

Watching the press conference as we speak on NFL Network: a ‘very’ good chance Herm returns! Pioli says the process will be methodical and no quick moves regards anything, coaching, the scouting & talent department etc. In fact, Pioli says he has known Herm ‘personally’ a long time and respects him and his passion and how hard his teams always play.

Pioli is not flashy, but he is a definite change from Carl Peterson in demeanor. I Rin like him – from what I have seen thus far. More so as I said whether Herm stays or goes will be as Clark Hunt AGAIN stated today, “a ‘mutual’ decision” between Clark & Scott, NOT Scott’s alone!

So don’t expect any coaching decision any time soon, Scott says there is ‘no’ rush. My take? Herm’s chances of returning – just based on my listening to Scott Pioli – have just DOUBLED!

YEEEE-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAW!

YUP! heh heh heh

By: Jay

Jay — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:14:56 +0000

UnCuffed,

I agree with your thought on Rin who knows if he is even a Chiefs fan all he does is come on here and talk in the third person like a moron. Herm will be gone and this Rin character will either dissapear or find something else to talk about in the third person.

Jay says Rin Tin Tin has major man crush for Herm

By: aPauled

aPauled — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:14:30 +0000

“How many GMs have you/the KC faithful run off? Not even 1 in the last 20 years”

Let’s test your memory Rin, Carl Peterson back in ’08. Peterson left with 1 year on his contract when Arrowhead was half empty during games and fans were voicing their displeasure with the Chiefs performance. I’m sure Clark didn’t notice the dent in the pocket book and just asked Carl to take a year off.

der der der

By: findthedr

findthedr — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:06:21 +0000

I’ve advocated since early in the season for the chiefs to, “clean house, Firem them all!”

It seems that is coming to fruition, and it is time to see new faces in the media employed at kcchiefs.com also.

keeping Herm is just postponing the inevitable. Lets start a real rebuild, with a real front office and real coaches.

By: Uncuffed

Uncuffed — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:00:16 +0000

Do any of you know somewhere to watch the press conference online live?

By: Uncuffed

Uncuffed — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:58:26 +0000

In case you haven’t picked up on it yet, Rin just likes to antagonize people. I’d be willing to bet he doesn’t have a strong feeling either way for Herm, but just chooses the side that is best to antagonize people from.

By: Mark

Mark — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:57:45 +0000

Rick, you speak for the vast majority of Chief fans, and I suspect season ticket holders. Hopefully Scott Pioli and Clark hear your message loud and clear, and we can have a true celebration of a totally new regime very soon.

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:52:21 +0000

Herm stays or goes – his call, no one elses (sorry Scottie/Chiefs fans.)

heh heh heh

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:51:22 +0000

What difference does aPauled think any of ‘that’ makes? How many GMs have you/the KC faithful run off? Not even 1 in the last 20 years – guess the Chiefs aren’t listening, huh, even to the ticket buying ‘real’ fans out there.

heh heh heh

By: byebyehermie

byebyehermie — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:49:34 +0000

Herm Edwards was right his record speaks for itself 15-33 as Chiefs head coach. Herm is gone. Gretz please disappear along with your good buddy Rufus Dawes.

By: aPauled

aPauled — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:44:09 +0000

“Yup, like the Chiefs fan base can do anything but exercise their tear ducts”

Who does the Rin think buys tickets, jerseys, etc and thus creates revenue for the Chiefs? We speak with our entertainment dollars, our tax dollars and our words. Not the sharpest tool in the shed there Rin.

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:36:17 +0000

Steadman ruled from 1975 to 1989…Carl from 1989 to 2009. Better hope that you like Pioli, because whether Lamar or the apple that didn’t fall far from the tree Clark be presiding, KC Chiefs GMs serve 17 years on average & their football teams follow suit by being ‘average’ or below. So you will come to love or loathe Scottie, just as all came to do one or the other regards Carl.

Yup, there’s a whole lot to look forward too, obviously. Rin is stoked…

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:29:59 +0000

Yup, like the Chiefs fan base can do anything but exercise their tear ducts…only took 20 years to see Carl leave – and by his own hand/resignation.

heh heh heh

By: aPauled

aPauled — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:56:41 +0000

“Whether Herm stays or goes is inconsequential”

Herm staying or going is very consequential. The Chiefs fan base is not going to stand for another 2-4 win season where Herm can’t get the team prepared (Atlanta, Carolina, Tennesee, Cincinnatti games) or close the deal (Tampa Bay, New York). It’s time to start fresh. I’m optimistic that Pioli and a new Coach are going to get us competing in 2009. Not Herm’s 2010 goal.

By: aPauled

aPauled — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:47:05 +0000

>>”Whether Herm stays or goes is inconsequential…”<>”Pioli was a selfish, self righteous jerk”<<

Yeah, but now he’s our selfish, self righteous jerk.

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:29:19 +0000

Exactly Eli, and if Herm fails in 2009 he goes… Rin will help him out the door. Maybe tho, just maybe Herm has needed a true ‘pro’ to help him… enter Pioli, aft exit Carl.

And ‘if’ Herm succeeds as such well then, a new contract extension (probably 3-5 years) will be HE’s reward!

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:26:07 +0000

BinSC

What was fair for Herm is fair for Scottie…heh heh heh

By: Eli

Eli — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:22:17 +0000

Whether Herm stays or goes is inconsequential compared to the need for an entirely new coaching staff, most notably Gunther Cunningham. I’ve been amazed by the lack of patience by Chiefs fans this season after we all KNEW it was going to be tough. If Scott Pioli thinks Herm has done a good job with his task at hand, who am I to argue with him?

We need to take a breath and step back. Last week there were literally hundreds of posts all over Chiefs message boards about how Pioli was a selfish, self righteous jerk because he was ‘stringing us all along for his ego’s sake’. Now that he’s been named the GM, shouldn’t we at least respect his first major decision and support it? We asked for this guy, let’s listen to what he has to say.

If he decides to keep Herm and Chan I have no problem with it. Let Herm work out the last year of his contract, and let’s see what he can do with his young team (which will add 35 million dollars in free agents this off-season). I am optimistic.

By: B in SC

B in SC — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:20:00 +0000

Interesting that many Herm supporters have always lamented that his first two year here were wasted because he didn’t get to rebuild right away and he had to deal with what Carl was giving him. Not an unfair assessment at all.

The rub is that now those same folks think Pioli should be handcuffed the same way???? Interesting perspective.

Personally, I don’t think Herm is a good head coach. Great person, teacher, mentor and position coach, but not a game day coach. Losses aside, I just haven’t seen steady improvement in the team over the season. Same problems over and over. However, if Pioli retains him for his final year, it wouldn’t be the end of the world. We most likely won’t be very competitive next year anyway. I’m not sure where some of you get the “2009 division champ” thing. Based on what exactly? Our 2 wins?

By: Scott

Scott — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:11:28 +0000

Herm has brainwashed so many people into believing that losing is acceptable. 4 – 12…2 – 14? Good thing we’ve had such a great coaching staff or we’d REALLY suck, huh?

So if we win four games next year…that will be an improvement. Herm can keep up the “we’re on the right track / we’re improving” mantra.

Hopefully Pioli (and whatever his decisions are) can take KC from being a joke, back to respectability. Soon.

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:06:30 +0000

Hey – now Chris Mortensen too is reporting Herm could stay! As Josh McDaniels is gone and Kirk Ferentz wants to stay at Iowa, Scott Pioli’s favored ‘overhypes’ are already gone.

Yup.

Opening game 2009: Chiefs PA Announcer –

“Now, the Head Coach of the Kansas City Chiefs, Herrrrrm Eddddddddwards!.”

heh heh heh

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:44:01 +0000

LeoICT

Josh also can’t afford a watch…

By: NFL fan

NFL fan — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:32:07 +0000

I think that Pioli has a different approach when it comes to the direction of the Chiefs . I think that he likes the fact that K.C. has some young talent and Herm did had a great draft class in 08 but what really doomed Herm was the fact he gutted way too much . No free agents last year and picking up second team players in DeMarrio Williams and Devard Darling and then agreeing with Gunther and Carl in bringing back an old injury prone Donnie Edwards If only he had brought in some veteran leadership not a lot of veterans but a few in key positions . But he did not and let the record show 2-14 and then put all his emphasis on Brodie Croyle a wasted third round draft choice and not trying for the coin toss last year for a higher rank in the draft .Bad play on defense and special teams and then put in a quarterback that cannot run a pro style offense in Thigpen that your offensive coordinator had to change into college spread that he ran in college . Yes one positive in drafting and too many negatives during the season. I think 7-9 or 8-8 or even 6-10 would have saved him .But to me Herm is doomed. Nuff said!!!!!!!!!

By: Josh

Josh — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:30:38 +0000

Leo, if I worried about what everyone thought of me, I’d be on here every five minutes posting “Herm’s the man!” like Rin.

By: Double A

Double A — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:26:08 +0000

Rick – You speak for thousands.

If Pioli and Clark Hunt decide to keep Herm, they both should be sentenced to watch the home game v. San Diego immediately before the presser.

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:25:16 +0000

Conversation between Herm & Scottie will revolve around will he be willing to make changes to his coaching staff, yes or no, philosophy, etc. etc.

Herm will either say yes or no…and as such Herm Edwards will decide whether he stays or goes, not Pioli.

Herm decides, Rin reports…you all deal with it.

heh heh heh

The only person beside Herm who ‘could’ decide otherwise would be a Clark Hunt – and Clark is already on record as saying he wants Herm back.

Herm stays or Herm goes, HE stays true to Himself and does it His way. I respect that/Herm so much. (cue Frankie Albert Sinatra: “Herm did it HISSSS
WAAAAAAAAAAAAY!”

Either way, Rin wins!

heh heh heh

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:20:11 +0000

LeoICT…you sir, are golden! Josh on the other, and several other are…well, ‘challenged’ shall we say.

By: Rick

Rick — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:13:40 +0000

I have been a season ticket holder for 21 years. Arrowhead use to be the best place to go to watch a game. If youseason ticket hodlers remember before the game the cheerleaders would hold up on one side of the field the words GO and the other side would chant CHIEFS. The stadium rocked before the game even started.We had two to four prime time games a year. It was a fun experience. Even Vermeil teams would compete and keep games close winning alot more home games than not. Enter Edwards and everything that was fun in the previous 18 years starts going downhill. The stadium holds no magic anymore. No touchdown corner. No baby what a play from kevin harlands mouth. The atmosphere at a game sucks now. What use to be the toughest and loudest stadium in the NFL is now a embarassment to the NFL. We have a new general manager we now need a new coach to revive what is left of the season ticket holder fan base. I live 4 1/2 hours west of arrowhead and use to make the trip faithfully every home game. Last year 1 GAME. The game against Oakland was so bad and the atmosphere was so bad already I didn’t waste my gas or money to watch another game at Arrowhead. I will not pay or watch another game at arrowhead with herm as coach. I have seen enough to think that herm is not the man and will never be the man for KC.

By: LeoICT

LeoICT — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:11:58 +0000

Josh, you are an imature blathering fool. A total moron, a low life scab of a person. How do you like being belittled. You have no trouble doing that to Herm, and others.

By: Uncuffed

Uncuffed — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:11:27 +0000

I hope Clark is just being PC and actually does realize the difference between:

(a) ability to make a team younger (not necessarily better) and start youngsters regardless if they’ve earned it

and

(b) Actual head coaching ability.

If he can’t even make that simple distinction, I hope he stays as far away from football operation as possible or one of the other Hunt’s starts a coup.

By: nofairweatherfanhere

nofairweatherfanhere — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:11:24 +0000

This goes out to Rin Tin Tin-so Clark told you Herm was the man? Are you planning on re-tracting your statment “THAT HERM IS THE MAN”?

“Pioli -He will have complete charge of football operations,” Ryan Petkoff, a spokesman for Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt, told The Associated Press. “He will report only to Clark.”

In addition, the Chiefs are about $32 million under the salary cap, extra money that will come in handy because KC owns the overall No. 3 pick in the draft. Besides that, there are a number of promising young players who Edwards was counting on as the foundation of his rebuilding project.

“We are very excited to welcome Scott to the Chiefs,” Hunt said in a statement. “With his proven track record of success, Scott is the finest player personnel executive in the NFL, and we look forward to his leadership in building a championship organization.”

Yet, when he announced the resignation on Dec. 15 of president, CEO and general manager Peterson, Hunt said he thought Edwards was the best man for the Chiefs program going forward. But he also said the new general manager would have “significant input” into the final decision.

The Chiefs ended 2007 on a nine-game losing streak. Then Hunt agreed it was time to tear it down and rebuild.
Now Pioli takes charge of those efforts.

By: Double A

Double A — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:56:32 +0000

Wonder if Herm will be able to convince Pioli to “get use to” 2 wins per season?

Herm can inform Pioli this means the team is “85%” there.

If Pioli objects, hopefully, Herm will have the fortitude to tell him “Get over it!”

By: biggie

biggie — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:51:17 +0000

After 8 seasons in the NFL as a head coach, and not even a 40% win record? I like Herm the man, but maybe he doesn’t need to be a head coach anymore.

By: Herm Edwards

Herm Edwards — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:50:05 +0000

“GET OVER IT!” roflmao

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:49:22 +0000

Herm stays!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!