Not sure what they’re thinking this season, but after the draft, it’ll all be a whole lot clearer.

Better get out the smelling salts:
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/23/report-gonzalez-traded-to-falcons/

(of course it’s PFT, so take it for what it’s worth)

What’s his value to the actual fans here? Who’d have a real-life foul reaction to seeing the face of the team for 10 years wearing another team’s jersey? Who’d still pay full price for a ticket to Pioli in whom we all should give our full trust when we get to still see LJ wearing red and gold, but Gonzalez is not scoring touchdowns for us anymore and doing his slam dunk/layup over the goal post?

Scott Pioli, I hope you’re considering feedback from the fans on these questions – as they pay your salary big guy.

Don’t trade Tony if a 2nd rounder is not involved. Although, I’d probably take a 3rd and a 5th/6th if that was an option. Perhaps even a 3rd this year and a 3rd in 2010. My feelings are that we are a much better team with Tony that without him. Ryan is a nice blocking TE, but the jury is still out on how prepared Cottam is to be a starter.

Pittsburgh is in the mix in the Roscoe Parrish sweepstakes which adds validity to his value in my eyes. I’d like to see KC swap Brian Waters for Parrish. We’d get a Pro Bowl caliber return man (FINALLY) and a decent backup WR to boot.

Finally, if a trade is to be made, I think swapping picks with Seattle (moving down to pick 4) would be in our best interest. Not sure what we’d get for that. A 3rd might be a little too much to ask. I’d pull the trigger on that swap for a 4th rounder this year and a 4th in 2010. Seattle would just be taking Sanchez anyway and we’d still be picking from the same pool at 4 than we would at 3: Monroe/J. Smith, Crabtree, Curry. The only difference would be we’d have to pay them slightly less and we’d get a couple extra 4ths out of the deal. I can see Seattle parting with those picks to ensure they get the QB they want (if they want him that is).

I think Pioli would like to get a pick or two somehow for the 2010 draft. By then he’ll have replaced our scouting department with his own guys and he’d enter that draft with some extra ammo.

Now that he may be unnatainable it’s like the forbidden fruit.

I don’t care that he doesn’t rush the passer, how hard can it be to learn?

And yes your right it is common practice in the NFL to unload your veteran players at the end of their careers for successful teams. It’s also common practice for unsuccessful teams to pick up these aging veterans at the end of their careers.

We get rid of Tony G, pick up Zack Thomas, Mike Vrabel

Tony has been a great player & is still very productive. The problem is a TE is a complimentary weapon for a high power offense, not the focal point.

I believe we’re better off building the trenches with younger, quality prospects.

Yeah we know you’re not a Pioli fan. You mention it in most of your posts. Get over Herm already will you?? He’s gone, not coming back. His dismissal was for the best.

Secondly, we don’t need to spend a 2nd rounder on a TE to replace Tony G. We drafted a potential replacement last year in Cottam….remember?

Trading Tony G. is probably for the best anyway. We get a 2nd or 3rd rounder in return and Haley isn’t forced into changing his offensive scheme (which is not TE focused) to keep Tony happy if he was to remain a Chief.

Hopefully KC can get a 2 for Gonzales– he can play til he’s 35 or 36. If Atlanta goes defense with their 1, I will be expecting them to deal their 2nd rounder for Tony. (Hopefully I will not be let down.)

I read that Buffalo is interested in Waters, which makes a whole lot of sense in light of them losing Peters at LT. The Bills can pick up a Pro Bowl LG to improve their line for a 3 or so – makes perfect sense.

If they can make the trade, then trading back for far less isnt as….it doesnt HAVE to happen.

If they think curry can pass rush(which I do), then they better take him at 3 if they can get 2 picks for tony g….and honestly also move Waters for a 3 and a 6…if we got a 2/5 and 3/6 for those 2 players, then we stack at 1/2/3/3/4/5/5/6/6/7….thats amazing…for giving up a TE who will retire at the end of the year and a guard who is unhappy and 32 years old.

Tony Gonzales doesn’t want to be a Chief. IF the Chiefs get a 1st or 2nd round pick – they shouldn’t blink– trade him. Atlanta should offer their 2nd round pick. Can you imagine Matt Ryan with Turner, White and Gonzales as weapons!!

Trading Waters seems like a foregone conclusion. I expect Gonzales and Waters to be traded this Saturday. Pioli, I’m sure, has already identified a LG to replace Waters. (and a TE to replace Gonzales.

If Tony stays with the Chiefs this will probably be his last season. How does keeping him for one more season enhance the future of this team? It’s short-term thinking; Pioli and Haley have said they want to build for the long term.

In the short term, Tony is worth more than a 2nd-rounder; but if the Chiefs can get a 2nd-rounder and move Tony to a contending team in the process then it strengthens the Chiefs in the long term and honors Tony’s wishes.

They can pick up a TE in the second round and hope he becomes as good as Gonzo, I also think that Alberts is going to be one of the best LT’s in the NFL, if they keep him there. There are no gaurantees that Monroe would be half as good as Alberts at LT in the NFL. They might end up having to put him in the RT position.

Listen, Pioli inherited a team with a lot of holes to fill. But, if he trades Tony…he will be CREATING a hole. Not a good idea, if you ask me. And yes, I know you didn’t.

Of course we’ll need to replace him in the next couple of years. Why rush it? He’s under contract…and he’ll give it his all on the field, no matter what. He’s an awesome player…no one can argue that. So, keep him. Don’t create another void that needs filled.

If Tony is going elsewhere, the deal must get a 2nd rounder. Waters must be worth something better than a 4th and LJ is worthless.

Some have made a big deal about him missing the mini-camp last weekend. Tony NEVER shows up for those things. I see nothing to “read into” him not being there. It was just business as usual for Tony. He’ll show up ready to work when it’s time…and play his ass off when he does, like always.

It’s comforting to know that the Chiefs have a GM with a proven track record on the art of the deal which the team hasn’t had under CP for the past 20 years.

It also makes zero sense to move Albert to Guard or RT and waste the 1st round pick we spent on him as a LT in last year’s draft. You don’t draft RT’s or Guards in the 1st round.