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		<title>By: Rin Tin Tin</title>
		<link>http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/the-man-the-myths.html#comment-10463</link>
		<dc:creator>Rin Tin Tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Herm&#039;s The Man - Chiefs Head Coach 2009! 


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		<title>By: dvusvp</title>
		<link>http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/the-man-the-myths.html#comment-10410</link>
		<dc:creator>dvusvp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay...lets see..as i look @ the chiefs..ordeal...this is what i would do ...i am not gonna be cheap..and it for the long hall..and i am making my judgment from what i have seen from this year..

staff....all GONE ..ALL..
NEEDS ...QB..A REAL STARTER..THIGGY..NOT READY YET..CASSELL..WINS..
RB LJ UR GONE..3RD 7TH RD DRAFT PICK
HERE&#039;S SURTAIN THE EGG DROP..TE..GONZO..DJ/..TRADE HOPEFULLY RAVENS..RAY LEW..AND 4RD PICK..I&#039;LL TELL WHY LATER.AND I AM SPENDING MONEY FOR J..PEPPERS..WHAT EVER IT TAKES
if you think we played with rookies last year..this will be a another rebulid...but this is what will be differ..

I NEED MY DEFENSE TO BE ON SIGHT KILLERS...WHEN THAT UNIFORM GO ON BE LIKE THE MOST HATED COP..ON EARTH..I HAVE A JOB TO DO....HOW..THATS RAY LEW..AND PEPPERS...WE HAVE DEFENSE SWAGGER...AND A DAM LEADER..THE BEST IN THE GAME..PUT DORSEY WHERE HE BELONGS..AND CAN DO DAMAGE..THEM PICKS..1 PICK CURRY
NOW LOOK...PEPPERS TYLER DORSEY HALI...IF HALI FAILS MCBRIDE..IS READY..HE PLAYED WITH HEART..
THAT 1ST PICK..A CURRY...RAY LEW D WILLIAMS..
MY CBs AND SAFETYS..ARE LEGIT..RAY LEW..WILL MAKE SURE THEY DO THERE JOB...THAT WHY I HAVE HIM..TO GIVE THEM HEART...AND SWAGGER...AND EACH POSITONS HAS A GOOD BACK UP..DEFENSE SOLID..SOME MAY ASK WHY TRADE DJ...HIS TECHNICS ARE RUIN..THEY COACH HIM BAD OUT THE GATE..(DANG)AND IF B SPIKES IS ON THE BOARD BY 2ND ROUND..I WILL GET HIM ..FOR WHEN RAY LEW..MOVES ON....AND ALL OTHER PICKS LEFT WILL BE TO REVANT THAT LINE..CAUSE THERE ARE SOME ROAD GRATERS..COME OUT THIS YEAR...SOME VERY GOOD 3RDS..AND WE HAVE PICKS..TO DO THE JOB FROM THE TRADE..BRING IN A GOOD DEFENSE COACH AND RAY LEW...AND PEPPERS..TEACHING ALL THRU...AND WHERE AWSOME...



OFFENSE...CASSELL QB THIGGY WATCH AND LEARN
IF WE CAN LET SOME GO.....THAT DIDNT DO A THING IN 08...WHICH WILL NOT BE HARD..GET SPROLES..
WILL HAVE 3 3RD PICKS.OL...AND 4RD THERE ARE SOME..GOOD RB... FEEL IN SOME HOLES...LET THE  OFFENSE CATCH UP TO THE DEFENSE GET SOME CHEMISTY..GOING...AND ..WE ARE IN THE PLAY OFFS..

LOOK @ THIS REAL GOOD FOLKS...IT CAN BE DONE..WITH OUT..HOPING. JUST PAY THE MONEY AND WHERE STILL UNDER THE CAP..AND WILL BE A YOUNG TEAM..FOR YEARS TO COME..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay&#8230;lets see..as i look @ the chiefs..ordeal&#8230;this is what i would do &#8230;i am not gonna be cheap..and it for the long hall..and i am making my judgment from what i have seen from this year..</p>
<p>staff&#8230;.all GONE ..ALL..<br />
NEEDS &#8230;QB..A REAL STARTER..THIGGY..NOT READY YET..CASSELL..WINS..<br />
RB LJ UR GONE..3RD 7TH RD DRAFT PICK<br />
HERE&#8217;S SURTAIN THE EGG DROP..TE..GONZO..DJ/..TRADE HOPEFULLY RAVENS..RAY LEW..AND 4RD PICK..I&#8217;LL TELL WHY LATER.AND I AM SPENDING MONEY FOR J..PEPPERS..WHAT EVER IT TAKES<br />
if you think we played with rookies last year..this will be a another rebulid&#8230;but this is what will be differ..</p>
<p>I NEED MY DEFENSE TO BE ON SIGHT KILLERS&#8230;WHEN THAT UNIFORM GO ON BE LIKE THE MOST HATED COP..ON EARTH..I HAVE A JOB TO DO&#8230;.HOW..THATS RAY LEW..AND PEPPERS&#8230;WE HAVE DEFENSE SWAGGER&#8230;AND A DAM LEADER..THE BEST IN THE GAME..PUT DORSEY WHERE HE BELONGS..AND CAN DO DAMAGE..THEM PICKS..1 PICK CURRY<br />
NOW LOOK&#8230;PEPPERS TYLER DORSEY HALI&#8230;IF HALI FAILS MCBRIDE..IS READY..HE PLAYED WITH HEART..<br />
THAT 1ST PICK..A CURRY&#8230;RAY LEW D WILLIAMS..<br />
MY CBs AND SAFETYS..ARE LEGIT..RAY LEW..WILL MAKE SURE THEY DO THERE JOB&#8230;THAT WHY I HAVE HIM..TO GIVE THEM HEART&#8230;AND SWAGGER&#8230;AND EACH POSITONS HAS A GOOD BACK UP..DEFENSE SOLID..SOME MAY ASK WHY TRADE DJ&#8230;HIS TECHNICS ARE RUIN..THEY COACH HIM BAD OUT THE GATE..(DANG)AND IF B SPIKES IS ON THE BOARD BY 2ND ROUND..I WILL GET HIM ..FOR WHEN RAY LEW..MOVES ON&#8230;.AND ALL OTHER PICKS LEFT WILL BE TO REVANT THAT LINE..CAUSE THERE ARE SOME ROAD GRATERS..COME OUT THIS YEAR&#8230;SOME VERY GOOD 3RDS..AND WE HAVE PICKS..TO DO THE JOB FROM THE TRADE..BRING IN A GOOD DEFENSE COACH AND RAY LEW&#8230;AND PEPPERS..TEACHING ALL THRU&#8230;AND WHERE AWSOME&#8230;</p>
<p>OFFENSE&#8230;CASSELL QB THIGGY WATCH AND LEARN<br />
IF WE CAN LET SOME GO&#8230;..THAT DIDNT DO A THING IN 08&#8230;WHICH WILL NOT BE HARD..GET SPROLES..<br />
WILL HAVE 3 3RD PICKS.OL&#8230;AND 4RD THERE ARE SOME..GOOD RB&#8230; FEEL IN SOME HOLES&#8230;LET THE  OFFENSE CATCH UP TO THE DEFENSE GET SOME CHEMISTY..GOING&#8230;AND ..WE ARE IN THE PLAY OFFS..</p>
<p>LOOK @ THIS REAL GOOD FOLKS&#8230;IT CAN BE DONE..WITH OUT..HOPING. JUST PAY THE MONEY AND WHERE STILL UNDER THE CAP..AND WILL BE A YOUNG TEAM..FOR YEARS TO COME..</p>
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		<title>By: Carlm</title>
		<link>http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/the-man-the-myths.html#comment-10387</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no one here disrespected YOU! Why are you doing it? I dont care whether you hate carl or not you come on to this blog and start disrespecting the person that provides it. He didnt come to your house and say things about you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no one here disrespected YOU! Why are you doing it? I dont care whether you hate carl or not you come on to this blog and start disrespecting the person that provides it. He didnt come to your house and say things about you.</p>
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		<title>By: Hatt</title>
		<link>http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/the-man-the-myths.html#comment-10386</link>
		<dc:creator>Hatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 07:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CarlM:

&quot;No one here disrespected why are you doing it?&quot;

What does that mean exactly?  Did you maybe forget a word or two?  I mean your first sentence almost made sense, so I had such high hopes for the second.  Alas, it just got worse as time went by.  Much like a Carl Peterson draft pick.

The thing about us &quot;Carl Haters&quot;: we don&#039;t hate on Carl because we think its fun.  Believe me, this last 10 years has not been fun.  We hate on him because he has been bad at his job for a long time, and we are the ones who have paid the price.  If people are doing their jobs well, there is no need for a &quot;whipping boy.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CarlM:</p>
<p>&#8220;No one here disrespected why are you doing it?&#8221;</p>
<p>What does that mean exactly?  Did you maybe forget a word or two?  I mean your first sentence almost made sense, so I had such high hopes for the second.  Alas, it just got worse as time went by.  Much like a Carl Peterson draft pick.</p>
<p>The thing about us &#8220;Carl Haters&#8221;: we don&#8217;t hate on Carl because we think its fun.  Believe me, this last 10 years has not been fun.  We hate on him because he has been bad at his job for a long time, and we are the ones who have paid the price.  If people are doing their jobs well, there is no need for a &#8220;whipping boy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rin Tin Tin</title>
		<link>http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/the-man-the-myths.html#comment-10345</link>
		<dc:creator>Rin Tin Tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CarlM

They&#039;re jealous because they&#039;re unqualified nee not regular &#039;members&#039; of Bob&#039;s discussion blog - they&#039;re even lesser/smaller than kevin kietzman...


:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CarlM</p>
<p>They&#8217;re jealous because they&#8217;re unqualified nee not regular &#8216;members&#8217; of Bob&#8217;s discussion blog &#8211; they&#8217;re even lesser/smaller than kevin kietzman&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CarlM</title>
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		<dc:creator>CarlM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Hatt and Bob&#039;s Mouth- it is so nice douche bags like you come on here disrespecting people. No one here disrespected why are you doing it? You don&#039;t like bob fine that is your opinion. Keep it to yourself and go away we dont need this kind of crap here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Hatt and Bob&#8217;s Mouth- it is so nice douche bags like you come on here disrespecting people. No one here disrespected why are you doing it? You don&#8217;t like bob fine that is your opinion. Keep it to yourself and go away we dont need this kind of crap here.</p>
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		<title>By: LeoICT</title>
		<link>http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/the-man-the-myths.html#comment-10327</link>
		<dc:creator>LeoICT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Have to say, the Carl haters will have to find a new whipping boy. They speak as though they know Carl. They don&#039;t, and never did. Take the time and read Gretz&#039;s article again. Apply your brain, and then you might see the truth. Carl let his coaches make decisions on players, and assisistants. He took input from all his staff on drafts, and players. He also took the responsibility. I will bet most the whiners that complain about Carl, never took resonsibility for anything in their life. Maybe it was time for Carl to move on, but understand this, he wanted to win, he did have some good teams, and 2003 was not so long ago. It is not his fault that we did not win. There are way too many of you so called fans that buy into anything the media says, like the 5 year plan. Guees who came up with that one. Fatlock. No truth to it. Go ahead , try to find actual proof, not Whitless, or Kietzman. Carl saved football in KC. Let&#039;s hope the new GM can keep it here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Have to say, the Carl haters will have to find a new whipping boy. They speak as though they know Carl. They don&#8217;t, and never did. Take the time and read Gretz&#8217;s article again. Apply your brain, and then you might see the truth. Carl let his coaches make decisions on players, and assisistants. He took input from all his staff on drafts, and players. He also took the responsibility. I will bet most the whiners that complain about Carl, never took resonsibility for anything in their life. Maybe it was time for Carl to move on, but understand this, he wanted to win, he did have some good teams, and 2003 was not so long ago. It is not his fault that we did not win. There are way too many of you so called fans that buy into anything the media says, like the 5 year plan. Guees who came up with that one. Fatlock. No truth to it. Go ahead , try to find actual proof, not Whitless, or Kietzman. Carl saved football in KC. Let&#8217;s hope the new GM can keep it here.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob's Mouth</title>
		<link>http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/the-man-the-myths.html#comment-10311</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob's Mouth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi this is bob&#039;s mouth and i am tired of being tied to the tip of carl&#039;s manhood, could somebody please help me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi this is bob&#8217;s mouth and i am tired of being tied to the tip of carl&#8217;s manhood, could somebody please help me?</p>
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		<title>By: Hatt</title>
		<link>http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/the-man-the-myths.html#comment-10310</link>
		<dc:creator>Hatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long before Gretz follows his benefactor to Miami?  I mean seriously, there is no room in KC for this drivel anymore.

&quot;There are those that will tell you he&#039;s one of the most caring and compassionate people they&#039;ve ever met, who if he has a fault it&#039;s his extreme loyalty. Imagine that: the worst trait of a man is that he&#039;s loyal? We should all be so lucky as to have that fault.&quot;

- Wow.  Now that&#039;s a first-rate ass-kissing.  Well done Gretz, well done.  Quick question: Does Carl like it when you write this stuff or is he a little creeped out?  Seems like we&#039;ve got a &quot;Single White Female&quot; situation here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long before Gretz follows his benefactor to Miami?  I mean seriously, there is no room in KC for this drivel anymore.</p>
<p>&#8220;There are those that will tell you he&#8217;s one of the most caring and compassionate people they&#8217;ve ever met, who if he has a fault it&#8217;s his extreme loyalty. Imagine that: the worst trait of a man is that he&#8217;s loyal? We should all be so lucky as to have that fault.&#8221;</p>
<p>- Wow.  Now that&#8217;s a first-rate ass-kissing.  Well done Gretz, well done.  Quick question: Does Carl like it when you write this stuff or is he a little creeped out?  Seems like we&#8217;ve got a &#8220;Single White Female&#8221; situation here.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael An</title>
		<link>http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/the-man-the-myths.html#comment-10309</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael An</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People forget how he turned around this franchise..His first ten years we&#039;re about as good as you can do without winning the big game..His last ten we&#039;re mediocre really.These last two have been horrible but my personal feeling is that Carl&#039;s worst move was hiring hermie..Carl I got respect for ya..Thanks for making arrowhead the most fun place to watch a game..

Once we let Herm go, things will get back to normal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People forget how he turned around this franchise..His first ten years we&#8217;re about as good as you can do without winning the big game..His last ten we&#8217;re mediocre really.These last two have been horrible but my personal feeling is that Carl&#8217;s worst move was hiring hermie..Carl I got respect for ya..Thanks for making arrowhead the most fun place to watch a game..</p>
<p>Once we let Herm go, things will get back to normal</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 04:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,
I agree with most articles you write, and although you have many truths to C.P., you left out many truths also, for instance: C.P. is the man who said he would give Jared Allen a fair deal, and then tried to swindle his agent with alcaholism, and lack of effort in he 4th quarter, leading to Jared getting angry and refusing to try to reach an agreement. Many players in the NFL did not want to come to the Chiefs, BECAUSE of C.P., and that fact cannot be looked over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,<br />
I agree with most articles you write, and although you have many truths to C.P., you left out many truths also, for instance: C.P. is the man who said he would give Jared Allen a fair deal, and then tried to swindle his agent with alcaholism, and lack of effort in he 4th quarter, leading to Jared getting angry and refusing to try to reach an agreement. Many players in the NFL did not want to come to the Chiefs, BECAUSE of C.P., and that fact cannot be looked over.</p>
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		<title>By: Big John</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article Bob.  Thanks for setting the facts straight.</description>
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		<title>By: JohnNdallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnNdallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scratch Team, They had theirs, (to the point of hemorrhage), Make that, Organization needs an Enema.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scratch Team, They had theirs, (to the point of hemorrhage), Make that, Organization needs an Enema.</p>
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		<title>By: tm1946</title>
		<link>http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/the-man-the-myths.html#comment-10302</link>
		<dc:creator>tm1946</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not look for me to give them one.  carl is very good a the business side but he suffers from over ego and if it fails (ie look at chiefs since Vermeil hit the road) carl does not fight to fix it it just leaves town.

That is if his minions will just shut up and let him go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not look for me to give them one.  carl is very good a the business side but he suffers from over ego and if it fails (ie look at chiefs since Vermeil hit the road) carl does not fight to fix it it just leaves town.</p>
<p>That is if his minions will just shut up and let him go.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnNdallas</title>
		<link>http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/the-man-the-myths.html#comment-10301</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnNdallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tm, I know Bob insist that this was a resignation as apposed to a termination, but i feel certain that Peterson was not ready to call it quits here!(more to the story than we know) Who could blame him? This team has slumped to an ALL Time low, Peterson is a proud man, he doesn&#039;t/didn&#039;t want it to end this way! Not under his watch.

It Was Time!

To borrow the words of Jack Nicholson in Batman....... 

&quot;This Team Needs An Enema!&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tm, I know Bob insist that this was a resignation as apposed to a termination, but i feel certain that Peterson was not ready to call it quits here!(more to the story than we know) Who could blame him? This team has slumped to an ALL Time low, Peterson is a proud man, he doesn&#8217;t/didn&#8217;t want it to end this way! Not under his watch.</p>
<p>It Was Time!</p>
<p>To borrow the words of Jack Nicholson in Batman&#8230;&#8230;. </p>
<p>&#8220;This Team Needs An Enema!&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>question  for bob , who you think is going be new gm for the chiefs ?</description>
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		<title>By: Rin Tin Tin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rin Tin Tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JohnNdallas

Rin tunes into &#039;stubby&#039; aka kk for the guests he sometimes has, Mitch Holtus primarily during the regular season, and the other guy in the AM name of Petro as he offered Grunhard &amp; Croyle. 

Other than those few &amp; sporadic others, that tin can and a shoestring operation is laughable. I&#039;ve never heard of a  &quot;largest sports station&quot; in the country as they refer to themselves that operates with such ridiculous techincal expertise ... they give new meaning to the old broadcast adage  &quot;one moment please.&quot; 

They are the Detroit Lions of the airwaves... 


:-)</description>
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<p>Rin tunes into &#8216;stubby&#8217; aka kk for the guests he sometimes has, Mitch Holtus primarily during the regular season, and the other guy in the AM name of Petro as he offered Grunhard &amp; Croyle. </p>
<p>Other than those few &amp; sporadic others, that tin can and a shoestring operation is laughable. I&#8217;ve never heard of a  &#8220;largest sports station&#8221; in the country as they refer to themselves that operates with such ridiculous techincal expertise &#8230; they give new meaning to the old broadcast adage  &#8220;one moment please.&#8221; </p>
<p>They are the Detroit Lions of the airwaves&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Doofus Rawes</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outstanding Robert!!

Nobody understands what we go through.  Defending Carl Delano Peterson at all costs is our job and we do it proudly.

Soon we shall join the King on the sunny Florida South Beach and say goodbye to these midwest hillbilly, camero driving, mulletheads forever.

ViVa La Carl!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outstanding Robert!!</p>
<p>Nobody understands what we go through.  Defending Carl Delano Peterson at all costs is our job and we do it proudly.</p>
<p>Soon we shall join the King on the sunny Florida South Beach and say goodbye to these midwest hillbilly, camero driving, mulletheads forever.</p>
<p>ViVa La Carl!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: tm1946</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry malito, beating a dead horse might also cover the four or more articles Bob has put on this site since carl announced his leaving.

Never fear carl will be live at approx. 2PM tomorrow.  So this may be a case where the corpse keeps climbing out of the grave, where we keep hitting him with the shovel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry malito, beating a dead horse might also cover the four or more articles Bob has put on this site since carl announced his leaving.</p>
<p>Never fear carl will be live at approx. 2PM tomorrow.  So this may be a case where the corpse keeps climbing out of the grave, where we keep hitting him with the shovel.</p>
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		<title>By: malo papi</title>
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		<dc:creator>malo papi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much like the &quot;five-year plan&quot; most of what we all &quot;know&quot; about Carl is second hand from various media sources.   I appreciate Bob&#039;s perspective and wished more of this kind of information was disseminated to balance the crap on the radio and paper in the last twenty years.

A few days after Clark&#039;s announcement regarding Carl, Drs. Kietzman and Clinkscale were conducting another one of their daily kickings of the dead horse.  Finally,  when they took a breath and the topic was changed, they pondered other high-level topics like the coaching carousel in college football, and opined that much of a coach&#039;s reputation is formed by the media (i.e. Bobby Knight).  They said that often the true character of a coach is only known by those close to them, such as players and peers.

Obviously, the irony was missed by these rocket scientists that they have spent a good amount of their careers forming others&#039; opinions of Carl Peterson.  In fairness, I thought it was also a nice touch that they tried to book Jared Allen and the agent for John Tait to help balance their conclusions of the last decade.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much like the &#8220;five-year plan&#8221; most of what we all &#8220;know&#8221; about Carl is second hand from various media sources.   I appreciate Bob&#8217;s perspective and wished more of this kind of information was disseminated to balance the crap on the radio and paper in the last twenty years.</p>
<p>A few days after Clark&#8217;s announcement regarding Carl, Drs. Kietzman and Clinkscale were conducting another one of their daily kickings of the dead horse.  Finally,  when they took a breath and the topic was changed, they pondered other high-level topics like the coaching carousel in college football, and opined that much of a coach&#8217;s reputation is formed by the media (i.e. Bobby Knight).  They said that often the true character of a coach is only known by those close to them, such as players and peers.</p>
<p>Obviously, the irony was missed by these rocket scientists that they have spent a good amount of their careers forming others&#8217; opinions of Carl Peterson.  In fairness, I thought it was also a nice touch that they tried to book Jared Allen and the agent for John Tait to help balance their conclusions of the last decade.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work, Bob.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnNdallas</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There MAY HAVE BEEN some advantage with the salary cap by not placing guys on IR that late in the season, in Donnie&#039;s case any way.
I&#039;m not claiming that for sure, I remember this topic coming up before. I asked Bob in open forum, if he would explain how, exactly placing a player in Donnie&#039;s situation on IR affected the Salary Cap. But that as often is, was a waste of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There MAY HAVE BEEN some advantage with the salary cap by not placing guys on IR that late in the season, in Donnie&#8217;s case any way.<br />
I&#8217;m not claiming that for sure, I remember this topic coming up before. I asked Bob in open forum, if he would explain how, exactly placing a player in Donnie&#8217;s situation on IR affected the Salary Cap. But that as often is, was a waste of time.</p>
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		<title>By: MenInRed</title>
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		<dc:creator>MenInRed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would trade our C&amp;H sugar(carl &amp; herm) for the whole damn Can of Tuna(Parcell&#039;s &amp; Co.) for sure.

lol</description>
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		<title>By: JohnNdallas</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update on &quot;kk&quot;, I no longer lend my ear to his babble, he comes on, me and my little PC turn to rock music! 
So in the future, IF!!, he ever has any thing to say worth hearing I&#039;ll be unaware,unless it is repeated here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update on &#8220;kk&#8221;, I no longer lend my ear to his babble, he comes on, me and my little PC turn to rock music!<br />
So in the future, IF!!, he ever has any thing to say worth hearing I&#8217;ll be unaware,unless it is repeated here.</p>
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		<title>By: findthedr</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 00:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agree arrowhead78 that teams dont always tell media exactly what is wrong with their players. 

That being said, the chiefs left LJ on the 53 roster when they could have put him on IR and freed up space. 

The exact same thing could be said about Donnie Edwards whome they only put on the IR for the last game of the season. 

Its one thing to try to guard player status to keep the enemy from a competitive advantage, but it is entirely a diffrent thing to end up keeping players on the active roster who are unable to participate for extended periods and thus putting your team in a competitive disadvantage. 

The equivalent would be if Belicheck told the media that Bradie&#039;s knee was &#039;swole&#039; (hermism) and leave him on the 53 for the season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree arrowhead78 that teams dont always tell media exactly what is wrong with their players. </p>
<p>That being said, the chiefs left LJ on the 53 roster when they could have put him on IR and freed up space. </p>
<p>The exact same thing could be said about Donnie Edwards whome they only put on the IR for the last game of the season. </p>
<p>Its one thing to try to guard player status to keep the enemy from a competitive advantage, but it is entirely a diffrent thing to end up keeping players on the active roster who are unable to participate for extended periods and thus putting your team in a competitive disadvantage. </p>
<p>The equivalent would be if Belicheck told the media that Bradie&#8217;s knee was &#8216;swole&#8217; (hermism) and leave him on the 53 for the season.</p>
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		<title>By: tm1946</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good news for guys like jimbo.  Carl will probably land on his feet, he will not go hungry just yet.  He is a buddy of the new owner of MIAMI. They (fish haters) are already up in arms with the thought carl might be coming.  They are even worried herm may come with him, now that&#039;s funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good news for guys like jimbo.  Carl will probably land on his feet, he will not go hungry just yet.  He is a buddy of the new owner of MIAMI. They (fish haters) are already up in arms with the thought carl might be coming.  They are even worried herm may come with him, now that&#8217;s funny.</p>
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		<title>By: arrowhead78</title>
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		<dc:creator>arrowhead78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>findthedr, in football teams normally dont tell the media exactly what is wrong with their star players.  IMO, that would be a stupid move.  For example how many times did Belicheck tell the truth about injuries and right now, Norv Turner hasn&#039;t told anyone whats really wrong with LT...

Shanahan I hope never becomes a Chiefs HC, its bad enough not to like Denver but to bring him to coach the chiefs, people like sleeping with the enemy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>findthedr, in football teams normally dont tell the media exactly what is wrong with their star players.  IMO, that would be a stupid move.  For example how many times did Belicheck tell the truth about injuries and right now, Norv Turner hasn&#8217;t told anyone whats really wrong with LT&#8230;</p>
<p>Shanahan I hope never becomes a Chiefs HC, its bad enough not to like Denver but to bring him to coach the chiefs, people like sleeping with the enemy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rin Tin Tin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rin Tin Tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RedandGoldRice says:

&quot;Rin, You must be going on no sleep what so ever and be punch drunk. Shockingly, I&#039;d have to agree with you as well. DeCosta has my vote for GM, and as much as it turns my stomach, Rat-face might actually make a (gulp) HC here.&quot;

- the only thing is &#039;if&#039; KC goes with a younger or younger GM the possibility exists the new GM will want a coach who is fuzzy-cheeked like him, whereas a Shanahan will be, what, 57 in 2009?

Just something to consider.


:-)</description>
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<p>&#8220;Rin, You must be going on no sleep what so ever and be punch drunk. Shockingly, I&#8217;d have to agree with you as well. DeCosta has my vote for GM, and as much as it turns my stomach, Rat-face might actually make a (gulp) HC here.&#8221;</p>
<p>- the only thing is &#8216;if&#8217; KC goes with a younger or younger GM the possibility exists the new GM will want a coach who is fuzzy-cheeked like him, whereas a Shanahan will be, what, 57 in 2009?</p>
<p>Just something to consider.</p>
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		<title>By: Rin Tin Tin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rin Tin Tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry says:

&quot;Rin you irritate , but very nicely put.&quot;

- like Reggie, Rin is the straw that stirs the drink...


:-)</description>
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<p>&#8220;Rin you irritate , but very nicely put.&#8221;</p>
<p>- like Reggie, Rin is the straw that stirs the drink&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rin Tin Tin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rin Tin Tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JohnNdallas says:

&quot;the local boy&#039;s in the Media and Peterson havin a male member measuring contest. (I wish he could have gotten kietzman fired, I&#039;m sure he has nothing to measure)&quot;

- well, ol&#039; stubby (kietzman) just &#039;disappeared&#039; entirely. How &#039;small&#039; is kk? 

Now he&#039;s on the radio with his sidekick clinker?, essentially deriding the MIA Dolphins/their fans/ their future etc. by way of when/if Carl Peterson might go to work there.

Small and petty does not begin to describe this kk guy. As Bob Gretz said, this kk is probably chagrined he&#039;l no longer have Carl to denigrate and with that loss so too his questionable show.</description>
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<p>&#8220;the local boy&#8217;s in the Media and Peterson havin a male member measuring contest. (I wish he could have gotten kietzman fired, I&#8217;m sure he has nothing to measure)&#8221;</p>
<p>- well, ol&#8217; stubby (kietzman) just &#8216;disappeared&#8217; entirely. How &#8216;small&#8217; is kk? </p>
<p>Now he&#8217;s on the radio with his sidekick clinker?, essentially deriding the MIA Dolphins/their fans/ their future etc. by way of when/if Carl Peterson might go to work there.</p>
<p>Small and petty does not begin to describe this kk guy. As Bob Gretz said, this kk is probably chagrined he&#8217;l no longer have Carl to denigrate and with that loss so too his questionable show.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who is Rufus Dawes ? is it Bob or Mitch Holthus</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Hoover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Hoover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s nice to know that there are still some people in the media who will write honorably.  Thanks for the article, Bob.</description>
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		<title>By: RedandGoldRice</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedandGoldRice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rin,
You must be going on no sleep what so ever and be punch drunk. Shockingly, I&#039;d have to agree with you as well. DeCosta has my vote for GM, and as much as it turns my stomach, Rat-face might actually make a (gulp) HC here. They can definately identify QBs in the draft. Thats a plus for us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rin,<br />
You must be going on no sleep what so ever and be punch drunk. Shockingly, I&#8217;d have to agree with you as well. DeCosta has my vote for GM, and as much as it turns my stomach, Rat-face might actually make a (gulp) HC here. They can definately identify QBs in the draft. Thats a plus for us!</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rin you irritate , but very nicely put.</description>
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		<title>By: Rin Tin Tin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rin Tin Tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tht was Rex Ryan for new Defensive Coordinator... @!*^% blog gremlins.


:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tht was Rex Ryan for new Defensive Coordinator&#8230; @!*^% blog gremlins.</p>
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		<title>By: Rin Tin Tin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rin Tin Tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes...Rin is expert in the usage verbiage, wit &amp; devastating insight. He nee I am a keeper.

Continuing, just say NO to Pioli, NYET to Cowher, HELL NO to Schottenheimer, NO to Stoops, and, NO to McDaniels.

Consider carefully Eric DeCosta &amp; Mark Dominik, definite GM maybes.

Mike Shanahan? Rin prefers Herm, but if he would leave Ratface gets the cheese. Sleeper: Rex Ryan, BALT Ravens.

Word.


:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes&#8230;Rin is expert in the usage verbiage, wit &amp; devastating insight. He nee I am a keeper.</p>
<p>Continuing, just say NO to Pioli, NYET to Cowher, HELL NO to Schottenheimer, NO to Stoops, and, NO to McDaniels.</p>
<p>Consider carefully Eric DeCosta &amp; Mark Dominik, definite GM maybes.</p>
<p>Mike Shanahan? Rin prefers Herm, but if he would leave Ratface gets the cheese. Sleeper: Rex Ryan, BALT Ravens.</p>
<p>Word.</p>
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		<title>By: CarlM</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remarkably Rin that is perhaps one of the best posts I have read from you. I agree with almost all of it</description>
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		<title>By: Rin Tin Tin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rin Tin Tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob

I guess the obvious question is: as Carl Peterson was &#039;so&#039; good at producing revenue for the Chiefs why wasn&#039;t a better football man brought in afore now to handle that aspect? 

Ego? I can only imagine what might have been for Kaycee if a man as talented in a football sense as Peterson was in revenue, had been Peterson&#039;s equal or alter ego in leading the football side these last 20 years.

When does the desire for &#039;winning football&#039; which I describe as Championship(s) displace attendance marks? Aft 20 years of Peterson some may say, yet dwindling attendance now is eerily reminiscent of Stram&#039;s last days 1974 &amp; Steadman&#039;s last 1988, so that while both football and lost revenues may go hand in hand in the final analysis there&#039;s really no difference tween the success Stram or failures Steadman and Peterson when the bottom line starts leaning in the wrong direction- it seems the only real culprit for change.  

Hank Stram said Lamar Hunt panicked in 1974 when Hunt fired Stram. Loyalty? To what? Dollars, for KC hasn&#039;t had a real football team in a complete sense since Stram&#039;s salad days but dollars by all acounts seem to be in good stead. 

Too harsh? Too simplistic? Show me how if so, and I&#039;ve read/heard all the excuses.      

Lamar Hunt&#039;s loyalty? Perhaps - but if Lamar was loyal to Carl, why was he not also to Stram when Steadman was doing his backstabbing early 1970s? 
Beyond this $ element, I&#039;ve never understood how Hunt could fire a Stram after but a single one/1 losing season his final 11, but would stick with a football man (nee Mega-Man - CEO/President/GM) Peterson despite &#039;decades&#039; of also ran football. Again, the most plausible answer which presents itself is the one involves former US Presidents heads displayed on paper. Loyalty &amp; personalty are secondary, my opine.

The very fact Carl helped put a small (indeed a cow town according to many) place like KC at or near the top of NFL attendance yearly became in essence his achilles heel and strangest paradox when compared with the football team&#039;s fortunes. 

That he  presided over an also ran at minimum for the last 10 years &amp; some might say for the entire 20 years made his expertise turnstile even harder to accept or fathom. 

It also didn&#039;t help that many folk - including Rin - via personal perspective/perception felt  Carl&#039;s personality was too Eastern if you will, or maybe to the extent the public was exposed to him/it in general. Many folks didn&#039;t like CP but many people didn&#039;t like Stram either - right or wrong in both cases these 2 guys were percieved as being superior...Rin understands. 

Egos be tolerable if winning&#039;s the thing but it seems to me that both Stram &amp; Peterson became a whole lot less loveable when winning exited - or never really existed at all in the truest sense said, the latter fellow.

Life&#039;s tough in the NFL ... so are KC fans after wandering lost in the wilderness with their team(s) these last 40 or so years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob</p>
<p>I guess the obvious question is: as Carl Peterson was &#8216;so&#8217; good at producing revenue for the Chiefs why wasn&#8217;t a better football man brought in afore now to handle that aspect? </p>
<p>Ego? I can only imagine what might have been for Kaycee if a man as talented in a football sense as Peterson was in revenue, had been Peterson&#8217;s equal or alter ego in leading the football side these last 20 years.</p>
<p>When does the desire for &#8216;winning football&#8217; which I describe as Championship(s) displace attendance marks? Aft 20 years of Peterson some may say, yet dwindling attendance now is eerily reminiscent of Stram&#8217;s last days 1974 &amp; Steadman&#8217;s last 1988, so that while both football and lost revenues may go hand in hand in the final analysis there&#8217;s really no difference tween the success Stram or failures Steadman and Peterson when the bottom line starts leaning in the wrong direction- it seems the only real culprit for change.  </p>
<p>Hank Stram said Lamar Hunt panicked in 1974 when Hunt fired Stram. Loyalty? To what? Dollars, for KC hasn&#8217;t had a real football team in a complete sense since Stram&#8217;s salad days but dollars by all acounts seem to be in good stead. </p>
<p>Too harsh? Too simplistic? Show me how if so, and I&#8217;ve read/heard all the excuses.      </p>
<p>Lamar Hunt&#8217;s loyalty? Perhaps &#8211; but if Lamar was loyal to Carl, why was he not also to Stram when Steadman was doing his backstabbing early 1970s?<br />
Beyond this $ element, I&#8217;ve never understood how Hunt could fire a Stram after but a single one/1 losing season his final 11, but would stick with a football man (nee Mega-Man &#8211; CEO/President/GM) Peterson despite &#8216;decades&#8217; of also ran football. Again, the most plausible answer which presents itself is the one involves former US Presidents heads displayed on paper. Loyalty &amp; personalty are secondary, my opine.</p>
<p>The very fact Carl helped put a small (indeed a cow town according to many) place like KC at or near the top of NFL attendance yearly became in essence his achilles heel and strangest paradox when compared with the football team&#8217;s fortunes. </p>
<p>That he  presided over an also ran at minimum for the last 10 years &amp; some might say for the entire 20 years made his expertise turnstile even harder to accept or fathom. </p>
<p>It also didn&#8217;t help that many folk &#8211; including Rin &#8211; via personal perspective/perception felt  Carl&#8217;s personality was too Eastern if you will, or maybe to the extent the public was exposed to him/it in general. Many folks didn&#8217;t like CP but many people didn&#8217;t like Stram either &#8211; right or wrong in both cases these 2 guys were percieved as being superior&#8230;Rin understands. </p>
<p>Egos be tolerable if winning&#8217;s the thing but it seems to me that both Stram &amp; Peterson became a whole lot less loveable when winning exited &#8211; or never really existed at all in the truest sense said, the latter fellow.</p>
<p>Life&#8217;s tough in the NFL &#8230; so are KC fans after wandering lost in the wilderness with their team(s) these last 40 or so years.</p>
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		<title>By: ILChiefsFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILChiefsFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, JohnN. I&#039;ve been reading (times are way too interesting not to), just not commenting. Seems I only comment when irked these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, JohnN. I&#8217;ve been reading (times are way too interesting not to), just not commenting. Seems I only comment when irked these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Armando</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s not an urban myth is that at the end of the day, Carl made more bad decisions than good decisions, and that Lamar stuck with Carl for 10 years too long.  I would also argue that most of Carl&#039;s success here came about because of the coaching abilities of Marty Schottenheimer.  Once Carl decided to go with Gunther as Marty&#039;s successor, that was the beginning of the end...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s not an urban myth is that at the end of the day, Carl made more bad decisions than good decisions, and that Lamar stuck with Carl for 10 years too long.  I would also argue that most of Carl&#8217;s success here came about because of the coaching abilities of Marty Schottenheimer.  Once Carl decided to go with Gunther as Marty&#8217;s successor, that was the beginning of the end&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JohnNdallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnNdallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IL, Agree! as I said it makes Peterson look small and Petty, we expect that from guys like kietzman and twitlock but not a professional.

Any way, It&#039;s good to see you slumin today. LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IL, Agree! as I said it makes Peterson look small and Petty, we expect that from guys like kietzman and twitlock but not a professional.</p>
<p>Any way, It&#8217;s good to see you slumin today. LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: findthedr</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant disagree Lloyd. Given the oppurtunity, I think Gretz would still be defending Herm and goonther. 

The chiefs wanted to limit the info available about the team. This is how we find out that LJ has a broken foot from a packer reporter before we hear it from KC media...and all season long we hear from the chiefs that his foot is &#039;swole&#039; (hermism). 

The most shameful aspect of the chiefs trying to &#039;get the media&#039; has to be the Rufus Dawes &quot;columns.&quot; 

Apparently it seems that those associated with the chiefs (Gretz included) have chosen to &#039;go down fighting&#039; rather than embrace the innevitable and much needed change that will surely be coming to the orginization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant disagree Lloyd. Given the oppurtunity, I think Gretz would still be defending Herm and goonther. </p>
<p>The chiefs wanted to limit the info available about the team. This is how we find out that LJ has a broken foot from a packer reporter before we hear it from KC media&#8230;and all season long we hear from the chiefs that his foot is &#8216;swole&#8217; (hermism). </p>
<p>The most shameful aspect of the chiefs trying to &#8216;get the media&#8217; has to be the Rufus Dawes &#8220;columns.&#8221; </p>
<p>Apparently it seems that those associated with the chiefs (Gretz included) have chosen to &#8216;go down fighting&#8217; rather than embrace the innevitable and much needed change that will surely be coming to the orginization.</p>
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		<title>By: Rip 'em a new one</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rip 'em a new one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,  

You can drop the pucker and quit kissing up to Carl Peterson.  It&#039;s okay.  He&#039;s gone and my only regret is that it didn&#039;t happen about 10 years sooner.   

You have an excellent site, filled with quality information on any number of issues and people involved in the sport but give the CP lovefest a rest?

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,  </p>
<p>You can drop the pucker and quit kissing up to Carl Peterson.  It&#8217;s okay.  He&#8217;s gone and my only regret is that it didn&#8217;t happen about 10 years sooner.   </p>
<p>You have an excellent site, filled with quality information on any number of issues and people involved in the sport but give the CP lovefest a rest?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: ILChiefsFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILChiefsFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, JohnNdallas.  I agree totally with what you said earlier about the &quot;measuring&quot; contest between Peterson and the media.  I&#039;ve got to say, though, that Peterson should have had better judgment than to let that happen. Someone in such a high-profile position has to keep their ego in check and figure out some way to get along with the local media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, JohnNdallas.  I agree totally with what you said earlier about the &#8220;measuring&#8221; contest between Peterson and the media.  I&#8217;ve got to say, though, that Peterson should have had better judgment than to let that happen. Someone in such a high-profile position has to keep their ego in check and figure out some way to get along with the local media.</p>
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		<title>By: KF</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually agree with what you have to write, but today&#039;s article turns my stomach.</description>
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		<title>By: Lloyd</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl Peterson came off as a condescending jerk when he opened his mouth and that&#039;s nobodys fault but his own. And anybody with the slightest amount of intuition could smell the arrogance oozing off of Carl from a mile away. Bob Gretz is a guy that defended Paul Hackett and Elvis Grbac till the bitter end.  so to summarize Carl is a Jerk and Bob is a yes man and both are well past their primes.  Good Riddance Carl !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl Peterson came off as a condescending jerk when he opened his mouth and that&#8217;s nobodys fault but his own. And anybody with the slightest amount of intuition could smell the arrogance oozing off of Carl from a mile away. Bob Gretz is a guy that defended Paul Hackett and Elvis Grbac till the bitter end.  so to summarize Carl is a Jerk and Bob is a yes man and both are well past their primes.  Good Riddance Carl !!!</p>
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		<title>By: JohnNdallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnNdallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Hello IL, I agree twitlock is a total moron!
After having made my 1st post on this thread, I now hear that Peterson is going to give a short statement to the media, That imo is the right thing to do. That was the main point I was trying to make. I remember how bad it was Pryor to Peterson, (not sure it was ever as bad as it is now) He has earned my respect, I hope he leaves knowing that there are many that feel the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Hello IL, I agree twitlock is a total moron!<br />
After having made my 1st post on this thread, I now hear that Peterson is going to give a short statement to the media, That imo is the right thing to do. That was the main point I was trying to make. I remember how bad it was Pryor to Peterson, (not sure it was ever as bad as it is now) He has earned my respect, I hope he leaves knowing that there are many that feel the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Rin Tin Tin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rin Tin Tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time check: 11:51 a.m CST Monday, January 5, 2009...and yup, Herm&#039;s STILL The Man!


:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time check: 11:51 a.m CST Monday, January 5, 2009&#8230;and yup, Herm&#8217;s STILL The Man!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.bobgretz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ILChiefsFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILChiefsFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Whitlock: he is a braying ass. He is the perfect embodiment of the narcissism, hubris, ignorance, and nastiness that characterize the modern sports media celebrity.

As Bob noted about the sports media in general, this is a guy who never has to answer for the things he gets wrong.  If he did he&#039;d be lucky to be writing obits for some rural county paper. All he has to do to keep his cushy job is stir the pot.

And it&#039;s hilarious how Whitlock gets all pissy about Peterson not talking to the &quot;legitimate&quot; media, and in the very next sentence says it doesn&#039;t matter what Peterson has to say. Those grapes tasting a little sour, Big Sexy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Whitlock: he is a braying ass. He is the perfect embodiment of the narcissism, hubris, ignorance, and nastiness that characterize the modern sports media celebrity.</p>
<p>As Bob noted about the sports media in general, this is a guy who never has to answer for the things he gets wrong.  If he did he&#8217;d be lucky to be writing obits for some rural county paper. All he has to do to keep his cushy job is stir the pot.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s hilarious how Whitlock gets all pissy about Peterson not talking to the &#8220;legitimate&#8221; media, and in the very next sentence says it doesn&#8217;t matter what Peterson has to say. Those grapes tasting a little sour, Big Sexy?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Broski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Broski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,

Thanks for this fair assessment of Carl Peterson.  Amid all the retrospectives on Carl, no one has mentioned that he is the one who ripped up the turf at Arrowhead and put in natural grass.  Now that may not seem like a big deal to many people, but it was to me.  For that, Carl, Thank You!

Carl has never had fair treatment from the KC media, and sort of like George Bush, he didn&#039;t really care.  But I think history, especially when the new Arrowhead appears, will show that there was much to appreciate in this man.

While I&#039;m at it, thank you Bob for not stooping to Jason Whitlock&#039;s level in your comments.  We all know he has been very unfair to you and I believe you have handled his childish insults with a great deal of class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>Thanks for this fair assessment of Carl Peterson.  Amid all the retrospectives on Carl, no one has mentioned that he is the one who ripped up the turf at Arrowhead and put in natural grass.  Now that may not seem like a big deal to many people, but it was to me.  For that, Carl, Thank You!</p>
<p>Carl has never had fair treatment from the KC media, and sort of like George Bush, he didn&#8217;t really care.  But I think history, especially when the new Arrowhead appears, will show that there was much to appreciate in this man.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m at it, thank you Bob for not stooping to Jason Whitlock&#8217;s level in your comments.  We all know he has been very unfair to you and I believe you have handled his childish insults with a great deal of class.</p>
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		<title>By: Noel</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Bob Gretz. Well done. It&#039;s a lonely job at the top. One usually gets all the blame and none of the glory, not to mention attacks from the arrogant members of the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Bob Gretz. Well done. It&#8217;s a lonely job at the top. One usually gets all the blame and none of the glory, not to mention attacks from the arrogant members of the media.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it was time for Carl to go.  Past time, actually.

But, I never quite understood the need for so many to &quot;Satanize&quot; the guy.  I guess it&#039;s easy to sit behind a keyboard or a radio microphone and be critical, though.  It&#039;s easy to have an opinion on how the job needs to be done, and the decisions that must be made...when you don&#039;t have to actually MAKE those decisions.

&quot;Be careful what you wish for&quot; is right.  A new GM will not guarantee success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it was time for Carl to go.  Past time, actually.</p>
<p>But, I never quite understood the need for so many to &#8220;Satanize&#8221; the guy.  I guess it&#8217;s easy to sit behind a keyboard or a radio microphone and be critical, though.  It&#8217;s easy to have an opinion on how the job needs to be done, and the decisions that must be made&#8230;when you don&#8217;t have to actually MAKE those decisions.</p>
<p>&#8220;Be careful what you wish for&#8221; is right.  A new GM will not guarantee success.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Job Bob...
Critics are a dime a dozen and misery loves company. Pretty much sums up the &quot;in crowd&quot;.
God love Carl for his fortitude and insight. Not many REAL MEN could handle all the negative publicity, and subsequent public outcry that he endured. I am particularly discouraged how the media, &quot;in their infinite wisdom&quot; stopped printing the news and  swiftly skewed the NEWS to personal, factless opinions and ideas.  Total disregard for the real story, facts etc. They don&#039;t even do their homework anymore. I find it incredulous that you need a college education to spread crap all over the front page news story or media driven headline news.

Newspapers are the worse. story after story, day after day spewing their personal opinions and beliefs as opposed to the news story itself. They want to mold the unsuspecting public into thinking their way. No wonder they are all going broke... 
I could go on, but I won&#039;t.. 
Thank you Mr. Peterson, it was a Great Ride..... God Speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Job Bob&#8230;<br />
Critics are a dime a dozen and misery loves company. Pretty much sums up the &#8220;in crowd&#8221;.<br />
God love Carl for his fortitude and insight. Not many REAL MEN could handle all the negative publicity, and subsequent public outcry that he endured. I am particularly discouraged how the media, &#8220;in their infinite wisdom&#8221; stopped printing the news and  swiftly skewed the NEWS to personal, factless opinions and ideas.  Total disregard for the real story, facts etc. They don&#8217;t even do their homework anymore. I find it incredulous that you need a college education to spread crap all over the front page news story or media driven headline news.</p>
<p>Newspapers are the worse. story after story, day after day spewing their personal opinions and beliefs as opposed to the news story itself. They want to mold the unsuspecting public into thinking their way. No wonder they are all going broke&#8230;<br />
I could go on, but I won&#8217;t..<br />
Thank you Mr. Peterson, it was a Great Ride&#8230;.. God Speed.</p>
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		<title>By: KUKevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>KUKevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In general the media has always had a problem - sports talk radio is the worst offender &quot;“ in that they believe they are allowed to have an opinion about administrators, coaches and athletes, but those people are not allowed to have an opinion about the abilities, veracity and work ethic of those in the media.&quot;

Say what you will about Carl, but Bob&#039;s quote here is dead on.  I remember not to long ago Carl was conducting a radio interview with Soren Petro on 810AM and suggested, after seeing his ratings, that he should move himself into the prime time spot.  Boy oh Boy when Keitzman got on later was he ever flying off the handle about that one.  Keitzman could not believe that someone would dare question that someone could do his job better them him.

Bottom line is this:  Carl needed to go because it was time for a change, BUT the things the media would drum up on Carl over the years was absurd.  Bob is treated by many as a lackey just for merely stepping back and taking an objective assessment of the situation.  Thanks for being the voice of reason in the KC media for these past 20 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In general the media has always had a problem &#8211; sports talk radio is the worst offender &#8220;“ in that they believe they are allowed to have an opinion about administrators, coaches and athletes, but those people are not allowed to have an opinion about the abilities, veracity and work ethic of those in the media.&#8221;</p>
<p>Say what you will about Carl, but Bob&#8217;s quote here is dead on.  I remember not to long ago Carl was conducting a radio interview with Soren Petro on 810AM and suggested, after seeing his ratings, that he should move himself into the prime time spot.  Boy oh Boy when Keitzman got on later was he ever flying off the handle about that one.  Keitzman could not believe that someone would dare question that someone could do his job better them him.</p>
<p>Bottom line is this:  Carl needed to go because it was time for a change, BUT the things the media would drum up on Carl over the years was absurd.  Bob is treated by many as a lackey just for merely stepping back and taking an objective assessment of the situation.  Thanks for being the voice of reason in the KC media for these past 20 years.</p>
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		<title>By: P Baird</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,

I usually love your thoughts and opinions, but I think it&#039;s safe to say that Kansas City is done with Carl and ready to move on. I respect that you knew him well and probably want to defend him but let him go as the rest of us have. Just like in football you leave the past in the past, because there&#039;s nothing you can do to change it and it doesn&#039;t do anygood to dwell in it. Come on Bob let&#039;s move on to 2009 and make it a great one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>I usually love your thoughts and opinions, but I think it&#8217;s safe to say that Kansas City is done with Carl and ready to move on. I respect that you knew him well and probably want to defend him but let him go as the rest of us have. Just like in football you leave the past in the past, because there&#8217;s nothing you can do to change it and it doesn&#8217;t do anygood to dwell in it. Come on Bob let&#8217;s move on to 2009 and make it a great one!</p>
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		<title>By: Double A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Double A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 16:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the insight, Bob.

I was doing a slow, miserable burn last night watching Jared Allen get to Donovan McNabb on every pass play.  Even though he&#039;s a dunce, he&#039;s a pro-bowl DE dunce.  {sob}

Carl helped select the best draft choice made in my adulthood-- DT.  Still, the organization&#039;s personnel moves in this decade have been questionable.  Trading top draft picks for Coaches???  ...some things went wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the insight, Bob.</p>
<p>I was doing a slow, miserable burn last night watching Jared Allen get to Donovan McNabb on every pass play.  Even though he&#8217;s a dunce, he&#8217;s a pro-bowl DE dunce.  {sob}</p>
<p>Carl helped select the best draft choice made in my adulthood&#8211; DT.  Still, the organization&#8217;s personnel moves in this decade have been questionable.  Trading top draft picks for Coaches???  &#8230;some things went wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnNdallas</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any one who thought/thinks Lamar Hunt gave Peterson free rein of the Co. Check Book, is not living in the real world.
It&#039;s not hard to see that Peterson wanted to win, but I can&#039;t help but think the &quot;Master Plan&quot; was make the team as competitive as possible with out spending MEGA amounts of Money, maybe they&#039;d get lucky and win a SB in the process of building the bottom line.
Imho Peterson doesn&#039;t/shouldn&#039;t tote the note on this one.

All the rest of that is just the local boy&#039;s in the Media and Peterson havin a male member measuring contest. (I wish he could have gotten kietzman fired, I&#039;m sure he has nothing to measure):)

As far as the way Peterson handled his final press conference; He could have at the least had a press release sent out to ALL sources of media, then give Bob the Exclusive live interview.
Peterson little stunt was a kick in the teeth to an awfully lot of people that appreciated what he accomplished in KC. Many of those people won&#039;t ever hear Peterson&#039;s interview with Bob.
I am a Peterson supporter (although I do agree it was time for a change) but this little stunt smacks of being Chicken $h!% imho. Peterson is coming out looking small and petty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any one who thought/thinks Lamar Hunt gave Peterson free rein of the Co. Check Book, is not living in the real world.<br />
It&#8217;s not hard to see that Peterson wanted to win, but I can&#8217;t help but think the &#8220;Master Plan&#8221; was make the team as competitive as possible with out spending MEGA amounts of Money, maybe they&#8217;d get lucky and win a SB in the process of building the bottom line.<br />
Imho Peterson doesn&#8217;t/shouldn&#8217;t tote the note on this one.</p>
<p>All the rest of that is just the local boy&#8217;s in the Media and Peterson havin a male member measuring contest. (I wish he could have gotten kietzman fired, I&#8217;m sure he has nothing to measure):)</p>
<p>As far as the way Peterson handled his final press conference; He could have at the least had a press release sent out to ALL sources of media, then give Bob the Exclusive live interview.<br />
Peterson little stunt was a kick in the teeth to an awfully lot of people that appreciated what he accomplished in KC. Many of those people won&#8217;t ever hear Peterson&#8217;s interview with Bob.<br />
I am a Peterson supporter (although I do agree it was time for a change) but this little stunt smacks of being Chicken $h!% imho. Peterson is coming out looking small and petty.</p>
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		<title>By: tm1946</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why did you waste your time, BOB?  Everyone has an opinion about carl.  Why does the chiefs organization have an undieing need to annoint carl for sainthood?  

With a cold eye to this article, where was all this &quot;good&quot; PR while he had some time left on the job.  For 20 years carl was god&#039;s gift to the KC chiefs but you PR guys said nothing.  Now he is gone you cannot say enough good things.

PS for what it is worth, your myth #5 does not agree with my version of myth #5, enough said about truths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did you waste your time, BOB?  Everyone has an opinion about carl.  Why does the chiefs organization have an undieing need to annoint carl for sainthood?  </p>
<p>With a cold eye to this article, where was all this &#8220;good&#8221; PR while he had some time left on the job.  For 20 years carl was god&#8217;s gift to the KC chiefs but you PR guys said nothing.  Now he is gone you cannot say enough good things.</p>
<p>PS for what it is worth, your myth #5 does not agree with my version of myth #5, enough said about truths.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you gotta love Bob and his constant toungue- bathing of Carl Peterson...


Give me an articla that is not constantly defending Carl Peterson, for once...would ya?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you gotta love Bob and his constant toungue- bathing of Carl Peterson&#8230;</p>
<p>Give me an articla that is not constantly defending Carl Peterson, for once&#8230;would ya?</p>
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