Comments on: Stop The Run To Win … Wednesday Cup O’Chiefs http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/stop-the-run-to-win-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html Dedicated to providing the best coverage of the Kansas City Chiefs. News, commentary, reports, and exclusive inside information - daily! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:49:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Big Lee http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/stop-the-run-to-win-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-33391 Big Lee Wed, 23 Dec 2009 23:21:20 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=12064#comment-33391 Cassel is at least a serviceable QB. He needs a better line in front of him, and at least one dependable reciever. That is not the main thing that plagues the Chiefs, although it is a problem. The front 7 of the Chiefs is horrible. At first you could blame the transition to the 3-4, with personnel drafted to play the 4-3 in most instances. Many of those people are gone, yet Chiefs let the listless Browns gore them at home. Chiefs must invest in LBs, and get better performance from DL. Safety is a concern, but you don't use high draft picks at that position, unless you are going to take Bernard Pollard. Oops, we gave him away. Man, this team needs help. Cassel is at least a serviceable QB. He needs a better line in front of him, and at least one dependable reciever. That is not the main thing that plagues the Chiefs, although it is a problem.

The front 7 of the Chiefs is horrible. At first you could blame the transition to the 3-4, with personnel drafted to play the 4-3 in most instances. Many of those people are gone, yet Chiefs let the listless Browns gore them at home. Chiefs must invest in LBs, and get better performance from DL. Safety is a concern, but you don’t use high draft picks at that position, unless you are going to take Bernard Pollard. Oops, we gave him away. Man, this team needs help.

]]> By: Jim Lloyd + http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/stop-the-run-to-win-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-33388 Jim Lloyd + Wed, 23 Dec 2009 21:19:08 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=12064#comment-33388 Dorsey is a big key to what he does , but more so to what others do around him . The TE's need to be in there to block . THE big question Jon Yoon has is where has Cottam's been. He had trouble in pratice ( drops etc. ) and that all got worked out . I think the TE's the Chief's have are big and fast and proably are going to play way up there in the team's long time sucess . Their blocking has helped Matt . Getting new WR's in is a must , because there is more of just a small problem with the group that was here and they are being replaced . Life saving Todd !!!! Dorsey is a big key to what he does , but more so to what others do around him . The TE’s need to be in there to block . THE big question Jon Yoon has is where has Cottam’s been. He had trouble in pratice ( drops etc. ) and that all got worked out . I think the TE’s the Chief’s have are big and fast and proably are going to play way up there in the team’s long time sucess . Their blocking has helped Matt .
Getting new WR’s in is a must , because there is more of just a small problem with the group that was here and they are being replaced . Life saving Todd !!!!

]]> By: el cid http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/stop-the-run-to-win-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-33387 el cid Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:49:34 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=12064#comment-33387 If you get achance, colby, check out the Jackson interview before the last game. He said his job was to keep a OLineman off LBs. That is not correct for a DE but if that is what the Chiefs want him to do, then he is being coached wrong. There is more to the job of DE in the 3-4 than keeping a OT on the line of scrimmage. That is all he does and then cleans up afterward. I agree that Dorsey and Jackson are not a whole lot together but not much is expected of him, according to Jackson. The basics are missing here, no wonder they cannot amount to much except to a cash drain. If you get achance, colby, check out the Jackson interview before the last game. He said his job was to keep a OLineman off LBs. That is not correct for a DE but if that is what the Chiefs want him to do, then he is being coached wrong. There is more to the job of DE in the 3-4 than keeping a OT on the line of scrimmage. That is all he does and then cleans up afterward. I agree that Dorsey and Jackson are not a whole lot together but not much is expected of him, according to Jackson. The basics are missing here, no wonder they cannot amount to much except to a cash drain.

]]> By: colby http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/stop-the-run-to-win-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-33385 colby Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:10:58 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=12064#comment-33385 So let me reiterate here; we have two defensive lineman whose contracts combined are over 100 million dollars, and we've gotten smoked three straight games on the ground to the tune of over 800 yards. All three games at home no less. I don't care about who our LBs are, they aren't being kept clean by our D line. It would help if Dorsey and Jackson put pressure on the QB or broke up plays in the backfield, but they have combined for ZERO sacks and ONE tackle for loss. Money well spent Chiefs! And people want to run Cassel out of town because he makes 60 and has nobody to throw the ball to. So let me reiterate here; we have two defensive lineman whose contracts combined are over 100 million dollars, and we’ve gotten smoked three straight games on the ground to the tune of over 800 yards. All three games at home no less. I don’t care about who our LBs are, they aren’t being kept clean by our D line. It would help if Dorsey and Jackson put pressure on the QB or broke up plays in the backfield, but they have combined for ZERO sacks and ONE tackle for loss. Money well spent Chiefs!

And people want to run Cassel out of town because he makes 60 and has nobody to throw the ball to.

]]> By: el cid http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/stop-the-run-to-win-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-33377 el cid Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:47:05 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=12064#comment-33377 I have not seen much "quit" in the 09 Chiefs, it is more like the Alamo. 168 men against 1,200 soldiers, once the fight started it was over pretty quick. There is just not enough NFL grade talent on the Chiefs this year. As for winning one of the last two games, only the "positive" guys will give the Chiefs a chance. Still they have to play anyway so why not win one. I have not seen much “quit” in the 09 Chiefs, it is more like the Alamo. 168 men against 1,200 soldiers, once the fight started it was over pretty quick. There is just not enough NFL grade talent on the Chiefs this year. As for winning one of the last two games, only the “positive” guys will give the Chiefs a chance. Still they have to play anyway so why not win one.

]]> By: Mad Chief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/stop-the-run-to-win-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-33374 Mad Chief Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:06:52 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=12064#comment-33374 jimbo says: "Holy Moley do we have alot of work to do this offseason." No doubt about that. Let's hope Pioli is the genius that a lot of people think he is...because he's going to need to be. I don't envy the job that he and Haley have to do. I think we might find out a little something about some of our guys these last two games. Will they come out and play to win? Or will they quit? Although now that I say that...it might be difficult to tell the difference. For this week, my main hope is that our former RB doesn't "gallop all over the Chiefs. Cleat prints on the chests. Mud in the face masks"...like he claimed he was going to do. That would be the ultimate insult...in a season filled with them. jimbo says:

“Holy Moley do we have alot of work to do this offseason.”

No doubt about that. Let’s hope Pioli is the genius that a lot of people think he is…because he’s going to need to be. I don’t envy the job that he and Haley have to do.

I think we might find out a little something about some of our guys these last two games. Will they come out and play to win? Or will they quit? Although now that I say that…it might be difficult to tell the difference.

For this week, my main hope is that our former RB doesn’t “gallop all over the Chiefs. Cleat prints on the chests. Mud in the face masks”…like he claimed he was going to do. That would be the ultimate insult…in a season filled with them.

]]> By: el cid http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/stop-the-run-to-win-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-33373 el cid Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:01:14 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=12064#comment-33373 The better team should win against Cincy and Denver to thankfully end the season. I doubt the Chiefs are better at much right now. It is sad the Chiefs are the chumps of the NFL in 2009. Read some other blogs for other teams and they have the same moaning and groaning and fire this guy but all have one difference on our blogs. They all seem to have one guy who is making a difference to the fans (as in promise for the future). I thought Herm was a bad HC but feel we traded him for an incompetant one and throw Pioli in as a zero also. I can hardly wait for the success you guys see coming next year because this year's toast, burnt toast. The better team should win against Cincy and Denver to thankfully end the season. I doubt the Chiefs are better at much right now. It is sad the Chiefs are the chumps of the NFL in 2009. Read some other blogs for other teams and they have the same moaning and groaning and fire this guy but all have one difference on our blogs. They all seem to have one guy who is making a difference to the fans (as in promise for the future). I thought Herm was a bad HC but feel we traded him for an incompetant one and throw Pioli in as a zero also. I can hardly wait for the success you guys see coming next year because this year’s toast, burnt toast.

]]> By: Arrowheadlines: Chiefs News 12/23 http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/stop-the-run-to-win-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-33372 Arrowheadlines: Chiefs News 12/23 Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:44:56 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=12064#comment-33372 [...] Stop The Run To Win … Wednesday Cup O’Chiefs | Chiefs Football at BobGretz.comOne thing never changes about football, no matter the era. A team that wants to win must be able to defense the running game. Against Cleveland last Sunday, the Chiefs dropped passes and allowed a pair of kickoff returns for touchdowns. But more importantly, they were gashed for 351 rushing yards, more than any opponent has managed in a single game against the franchise through 50 seasons. [...] [...] Stop The Run To Win … Wednesday Cup O’Chiefs | Chiefs Football at BobGretz.comOne thing never changes about football, no matter the era. A team that wants to win must be able to defense the running game. Against Cleveland last Sunday, the Chiefs dropped passes and allowed a pair of kickoff returns for touchdowns. But more importantly, they were gashed for 351 rushing yards, more than any opponent has managed in a single game against the franchise through 50 seasons. [...]

]]> By: jimbo http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/stop-the-run-to-win-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-33371 jimbo Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:39:06 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=12064#comment-33371 Like Bob says if we could'nt stop the lowly Brown's running game, how in the hell can we stop the cats & donkeys. I was embarrassed by our run defense, I hope they were too. Maybe with Dorsey gone it made a difference. I don't have much optimism to win any more games this year, but like always, I will eagerly watch the game on Sunday, not so much for a win, just not be embarrassed again. Holy Moley do we have alot of work to do this offseason. Go Chiefs. Like Bob says if we could’nt stop the lowly Brown’s running game, how in the hell can we stop the cats & donkeys. I was embarrassed by our run defense, I hope they were too. Maybe with Dorsey gone it made a difference.
I don’t have much optimism to win any more games this year, but like always, I will eagerly watch the game on Sunday, not so much for a win, just not be embarrassed again.
Holy Moley do we have alot of work to do this offseason.
Go Chiefs.

]]> By: Jim Lloyd + http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/stop-the-run-to-win-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-33370 Jim Lloyd + Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:37:30 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=12064#comment-33370 In the last two years that's the (9) ninth game that KC has LOST to officiating crews !!!!!! In the last two years that’s the (9) ninth game that KC has LOST to officiating crews !!!!!!

]]> By: Rodeo John http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/stop-the-run-to-win-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-33369 Rodeo John Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:26:46 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=12064#comment-33369 Yeah the officiating crew sucked on Sunday. Several holding penalties not called. The delay of game at the end that wasn't called. Either way, we should have got the job done and we didn't. On the second bootleg that Quinn ran, our guy over pursued and ran right past Quinn sighted in on the RB instead of where the ball was. The fake wasn't that good either. Our guys on the outside did a lot of that on Sunday, overpursuing to the backfield and then trying to chase the RB back up the middle. Course the MLB's were seriously lacking. There was a play in the 3rd Qtr where Harrison jammed his right foot in the ground like he was going to explode left and then cut the opposited direction. The two ILB's were standing there like they were providing him security at some gala event. It was pretty sad. I think we have some talent on D, but I hang a lot of what is ailing us on D on Pendegrast. Some of his schemes that he is utilizing just ain't working. Also, in some of the close games that we were winning by 7 or less, he goes to a soft coverage D...what the heck?!? If we have been playing them tight all game and it has been working and we were able to get the lead, then continue what was WORKING!!! Don't go to a soft I don't want to lose D. Nothing gets me boiling faster than a DC that calls plays to not lose, vice calling plays to win. Yeah the officiating crew sucked on Sunday. Several holding penalties not called. The delay of game at the end that wasn’t called. Either way, we should have got the job done and we didn’t.

On the second bootleg that Quinn ran, our guy over pursued and ran right past Quinn sighted in on the RB instead of where the ball was. The fake wasn’t that good either. Our guys on the outside did a lot of that on Sunday, overpursuing to the backfield and then trying to chase the RB back up the middle. Course the MLB’s were seriously lacking. There was a play in the 3rd Qtr where Harrison jammed his right foot in the ground like he was going to explode left and then cut the opposited direction. The two ILB’s were standing there like they were providing him security at some gala event. It was pretty sad.

I think we have some talent on D, but I hang a lot of what is ailing us on D on Pendegrast. Some of his schemes that he is utilizing just ain’t working. Also, in some of the close games that we were winning by 7 or less, he goes to a soft coverage D…what the heck?!? If we have been playing them tight all game and it has been working and we were able to get the lead, then continue what was WORKING!!! Don’t go to a soft I don’t want to lose D. Nothing gets me boiling faster than a DC that calls plays to not lose, vice calling plays to win.

]]> By: MattyMc44 http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/stop-the-run-to-win-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-33368 MattyMc44 Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:39:00 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=12064#comment-33368 "Nice picture at the top of the article, notice the Browns player HOLDING the leg of #53 D. Williams!" Yes, unfortunately it shows Corey Mays behind him. That's both of the Chiefs MLBs. I am a glass half-full guy, but the MLBs were not very good Sunday and seem to have hit a wall on the season, in general. There were several times against the Browns that they were out of position, never got to position, or missed too many tackles. What's sad is that former-#1 pick DJ doesn't seem to be impressing any in order to play more. “Nice picture at the top of the article, notice the Browns player HOLDING the leg of #53 D. Williams!”

Yes, unfortunately it shows Corey Mays behind him. That’s both of the Chiefs MLBs. I am a glass half-full guy, but the MLBs were not very good Sunday and seem to have hit a wall on the season, in general. There were several times against the Browns that they were out of position, never got to position, or missed too many tackles.

What’s sad is that former-#1 pick DJ doesn’t seem to be impressing any in order to play more.

]]> By: Merwin in NY http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/stop-the-run-to-win-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-33367 Merwin in NY Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:29:01 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=12064#comment-33367 Nice picture at the top of the article, notice the Browns player HOLDING the leg of #53 D. Williams! The worst of it is both the Bengals and Broncos are liking their chops thinking about playing the Chiefs. Unless Haley figures a way to stop the run, you are going to see both teams running straight at the heart of the Chiefs defense. The announcers were amazed that on one of the runs by the Browns, the Chiefs had eight men in the box and still allowed a big gain. I almost hope we end up with one of the top picks to get Nebraska's DT Suh, they really need someone to plug up the middle like Bill Mass did. A wideout would fit in nice, but it would be a return to the Vermiel era were the offense needs to score on every possession to out score the defensive shortcomings. The stats really remind me of the tough times the Chiefs went through from the late seventies to the end of the eighties. GO CHIEFS! Nice picture at the top of the article, notice the Browns player HOLDING the leg of #53 D. Williams! The worst of it is both the Bengals and Broncos are liking their chops thinking about playing the Chiefs. Unless Haley figures a way to stop the run, you are going to see both teams running straight at the heart of the Chiefs defense. The announcers were amazed that on one of the runs by the Browns, the Chiefs had eight men in the box and still allowed a big gain. I almost hope we end up with one of the top picks to get Nebraska’s DT Suh, they really need someone to plug up the middle like Bill Mass did. A wideout would fit in nice, but it would be a return to the Vermiel era were the offense needs to score on every
possession to out score the defensive
shortcomings. The stats really remind me of the tough times the Chiefs went through from the late seventies to the end of the eighties. GO CHIEFS!

]]> By: Keith http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/stop-the-run-to-win-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-33366 Keith Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:00:22 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=12064#comment-33366 I really thought Mark Bradley would be a very productive player here. He had many chances, but too many drops... I really thought Mark Bradley would be a very productive player here. He had many chances, but too many drops…

]]> By: Arrowhead Addict | A Kansas City Chiefs Blog http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/stop-the-run-to-win-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-33364 Arrowhead Addict | A Kansas City Chiefs Blog Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:46:49 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=12064#comment-33364 [...] Stop The Run To Win-Bob Gretz.com If that weren’t bad enough — the Chiefs had 10 drops in Sunday’s embarrassing loss to Cleveland — the more destructive fallout is that the wideouts’ confidence is bruised, quarterback Matt Cassel can’t count on his wingmen, and the Chiefs’ already imperfect offense is held back. [...] [...] Stop The Run To Win-Bob Gretz.com If that weren’t bad enough — the Chiefs had 10 drops in Sunday’s embarrassing loss to Cleveland — the more destructive fallout is that the wideouts’ confidence is bruised, quarterback Matt Cassel can’t count on his wingmen, and the Chiefs’ already imperfect offense is held back. [...]

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