Patience – Emmitt Thomas got in – these guys will get their due.

- love (of what someone speaks about) means never having to say your sorry – as such, Rin has never & will never apologize…join that rarified aire.

“I have always wondered about one thing.”

- consider yourself lucky then; most folks wander around in a state un-requited wonder their entire lives…not Rin of course.

“Given the number of retired players out there.”

- uh huh, uh huh…

“I think the HOF should up the old time players to at least four per year, if not equal to the more current players going in (six I believe)?”

- regards such, my question is/would be- what are you afraid of HOF/voters? True enough there is or least in principle should be a line demaracation some between merely very good players and great, nee HOF caliber. Otherwise, every very good who ever played would be HOF. Good to a point – but ultimately fraught with niggling doubt aft vote.

My opine, the response to said is the HOF’s not so arbitrary minimum requirement on the one and maximum at the other enshrinee quota/limits.

“Just seems like there are an awful lot of players who are elligable but never even get considered.”

- it does seem that way, thus probably is, least considered seriously nee with anything more than an insight theirs that conjures any further than say 1980. The downside to the few ‘vintage’ them the voters is ‘if’ they be old enough to remember the 1960s or afore, they may & probably are still in most cases NFL biased shy say a Paul Zimmerman who was an AFL proponent; others more inclined as was the case thence toward ‘look down the end the nose’ sensibility, any. Double-edged sword.

Rin’s sentiment be the only Hall of Fame that to a fan should really matter is the one located at a spot center left chest, the other a bit north in the locale ‘memory’.

“How about it Bob?”

- that’s Rin…R-i-n (take a break Bob)

NEXT CASE/QUESTION!!!

- thank you . . . and well, I didn’t want to disappoint you.

; )

All the rest of what you said too is apropos, yet the biggest factor regarding any member(s) of the Chiefs or other teams’s player getting in is more a matter the of human factor (not to be confused with the ‘Hunan Factor’ which – to its own credit has been responsible for HOF caliber teas & other fine Chinese cusine.

No, ‘people’ via their bias – all of us & said – make the voting as subject to whim really as any thing else. There are so many nee too many cases where the measure is not constant nor consistent.
Those examples fuel Rin Tin Tin’s sentiment that human beings disappoint greatly for the most.

Is it popularity? Big city career? Stats all of them? Championship skins? Politics? Yes – it is all of that and perhaps more. And with so many variables nee so much leeway too an inherently flawed process. Yet, it is the best we have.

Jim Tyrer had more All Star and/or Pro Bowls than Ron Mix, Jim was a three time Champion, played in two Super Bowls & won a ring as World Champion – all of which Mix had not. Yet, Mix is in as a RT, Tyrer is not despite the fact he played the more challenging LT position too. Go figure.

No less than his teammate Fred Arbanas said Tyrer was “the best LT who ever played the game.’ Heady praise, with which I concur. Oh, & here’s another sentiment mine sure to inspire as well as inflame the panties into a bunch some folk – Arbanas was the better TE than Tony Gonzalez. TG was the more proficient receiver, & FA was the more proficient blocker – six of one, half a dozen the other and a matter only preference. As Fred was a better reciver than Gonzalez a blocker, I’ll go with Fred – which is the point. Personal preference, bias and subjectivity is as present the heart a life long Chiefs fan I as in hearts every & any voter HOF or other. Impartiality is a wonderful concept nee hope…and that’s all it is because it doesn’t exist in any true sense the word.

Back to stats, honors, championships and all the rest, ditto for a Johnny Robinson belonging HOF for all these very same reasons & factors, his being left out the HOF while a lesser these all respects Larry Wilson is in. Another travesty.

Jerrel Wilson was better x2 than Ray Guy in both gross as well as net punting average, yet all you
can believe via media hype is Guy is the only who has ever put foot to ball. Yale Lary was also the better than Guy my opine & two others are also in the argument all time best- yet NONE are HOFs, as if a punter was superfluous. Ridiculous.

Lynn Swann has lesser stat than Otis Taylor…so why is Lynn in & Otis is not? Big catches? Swann had nothing on Taylor in that – both had many. Appears championships, media darling ballyhoo & his more recent vintage all contributed to Swann being enshrined. In my opinion – here comes that human factor again – bias – mano y mano, a Swann couldn’t carry a Taylor’s shoes.

I knew when I wrote my post this blog that there would or will be D.Thomas adherents who decry my saying he should not go in afore guys like Tyrer & Robinson, et al, but that’s not why I said it – I said it because it is both my honest sentiment as well as fact, and in every sense the factors I have referenced Thomas comes up short those guys all considered.

Thomas was not unlike former Chief HOFr DT Buck Buchanan in that before his career even ended 58 was losing his greatest asset – speed/quickness. While still putting up good numbers he no longer was the peerless pass rushing force he had been (I remember OT Tony Boselli absolutely stoning Thomas when both players were said to be in the prime as it were.) Thomas belongs in the HOF no doubt, but like Buck and others Derrick was not one of those rare players who still dominating well into their 30′s like a Darrell Green among others. Buck lost his legs, so too was Thomas.

We likely all can agree that several Chiefs merit consideration which alas is no different than say most every other team & its fans regards several their players through the years.

I now return the soapbox to the other aggrieved herein…

JB

Baseball players have to choose a cap to be wearing when their face is depicted on their plaque, but football players have no uniform or team representation on their busts in Canton. The teams they played for and their years of service with those teams are listed, obviously, but football players don’t have to “pick a team” to be a part of when being inducted.

So Willie Roaf will just go in as “Willie Roaf”, rather than “Willie Roaf of the New Orleans Saints” or “Willie Roaf of the Kansas City Chiefs”.

—Tim

Roaf gets to pick which team he represents in Canton. The only reason I know this is that when Marcus Allen went in all those years ago he went in as a Chief and he spent more time with the Raiders. I remember him saying that it was his choice and he chose to go with the Chiefs. Don’t you know that scratched at Al Davis’ brain!?

OT Jim Tyrer & S Johnny Robinson are at minimum more deserving; too, Jerrel Wilson, Otis Taylor and Ed Budde merit consideration, as always.

Only aft the first two guys listed above are in should any other Chief be considered.

Please make a note of it.

heh heh heh

My message to the HOF committee: Derrick Thomas is not in the Hall of Fame…..FIX IT!

There has been a long list of outstanding defensive players in the NFL since 2000: Michael Strahan, Ray Lewis, Dwight Freeney, Ed Reed, Terrell Suggs, Jared Allen, Brian Urlacher, DeMarcus Ware, Shawne Merriman, Bob Sanders, Osi Umenyiora, etc. All outstanding players. All of them have shown the ability to give dominating performances.

But none of them step onto the field and CONTROL A GAME like Derrick Thomas.

—Tim