Quick Hits On 53-Man Roster

Whether the Chiefs stay with this 53-man group as their roster for the opener against Buffalo next Sunday or not, they’ve established the foundation for their 2011 season.

Here are a few quick thoughts on what they have wrought going from what was once 89 players, to the 53 they finished up with on Saturday, including 27 moves:

  • They went one heavy on defense with 26 players and 24 on offense.
  • Offensive line is short, with just 7 players on the roster right now. Seven blockers were released on Saturday and expect 3 maybe 4 to return on the practice squad.
  • Defensive line is where they went heavy, with 8 players on board for the 3 positions.
  • Split in the secondary was interesting, with 6 safeties and only 4 cornerbacks.
  • There are 8 rookies on the roster – WR Jonathan Baldwin, C/G Rodney Hudson, OLB Justin Houston, DL Allen Bailey, CB Jalil Brown, QB Ricky Stanzi, DT Jerrell Powe and DE Brandon Bair. That’s 7 of 9 draft choices and 1 rookie free agent.
  • Along with those 8 rookies are 7 other first time Chiefs – FB Le’Ron McClain, WR Steve Breaston, WR Keary Colbert, TE Anthony Becht, OT Jared Gaither, DL Amon Gordon and S Sabby Piscitelli. So that’s a total of 15 new players.
  • Who needs to play? All three players the Chiefs signed after the start of training camp that did not play in the 2010 season made the final roster: Gaither, Colbert and Becht.
  • Surprise player in – probably Bair. He’s got great potential, but whether that pays off in 2011 is doubtful.
  • Surprise player out – free agent rookie G Butch Lewis, based on the playing time he got all pre-season and the fact he could play G and T.
  • Not sure what this says about the Chiefs roster or depth of talent, but among the 25 players released, only two started games last season for the Chiefs – FB Mike Cox and WR Verran Tucker. They combined for four starts.
  • Practice squad predictions: Shane Bannon, Verran Tucker, Cody Slate, Butch Lewis, Mike Ingersoll, Bobby Greenwood, Demond Washington, Justin Cole.

70 Responses to “Quick Hits On 53-Man Roster”

  • September 3, 2011  - ed says:

    Im shocked with Moeaki out first 7 games we didnt keep Tucker over Copper. He’s better receiver and as good on special teams

  • September 3, 2011  - Niblick says:

    They only have two backup lineman, Gaither and Hudson. They are obviously going to have to add a couple of lineman. I don’t see how they can only carry two backups. They have seven wide receivers. I would think they might release a couple of them to add some lineman, perhaps Colbert or Copper. As Bob indicated, they are heavy in defensive line. They also could make some moves there.

  • September 3, 2011  - Niblick says:

    Ed- Moeaki is out for the season, not just first seven games.

  • September 3, 2011  - TimR says:

    If they can’t find an adequate receiving TE, they’ll go with more multiple WR sets which is why more WRs. The fact they kept more Safeties probably worked against Tucker. They probably felt a defensive player would be more aggressive & physical on special teams & threfore a better fit – for now. I still believe there could be some movement at potentially TE, QB & OL.

  • September 3, 2011  - pharmer says:

    I look for them to add one OL from another team, and the casualty from that would likely be a safety. (hopefully Sabby) By my count there are 5 safeties and 5 corners with one being Washington that could go either way. They are short on linebackers in the middle, but McGraw plays almost more like a linebacker spot than a safety these days in the sub packages. Glad to see them keep Bair. I think that he has potential as a DE and look for ST contribution this year from him

  • September 3, 2011  - Michael says:

    Bob, I don’t see the same split in the secondary: 5 Corners, 5 Safties-CB:Flowers, Carr, Arenas, Daniels, Brown; Safety: Berry, Lewis, McGraw, Washington and Piscatelli.

    That’s too light on the offensive line, but if they can manage to keep three OL on PS they might be ok: Lewis, Mims and Ingersoll. Bobby Greenwood still seems too far away after converting from the DL. Also seems a little light at Linebacker. I would feel much better with a veteran OL and LB signed.

    For the PS, I’d keep Bannon, Tucker, Horne, Lewis, Ingersoll, Mims, Cole and Washington. It’s also likely a couple players from other teams will be added instead.

    Even though KC is now down to 53, it sure seems like there are players being released from other teams who could be very helpful on the active roster and PS. The Chiefs should stay active because some of those players won’t be available after the first game. Guys like WR Donnie Avery, CB Joselio Hansen and G Tony Hills. Whether they will stay active or not, I don’t know.

  • September 3, 2011  - el cid says:

    For TimR, why on earth did they keep Becht at TE? He did nothing I saw. OL is light and DB are fat. Haley knows what he is doing but….. this roster has a lot of buts to it.

  • September 3, 2011  - Michael says:

    They have McCluster listed at WR, but it seems he may spend as much or more time playing RB; so I still count it more as six receivers. Make Avery the 7th. He’s inury prone but healthy right now, and can catch and flat out fly. See how he does until Baldwin is back, at least.

  • September 3, 2011  - TimR says:

    el cid…I think it was only because they know him & he’s been with them. Additionally, they carry 3 TEs. Becht may go by the wayside if they find somebody else from another team. I noticed Gronkowski (TE)from Denver was released. He wasn’t bad. I also see that Brandon Merriweather (S) & Brandon Tate (WR) both from NE were cut. If he’s an ok guy, I’d try to get Merriweather for sure & say goodbye to a good guy in McGraw.

  • September 3, 2011  - TimR says:

    Cornelius Ingram (TE) from Philly was released too. He was pretty good coming out from FL, but has injury history.

  • September 3, 2011  - el cid says:

    Guess I missed it. I was told Becht was an announcer for football games and did not play last year.

  • September 3, 2011  - TimR says:

    el cid…you’re correct. I meant they know him because he was with Haley in AZ for a bit & in camp for a few days.

  • September 3, 2011  - gorillafan says:

    I was surprised to see Cox go. He did contribute to the best rushing atack last year leadin the way for Charles n jones. Hope mcclain works out. Like what I see so far. As for Moeaki, fml, for you that know what that means….that injury hurts us in my opinion. Bout as bad as loosing a bowe or flowers type of player…

  • September 3, 2011  - Tenand6 says:

    Cassel needs big body receivers like Moeaki. Baldwin was an ideal pick for the type of QB Cassel is— not that accurate and could use big guys who can jump…..which is how he used Randy Moss in N.E.

    Baldwin needs to get back in the mix. Haley ran a great offense in AZ without relying on a TE, but Kurt Warner was his QB. I don’t know if Cassel can adjust to an offense that relies on the WR’s.

    I think there will be some movement by Pioli in the coming days and weeks. I assume they have interest in the Ravens LB, the NE safety, an OL and a TE.

    There’s a shortage of OL in the league right now so I hope Mims and Lewis can stay on our practice squad.

  • September 4, 2011  - Mark says:

    If Bair is anything other than a Practice Squad member at this time next week, it’ll be a bigger upset than Tyson losing to Buster Douglas. Sabby better not get too comfortable either.

  • September 4, 2011  - KC_Guy says:

    Verran Tucker is no longer PS eligible – he played in 11 games last year. Think he has a lot of upside – may be the cut I hate most.
    Wonder when Baldwin will be ready to play. If news are correct he’ll have splints removed next week I don’t believe he’ll be even close to playing before week 4. Thusthey could have put him on Reserve/PUP and brought him back week 6 – thus saving one roster spot.
    Not sure what to make out of 8 DL – keeping Bair on the roster doesn’t bode well for Tyson Jackson or Wallace Gilberry I think.

  • September 4, 2011  - pharmer says:

    Any trade talks going on? Any chance some team light on DE would like to have T Jax in exchange for a OL and picks? Just saying that I’ll bet there are other teams that are lopsided at certain positions. This next week of transactions around the league will be very interesting.

  • September 4, 2011  - David says:

    I think we’ll see the Return of Rudy. Niswanger (cut by Lions) isn’t starter quality, but would be a good backup.

  • September 4, 2011  - Niblick says:

    I doubt if anyone would trade for Jackson with his huge contract. He had 31MM in quaranteed money. I’m not sure how much we have paid, but I’m sure there is some remaining. I’m still hoping he becomes a solid lineman, but I’m not optimistic.

  • September 4, 2011  - el cid says:

    Doubt Jackson goes anywhere. The NFL is not into trades all that much, happens but not with contract that high and prodction that low.

    Does it bother anyone the both Pioli and Haley do not stray from their comfort zone on players. The additions seem to have a famaliarity or some contact woth the GM and HC? Even Gregg, if ravens had not made hash in the playoffs, would anyone in KC have every heard of him. Point is if the Chiefs are going to be in the upper levels of the NFL, you cannot stick with AZ or NE players, “someone” they are comfortable/famaliar with. There are 20+ teams who the Chiefs seem to know nothing about, personnel wise?

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  • September 4, 2011  - Chuck says:

    The Cowboys cut 29 year old IGOR OLSHANSKY. This guy is a BEAST. I would love for the Chiefs to pick him up. He could rotate with Kelly Gregg.

  • September 4, 2011  - el cid says:

    The Chiefs are doing nothing yet. Waters signed with NE. I really do not get it. It being get more talent on the roster and open your eye to find some and not sit on your ass waiting for next year’s draft.

  • September 4, 2011  - Niblick says:

    I would have thought they may have put a waiver claim in for Meriweather. He was claimed by the Bears who who would have waiver claims after them. I too am surprised. They have to get some more offensive lineman. I don’t see how you go with only two backups.

  • September 4, 2011  - Michael says:

    Free agent players often do go to teams where they have some familiarity with the coaches or front office. That’s not just with the Chiefs, but all over the league. I don’t see it so much with their most recent signings, though. Other than Breaston, who played for Haley in Arizona. What connections to KC did Kregg, Mcclain, Siler, Colber and Gordon have prior to coming to the Chiefs?

    The Pats suffered some injuries to their interior OL and Stephen Neal retired. Just the sort of situation where Waters was expected to go.

    Olshansky used to be a beast; not so much anymore. He might be solid in the rotation, though.

  • September 4, 2011  - Michael says:

    Chiefs have announced their practice squad:
    •FB Shane Bannon
    •LB Justin Cole
    •G Darryl Harris
    •WR Jeremy Horne
    •DB Quinten Lawrence
    •OL Butch Lewis
    •OL David Mims
    •NT Anthony Toribio
    It really looks like the Chiefs are trying to use the PS for depth along the OL, NT and inside linebacker. Harris and Toribio had injuries; so they may be just waiting for them to heal up. But that’s a risky way to hold your depth, since those players can be signed away at any time. Personally, I would feel much better about picking up a veteran OL for sure, and maybe a linebacker and NT if they can find them.

  • September 4, 2011  - el cid says:

    Nothing wrong with who they signed, probably will need them as this season progresses.

    KC ties to Gregg and McClain, on ravens who made hash of the Chiefs to end last year, so why not raid them? Siler from a division team, same as ravens players Colbert was a coach all of last year, maybe a favor? What did he do the impress you, Mike? All have a common thread, cheap. No real money to get them, mostly one year contracts. For all of it I see no problem with any. McClain may resurrect his career and that mean good things for the Chiefs in 2011. Other than that, doubt any of the rest do much and really doubt Gregg makes it all year.

    But what about Breaston and Becht? I do not see a lot of evidence Pioli and Haley “know” the league. Both are new, so let’s see what happens in player acquisition?

  • September 4, 2011  - Michael says:

    Just the same, I don’t see evidence they don’t know the league. Saying they have ties because the Chiefs played their former teams is a pretty tenuous argument for making that conclusion. And, I don’t see it as a negative that Haley has prior experience with Breaston or Becht; quite the contrary. As for Colbert, hey, if a guy shows he can play, I don’t really care what he did last year. He didn’t have to impress me to make the team, just the coaches. If he doesn’t show anything during the season, then I will object.

  • September 4, 2011  - el cid says:

    Right Mike, but who do they look to when the AZ and NE help gets to old to play football? It ties to saving all those cap dollars, good, great but when will they spend it, if ever?

    It is a mind set and if you want a superbowl in your life time these two are approaching it in an unusual method.

    If it is the coaches who decided Colbert, really doubt your future dis-satisfication will carry much wait.

  • September 4, 2011  - Michael says:

    I meant I wouldn’t bash the signing of Colbert until I had reason to, not that it would carry any weight with the team. Gregg is the only one of the group this year that could be called an older player. I’m just not buying the theory.

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