Comments on: Practice Report 11/12 Update http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html Dedicated to providing the best coverage of the Kansas City Chiefs. News, commentary, reports, and exclusive inside information - daily! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:23:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: BigJimInWisconsin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31878 BigJimInWisconsin Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:36:24 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31878 You guys might have a better memory than me. Tell me if the following is true. Gunther Cunningham was head coach for 2 years (true). He may have been 16-16 overall, but weren't the Chiefs 4-0 against the Raiders? You guys might have a better memory than me. Tell me if the following is true.

Gunther Cunningham was head coach for 2 years (true). He may have been 16-16 overall, but weren’t the Chiefs 4-0 against the Raiders?

]]> By: True Red & Gold http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31853 True Red & Gold Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:51:03 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31853 November 12, 2009 - ED says: Agreed gorillafan. Chiefs will continue to get better. "Continue", they haven't started yet. This team has regressed since the season started. It is hard to find (at this point) a single thing that looks even remotely better than last year. Haley and Pioli have one year to cry this team is not our fault. I don't mind giving them that. I am looking forward to seeing what they can get done with a full off season to work. November 12, 2009 – ED says:
Agreed gorillafan. Chiefs will continue to get better.

“Continue”, they haven’t started yet. This team has regressed since the season started. It is hard to find (at this point) a single thing that looks even remotely better than last year. Haley and Pioli have one year to cry this team is not our fault.

I don’t mind giving them that. I am looking forward to seeing what they can get done with a full off season to work.

]]> By: el cid http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31852 el cid Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:51:40 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31852 Mad Chief Sorry but that is so much garbage. Todd Haleys Chiefs won one game this year. There were years before Marty when the only win was Oakland. Yes the KC fans need a win for some degree of hope based on the c***p you, ED, and gorilla fan find so acceptable with hope for the future. I personnally do not think this team has a hope in h**l of winning based on what we have seen so far. But I still say we need this win. So quit kissing up to Haley, he does not read these blogs anyway. Mad Chief Sorry but that is so much garbage. Todd Haleys Chiefs won one game this year. There were years before Marty when the only win was Oakland. Yes the KC fans need a win for some degree of hope based on the c***p you, ED, and gorilla fan find so acceptable with hope for the future. I personnally do not think this team has a hope in h**l of winning based on what we have seen so far. But I still say we need this win. So quit kissing up to Haley, he does not read these blogs anyway.

]]> By: Mad Chief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31851 Mad Chief Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:23:36 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31851 el cid says: "it is not just another division game to us." We've won one game this year. The Raiders have won two. So, yes...it is basically just "another division game". If you remember...when we played the them earlier in the year, Haley talked about his dislike of the Raiders. Things being what they are right now, though...we just need a win. And not just a win, but to play well. For four quarters. Not just at the end of the game. Not for a quarter. Not for two. But, for all four quarters. No matter who we are playing. el cid says:

“it is not just another division game to us.”

We’ve won one game this year. The Raiders have won two. So, yes…it is basically just “another division game”.

If you remember…when we played the them earlier in the year, Haley talked about his dislike of the Raiders.

Things being what they are right now, though…we just need a win. And not just a win, but to play well. For four quarters. Not just at the end of the game. Not for a quarter. Not for two. But, for all four quarters. No matter who we are playing.

]]> By: BigJimInWisconsin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31850 BigJimInWisconsin Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:45:20 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31850 You guys have better memory than me. Tell me if this true. While Gunther went 16-16 during his 2 years as HC, wasn't he 4-0 against the Raiders? You guys have better memory than me. Tell me if this true. While Gunther went 16-16 during his 2 years as HC, wasn’t he 4-0 against the Raiders?

]]> By: He who bleeds red & gold http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31846 He who bleeds red & gold Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:43:15 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31846 I believe the Chiefs will surprise us this year. Really all they need is to play the way they play in the last few minutes of the game, say for 10 to 15 minutes more. Then we would have won 2 to 3 more games this year (Jax and Raiders at least). They're closer than we think to turning the corner of being a decent team. I believe the Chiefs will surprise us this year. Really all they need is to play the way they play in the last few minutes of the game, say for 10 to 15 minutes more. Then we would have won 2 to 3 more games this year (Jax and Raiders at least). They’re closer than we think to turning the corner of being a decent team.

]]> By: el cid http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31845 el cid Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:36:14 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31845 A little disappointed - Remember Vermiel and now Haley, either understood what the Raiders games mean to those in KC. Today his comment was that while a division opponent nothing special about game. It is a shame that knowledgeable football people get jobs in KC and have no idea what we are about. We NEED this win, it is not just another division game to us. A little disappointed – Remember Vermiel and now Haley, either understood what the Raiders games mean to those in KC. Today his comment was that while a division opponent nothing special about game. It is a shame that knowledgeable football people get jobs in KC and have no idea what we are about. We NEED this win, it is not just another division game to us.

]]> By: ED http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31844 ED Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:01:45 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31844 Agreed gorillafan. Chiefs will continue to get better. They just need to add more playmakers at receiver and get more talent along that offensive line. If they accomplish that this offseason they can be a .500 ball club next yr. Agreed gorillafan. Chiefs will continue to get better. They just need to add more playmakers at receiver and get more talent along that offensive line. If they accomplish that this offseason they can be a .500 ball club next yr.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31843 gorillafan Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:43:53 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31843 hmmmmmm lets see,franchise qb? new offense scheme? new defense scheme? thats a start, plus trying a ton of players to get this team talent level up. you have to have a good solid base BEFORE you build a foundation anyway dont you think? though its been more rough than any of us wanted, their trying there ass off and it will pay off, i just have a gut feeling we will be a good in the next 2 years. I havent felt that way in a few years, so im going to stick with it and stay positive hmmmmmm lets see,franchise qb? new offense scheme? new defense scheme?

thats a start, plus trying a ton of players to get this team talent level up.

you have to have a good solid base BEFORE you build a foundation anyway dont you think?

though its been more rough than any of us wanted, their trying there ass off and it will pay off, i just have a gut feeling we will be a good in the next 2 years. I havent felt that way in a few years, so im going to stick with it and stay positive

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31842 gorillafan Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:29:56 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31842 I agree Mad Chief, "THE GREAT ONE" has been negative through this 1st year for them. And no I dont agree with some plays haley does, but this team cant line up nose to nose and just whip the shit out of a team, we just arent good enough yet. so, if we need to try diff things and new players to get this thing going again and trial and error on things for the future, than so be it!!! If it was haleys 2nd or 3rd year, than I would be more worried I agree Mad Chief,

“THE GREAT ONE” has been negative through this 1st year for them. And no I dont agree with some plays haley does, but this team cant line up nose to nose and just whip the shit out of a team, we just arent good enough yet.

so, if we need to try diff things and new players to get this thing going again and trial and error on things for the future, than so be it!!!

If it was haleys 2nd or 3rd year, than I would be more worried

]]> By: Alexthe"GREAT" http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31841 Alexthe"GREAT" Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:26:18 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31841 No actually, I liked the guy. But after watching him thus far and his attitude, hes not ready 2 lead a group of men yet. If he changed his smug a** attitude and start believing half of the crap that spews out his mouth(not 2 metion win some games) then I would be his biggest supporter. Answer me this...What type of foundation is being laid for this year? Isnt that what u do in year 1? No actually, I liked the guy. But after watching him thus far and his attitude, hes not ready 2 lead a group of men yet. If he changed his smug a** attitude and start believing half of the crap that spews out his mouth(not 2 metion win some games) then I would be his biggest supporter. Answer me this…What type of foundation is being laid for this year? Isnt that what u do in year 1?

]]> By: Mad Chief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31839 Mad Chief Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:08:26 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31839 He may be making mistakes...and he does things I don't agree with. But, he's not TRYING to lose games. You've hated Haley ever since he got here. So no matter what, you're going to find fault with whatever he does. So, enjoy. He may be making mistakes…and he does things I don’t agree with. But, he’s not TRYING to lose games.

You’ve hated Haley ever since he got here. So no matter what, you’re going to find fault with whatever he does. So, enjoy.

]]> By: Alexthe"GREAT" http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31838 Alexthe"GREAT" Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:02:27 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31838 LMFAO......How else can u explain the bad play calling/terrible clock management/players off the street r starters/cutting young players/shotgun on the goaline/wildcat with no playmakers.....Haley says "We r looking for an identity"(translation) We are gonna sling s*** tell something sticks....lol..........yep we r trying 2 win alright! We should try slinging Haley and see if he sticks. LMFAO……How else can u explain the bad play calling/terrible clock management/players off the street r starters/cutting young players/shotgun on the goaline/wildcat with no playmakers…..Haley says “We r looking for an identity”(translation) We are gonna sling s*** tell something sticks….lol……….yep we r trying 2 win alright! We should try slinging Haley and see if he sticks.

]]> By: Mad Chief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31836 Mad Chief Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:20:12 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31836 Alexthe"GREAT" says: "Haley wont…they are tanking this season so they can get a bunch of high draft picks." Yeah...Haley and Pioli are losing on purpose, just to secure better draft picks. Be freakin' serious. Alexthe”GREAT” says:
“Haley wont…they are tanking this season so they can get a bunch of high draft picks.”

Yeah…Haley and Pioli are losing on purpose, just to secure better draft picks.

Be freakin’ serious.

]]> By: Alexthe"GREAT" http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31833 Alexthe"GREAT" Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:47:20 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31833 Haley wont...they are tanking this season so they can get a bunch of high draft picks. We all have a common sense view of how 2 win or atleast compete in a game and Haley does the opposite week in and week out. I just watch the games now 2 see the different facial expresssions Haley makes. Then I ask myself "I wonder whats going on this guys head.....maybe its a combination of the sound of a bee hive and classical music" Haley wont…they are tanking this season so they can get a bunch of high draft picks. We all have a common sense view of how 2 win or atleast compete in a game and Haley does the opposite week in and week out. I just watch the games now 2 see the different facial expresssions Haley makes. Then I ask myself “I wonder whats going on this guys head…..maybe its a combination of the sound of a bee hive and classical music”

]]> By: ThunderChief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31832 ThunderChief Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:44:54 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31832 Just wondering on the 3 vs 5 step drops and a nod to Chiefs distant history. Whatever happened to the Hank Stram moving pocket scheme? Has it been rendered useless with the increased speed of modern defenders? Today's QBs 'roll out' from time to time but I've not seen the Oline move in tandem with them, or have I missed something. Final thought: What's old is sometimes new again. Could the 'moving pocket' be yet another example of this? Then too, is Haley a bright enough student of history to consider or implement such a strategy? I'm not the typical fan nor, in my view, is Bob Gretz the typical web site or blog creator. Comments? Just wondering on the 3 vs 5 step drops and a nod to Chiefs distant history. Whatever happened to the Hank Stram moving pocket scheme?

Has it been rendered useless with the increased speed of modern defenders? Today’s QBs ‘roll out’ from time to time but I’ve not seen the Oline move in tandem with them, or have I missed something.

Final thought: What’s old is sometimes new again. Could the ‘moving pocket’ be yet another example of this? Then too, is Haley a bright enough student of history to consider or implement such a strategy?

I’m not the typical fan nor, in my view, is Bob Gretz the typical web site or blog creator. Comments?

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31831 gorillafan Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:37:09 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31831 colby, I usually agree with ya, but imo we havent been going down field because cassel gets murdered as soon as hes done with a 5 step drop. I think a good running percentage of plays and quick passes will help cassel get more time, than he can go down field. regardless, we need to do better at all phases and I think we can do some good this weekend colby, I usually agree with ya, but imo we havent been going down field because cassel gets murdered as soon as hes done with a 5 step drop.

I think a good running percentage of plays and quick passes will help cassel get more time, than he can go down field.

regardless, we need to do better at all phases and I think we can do some good this weekend

]]> By: colby http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31830 colby Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:07:20 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31830 The Raiders run D sucks. Even LJ put up 78 on them earlier this year! Haley needs to be committed to running the ball whether it's Charles, Smith, Savage, or a combination of the three. Those three need to combine for 30 carries. If that happens I like our chances of winning! Also, MORE DOWNFIELD THROWS! Let Chambers and Bowe go up for the ball and make plays! The Raiders run D sucks. Even LJ put up 78 on them earlier this year! Haley needs to be committed to running the ball whether it’s Charles, Smith, Savage, or a combination of the three. Those three need to combine for 30 carries. If that happens I like our chances of winning! Also, MORE DOWNFIELD THROWS! Let Chambers and Bowe go up for the ball and make plays!

]]> By: alex k http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31829 alex k Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:24:18 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31829 should win? after losing one we shouldve won to them last time...this is a MUST win.. should win? after losing one we shouldve won to them last time…this is a MUST win..

]]> By: ThunderChief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/practice-report-1112.html#comment-31828 ThunderChief Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:28:41 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11550#comment-31828 Skinny on LBs for Raiduh week unless Vrabel recovers in time. Good to see Belcher and Chambers back among the active participants. This is a game the Chiefs could and probably SHOULD win and might have an impact on how the rest of the season will unfold. Key contest in the efforts to help the ongoing turnaround. Skinny on LBs for Raiduh week unless Vrabel recovers in time. Good to see Belcher and Chambers back among the active participants.

This is a game the Chiefs could and probably SHOULD win and might have an impact on how the rest of the season will unfold. Key contest in the efforts to help the ongoing turnaround.

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