Comments on: Position Review: Tight End http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html Dedicated to providing the best coverage of the Kansas City Chiefs. News, commentary, reports, and exclusive inside information - daily! Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:23:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: colby http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21841 colby Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:09:32 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21841 Good question Anon. Sounds like a big mauler to me. Good question Anon. Sounds like a big mauler to me.

]]> By: Anon http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21840 Anon Thu, 30 Jul 2009 04:05:07 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21840 How is 6-5 260 the size of an H-back? How is 6-5 260 the size of an H-back?

]]> By: colby http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21837 colby Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:05:03 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21837 Just a prediction (like everything else is this time of year) but I can't see Cottam grabbing more than 25 catches this year. He'll be asked to block for the most part and will probably line up outside of McIntosh who has trouble with speed rushers. I know Chan is calling the plays, but I think Haley wants less emphasis on the TE and more emphasis on RBs and WRs who actually have some speed. As of today, my reception break down prediction would be Bowe 80 Engram 50 Bradley 40 (he's bound to miss some games) Charles 40 Cottam 25 LJ 25 That's 260 catches. Whoever else makes the team is too up in the air for me to speculate at this point but I think there'll be another 100 or so catches by the rest. Kolby? O'Connell? Darling? Just a prediction (like everything else is this time of year) but I can’t see Cottam grabbing more than 25 catches this year. He’ll be asked to block for the most part and will probably line up outside of McIntosh who has trouble with speed rushers. I know Chan is calling the plays, but I think Haley wants less emphasis on the TE and more emphasis on RBs and WRs who actually have some speed. As of today, my reception break down prediction would be

Bowe 80
Engram 50
Bradley 40 (he’s bound to miss some games)
Charles 40
Cottam 25
LJ 25

That’s 260 catches. Whoever else makes the team is too up in the air for me to speculate at this point but I think there’ll be another 100 or so catches by the rest. Kolby? O’Connell? Darling?

]]> By: ED http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21830 ED Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:39:52 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21830 Bottom line Cottom is no Tony Gonzalez, but so are most tight ends that come into this league. As far as Cottom goes he's got good speed for a tight end of his size. I watched every single Chiefs game this season as painful as it was, but the few games Cottom played in he looked preety athletic. He's definately got a little more speed than Tony. He's no Gonzalez but I think if he can improve his route running and his hands he can be a solid weapon on offense with that big body of his. Bottom line Cottom is no Tony Gonzalez, but so are most tight ends that come into this league. As far as Cottom goes he’s got good speed for a tight end of his size. I watched every single Chiefs game this season as painful as it was, but the few games Cottom played in he looked preety athletic. He’s definately got a little more speed than Tony. He’s no Gonzalez but I think if he can improve his route running and his hands he can be a solid weapon on offense with that big body of his.

]]> By: azchieffn http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21828 azchieffn Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:18:05 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21828 4 wins 4 wins

]]> By: Adrian W. http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21826 Adrian W. Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:58:45 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21826 Alright, so here's a minor error in the article: "Tom Crabtree (undrafted rookie/48 games at Miami of Ohio/40 receptions, 3329 yards, 2 TDs.)" I would like to point out that this BACKUP from Miami of Ohio averaged a ASTOUNDING 83.3 yards a catch. And he only got 2 touchdowns? I KNEW we picked him up for a reason. Just messin' around. But that was good for a laugh, for sure. Alright, so here’s a minor error in the article:

“Tom Crabtree (undrafted rookie/48 games at Miami of Ohio/40 receptions, 3329 yards, 2 TDs.)”

I would like to point out that this BACKUP from Miami of Ohio averaged a ASTOUNDING 83.3 yards a catch.

And he only got 2 touchdowns?

I KNEW we picked him up for a reason.

Just messin’ around. But that was good for a laugh, for sure.

]]> By: get real http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21819 get real Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:55:52 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21819 Cottam is the supposed future at TE. I am ok with that but I see him as more a Jason Dunn rather than Tony G. JT says he will be dangerous in the red zone, maybe if he is carrying a gun. There is no track record on him. He is fast, during a game? 40 to 50 catches, hope so, I guess he could be better as a pro than a college athlete. We had all better hope he or one of the other TE step up or Cassel may see most of the game from the seat of his pant. Engram and Bradley being something special is just plain scary, why would you say that? Cottam is the supposed future at TE. I am ok with that but I see him as more a Jason Dunn rather than Tony G. JT says he will be dangerous in the red zone, maybe if he is carrying a gun. There is no track record on him. He is fast, during a game? 40 to 50 catches, hope so, I guess he could be better as a pro than a college athlete. We had all better hope he or one of the other TE step up or Cassel may see most of the game from the seat of his pant. Engram and Bradley being something special is just plain scary, why would you say that?

]]> By: Rip 'em a new one http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21817 Rip 'em a new one Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:50:06 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21817 Scott, That's an excellent way to disagree. My compliments on that. As to the Chiefs? I've been following this team for many decades, have exercised as much patience as most anyone and now? I'm going Howard Beal on them and let it rip until I see genuine evidence of a turnaround. For all those who see it differently? That's cool. Scott,

That’s an excellent way to disagree. My compliments on that. As to the Chiefs?

I’ve been following this team for many decades, have exercised as much patience as most anyone and now? I’m going Howard Beal on them and let it rip until I see genuine evidence of a turnaround.

For all those who see it differently? That’s cool.

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21816 Jim Lloyd+ Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:38:59 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21816 Wy do these fools go to all the trouble of suiting up and playing any games if the outcome is known? If I was a player on this team---------- I think I would feel perty good and looking to make every effort I could to get this messhing. Most team's , every year have thouble with the first half of the season. As a player I would be so thrilled to this huge change in coaching and some high level talent showing up . I would bust my ass to give it chance. PAPER IS FOR THE BATHROOM TO BE FLUSHED~ All those close games last year for no other reason than no one was really in shape. When every one get's in shape it's different ! Wy do these fools go to all the trouble of suiting up and playing any games if the outcome is known?
If I was a player on this team———- I think I would feel perty good and looking to make every effort I could to get this messhing.
Most team’s , every year have thouble with the first half of the season.
As a player I would be so thrilled to this huge change in coaching and some high level talent showing up . I would bust my ass to give it chance.
PAPER IS FOR THE BATHROOM TO BE FLUSHED~
All those close games last year for no other reason than no one was really in shape.
When every one get’s in shape it’s different !

]]> By: Scott http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21815 Scott Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:38:28 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21815 Okay...so I was only HALF right. Okay…so I was only HALF right.

]]> By: anonymous http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21813 anonymous Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:25:48 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21813 Scott and Josh shared the same mother like everyone else. Scott and Josh shared the same mother like everyone else.

]]> By: Scott http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21811 Scott Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:13:48 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21811 Rip 'em, I disagree with pretty much everything you said...and usually do. But I do respect your opinions, and the way you present them. Just wanted to throw that out there. Now I'm sure someone is going to hijack my name and say something stupid for the umpteeth time today. Rin...you're up. Rip ‘em,

I disagree with pretty much everything you said…and usually do.

But I do respect your opinions, and the way you present them. Just wanted to throw that out there.

Now I’m sure someone is going to hijack my name and say something stupid for the umpteeth time today. Rin…you’re up.

]]> By: findthedr http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21810 findthedr Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:58:31 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21810 "he showed good hand." me luv you long time. “he showed good hand.”

me luv you long time.

]]> By: Rip 'em a new one http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21809 Rip 'em a new one Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:57:53 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21809 There's the 'on paper' gambit where fans and sportswriters avidly speculate about the best case scenarios or go on past performances to gauge the success of their team leading into a new season. You've seen those, maybe even, participated in a couple? Most all of the 'on paper' comments and discussions are based on best case scenarios. What about a realty show type 'on paper' as one pores over this Chief's roster of broken dreams, recycled vets and blue sky hopes? So, contestant #1 is up, that being Rip 'em a new one and he has to say: "On paper, this team SUCKS swamp water. It's going to take a miracle to get all these loose parts to come together to form anything to resemble a cohesive team. On paper, it looks as if GM Pioli has a guaranteed contract that will pay him regardless for several years into the future, so why the rush to turn this around? On paper it also appears Pioli was not the wunderkind of the Pats, with that title still resting with Belichick who painfully schooled us in this past 2009 draft with a strobe/laser light driving rock concert performance that would make AC/DC envious, while, Pioli treated Chief's fans to a Jonas Brothers type draft." And, on paper, that felt good to get out of one's system. There’s the ‘on paper’ gambit where fans and sportswriters avidly speculate about the best case scenarios or go on past performances to gauge the success of their team leading into a new season. You’ve seen those, maybe even, participated in a couple?

Most all of the ‘on paper’ comments and discussions are based on best case scenarios. What about a realty show type ‘on paper’ as one pores over this Chief’s roster of broken dreams, recycled vets and blue sky hopes?

So, contestant #1 is up, that being Rip ‘em a new one and he has to say:

“On paper, this team SUCKS swamp water. It’s going to take a miracle to get all these loose parts to come together to form anything to resemble a cohesive team.

On paper, it looks as if GM Pioli has a guaranteed contract that will pay him regardless for several years into the future, so why the rush to turn this around? On paper it also appears Pioli was not the wunderkind of the Pats, with that title still resting with Belichick who painfully schooled us in this past 2009 draft with a strobe/laser light driving rock concert performance that would make AC/DC envious, while, Pioli treated Chief’s fans to a Jonas Brothers type draft.”

And, on paper, that felt good to get out of one’s system.

]]> By: JT http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21805 JT Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:18:31 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21805 Cottam could be very dangerous in the red zone. It will be interesting to show are recievers respond this season. Maybe we can have the next "Marks Brothers" combo in Bradley and Engram. This will be a complete team without Gonzalez. Players like Jamal Charles, Quentin Lawrence, I think they will all be contributers. Is it September yet? GO CHIEFS!!!!! Cottam could be very dangerous in the red zone. It will be interesting to show are recievers respond this season. Maybe we can have the next “Marks Brothers” combo in Bradley and Engram. This will be a complete team without Gonzalez. Players like Jamal Charles, Quentin Lawrence, I think they will all be contributers. Is it September yet? GO CHIEFS!!!!!

]]> By: Scott http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21800 Scott Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:51:33 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21800 My name is Sue. How do you do. My name is Sue. How do you do.

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21798 Jim Lloyd+ Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:46:08 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21798 That's my real name ? - Suppersillieous That’s my real name ?

- Suppersillieous

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21793 Rin Tin Tin Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:27:38 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21793 "a huge run on season ticket’s" - Lysergic acid diethylamide “a huge run on season ticket’s”

- Lysergic acid diethylamide

]]> By: alex k http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21787 alex k Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:05:04 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21787 I feel Cottam can be a 40-50 catch guy that blocks very very well...of course he has to stay healthy, but he showed that teams cant just ignore the guy, hes big, hes fast...not going to be a Tony G, maybe 35-40 receptions is more like it, but hes one good blocker. I feel Cottam can be a 40-50 catch guy that blocks very very well…of course he has to stay healthy, but he showed that teams cant just ignore the guy, hes big, hes fast…not going to be a Tony G, maybe 35-40 receptions is more like it, but hes one good blocker.

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21784 Jim Lloyd+ Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:58:50 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21784 John Czarnecki say's " Some one told me the other day that the Bronco's internally believe they can win 10 games this season, but when I checked their schedule I didn't see them playing KC or OAK 10 times this season." Sure KC lost Tony , but he was becomming a stand out as playing unfair and was drawing BAD call's and at level of not just a few. Some team's took huge avantage of this and it cost KC more than two win's on close game's last season, they would talk to the REF.'s before almost every game. When and if you are throwing half of your passes to one reciever and he is being over watched,and called for slight touches that NO ONE get's hammered for . Then you have someone making the unfair call's that dosen't have to worry about a coach doing no more than just standing there, like he dosen't know what to do!!! It's almost better that last season went the way it did--- because it has inspired everyone from Clark Kent ( the NOT so mild mannered Chief's owner ) on down , to kick thing's into gear ---- because a little HIGH performance will start a huge run on season ticket's, as it has in year's past. John Czarnecki say’s ” Some one told me the other day that the Bronco’s internally believe they can win 10 games this season, but when I checked their schedule I didn’t see them playing KC or OAK 10 times this season.”
Sure KC lost Tony , but he was becomming a stand out as playing unfair and was drawing BAD call’s and at level of not just a few. Some team’s took huge avantage of this and it cost KC more than two win’s on close game’s last season, they would talk to the REF.’s before almost every game.
When and if you are throwing half of your passes to one reciever and he is being over watched,and called for slight touches that NO ONE get’s hammered for .
Then you have someone making the unfair call’s that dosen’t have to worry about a coach doing no more than just standing there, like he dosen’t know what to do!!!
It’s almost better that last season went the way it did— because it has inspired everyone from Clark Kent ( the NOT so mild mannered Chief’s owner ) on down , to kick thing’s into gear —- because a little HIGH performance will start a huge run on season ticket’s, as it has in year’s past.

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21780 Rin Tin Tin Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:48:55 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21780 Real Rin ® :cool: daddy-o sez By the way Fred Arbanas 'was' Pro Bowl 5 out of his 6 seasons as Chiefs TE; the other 4 years later in his career he was slated to become an OT due to his great (unlike a Gonzalez) blocking ability but lack of replacement players progress and injury too made it a necessity to move Fred back to TE. He was the best, ever, without question. :lol: Real Rin ® :cool: daddy-o sez

By the way Fred Arbanas ‘was’ Pro Bowl 5 out of his 6 seasons as Chiefs TE; the other 4 years later in his career he was slated to become an OT due to his great (unlike a Gonzalez) blocking ability but lack of replacement players progress and injury too made it a necessity to move Fred back to TE.

He was the best, ever, without question.

:lol:

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21779 Rin Tin Tin Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:44:05 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21779 Real Rin ® :cool: daddy-o sez No Fred Arbanas - best TE in Chiefs history - be on the roster, but several who can match Tony Gonzalez appears... :lol: Real Rin ® :cool: daddy-o sez

No Fred Arbanas – best TE in Chiefs history – be on the roster, but several who can match Tony Gonzalez appears…

:lol:

]]> By: get real http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21775 get real Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:29:31 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21775 Arbanas is best. He could block and catch, a complete player who did not need to be the all star. Different era sure but a special Chief. The current TEs look like a bunch of guys. Hope one of them can really block. I doubt any will be the man in the red zone. Arbanas is best. He could block and catch, a complete player who did not need to be the all star. Different era sure but a special Chief.

The current TEs look like a bunch of guys. Hope one of them can really block. I doubt any will be the man in the red zone.

]]> By: anonymous http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21774 anonymous Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:24:55 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21774 Curtis blew a block on a punt and it was blocked, the punter ended up injured. That's why the Cowboys made no effort to resign him. Curtis blew a block on a punt and it was blocked, the punter ended up injured. That’s why the Cowboys made no effort to resign him.

]]> By: Josh http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/position-review-tight-end.html#comment-21773 Josh Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:15:52 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9658#comment-21773 Maybe Rin could talk Fred Arbanas into coming back? Maybe Rin could talk Fred Arbanas into coming back?

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