Please, Less Kool-Aid … Tuesday Cup O’Chiefs

It’s been a remarkable turnaround in just a few months for the Kansas City Chiefs. There seems to have been a seismic shift in outlook for the franchise and the 2010 season.

Suddenly, the team coming off a 4-12 season, a club that has won 10 games in the last three seasons – the worst three-year stretch in franchise history – is now being talked about in terms of winning eight, nine, even 10 games.

The drinkers of “The Chiefs Are Really Improved Kool-Aid” say in year two of Pioli/Haley that the fortunes of the Hunt Family franchise have finally turned back to contender, back where the organization was for so many of the years between 1989 and 2006.

The glass is not just half-full these days among some fans, TV hairdos and sports talk yakkers. It’s overflowing. They have completely bought in to the new trio managing the team, that group includes chairman Clark Hunt who got this whole messy rebuilding started when he pulled the chain a year early on Carl Peterson.

Quite naturally it’s the time of year when all fans of all NFL teams hold hope that their favorite club can turn things around; that they can go from contender to champion, from pretender to contender or from bottom of the barrel to pretender status. That kind of enthusiasm is normal at this time of the year.

But let’s inject some reality here and let me ask these questions – just what have Pioli and Haley accomplished since they walked in the door in January-February 2009? Just how are the Chiefs a significantly better team, or a better organization? To win 10 games, they would have to be quite a bit improved from the teams that lost 38 of the last 48 games.

Right now, some two days away from the first practice of 2010 training camp the Chiefs are not significantly better than they were at the end of the 2008 season. Line up the best players on the current roster and almost all of them were in house when Pioli/Haley walked in the door – Jamaal Charles, Brandon Flowers, Branden Albert, Tamba Hali, Dwayne Bowe, Dustin Colquitt, Brian Waters and Brandon Carr. Almost all of those players were products of the drafts staged by Peterson, Herm Edwards and Bill Kuharich, all now banished from the building. Some have developed into more consistent performers. Others have not.

What significant talent has been added to that core? Mike Vrabel, Thomas Jones, Ryan Lilja – all nice NFL players, but all except Lilja are 30 or older and on the back end of their careers. As we saw last year with Mike Goff and Bobby Engram, those types of players can hit the wall suddenly and they become older bodies taking up a roster spot.

Leonard Pope, Chris Chambers, Ryan O’Callaghan, Corey Mays, Jerheme Urban – all are serviceable players, but none has brought an infusion of great talent to the team. With the exception of K Ryan Succop, the ’09 class in the NFL Draft has been a non-starter. I’m not about to throw that group out after just 16 games, but just who among them showed enough to convince us they can be big-time contributors this season?

And there’s QB Matt Cassel. Is he a talented NFL quarterback? Yes. Is he good enough to lead an offense and a team to victories and trips to the post-season? We don’t know that yet. Last year, his play was a marginal improvement over the production of Tyler Thigpen in the 2008 season; in fact Thigpen’s numbers were better in average per attempt, TD passes, interceptions, long pass play and passer rating. With his pedigree and his contract, Cassel must produce and it must come now. (More on Cassel coming on Thursday.)

It seems that the current optimism among many fans and media types is built on three foundations: 1.) Peterson is gone so all is right with the world because he screwed everything up, 2.) the additions of Charlie Weis and Romeo Crennel give the Chiefs their best group of coordinators in many seasons, and 3.) the 2010 class from the NFL Draft is going to be immediate contributors. Oh and there’s another reason: 4.) Arrowhead Stadium has had a face lift and that has to help the team in the coming season.

Let’s toss out No. 1 and 4 because they have far more to do with perception than reality. Two coaches and seven players are supposedly going to push the Chiefs back into the hunt for a spot in the playoffs.

Weis and Crennel are certainly upgrades over what the Chiefs had last year in those positions – Haley and Clancy Pendergast. But is Weis an upgrade over Chan Gailey, the man that Haley fired just 10 days before the regular season opener last year? That’s a disputable point, while Gailey may not have as many Super Bowl rings in his drawer as Weis, he’s has a career record directing productive offenses that is among the best in the game. That’s why the Buffalo Bills hired him to be their head coach. Haley did not fire him because he wasn’t any good; he sent him home because they couldn’t agree on an offensive approach.

Nobody ever quite figured out what Pendergast was doing with the Chiefs defense last year, especially those guys that were on the field. Crennel brings a “been-there, done that” defensive presence that is without a doubt an upgrade from ’09 and even ’08 with Gunther Cunningham. If Edwards had not been fired, it would have been interesting to see if Cunningham returned as defensive coordinator. There’s no question the two men were operating on different pages. They tried to blend the cover two that was so much of Edwards’ background with Cunningham’s beliefs in attacking on defense. The Chiefs did not have a personality on defense and thus they got nothing done. The sense is that would have been different in ’09, but we never got to see what might have happened.

Given a chance to fix the defense last year, the Chiefs didn’t get it done again. Is Crennel the answer? He’d better be, because there hasn’t been an infusion of talented and experienced players on that side of the ball to significantly lift the level of play.

Essentially the belief that the Chiefs are better and on the verge of becoming a contender comes down to the ’10 draft and the additions of S Eric Berry, WR Dexter McCluster, CB Javier Arenas, TE Tony Moeaki, C/G Jon Asamoah, S Kendrick Lewis and LB Cameron Sheffield.

On paper, I agree with the optimism concerning the draft picks – I too think the Chiefs grabbed some talented players. However, nobody has ever won an NFL game on paper. Reality tells me this – with so many rookies having to step forward and make big contributions in their first taste of pro football, there are going to be disappointments. Asking a half-dozen rookies to come in and make the difference between four victories and eight is quite a tall order.

The trouble spots from last year’s 4-12 team have not been adequately addressed. Maybe McCluster can elevate a very weak receiver position, but that’s asking a lot from the young man. What’s been done to improve the defense against the run? What has been done to improve the anemic pass rush? How does adding Lilja significantly improve an offensive line that struggled at times last year?

For this team to reach the heights that are being projected by the Kool-Aid drinkers there must be big improvements from within, by players returning to the team from last season. Guys like Niswanger, O’Callaghan, Albert, Bowe, Dorsey, Jackson, Studebaker, Belcher, Lokey and Gilberry have to improve productivity and consistency and do it at high levels.

Don’t take this as an attempt to rain on the Chiefs 2010 parade. I realize some of this over-enthusiasm comes from fans tired of waiting. Those folks running around using the words 2010 playoffs in the same sentence with the 2010 Chiefs have lost perspective and patience and those remain two characteristics that every fan of the red and gold most possess in buckets.

Are the Chiefs better than they were at the end of the 2008 season? Maybe, maybe not. When Clark Hunt decided to sweep the decks clean, it signaled a major rebuilding job, after one had already started under Edwards. Coming into the situation Pioli/Haley needed time to return the Chiefs to contender status. They weren’t going to be able to do it all in one or two years. That time is not now.

Thankfully, training camp is almost here and there will be less talking and more doing on the field where it counts. On Friday when practice starts, it’s only Gatorade in the cups, not Kool-Aid.


He was one of the most reviled figures in professional football in the 1970s. Known as “The Assassin” Oakland Raiders safety Jack Tatum passed away on Tuesday in Columbus, Ohio. He was 61 years old. Tatum made his name during his 10-year career with big hits on receivers coming across the middle. It was his hit on Darryl Stingley in 1978 that left the New England wide receiver paralyzed and in a wheelchair for the rest of his life.

Tatum finished up with one season in Houston (1980), where he had seven interceptions at the age of 32 years. Over his career, he finished with 37 interceptions, six of those coming against the Chiefs.

Here’s a link to a good story about Tatum by a former Raiders beat writer. And, here’s a You Tube file on Tatum and some of his biggest hits.


  • BENGALS – signed WR Terrell Owens to a 1-year, $2 million contract, with another $2 million in possible incentives – bad boy wide receiver finally finds a home, the fifth team in his career; signed 3rd-round draft choice WR Jordan Shipley to a 4-year, $2,540,000 contract with a $756,000 signing bonus – an All-America receiver at Texas, he should help immediately as a return man in the kicking game; signed 4th-round draft choice LB Roddrick Muckelroy to a 4-year, $2,210,000 contract with $425,000 in a signing bonus – at Texas he was second-team All-Big 12 and the Longhorns leading tackler. Suffered broken hand in OTA sessions
  • BRONCOS – signed 2nd-round draft choice OL Zane Beadles to a 4-year, $4,200,000 contract with $2.7 million in guaranteed money – a left tackle at Utah, he’ll compete at left guard for playing time in Denver; released LB Bruce Davis and DL Chris Marinelli– Davis was former ’08 draft choice of the Steelers and Marinelli an undrafted rookie out of Stanford.
  • BUCCANEERS – signed 2nd-round draft choice WR Arrelious Benn to a 4-year, $3,950,000 contract with $2.85 million in guaranteed money – Illinois product should make his way right into the Tampa Bay starting lineup.
  • CARDINALS – signed 4th-round draft choice OLB O’Brien Schofield to a 4-year, $2,650,000 contract with a $430,000 signing bonus – coming out of Wisconsin, he tore an ACL during a Senior Bowl practice and has been rehabbing ever since.
  • DOLPHINS – signed K Dan Carpenter to a 3-year contract extension that will keep him under contract through the 2013 season. His deal is now worth $6,675,000.
  • EAGLES – agreed to terms with 2nd-round draft choice S Nate Allen on a 4-year contract, terms undisclosed – he’ll get to training camp as the starter at one of Philadelphia’s safety spots.
  • PACKERS – restricted free agent S Atari Bigby signed the tender offer he received back in February and will report to training camp on time – it’s a 1-year deal for $1,759,000.
  • PATRIOTS – placedWR Wes Welker on the PUP list due to a knee injury. He can be activated at any time, but until then he cannot take part in practices.
  • RAMS – signed 6th-round draft choice TE Fendi Onobun to a 4-year, $1,918,000 contract with a $128,821 signing bonus – former basketball player at the University of Arizona, he played one year of football at the University of Houston. Raw TE prospect with great athletic skills.
  • RAVENS – placed 10 players on the physically unable to perform list – S Ed Reed (hip), LB Brendon Ayanbadejo (quad), NT Terrence Cody (failed conditioning test), CB Walt Harris (failed conditioning test), OT Oriel Cousins (throat), CB Lardarius Webb (knee), CB Fabian
    Washington (knee), WR Rodelin Anthony (knee) and CB Prince Miller (undisclosed).
  • TEXANS – 15-year veteran DB Aaron Glenn will announce his retirement on Wednesday, after signing a one-day contract with Houston; signed 4th-round draft choice TE Garrett Graham to a 4-year, $2,270,000 contract – the Wisconsin product faces a crowded TE field.
  • VIKINGS – signed 4th-round draft choice DE Everson Griffen to a 4-year contract, terms undisclosed – out of Southern Cal, he was considered a first-round prospect until a sub-par senior season.

30 Responses to “Please, Less Kool-Aid … Tuesday Cup O’Chiefs”

  • July 28, 2010  - aPauled says:

    Why are the Chiefs better in 2010 than 2008? If nothing else addition by subtraction. Gone are the lost on game day and take no responsibility all week coach Herm Edwards, lady’s (watchout) man Larry Johnson, swinging gate RT Damion McIntosh, RG Adrian Jones, DL Tank and Turk, LB Pat Thomas. That team wasn’t good and had no growth path. We were running a gimmick Offense and a mis-aligned Defense. The direction is now evident even though we are still several players away. These guys seem to have the right attitude and a desire to play hard. Lastly, the carryover of the big win in Denver last season is still pushing the optimism of what can be with this team.

  • July 28, 2010  - Michael says:

    Bob’s assessment is nothing that hasn’t already been beaten to death on here over this off-season. I think we all know what has to happen this year for this team to really improve. I’ve heard some people getting a bit carried away. They say, hey this team might be able to go 7-9 or 8-8 and, wow, if you make that it’s not that far off from 9-7 or 10-6, and next thing you know you’re in the playoffs.

    I’m not anywhere near ready to say anything like that. I’m optimistic, I like a lot of things I’ve seen so far, but I want to see how camp goes.

  • July 28, 2010  - Tenand6 says:

    “Kool-aid” assumes someone has arrived at a decision based upon what they have been told. I have watched the 2009 games numerous times in the off season. There was noticeable improvement in the second half of the season. J. Charles was the hook for a brilliant play-caller—-Haley. Why do I say Haley is a brilliant play-caller? I watched the AZ Cardinals games when they went to the Super Bowl. This is why he says he will be working with Charlie Weis. Haley is a brilliant play-caller and he knows it.

    On offense, I think the Chiefs will drop fewer passes this year. Call me crazy. I think the running game is solid— assuming Brian Waters is healthy and improved. If not, I assume he’ll be replaced. The line will be at least as good as it was the second half of ’09— that’s not a leap. McCluster is what a play caller like Weis needs to keep a defense on its heels. I have seen tape of McCluster. I get it. TE is in better shape to start the season than last year.

    Special teams had one weakness last year— a returner. Problem solved. Again, call me crazy, but I’ve seen Arenas and McCluster. Berry or Charles if there are injuries. Our Special Teams will be one of the better units in the NFL this year. That will help both offense and defense. We also have built the bottom of the roster and the talent improvement will also help Special Teams.

    Defense is a real concern. Our secondary will be better and that is saying something. I’ve watched tape on Berry. By my eyes, Belcher and DJ will start and be an improvement over Mayes and Williams. Williams will be a good back up. I think the Chiefs should be on the hunt for another ILB. No guarantees of that, but I think they’ll see some improvement from current players. The defensive line may only be marginally better. TJ worries me. I wonder if he’ll end up playing some NT just to get more time out of him. I like Gilberry and Magee better than TJ right now and that’s not a good sign. NT will be a problem again this year. We do have a better coordinator and E. Thomas is an upgrade.

    The schedule is easier. I hope thousands of Chiefs fans drink the Kool-aid and show up at Arrowhead. A large crowd would help this young, improving team.

    After watching tape, reading this site, thinking about our draft, our division and our schedule, I expect no less than an 8-8 season. I think they’ll finish 9-7.

  • July 28, 2010  - BHodson says:

    Why are is there Kool-Aid to drink…

    Miami Dolphins 2007: 1-15 2008: 11-5

    This happens all the time in the NFL; that’s why!

  • July 28, 2010  - MB says:

    Gotta agree with you on many points. I, for one expect better D-Line play with the continued development of Dorsey and Jackson. I also believe that the interior of the Defense will be addressed next off season. As for playoffs? 2011 in the hunt for a wildcard, 2012 we NEED to win the division.

  • July 28, 2010  - Ed says:

    I’ll take my in Strawberry please.

    After all these years of SUCK, everybody is looking for any glimmer of hope.

  • July 28, 2010  - Adrian says:

    Well, I’m glad we didn’t bite on Mt. Cody in the draft.

  • July 28, 2010  - arrowhead1978 says:

    tenand6… You do realize all of the game tape you have watched is from college?? Not in the NFL where every player is smarter than the college counterpart, they didn’t get here by being a dummy. Really all of the college game tape out there doesn’t justify saying we have the answers at all the positions. Like with Berry, he may come in and become just a guy, there is no guarantees…

  • July 28, 2010  - Justin D says:


    I agree with most of what you detailed but still have concerns about the o-line and Lilja. Is he ok? Gotta wait and see. Even if Cassel has more weapons it will still be hard to complete passes if rushed or on his back every snap or if defense greets the ball carrier in the backfield. Perhaps I am spoiled by our o-lines of the past.

  • July 28, 2010  - Tenand6 says:

    My underlying point is that I believe the Chiefs will show real improvement based upon what I have concluded after devoting (too much?) time to looking at the Chiefs from a variety of perspectives. As a HUGE Bob Gretz fan, my point was that those on this board probably aren’t Kool-aid drinkers, but serious Chiefs fans who reach conclusions (we may be wrong) by processing information, not simply consuming it without a filter. I didn’t like the Herm Edwards hire. The Chiefs wanted me to. My friends wanted me to. On my own, I thought it was a bad hire.

    I like the Haley hire. The media didn’t want me to like it. Many of my friends didn’t want me to like it. On my own (based upon working with personalities similar to Haley and watching his offense in AZ, I thought it was a good hire.

    BTW, after talking to Bob Kraft recently, I like the Pioli hire even more. He wasn’t serving Kool Aid, either.

  • July 28, 2010  - RW in the ATL says:

    I agree with Bob’s overall assessment. He was also spot on about the 2009 team in his comments on the talent or lack thereof on that roster. There is something to be said on the topic of team chemistry, summed up nicely by Rich Gannon on his Sirius show. Paraphrasing, Rich said:

    “I was on a team that went 13-3 but got beat in the first round of the playoffs. The next year, we added a few guys but the chemistry of the locker room changed for the worse and we went 9-7. Don’t ever underestimate the value of having guys all on the same page.”

    So, with the draft and coaching additions, this 2010 Chiefs team may surprise and overachieve. Then again, they might just be a little better than 2009 based on the roster talent. I’m hoping for the former but expecting the latter.

  • July 28, 2010  - jmcgoblue says:

    Bob, all your points are valid, but there are still a lot of reasons for optimism.

    As others have pointed out, the schedule is, on paper, much easier than last season. Not just the opponents but also the sequence.

    The vast majority of the players on the team are in the ascending portion of their careers. Certainly there are no guarantees, but it’s not a leap of faith to believe that Flowers, Carr, Dorsey, T. Jackson, Albert, Charles, Belcher & other role players will be better. In fact, the only starters who I’d expect to see some decline from would be Waters, Vrable, Chambers and Thomas Jones (though I really believe he’s not going to be a big part of the offense anyway). Waters and Chambers are the keys there, if both of those guys fall off it could be a major problem. Ron Edwards could also fall off & that would be bad, but sharing snaps with Smith should help. Poor safety play was the catalyst for so many big plays given up, and is there any doubt that’s going to be improved with Berry replacing Brown?

    I say that at a minimum this team should win 7 games, baring significant injuries to key players (specifically Cassel, Charles, Flowers & Hali). And call me a Kool-Aid drinker if you want, but I think that with some luck the team could win 10 or 11 games. The big problem is that the team doesn’t have much margin for error. Teams like Indy SD & NE have the firepower to overcome a few mistakes, teams like KC don’t. If the team can avoid these blunders it could be a fun season.

  • July 28, 2010  - COCHIEF says:

    For the most part, I agree with Bob’s assessment. At the same time, I feel that the Chiefs are definitely moving in the right direction and should be improved. Given this and the easier schedule, I still don’t see more than 6 or 7 wins this year. I believe we are a year or two away from title contention. But I am optimistic about the future.

  • July 28, 2010  - CosmicPal says:

    I agree with much of what Bob says in that most of the improvement has come from rookies or “unproven” players and a new coaching staff. Don’t forget that some of the new assistant coaches on our staff are a pretty good upgrade as well.

    I think the key is not only the rookies, but some of the the second-third-fourth year players continuing to improve.

    Honestly though, my enthusiasm for this team isn’t so much this season, but the many seasons to come- this is a very young, fresh team with some very good talent. I’m looking forward to the next few seasons.

    And lastly, another bit to be inspired by is this- the AFC West isn’t exactly a major division right now. San Diego, arguably the best team in the division is having some player contract issues, the Raiders are young and improved, but I’m not sold on their QB situation, and then there’s Denver. Nothing more needs to be said about them.

  • July 28, 2010  - Will says:

    I’m enthusiastic based on the change of coordinators, Anthony Pleasant at defensive line, the addition of secondary coach Emmitt Thomas, the draft, the additions of Ryan Lilja, Thomas Jones, plus the attendance and enthusiasm exhibited at the off season workouts. The workout, OTA and mini-camp attendance was unbelievable, and nothing to take for granted.
    Obviously, we haven’t played a down, we have no idea who will really be healthy when the season opens and we have no tangible idea of what the offense, defense or special teams will look like. That’s why training camp attendance by the Kool Aide Drinkers will be at an all time high. I just believe there’s a different “energy” coming from this group and that’s a good thing. I agree with everything Bob says from an evidential point of view. But there’s something intangibly different about this year’s group. Frankly, I think Todd Haley will ultimately prove to be an outstanding football coach. Experience, the revealer of all things, will certainly determine the accuracy of that concept. I hope the Chargers leave Arrowhead wondering what hit them…just sayin’….

  • July 28, 2010  - 13and3 says:

    The problem Bob has is the same Nick Wright has, is that they have very little foresight or refuse to use what little they may have.. They want to base their predictions solely upon previous results. Although we can make some judgment about future performance with respect to an established track record, we also have to make some projections and educated guesses. Many columnist and talk show host are afraid to go a little out of their comfort zone for fear of being viewed as unrealistic, a homer, oemotionally driven, or a crack. They want to take any emotion or conjecture completely out of the picture and make all their judgment about wins and losses fact based. It all folly, the main reason why many readers and listeners entertain their opinions at all is to get a feel of what is to come, not to rehash what we already know. Sadly by the time Bob or Nick realize we have a winner, its already been proven on the field. It is sort of like playing the stock market, by the time cnn reports the Google or apple massive earnings beat, the stock price has already shot through the roof and it is too late to enter the trade. But hey we are all different with varying degrees of tolerance for risk, emotionally and financially, some would rather play it safe and predict 4 wins and celebrate 10 (who is going to care at that point), then have everyone remember them predicting 10 and only have 4. It is all about perception and credibility.

  • July 28, 2010  - MenInRed says:

    is July 28th a monday? as per Bob’s headline-

    Please, Less Kool-Aid … Monday Cup O’Chiefs
    July 28, 2010 – Bob Gretz | Comments(16)

    Go Chiefs!!!

  • July 28, 2010  - Harold C. says:

    Why are we drinking the “Kool-aid”? Because like has been mentioned before…teams have come from worse records than the Chiefs to be contenders the next year….and it’s a game. Anything can happen. Also…it’s not any fun to start the season sure that there is nothing to root for. Fans have hope. It’s have hope or be miserable. I like hope better.

  • July 28, 2010  - Mark says:

    GREAT post 13and3. Too many people rely on what happenned last year when making this year’s projections, and never see it coming until too late when a team comes out of nowhere and massively improves. 2004 Chargers went from 4-12 to 12-4 and NO-ONE foresaw it, unless you really paid close attention to what they were doing. They, like us, had compiled some young talent that was ready to take the next step. Improvement like that usually comes all at once, instead of baby steps. We had our baby steps last year, this year is explosion time. We have the best coaching in the NFL, after a few years of having the worst, and Coaching is far more important than talent in advancing to the top level and staying there.

  • July 28, 2010  - dan in joplin says:

    Thanks for bursting the bubble Bob!:) It is the same ole thing year after year after year as a chiefs fan, HOPE (like harold says)! The difference this go around is that from top to bottom i think there has been put into place the best chance we will have since Carl & Marty arrived! That’s what i’m putting my hope in.
    I expect a contender for years to come! As a fan why would i expect anything else!

  • July 28, 2010  - J Lloyd says:


    Hope and Dreams are not far from what CAN happen , or they would not have to play these games .
    Last year the Steelers lost THREE games and they were the 3 , that Troy P. was out with injury .
    I think talent and being able to make the right moves with the RIGHT — guy’s can change it all ,
    plus no one knows what can happen before the game starts , plus going from L.J. as the only running back to what looks like the best set up for running in the NFL .
    I think with the defence and the fact that Matt & Brodie ( who is part of a set of talent that has just ripened ) are on the verge of a lot of ball controll .
    Very imporant , Major imporant — coaching ….
    To me this is a team that can and proably will win a number of games by 3 TD’s or more and end up in play off’s , with a lot of steam !!!!

  • July 28, 2010  - Kevin says:

    the biggest thing bob missed on was team chemistry and attitude. Bad teams find a way to lose, look at the chiefs the last 3 years, how many did we give away? If attittude and chemistry change – which i think we all saw that start to happen after LJ was booted – i think we get 2 wins alone off of this.

    I don’t think expecting the chiefs to go 7-9 or 8-8 is being a kool-aide drinker, 13-3, yes, but break-even in our division?

  • July 28, 2010  - G says:

    Bob’s just mad at the Chiefs because Carl P, Herm, and Kuharich used to pay him to wash their cars. Now that that money’s dried up he’s creating “premium content” to make up the difference.

    It doesn’t take a genius to see why people would be optimistic. Look no further than the offseason program participation, D-Bowe working out with Larry Fitzgerald, more leaders than we’ve had on the team since Vermiel was here, etc etc. I’m not expecting the playoffs, but I’m pleased to say I can now hope for playoffs in the future, which isn’t something I was able to do when Herm Edwards was our coach.

  • July 28, 2010  - ED says:

    I’M DRINKING THE KOOL-AID. Pioli has already shown me enough to prove he’s a legit GM in this league. I would say about 90% of Chiefs fans including myself wanted us to draft Sergio Kindle from TX and Terrance Cody from ALA because most fans kept saying we need another pass rusher and definately a nose tackle. How stupid would that have looked now with Kindle mysteriously falling down the stairs yea right and Cody fat and out of shape. This guy Pioli brought in two stud picks with Arenas and Mcluster that will no doubt help this team win games this yr.

    As for bringing up Bob what Peterson did in 2008 draft. I would say the sun shines on a dog’s butt every now and then. What happen to the players he drafted from 2001 to 2004 oh thats right their no longer on the team. Bottom line Herm I think had more imput on the 2008 draft which actually helped get some talent in the building for a change. But take your hat off to Haley he’s the right head coach to develop these guys. We didn’t hear about Dorsey having to lose weight his rookie yr like he did last yr and its paid dividends because he certainly performed alot better.

  • July 28, 2010  - MarkInTexas says:

    Great post, Bob, as usual. What’s great about the NFL is that you can write a similar story about all the teams. Legitimately. I’m in Dallas, a realistic Super Bowl contender, but many of the same questions exist here. Game on!!

  • July 28, 2010  - Michael says:

    I don’t think Bob is trying to rain on anyone’s paradge here, nor do I think he’s mad at the Chiefs or holding a grudge. Seems to me he’s probably just heard one too many fans or media people go over-the-top with their projections for the Chiefs this year.

    So, he takes the cynics eye view, and points out the real question marks facing the team this year, and their are certainly many. I don’t have a problem with that. It’s not like he’s saying the team cannot or will not have enough answers to have a good season. Just saying we don’t know yet.

  • July 28, 2010  - BigJimInWisconsin says:

    So tub-o-lard Cody failed his conditioning test. What a surprise! I didn’t want him drafted for this reason.

    8-8 Ohhhhh yeeeeaaaaahhhhhh! Kool-Aid’s here…bringing the smiles…

    Go CHIEFS!

  • August 1, 2010  - Harry Johnson says:

    I liked the premium Kool-Aid picture… What’s that you say? This isn’t the premium content yet? *fumbling to find money* It’s only getting better from here! Woooooooo!!!

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