Passion Back For Raiders … Wednesday Cup O’Chiefs

“I’ve had a great dislike for the Raiders.”

The statement above was made by:

  1. a.) Marty Schottenheimer
  2. b.) Carl Peterson
  3. c.) Gunther Cunningham
  4. d.) Todd Haley
  5. e.) All of the above

We found out this week that the correct answer is (e.)

Yes, the game is on with the “Hated Raiders” and Todd Haley has thrown his fuel on the fire.

“Growing up in the household that I grew up in the Steelers-Raiders rivalry was important,” Haley said. “Once you have it I don’t think you ever lose it. It’s not like some point in my life I said, ‘Hey, I like these guys, they’re cool’.”

While Dick Vermeil and Herm Edwards downplayed the emotional elements of the 50-season rivalry with the Raiders, it sounds like Haley is more along the lines of Marty/Carl/Gun, where things are personal when it involves the silver and black.

“I’ve made it clear to the team that everybody in this building needs to have an equal dislike,” Haley said. “We’ve got to start re-establishing the great home-field advantage we have.

The roots of Haley’s dislike of Al Davis’ club have nothing to do with the Chiefs, and everything to do with the Steelers and their battles with the Raiders during the 1970s. Along with the Miami Dolphins, the Steelers and Raiders ruled the decade of the 70s and Pittsburgh and Oakland played a number of memorable regular-season and post-season games, much as the Chiefs and Raiders did in the 1960s.

Of course it means even more when the roof over your head is courtesy of employment with the Steelers, as it was with Haley and his father Dick, who was one of Pittsburgh’s top personnel men. Todd Haley was five years old when Franco Harris grabbed a deflected pass off his shoe tops and beat the Raiders in a first-round game in the playoffs that has forever since been known as the Immaculate Reception. It was the Raiders who knocked the Steelers out of the playoffs in 1973, and it was Pittsburgh that beat Oakland I n the 1974-75 AFC Championship Games, while the Raiders took the 1976 game.

There were more than just the games that fanned the flames between Steelers and Raiders. Oakland TE Bob Moore had his head cracked open – reportedly by a Pittsburgh policeman – outside the team’s hotel in downtown Pittsburgh before the ’72 game. It was Raiders S George Atkinson who laid out WR Lynn Swann with a chop to his head as he came across the field. It was Steelers coach Chuck Noll who after that hit, called the Raiders the NFL’s “criminal element.” It was Atkinson who sued Noll for slander and the lawsuit was actually heard in a Bay Area court rom.

Over a span of eight years (1972-80) the Raiders and Steelers played 10 times, with half of those games coming in the playoffs. Oakland had a 6-4 edge in those games, although Pittsburgh was 3-2 in the post-season.

The Chiefs and Raiders rivalry has diminished somewhat because they haven’t played each other with anything on the line for some time. The last meaningful game as far as the standings were concerned was the final game of the 1999 season when Jon Gruden brought the Raiders to Arrowhead on January 2, 2000 and beat the Chiefs 41-30 in overtime. That knocked Kansas City out of the playoffs in Cunningham’s first year as head coach.

Over the 50-season history between these teams, the Chiefs lead the series 53-45-2, including the playoffs. For the Chiefs there was that remarkable run during the Peterson/Schottenheimer Era when the red and gold dominated the silver and black, going 18-3 from 1989 through 1998.

Then there were the six games in 1968-69, where the Raiders won four, but couldn’t beat the Chiefs in the AFL Championship Game in ’69 for the trip to the fourth Super Bowl.

“I’m very aware of that around here and the history of it,” Haley said of the Chiefs-Raiders rivalry. “I’ve paid attention to it over the years and understand there are a lot of things that have gone on and fanned the fire. I think that’s what makes the NFL great, what makes the conferences great and the divisions great.

“The more you keep them together like the NFL has been able to do the more you have some of this. I just think it adds to it and makes it more exciting.”

In the last two seasons, the series has been split each year, with the Chiefs losing at home and winning in Oakland.

The fastest way to return the Chiefs-Raiders to its rightful place among the NFL’s best rivalries is to start playing some games that mean something again. In the last two seasons, the Raiders are 9-23, while the Chiefs are 6-26.

TURK IS TURKED, AND ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST

It would certainly appear that we can now officially declare the second round of the NFL Draft a disaster area for the Chiefs. Another victim went down the tubes on Tuesday when OLB Turk McBride was released to make room for WR Bobby Wade.

McBride was the team’s second-round choice in 2007 out of Tennessee. He was viewed as a versatile defensive lineman who could play both inside and outside. The shift to a 3-4 defensive scheme and his move to outside linebacker pretty much wiped out his chances of sticking in Kansas City. That was a bit of a surprise, given that McBride showed how athletic he was when he played wide receiver at Camden, New Jersey’s Woodrow Wilson High School and ran the 100 meters, while also throwing the shot put and discus in track & field.

That athleticism really wasn’t in view much at outside linebacker. McBride can play in the league and there’s no question that he’ll get another chance.

As for the second round, we will leave CB Brandon Flowers out of the mix, since he’s just in his second season and because he’s shown the ability to be a major contributor on defense. Here are the second-round selections since ’07:

  • 2007 – DE Turk McBride    released 9/’09.
  • 2006 – S Bernard Pollard    released 9/’09.
  • 2004 – DT Junior Siavii    released 8/’06.
  • 2003 – LB Kawika Mitchell    not re-signed ’07.
  • 2002 – DT Eddie Freeman    released 8/’04.
  • 2000 – CB William Bartee    not re-signed ’07.

We’ll stop there, but there’s more going back into the 1990s, through the 1980s and 1970s.

It may be time for the Chiefs to boycott the second round.

SIGNINGS, INJURIES & MOVEMENT AROUND THE LEAGUE

  • BILLS – signed TE Jonathan Stupar; released WR Justin Jenkins.
  • BROWNS – released LB Leon Williams.
  • EAGLES – activated QB Michael Vick; released WR Hank Baskett; placed RT Shawn Andrews on the injured-reserve list (back).
  • FALCONS – re-signed RB Verron Haynes.
  • GIANTS – claimed RB Gartrell Johnson on waivers; released DT Leger Douzable.
  • JAGUARS – placed DE Reggie Heyward on the injured-reserve list (broken leg); promoted CB Kennard Cox from practice squad.
  • SAINTS – re-signed WR Courtney Roby; released TE Buck Ortega.

FROM THE PAGES OF CHIEFS HISTORY

On September 16, 1960, the Dallas Texans had the franchise’s first victory in beating the Oakland Raiders 34-15 at Kezar Stadium. (More details later today on this game.)

On September 16, 1973, the Chiefs lost their season opener to the Los Angeles Rams 23-13 at Arrowhead Stadium. The Rams rode a strong running game behind Jim Bertelsen (28 carries for 143 yards) and Lawrence McCutcheon (21 carries for 120 yards). QB John Hadl only threw for 99 yards, but he had a pair of TD passes. Pete Beathard had a pair of scoring passes for the Chiefs, throwing 16 yards to WR Elmo Wright and six yards to TE Gary Butler. WR Otis Taylor finished with four catches for 83 yards.

On September 16, 1979, the Chiefs lost to the Houston Oilers 20-6 at the Astrodome. It was a first start for rookie QB Steve Fuller, but it did not go well as he threw four interceptions. That and 131 yards rushing from RB Earl Campbell gave Houston an easy victory in the first start for their young QB Gifford Nielsen. The Chiefs only score came on a 55-yard punt return by J.T. Smith. K Nick Lowery’s PAT kick missed.

SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY …

Born on September 16, 1985 in Congerville, Illinois was OLB Andy Studebaker. He joined the Chiefs for six games in the 2008 season, after entering the NFL that year with Philadelphia as a college free agent out of Wheaton College. Studebaker appeared in six games last season with the Chiefs and played in the ’09 season opener against Baltimore.

Born on September 16, 1961 in Chattanooga, Tennessee was G Ellis Gardner. He was selected in the sixth round of the 1984 NFL Draft out of Georgia Tech. Gardner played in eight games as a rookie with the Chiefs. In the next season, he played in nine games with the Colts.

Born on September 16, 1969 in Whiteville, North Carolina was DL Chester McGlockton (right). He joined the Chiefs for the 1998 season, after playing six seasons with the Raiders. McGlockton was a restricted free agent and the Chiefs and Raiders made a deal for a second-round draft choice in ’98. He ended u p playing three seasons with the Chiefs (1998-2000), playing in 41 games, with 40 starts. McGlockton had 6.5 sacks and two recovered fumbles. He finished up his career with two seasons in Denver and then one season with the Jets.

Born on September 16, 1978 in Ahoskie, North Carolina was DT Eric Downing. He was selected in the third-round of the 2001 NFL Draft out of Syracuse. Downing spent three seasons with the Chiefs (2001-03), appearing in 42 games, with 13 starts. He had two sacks. Downing played the ’04 season with San Diego.


73 Responses to “Passion Back For Raiders … Wednesday Cup O’Chiefs”

  • September 16, 2009  - Anonymous says:

    Just when I was about to give up on you and your Lassie dominated web site, you gave me want I want I wanted to read.
    Finally a Raiders hater in front of the team, no more wine and cheese guy from California, but a steel working man with the stones to say, f’ the Raiders, it’s good to be able to jump on board with this man.


  • September 16, 2009  - MattyMc44 says:

    Mr. Gretz … I am by no means a perfectionist, BUT I am trying to figure out how a team wins in overtime 41-30?

    Bottom line is it doesnn’t matter, Chucky and the Raiders won…


  • September 16, 2009  - MattyMc44 says:

    Mr. Gretz … I am by no means a perfectionist, BUT I am trying to figure out how a team wins in overtime 41-30?

    Bottom line is it doesnn’t matter, Chucky and the Raiders won and the Red and Gold (dagnabit) didn’t.

    Is it better to go 2-14 with both wins vs. the Raiders or to go … nevermind.


  • September 16, 2009  - Tim says:

    Hey lets throw some wood on the fire… Second round busts:
    Harvey, I’ve got a long neck Williams
    Hey Hey YOU YOU Get off of MIKE CLOUD

    Anyway, you get the idea.


  • September 16, 2009  - Rick says:

    two second round picks next year….let the jinx end now


  • September 16, 2009  - findthedr says:

    nice read Bob. keep em coming.


  • September 16, 2009  - ED says:

    Yeah i hate the Raiders as well. Good read Bob. Am also glad Haley share the tradition in hating them maybe now we can get back to establshing our dominance over them. As for Turk getting cut. Just another Edwards/Peterson draft pick gone by the wayside. For a team that was suppose to 90% complete I’m sure Herm’s not around to actually put that squad on the field. The other think I’m shocked by is how many are not even getting picked up by other teams. In away I’m glad last year happen the way it did. IF we’ve went 5 and 11 or 6 and 10. Herm/Peterson and even Gunther would still be around and will have more bad picks getting drafted hear. The situation Haley/Pioli facing is alot worse than I could’ve imagined with all those picks being released.


  • September 16, 2009  - Scott says:

    “Haley is more along the lines of Marty/Carl/Gun, where things are personal when it involves the silver and black.”

    YES!!! It’s good to have a Head Coach who hates the Raiders again. Haley “gets it”.

    Now, if he’ll just talk a little “smack” on the Donkeys…


  • September 16, 2009  - Anonymous says:

    Looking at that picture, what exactly inspires the Raider fans? Heading to a s/m party? Midnight showing of “Ther Rocky Horror picture show”? Actually convinces me more and more that Lassie has been sent in to a Chiefs site to do harm to the tribe.


  • September 16, 2009  - SG says:

    ED,

    yooor spelling and gramer is reely bad.


  • September 16, 2009  - Josh says:

    I would have to agree Scott – I have more of a hatred towards the donkeys than the raiders. Just really really hate the donkeys.

    Please don’t feed the animals.

    JB


  • September 16, 2009  - Scott says:

    Anonymous says:
    “Looking at that picture, what exactly inspires the Raider fans? Heading to a s/m party? Midnight showing of “Ther Rocky Horror picture show”?”

    A Halloween party in Hell itself, maybe?

    Raiders fans are passionate about their team…you have to give ‘em THAT much. But not a group I’d like to meet in a dark alley somewhere, for sure.


  • September 16, 2009  - Scott says:

    Josh says:
    “I would have to agree Scott – I have more of a hatred towards the donkeys than the raiders. Just really really hate the donkeys.”

    Yeah, it’s actually a little more for Denver for me too. I strongly dislike San Diego. But, I HATE the Raiders and Donkeys.

    And I hate the Cowboys almost as much…just to throw that in there. Since we play them here this year.


  • September 16, 2009  - Josh says:

    I’m more of a Donkey hater too…I wonder if that’s due to watching Elway come back on us so many times growing up. I know for sure I’ll never forget the Monday nite game in 1991 where the Chiefs had the lead late and Dan Reeves called a flea flicker that put the Broncs in field goal range. Elway was THE LUCKIEST guy ever when it came to playing the Chiefs. Stupid horse-toothed MF’er. haha

    JCH


  • September 16, 2009  - Jim Lloyd+ says:

    Tyler was good in a wildcat off. , but only for the first half —-Brodie was good in the second half . Play them this way and if either has to go out , replace with the other Matt .


  • September 16, 2009  - Brak says:

    @ Bones…growing up in KC I was actually closet Broncos fan when they weren’t playing the Chiefs…I know, idiocy of youth, but I had my reasons.

    I moved to CO and it took me all of 1 game to hate the Broncos. Their fans are the worst…ignorant, bandwagon, soccer-lovers. Then they went on to win those damn super bowls back to back.

    My favorite teams now are the Chiefs and anyone playing the donks.

    This has nothing to do with the BG article, but you broght back memories (though I would move back out there in a heart-beat).

    Go Chiefs!


  • September 16, 2009  - gorillafan says:

    I have a few friends that are donkey fans, that makes me hate them that much more.

    Hate the Faiders too!!!


  • September 16, 2009  - Neckstomp says:

    Are some of you guys just starting to wake up to the glaring fact that KC hasn’t had an overabundance of talent on both sides of the ball in a very long time?

    Even when Vermeil was building his killer offense – what did he do with our 32D defense all the years he was here? Not one thing.

    Bring in Robinson, Shanahan’s castoff and then re-sign Gunther. Neither of those guys could retool the losers we had on defense after DT suffered his vehicle accident.

    Since Hasty’s departure, KC hasn’t had one single player in the defensive backfield and that’s been years ago now. We’ve had other teams former stars, paid ‘em millions to do nothing. We drafted our own safeties and one is cut and the other should be demoted. What from the mid 80′s through the 90′s was this teams strong suite has been a merry go round of ick since Gunther first took over as HC.

    You want a free agent pickup back there – you obtain a Mark Collins clone, not a Patrick Surtain hollowed out shell. After DT passed, our linebacking corp disappeared. After Saleamua and Phillips moved on, our defensive line (save for Jared) was and has never been on par with those dlines we enjoyed during Marty’s tenure.

    Vermeil retooled and stocked his teams on the offensive side of the ball and he paid attention to the return game. He didn’t know sh*t about defense, didn’t pay it any attention and by the time Edwards was plucked away from the Jets (for a fcking pick!) the defense was Jared Allen & Greg Wesley…with a handful of rejects from other teams. But even Vermeil didn’t bother to pay attention to stocking the Oline behind Shields, Roaf, Wiegmann, Dunn or Gonzalez. To say nothing of right tackle – Jordan WTF is he now, Black.

    Pioli came into a situation that was about as bad as it can get when he joined Hunt. This team, after 5 draft yrs of Vermeil and three inept seasons of Harm Edwards, in worse shape than even the last two expansion teams back in ’95. Carolina and Jacksonville had more talent then.

    It’s very telling that of all the players axed off this team, 2 have been picked out of the unemployment line. Not to mention the nearly half a ton of flab that was worked off this team between the last game of the ’08 campaign and the first regular season game of this year.

    And we got Gretz grinding his axe against Pioli now for getting his fat ass off the sidelines. Bob misses his benefactor King – and he’s taking it out on the new regime.

    Finally have to start working for a real living after 20 yrs again, eh Bob? Sucks to be you.


  • September 16, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    FINALLY, the “any 22 will do” schtick of :shock: & :roll: has to fruition…not only via abhorant 0-5 soon to be 0-6 failure theirs, but ‘right 53′ which be in fact 31 are Herm’s Chiefs- the right ones nee 59% – while the bottom portion holding up the rear as it were ‘search’ & ‘check’s last 22 roster spots, 41%.

    Yes, any 22 will do – if 0-16 be the goal… appears by the evidence theirs at hand, ’tis.

    :cool: daddy-o


  • September 16, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Oops! I crapped my pants!

    :( Crappy-O


  • September 16, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Rin recalls (cue Al Davis) “the greatness of the Raduhs!” whence they dominated my KC Chiefs for years, including our best said from 1966-1971.

    In 10 games were either regular or post season that period, the Raiders won 7 or 70% of them, highlites being the 41-6 post season massacre December ’68 and Thanksgiving Day feast Chiefs the main course 44-22 1967 in KC.)

    Fact is, like Herm’s 2006 playoff Chiefs the 1969 Chiefs managed to prevail and get to post season, though in Rin’s Chiefs case, they needed a 1 year wild card playoff format to do so- otherwise, the Chiefs would’ve still to date never been in & won a Superbowl during the AFL years. Only thing that matters is on the scoreboard/in the record books: Herm ’06 & Chiefs ’69 both being victorious said.
    2nd place for this one season least in the record books did not make for second best.

    Still, those Raiders teams the 1967-1969 period were the best pro football team around. No less than Hank Stram himself said as much aft Kaycee managed to prevail in the 1969 Title Game – “we just beat one of the greatest teams in football – maybe ‘the greatest’.”

    No team put such fear into opponents as Lamonica, Wells, Biletnikoff & Co. on offense. And their 11 Angry Men on defense too were daunting – 67 sacks in a 14 game schedule 1967 – a better ratio than the 72 in 16 the 1985 Bears. Raiders went to the Superbowl aft that ’67 season where they lost to the greatest team ever the GB Packers, in a game much closer than the final score 33-14 indicated.

    All of this to say, long live the Raiders – the AFL and too Rin’s Chiefs. He’s been a fan since 1963 you know…

    :cool: daddy-o


  • September 16, 2009  - Scott says:

    Neckstomp says:
    “Pioli came into a situation that was about as bad as it can get when he joined Hunt. This team, after 5 draft yrs of Vermeil and three inept seasons of Harm Edwards, in worse shape than even the last two expansion teams back in ‘95. Carolina and Jacksonville had more talent then.”

    Exactly! And yet, there are some that piss and moan that Pioli hasn’t got this fiasco turned around…ALREADY! You CANNOT take the worst team in football (the last two years) and turn it into a yearly contender in one off-season. Patience, people. Patience. Pioli and Haley are a GM and Head Coach…not magicians.


  • September 16, 2009  - UK Chief Fan says:

    bonesjackson: That was the Rams the Chiefs lost to in 1973, not the Chargers. I’m surprised a bright 30 year old like yourself didn’t google their record that year before calling Bob out ;)


  • September 16, 2009  - UK Chief Fan says:

    Just being a pompous ass. :P


  • September 16, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    The Chiefs have been BUSTING on draft picks since back into the 1960s -

    #1 ‘in 64 Beathard
    #1 in ’67 Trosch
    #1b in ’68 Daney
    #1 in ’70 Smith
    #1 in ’71 Wright

    5 draft picks – 4 during KC’s longest good/great teams run from 1966-1971 … so missing on draft picks is nothing new.

    #2 picks thence? Names such as Willie Lanier, Jim Lynch and Ed Podolak- yet names too the other end the spectrum such as Mike Livingston and “Lighten Up” Francis Peay, Clyde Werner, Scott Lewis and a personal favorite Rin’s, Wilbur “I Ain’t No Army” Young – all during the ’66-’71 run. So 8 picks, 1 star, 2-3 good players, the rest some 62% nigh on BUSTS more so BEASTS if we’re honest.

    As always was shall e’er remain the constant: not so science or art as inexact both… now, if you want to talk Raiders and how great they were that same period – indeed from ’63 when the Master Al Davis arrived – and on for many years after Rin’s Chiefs had fallen into disrepair the early 1970s, can do so…will likely in a bit.

    For now we can see how big a dual BUST this years #2 pick has wrought & brought KC: an 0-5 mark, an injured QB who can’t stay healthy nor play up to NFL standards even when he isn’t hurt…as well a relic LB who has been missing tackles & arriving to meet the ball carriers – only a couple seconds aft those backs have vacated the premises…SLOW.

    But enough about the heartache & sorrow be these 2009 Chiefs of Rin’s – there’s always next year, and the one after, one aft that, and … oh, woe is we – man do our 2009 Chiefs stinketh. Thanks be to :shock: & :roll: for all you 2 “don’t” nee “haven’t” done…

    heh heh heh

    :cool: daddy-o


  • September 16, 2009  - ILChiefsFan says:

    Scott said:
    “Exactly! And yet, there are some that piss and moan that Pioli hasn’t got this fiasco turned around…ALREADY! You CANNOT take the worst team in football (the last two years) and turn it into a yearly contender in one off-season.”

    Scott, don’t bring yourself down to the level of the Pioli-haters by distorting the statements of those who have honest concerns about the state of the team. I say that with all due respect.


  • September 16, 2009  - findthedr says:

    Lance Long added to the chiefs PS. WR Rodney Wright cut.


  • September 16, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Yeah Scottie, listen to your other daddy ILLChiefsFan…

    :cool: daddy-o


  • September 16, 2009  - Scott says:

    ILChiefsFan says:

    “Scott, don’t bring yourself down to the level of the Pioli-haters by distorting the statements of those who have honest concerns about the state of the team. I say that with all due respect.”

    I have concerns about the state of the team, too. I also know that it will take more than one off-season to make this team what it should be. What it’s GOING to be. But, one thing I am 100% absolutely completely certain of? There’s not one single concern that ANY of us have, that Pioli and Haley aren’t aware of.


  • September 16, 2009  - Mandy Stevenig says:

    This is directed to ILChiefsFan.

    Scott wasn’t “distorting statements”, he was simply lumping all of the Pioli-bashing into one generalized statement. I didn’t perceive his post as attacking those with genuine concerns.

    Just saying.


  • September 16, 2009  - Scott says:

    Rin Tin Tin says:
    “Yeah Scottie, listen to your other daddy ILLChiefsFan…”

    Piss off, Rin. I could not POSSIBLY care less about your opinion of ANYTHING.


  • September 16, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Scottie pleads as he cries once more…

    heh heh heh!

    :cool: daddy-o


  • September 16, 2009  - Scott says:

    ILChiefsFan says:

    “Scott,
    I was too harsh. My apologies. But besides Rin Tin Tin, who is basically a circus act and cannot be reasoned with, and perhaps arrowhead1978, I think those criticizing Pioli/Haley on this site are honest Chiefs fans and not Pioli haters.”

    Nah…it’s cool. I didn’t take it that way. I think it all boils down to the fact that we Chiefs fans are tired of losing. Damn tired of it. We all want to win…and win right NOW. Not next year, or the year after. We, we do…but, you know what I mean.


  • September 16, 2009  - ILChiefsFan says:

    Rin,

    No one on this site wants to see your home movies.


  • September 16, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    ILL,

    No one on this site wants to see your progenitors nor your genitals – your Freudian slip is showing again…

    :lol:


  • September 16, 2009  - gorillafan says:

    WAY TO FEED THE TROLL. GOOD JOB!!


  • September 16, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Thank you gorilla monsoon…all donations kindly accepted!

    :lol:


  • September 16, 2009  - ILChiefsFan says:

    gorillafan,
    Don’t feed the troll! :)


  • September 16, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    ILLChiefsFan,
    Don’t feed the troll! :)


  • September 16, 2009  - arrowhead1978 says:

    Troll? Why do you all keep talking about my mom? :(


  • September 16, 2009  - SG says:

    Hate to break it to you, arrowhead, they’re not talking about your mom. They’re talking about my wife. :(


  • September 16, 2009  - Chris_Texas says:

    I remember the good ol days when Marty would anounce Raider week like dark clouds rolled in as soon as the game before was over didn’t matter if we won or lost that game it was now Raider week. He truly hated them and the 18-3 record showed he had the Chiefs fired up to play them. Hopefully Haley can instill some of that in these young players that its not just the next team on the schedule its the Raiders and if you don’t win the game at least bustem up so bad they loose the next week.

    As far as Turk he was ok no great loss but if we are bringing in WR’s why not NT’s. Heck you could go down to your local biker bar find the biggest meanest some-b*^$# you could find around 6’4 400lbs, throw some pads on the guy clogg up the middle at least. But as I’ve said and Scott pointed out we have to have patience this won’t be fixed this year. The other thing that did bother me though was not bringing in more O-Linemen I know they brought a couple in but our line as a whole still sucks and as we’ve said and will all year it will be next year.


  • September 16, 2009  - Anonymous says:

    Best comment of all about the Raiders/Chiefs rivalry was by Marcus Allen. After becoming a Chief he was asked about the rivalry and responded by saying “What rivalry, they (the raiders) would have to win occasionally.
    Noticed for once we had a good thread going then Lassie showed up, ignored at first, then responded to, he had what he wanted, ammo, our own words. He enertains me, kind of like a bad reality show, the contestands there don’t realize the whole world is laughing at them either. Bad doggie


  • September 16, 2009  - Alexthe"GREAT" says:

    We need 2 cut Ricardo Colclough asap! If he is on the field when its 3rd down u can best believe anything is possible for the oppisition! Go Chiefs in 2009 and Beyond!!!!


  • September 16, 2009  - Alexthe"GREAT" says:

    We need 2 cut Ricardo Colclough asap! If he is on the field when its 3rd down u can best believe anything is possible for the oppisition! Go Chiefs in 2009 and Beyond!!!!


  • September 16, 2009  - Alexthe"GREAT" says:

    Great minds think alike!(hehe)


  • September 16, 2009  - SG says:

    We need to cut Alexthe”GREAT” and Rin Tin Tin.

    Move arrowhead1978 to the practice squad.


  • September 16, 2009  - Alexthe"GREAT" says:

    SG you’re a High class Fag! Shouldnt u be on a date or sumthin?


  • September 16, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    As a player Marty “The Gleam” Schottenheimer lost 60% of the time whenever his teams – BUF and BOST – played the Raiders. That likely why he as many are not fond of the Silver & Black – they then as Rin now ‘winners’ – the genius envy a Rin as team envy of the RADUHS being no different – greatness ours has that affect as well effect on others.

    That “The Gleam” was always being whupped like a stepchild by the Raiders & then never won any big games in his life as a coach left him but with an sense of desperation; that he managed to beat the Oaklanders few times as coach his only solace…

    :lol:


  • September 16, 2009  - SG says:

    Alexthe”TURD”,

    Fag? I’m sorry, but I’ve never been out with your father. Sorry.


  • September 16, 2009  - Uncuffed says:

    You can’t blame the Turk cut all on the shift to linebacker. How quickly people forget how awful he was at DE for two years (ok, 1.5 b/c of injury). He was supposed to fill in for Allen’s suspension in 2007, couldn’t cut it. Couldn’t cut it by the end of 2007 either, and suxed in 2008. Good luck to him *IF* he gets on another team. People keep assuming these guys will get picked up, but last I checked Pollard is still out there too. We’ll see.


  • September 16, 2009  - SG says:

    The truth about Rin has been documented from his own words:

    “All of this to say, long live the Raiders…”

    For anyone who notices this, please use enough sense to reserve discussions of all things Chiefs to fans of the Chiefs. My practice changes from henceforth.

    Also, Alex-the-great, arrowhead, and any others who see the bologna posted in my name by pathetic-faker, please ignore such and watch for real SG posts.


  • September 16, 2009  - SG says:

    Gentlemen, stop referring to a certain poster as “the Troll.” The appropriate message should be:

    “Don’t feed the RAIDER.”

    Nuff Said.


  • September 16, 2009  - SG says:

    …Or my wife!!!!!!!!!!!


  • September 16, 2009  - SG says:

    I wish I had a wife. Or even a dog. At least I’ve got and am a big MEOW.


  • September 16, 2009  - SG says:

    “How quickly people forget how awful he was at DE for two years (ok, 1.5 b/c of injury). He was supposed to fill in for Allen’s suspension in 2007, couldn’t cut it. Couldn’t cut it by the end of 2007 either, and suxed in 2008.”

    One of the things that can be a big strength AND weakness of coaches is their stubborn refusal to be willing to admit an error and correct it timely. Vermeil stuck with Robinson after it was obvious that Robinson was not the right man for the job. Sometimes (seldom) it can pay off. However, it often becomes a coach’s undoing.


  • September 16, 2009  - Jon B. says:

    Okay. Let’s get one thing straight–I have been watching the AFC west since 1963–I hate, in no particular order–the Donkeys, the Faders, and the Champagne Shills in San Diego. I have hated them for a long, long time. It is not good enough to hate one or two. San Diego got on the real hate list a couple of years ago when in the midst of another losing streak, they were all talking about how good they are–particulary the snot nosed Lawhinikin Tupped who reads to much of his own press. If you say you have class–you don’t.


  • September 16, 2009  - gorillafan says:

    Did Bob have anything on the signing of Ryan O’Callahan on sunday?

    I missed it I guess. I didnt hear anything about it.


  • September 16, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    I wish someone in here would pull my buttcheeks apart and lick me. IM QUEER!!!

    ; ) daddy0


  • September 16, 2009  - larry says:

    I wish someone in here would pull my buttcheeks apart and lick me. IM QUEER!!!

    larry the fey


  • September 16, 2009  - Adam says:

    Jeez, I’m glad my son isn’t trying to pay attention to the chiefs. Keep it clean guys, your making an ass out of yourselves.

    When Haley starts winning without Herms’ guys, then “the troll” will quit talking. Enough Said.


  • September 16, 2009  - Bakjon says:

    How Herm’s 06 Chiefs and Hank’s 69 Chiefs can be put in the same light is ridiculous. The 69 Chiefs were champions while the 06 Chiefs played horribly in their playoff appearance. In fact if the 69 Chiefs had played the 06 Chiefs Herm’s crew would not have scored and the result would have been worse than Indy’s 15 point victory margin.

    The Chiefs have had a litany of bad drafts especially in the period from 69-79 and that was because Lamar let Hank have complete control of the draft. Stram let the Chiefs grow old and by the time he left, the Chiefs were barren of talent. Carl did the same with this current brand of Chiefs but Pioli and Haley will get it together. Fortunately, the Chiefs play in a weak division as the Broncos and Raiders are in the same boat with the Chiefs and the Chargers with all thier talent is a poorly coached team.

    Chiefs 27 Raiders 10


  • September 17, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Rin Tin Tin uber alles!

    :lol:


  • September 17, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    RADUHS 24 chiefs 13

    :twisted:


  • September 17, 2009  - larry says:

    I don’t impersonate you, stop assuming it’s me. I prefer calling you out on your ignorance. Figure out what a Freudian slip is yet? Still no?
    oh well….


  • September 17, 2009  - larry says:

    you Bakjon. i’m talking to you




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