Comments on: OTA Update 5/22 http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html Dedicated to providing the best coverage of the Kansas City Chiefs. News, commentary, reports, and exclusive inside information - daily! Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:00:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Big Lee http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18233 Big Lee Mon, 25 May 2009 02:37:18 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18233 Improved O-line would help running game, which in turn will help passing game. We don't want Cassel to get the crap beaten out of him like QBs did last year. But we could have Sweetness back there and it wouldn't have mattered last year, although his effort would have been far more heroic than LJs. Improved O-line would help running game, which in turn will help passing game. We don’t want Cassel to get the crap beaten out of him like QBs did last year. But we could have Sweetness back there and it wouldn’t have mattered last year, although his effort would have been far more heroic than LJs.

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18201 Rin Tin Tin Sat, 23 May 2009 04:15:15 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18201 :-) :-)

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18200 Rin Tin Tin Sat, 23 May 2009 04:14:48 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18200 (Cue Elton John paraphrase, addressee ^ above) "Green eyes, fake Rin's got, green eyes... (Cue Elton John paraphrase, addressee ^ above)

“Green eyes, fake Rin’s got, green eyes…

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18198 Rin Tin Tin Sat, 23 May 2009 04:01:02 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18198 Man, I'm an idiot! Man, I’m an idiot!

]]> By: extrametal http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18196 extrametal Sat, 23 May 2009 03:29:59 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18196 scott, gotta have an o-line before RBs to get your running game going. unless you're looking to pick up barry sanders, who i'm not sure could run behind this line. sackintosh has been done since we signed him, and waters is about outta time. don't get me started on niswanger. O-line depth is by far our worst problem on offense. scott, gotta have an o-line before RBs to get your running game going. unless you’re looking to pick up barry sanders, who i’m not sure could run behind this line. sackintosh has been done since we signed him, and waters is about outta time. don’t get me started on niswanger. O-line depth is by far our worst problem on offense.

]]> By: Scott http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18195 Scott Sat, 23 May 2009 02:56:29 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18195 alex k says: "I see our recievers, unless a move is made, as follows Bowe/Bradley/Engram/Copper/Lawrence/T.Johnson" And that could...COULD be decent enough. For now. Depending on several various other factors. Which would be...our O-line play, our running game, etc. If it comes down to us having to pass too much...which I'm afraid it just might...then we could be in trouble. We just don't have the guys to get it done, if we have to pass all the time...and everyone KNOWS it. That might have been okay for Arizona last year, with Fitz & Boldin...but it won't work for us. If we can't get a running game going this year...we're dead. D-E-A-D...dead. And having (basically) only LJ and Charles for a running game (as it stands right now), really scares the crap outta' me. Of all of our needs...I still think RB, for depth if nothing else, is at the top of the list. If we can't get a running game going...it's going to be a long year. alex k says:

“I see our recievers, unless a move is made, as follows

Bowe/Bradley/Engram/Copper/Lawrence/T.Johnson”

And that could…COULD be decent enough. For now. Depending on several various other factors. Which would be…our O-line play, our running game, etc. If it comes down to us having to pass too much…which I’m afraid it just might…then we could be in trouble. We just don’t have the guys to get it done, if we have to pass all the time…and everyone KNOWS it. That might have been okay for Arizona last year, with Fitz & Boldin…but it won’t work for us. If we can’t get a running game going this year…we’re dead. D-E-A-D…dead. And having (basically) only LJ and Charles for a running game (as it stands right now), really scares the crap outta’ me. Of all of our needs…I still think RB, for depth if nothing else, is at the top of the list. If we can’t get a running game going…it’s going to be a long year.

]]> By: alex k http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18192 alex k Fri, 22 May 2009 22:07:35 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18192 agreed, stepping out of bounds wouldve been a good idea of reche caldwell, he fumbled anytime he tried to advance the football... I see our recievers, unless a move is made, as follows Bowe/Bradley/Engram/Copper/Lawrence/T.Johnson agreed, stepping out of bounds wouldve been a good idea of reche caldwell, he fumbled anytime he tried to advance the football…

I see our recievers, unless a move is made, as follows

Bowe/Bradley/Engram/Copper/Lawrence/T.Johnson

]]> By: alex k http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18191 alex k Fri, 22 May 2009 22:05:21 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18191 love the update on lawrence, I am not one to get super excited on picks, outside tyson jackson, but this lawrence kid can fly....like chris johnson speed love the update on lawrence, I am not one to get super excited on picks, outside tyson jackson, but

this lawrence kid can fly….like chris johnson speed

]]> By: Kevin B http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18190 Kevin B Fri, 22 May 2009 21:55:00 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18190 Anonymous, you have to have an offensive line to have a running game. Johnson's production drop could be attributed to having arguably the worst o-line in football last year. The Chiefs tried to run early in the year last year remember. Johnson up the middle for 1 yard. Johnson up the middle for one yard. Croyle back to pass....Crunch!. Then our star would come onto the field and kick the ball....hence the dawning of the spread. Anonymous, you have to have an offensive line to have a running game. Johnson’s production drop could be attributed to having arguably the worst o-line in football last year. The Chiefs tried to run early in the year last year remember. Johnson up the middle for 1 yard. Johnson up the middle for one yard. Croyle back to pass….Crunch!. Then our star would come onto the field and kick the ball….hence the dawning of the spread.

]]> By: Scott http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18188 Scott Fri, 22 May 2009 21:07:43 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18188 Sometimes it's better for the WR's to step out of bounds to avoid being leveled...and live to play the next play. Is that extra yard or two worth getting killed? You have to remember, WR's are usually the smallest (weight-wise) guys on the field. They get hit enough going up for balls...coming across the middle...etc. They are in a vulnerable position a lot of times. Most of the killer hits you see are on WR's. (Remember Boldin last year?) So, I couldn't blame a guy for running out of bounds once in awhile. But, there IS a difference between being smart about it...and just being a pussy. Sometimes it’s better for the WR’s to step out of bounds to avoid being leveled…and live to play the next play. Is that extra yard or two worth getting killed? You have to remember, WR’s are usually the smallest (weight-wise) guys on the field. They get hit enough going up for balls…coming across the middle…etc. They are in a vulnerable position a lot of times. Most of the killer hits you see are on WR’s. (Remember Boldin last year?) So, I couldn’t blame a guy for running out of bounds once in awhile. But, there IS a difference between being smart about it…and just being a pussy.

]]> By: anonymous http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18187 anonymous Fri, 22 May 2009 20:49:41 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18187 Blake, I too appreciate a guy who is willing to sell out on every play, but there are several guys that are in or, have been through the league that avoided contact and are or have been very effective. Moss comes to mind as a current star that is pretty quick to step out if he can avoid the hit. But some times, fear exposes the true speed of a player. ;) What really disgust me is when a receiver starts short arming passes, that to me is chicken S*&t! Blake,
I too appreciate a guy who is willing to sell out on every play, but there are several guys that are in or, have been through the league that avoided contact and are or have been very effective. Moss comes to mind as a current star that is pretty quick to step out if he can avoid the hit. But some times, fear exposes the true speed of a player. ;)

What really disgust me is when a receiver starts short arming passes, that to me is chicken S*&t!

]]> By: jimbo http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18186 jimbo Fri, 22 May 2009 20:42:08 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18186 SG... I'm here to reassure you that not everything in life is easy. Nor as cut & dry as you so eloquently display. Belief that you can excel at anything, with alot of work, passion and the desire to be the best. The American Dream is always attainable. Even in the NFL... SG… I’m here to reassure you that not everything in life is easy. Nor as cut & dry as you so eloquently display.
Belief that you can excel at anything, with alot of work, passion and the desire to be the best. The American Dream is always attainable. Even in the NFL…

]]> By: Blake http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18185 Blake Fri, 22 May 2009 20:30:54 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18185 I watched some video on Lawrence and he seems like he doesnt want to be hit, he ran out of bounds on all of the kickoffs they showed and never wanted to be hit. Bradley dropped like the first 3 passes in one of the games and he could have helped us win if he didnt drop them but I still like him as a receiver. Hopefully since Darling was the starting WR he can get open when they go to some 4 WR sets, hopefully. I watched some video on Lawrence and he seems like he doesnt want to be hit, he ran out of bounds on all of the kickoffs they showed and never wanted to be hit. Bradley dropped like the first 3 passes in one of the games and he could have helped us win if he didnt drop them but I still like him as a receiver. Hopefully since Darling was the starting WR he can get open when they go to some 4 WR sets, hopefully.

]]> By: SG http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18184 SG Fri, 22 May 2009 20:29:25 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18184 "I know I am a dreamer..." You're right...you are... :-) “I know I am a dreamer…”

You’re right…you are… :-)

]]> By: anonymous http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18183 anonymous Fri, 22 May 2009 20:21:59 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18183 I think if the Chiefs try to throw the ball as often as they did last season, it's going to be a long one. The Chiefs best bet is to have an effective run game, in hopes of opening things up in the passing game a bit. I think if the Chiefs try to throw the ball as often as they did last season, it’s going to be a long one.

The Chiefs best bet is to have an effective run game, in hopes of opening things up in the passing game a bit.

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18182 Rin Tin Tin Fri, 22 May 2009 20:18:38 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18182 Where have you gone 'Gamebreaker', Otis Taylor? Only, unto memory. :'-( Where have you gone ‘Gamebreaker’, Otis Taylor? Only, unto memory.

:’-(

]]> By: jimbo http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18181 jimbo Fri, 22 May 2009 20:09:04 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18181 Preparing for the 2009 season is obviously going to be a challenge to the "Boys of Summer". I suspect the WR position will be the most interesting as the players involved continue to develop. I noticed last year that Dwayne Bowe caught more difficult passes that most others probably could not & simply dropped the "in your numbers" passes that grade schoolers could catch. I assume that it is all mental for him and quality coaching will help. If that is the case, I surmise a breakout year for him. His after the catch skills are over the top. He has the talent to be a pro bowler. We shall see. I was probably more impressed with Mark Bradley. The guy seemed to be open often enough last year and consistently caught the ball when it was practical to catch. He stepped right in last year with little Chiefs experience. If he stays healthy, I see a solid # 2 receiver. Ingram can be counted on as needed, whenever needed. The Lawrence kid could be the sideline speedster all teams would love to have. Assuming Cassel gets protection for the long ball, this kid could rock Arrowhead in 2009. I know I am a dreamer, but a practical one at that. Anybody else want to share their thoughts on the WR spotlight? Preparing for the 2009 season is obviously going to be a challenge to the “Boys of Summer”.
I suspect the WR position will be the most interesting as the players involved continue to develop. I noticed last year that Dwayne Bowe caught more difficult passes that most others probably could not & simply dropped the “in your numbers” passes that grade schoolers could catch. I assume that it is all mental for him and quality coaching will help. If that is the case, I surmise a breakout year for him. His after the catch skills are over the top. He has the talent to be a pro bowler. We shall see.
I was probably more impressed with Mark Bradley. The guy seemed to be open often enough last year and consistently caught the ball when it was practical to catch. He stepped right in last year with little Chiefs experience. If he stays healthy, I see a solid # 2 receiver. Ingram can be counted on as needed, whenever needed. The Lawrence kid could be the sideline speedster all teams would love to have. Assuming Cassel gets protection for the long ball, this kid could rock Arrowhead in 2009.
I know I am a dreamer, but a practical one at that. Anybody else want to share their thoughts on the WR spotlight?

]]> By: SG http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18180 SG Fri, 22 May 2009 19:48:56 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18180 "If they do it, no one can say they were overpaid." Compare their salaries to that of police officers, fire and rescue, and school teachers. THEY ARE OVERPAID. “If they do it, no one can say they were overpaid.”

Compare their salaries to that of police officers, fire and rescue, and school teachers. THEY ARE OVERPAID.

]]> By: SG http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18179 SG Fri, 22 May 2009 19:47:00 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18179 "It's going to be a lot of things, and it's going to change from game to game, heck from down to down based on what they showed on Thursday." Are the players going to be so busy thinking that they won't simply make plays? “It’s going to be a lot of things, and it’s going to change from game to game, heck from down to down based on what they showed on Thursday.”

Are the players going to be so busy thinking that they won’t simply make plays?

]]> By: anonymous http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18178 anonymous Fri, 22 May 2009 19:34:45 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18178 Love it! It's all about creating an atmosphere of competition and a spirit of unit cohesion. A Tried and True approach. Love it!

It’s all about creating an atmosphere of competition and a spirit of unit cohesion.

A Tried and True approach.

]]> By: Rip 'em a new one http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18177 Rip 'em a new one Fri, 22 May 2009 19:33:35 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18177 Quoting the poet, Robert Frost: "The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep." Pardon the dramatic opening but the above passage seems most apt for the Haley/Pioli team in attempting to turn this team around with so many issues and problems yet to be resolved. Getting all these loose pieces in place to forge the semblance of a cohesive unit and viable team is already looking to be monumental. If they do it, no one can say they were overpaid. Quoting the poet, Robert Frost:

“The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.”

Pardon the dramatic opening but the above passage seems most apt for the Haley/Pioli team in attempting to turn this team around with so many issues and problems yet to be resolved.

Getting all these loose pieces in place to forge the semblance of a cohesive unit and viable team is already looking to be monumental. If they do it, no one can say they were overpaid.

]]> By: Markc http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18176 Markc Fri, 22 May 2009 18:40:58 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18176 "“ Draft choice WR Quinten Lawrence finally showed a flash of his speed, catching a nice ball on a long pass from QB Ingle Martin. Lawrence ran fast smooth. "“ On the very next play, QB Matt Cassel tried to hook up on a similar play with WR Dwayne Bowe, but the play was covered perfectly by CB Brandon Carr. The difference in speed between Bowe and Lawrence was striking. You gotta like the sound of that ““ Draft choice WR Quinten Lawrence finally showed a flash of his speed, catching a nice ball on a long pass from QB Ingle Martin. Lawrence ran fast smooth.

““ On the very next play, QB Matt Cassel tried to hook up on a similar play with WR Dwayne Bowe, but the play was covered perfectly by CB Brandon Carr. The difference in speed between Bowe and Lawrence was striking.

You gotta like the sound of that

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/ota-update-522.html#comment-18175 Rin Tin Tin Fri, 22 May 2009 18:33:21 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=8880#comment-18175 "and Tony Davis on offense." - reiterating Bob G, I loved Tony in 'The Great Houdini' but to escape his own cognomen? ________________________________________ When Brian Waters et al the rest of the MIA's show up, will Haley be standing behind if not wrapped in yellow police tape marked "do not cross?"(precurser several 300 yard gassers?) ________________________________________ :-) “and Tony Davis on offense.”

- reiterating Bob G, I loved Tony in ‘The Great Houdini’ but to escape his own cognomen?
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When Brian Waters et al the rest of the MIA’s show up, will Haley be standing behind if not wrapped in yellow police tape marked “do not cross?”(precurser several 300 yard gassers?)
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:-)

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