Player Comp Pct TD Int Rate
A David Garrard 61.3 5 3 83.9
B Matt Cassel 57.1 7 2 82.2
C Shaun Hill 56.3 5 2 80.7
D Carson Palmer 59.1 8 7 78.3
E Trent Edwards 59.5 5 6 73.0
F Kerry Collins 54.8 5 8 62.0

And by yards thrown, Cassel is the lowest ranked man out of these six. But you know what…I would rather have him than any of the others.

No excuse needed. I think the win total will surpass 1…or 2…or even 3…might look like 4 or 5 wins total. Each coach’s body of work evaluated separately. The previous coach was justifiably removed for reasons that have been discussed at length. If this coach does the same or worse, should he not be called into account as well?

NAMES?

I would not change a word you said!! good post

Kiowa,

I would have to pick flowers as well. Colquit is very good, but a CB that good that young to me is a lot harder to find, and or get

our excuse is they only had 1 draft, 1 season. herm ole buddy had 4!!

Player Comp Pct TD Int Rate
A 61.3 5 3 83.9
B 57.1 7 2 82.2
C 56.3 5 2 80.7
D 59.1 8 7 78.3
E 59.5 5 6 73.0
F 54.8 5 8 62.0

I just wish the season would end so that we can compare the almighty cassel’s numbers to thigpens numbers from last years mediocre team. it’s practically the same offensive line and RB(s) same receivers basically with different last names except for Bowe. If the numbers aren’t comparable then I would have to say that Cassel was a reach, because they are both on level ground now, except for TG being gone which was alot and maybe Pioli/haley have thought about that and figured they could use that as an excuse for Cassel not doing what thigpen did last year??

Answer this if the chiefs only win 1 game this year or maybe 2, what excuse will the fans that wanted Herm’s head be??

We should never have traded TG. He would have been good for at least 1 win (gets us to two), he didn’t want to be here (so what), and we should have let him leave after the season with no compensation. Much better planning!

Keeping Tank Tyler should have been a no brainer. He was a mediocre talent that hasn’t improved much since he was drafted (fits right in), and it was well known that he would rather be rapping than tackling. You just can’t have too many of those guys on the roster! Besides, because of him, we were able to win 3 games the last two years…

They didn’t trade Tank to create a roster spot for a NT that won’t be here next year. Get real. They traded him for the draft pick to maybe get someone that can actually improve the team. The fact is, there still isn’t a lot of talent on this roster. Past regimes were terrible talent evaluators. It is getting fixed this year, but perhaps they can clear the underbrush, stockpile some picks, and restock the roster with actual talent.

You mention Haynesworth…how is that working out for Washington? Put them over the top? Sure tied up a lot of cap space for one guy to not have a great impact on the team. They are the poster child for reckless signing of FA’s with a name. I like the path we are taking. Yep, we suck right now, but it will change even next year after they have a full free agency period and a good draft.

The offense is just now really getting into a rhythm, let them grow.

Is Kenny Smith going to be the “Oh my god I can’t believe we ever played without him” savior of the defense? No. That’s not why they got him. They got him because he’s an actual, real life, experienced nose tackle who’s played the position before and knows what it’s about. He may play here and there, but in the mean time he can help TEACH the other players the position.

The real question of the day is this: How will the Smith’s names appear on the back of the jerseys? They can’t both be K Smith can they? Do they then use middle initials? Inquiring minds want to know!

“The LJ bashers are back early again I see”

I’m not bashing LJ. He simply is not getting the job done, and I’d like to see someone else get a chance. Will they do any better? Who knows? But, I would like to find out. At some point, we need to see what these other RB’s can do with the bulk of the carries for a game or two.

The only one I see doing any “bashing” around here is you. Cassel, Haley, Pioli, Chiefs fans, and the Chiefs in general. The rest of us are just having a discussion.

Haley and Pioli are not perfect. I don’t see anyone claiming they are. I think they have a plan. But yes, it will take some time to get it all in place.

When Pioli and Belichick teamed up in NE…the first year wasn’t pretty, either. It takes time. But look at the end result there. I truly think that will happen here, too. The shape the Chiefs were in, though? Wow. Lots of work to do. Remember when Haley first arrived here? When he was asked about the talent level? He said, “Well, the Punter is good”. Unfortunately…he was right. And that’s pretty much where they had to start.

Someone pointed out a day or two ago…this is just year one of the Pioli/Haley rebuild. And they got a late start, at that. It’s just that we fans have been going through this “rebuild” BS for years now…so it sucks. We want to win, not rebuild. Again. Or still. Or whatever you want to call it. So while us fans have been going through it…Pioli and Haley have not. They just got here. Which means yes, we have to go through another lousy, stinking year of rebuilding. I hate it, too. Trust me. But seriously, I think you will see a much improved team on the field next year. I think we’ll see decent improvement as this season goes forward.

And all I can say about the “Herm youth” you spoke of…is that most of them were just not very good football players. They played on a team that won 6 games in two years. Personally, I like the fact that the men in charge now recognize the fact that that is simply not going to cut it anymore.

As for the “coaching up”? I would say this…you can’t “coach up” a player that does not WANT to be “coached up”. Some players want to be the best player they can possibly be, and are willing to do whatever is necessary to achieve that goal. Other players seem to be content being average, do the minimum, and just want to do whatever they have to do to “get by”. But, you’re not going to see that type of player wearing a Chiefs uniform anymore. That’s where Pioli and Haley have started. We won’t see immediate results…but we will down the road. I’d bet on it.

1) Cassel ain’t a pussy. Takin a lot of hits and is still gettin up. And to date I haven’t seen him beggin any refs for a roughin the passer penalty.

2)Kenny Smith was not brougth in here to be a starter. Edwards obviously has won that spot for the time being. But Edwards needed someone backing him up so that is what Pioli went and got. He also got another one on the PS just in case Kenny doesn’t work out.

3)Had hopes before season started that a spark of the old LJ would be back. Hasn’t happened. Yeah, OLine is not real good. But when we sitting behind our tv’s can see a possible hole to squeeze through and sit there and watch LJ run into the back of somebody there is obviously an issue there. Who knows, maybe Haley really doesn’t like LJ and therefore has not used the bench method to stimulate professional growth like he has done with Bowe. I don’t fully believe that Charles is the answer. Battle? Maybe. I just hope that Haley gives Kolby a fair shake. See if has the vision to work around our lines deficiencies vice accentuating them.

so if pioli and haley keep moving players, im for it. we cant get worse and we cant be good keeping who we have.

1. The Chiefs were left in such bad condition no one left by herm can even play in the NFL much less a 1-5 team like the Chiefs.

2. Everything, and I mean everything Pioli/haley do is perfect and cannot be questioned by “true fans”.

Do you not see something wrong with this picture. I know it is a honeymoon period for Pioli/Haley but, folks, get off your knees. Pioli did nothing during free agency and loves anyone who wore a NE uni even if they did not play. Haley cannot “coach up” herm’s old guys just cut. You have already heard my view of the draft. Folks, I love you guys, but the current organization of the Chiefs do not seem to have a plan except to get read of all the herm youth as quickly as possible, that translates into multiple year of REBUILDING (losing) preparing for some fantasy Dynasty while they re-invent how it is done in the NFL. How silly have we become?

” I dont think it matters who is running back there, with this line, no one is going to be good…”

That could very well be. But, we’ll never know if we don’t try.

LJ has never been a ‘make you miss’ running back. He was a ‘run you ass over’ type. Which is great, with good blocking. But, we obviously don’t have good blocking right now.

We need to try someone with some moves…and some speed. The ability to get outside and go.

Our running game has sucked all year. It was better against the Redskins, but was still pretty pathetic. It only looked better because the other games were so terrible.

I’d just like to see them try something a little different than giving it to LJ 20+ times and calling that their running game.

and lj will not be benched. but may see a little less time, but I dont think anyone will complain about that. I dont think it matters who is running back there, with this line, no one is going to be good…

I’d like to think having Smith back would push LJ. So far, LJ seems to know that he’s going to get all the carries in the run game. A little fear of losing his job might light a fire under his ass…because I haven’t seen much evidence of one thus far.

I seriously doubt LJ will be a Chief next year. I know I keep harping on it, but I sure would like to see some of the RB’s that WILL be here next year get some chances. We’ll never know how these guys can play in a game…unless they get to PLAY in a game.