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	<title>Comments on: More WR Juggling … Wednesday Cup O’Chiefs</title>
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		<title>By: Bakjon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bakjon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed, Colby, and Gorillafan you all make valid points.  Has Pioli and Haley made some bad decisions? Yes they have but what else could they do. Part of the problem is that they were limited in time to accurately assess the talent as everybody else had a head start. The second part of the problem is that when Haley got rid of Gailey they had to change concepts at the last minute and the offense is still learning. If these concepts had been inplemented during mini-camps and during training camp then the offense would be further along.

I think too many people thought Pioli would be a miracle worker. However, you have to give him time because Carl figured he could run the Chiefs this decade similar to the 90s.  He let the line slip and should have started on building it after obtaining Roaf because Tait was about to become a RFA, Roaf had just come off knee surgery and no one knew how many years he had left, and Shields was starting to talk about retirement.  If he had started to build up the depth probably the o-line wouldn&#039;t be in the shape it&#039;s in now. 

Also, Carl&#039;s negotiating stance had an effect on possible free agents coming to KC and good players staying with the Chiefs.  Right now to get someone to play here you&#039;re going to have to overpay them.  I think Pioli&#039;s laying in wait to see how the CBA plays out to get FAs.  If things don&#039;t turn around next year I would be worried as well but if you check out how NE&#039;s record was in the first year and how the record was in the second year I have hope.  He needs to give Cassell the proper weapons and find a new DC as well as an OC to give Haley a chance to manage and delegate on Sundays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, Colby, and Gorillafan you all make valid points.  Has Pioli and Haley made some bad decisions? Yes they have but what else could they do. Part of the problem is that they were limited in time to accurately assess the talent as everybody else had a head start. The second part of the problem is that when Haley got rid of Gailey they had to change concepts at the last minute and the offense is still learning. If these concepts had been inplemented during mini-camps and during training camp then the offense would be further along.</p>
<p>I think too many people thought Pioli would be a miracle worker. However, you have to give him time because Carl figured he could run the Chiefs this decade similar to the 90s.  He let the line slip and should have started on building it after obtaining Roaf because Tait was about to become a RFA, Roaf had just come off knee surgery and no one knew how many years he had left, and Shields was starting to talk about retirement.  If he had started to build up the depth probably the o-line wouldn&#8217;t be in the shape it&#8217;s in now. </p>
<p>Also, Carl&#8217;s negotiating stance had an effect on possible free agents coming to KC and good players staying with the Chiefs.  Right now to get someone to play here you&#8217;re going to have to overpay them.  I think Pioli&#8217;s laying in wait to see how the CBA plays out to get FAs.  If things don&#8217;t turn around next year I would be worried as well but if you check out how NE&#8217;s record was in the first year and how the record was in the second year I have hope.  He needs to give Cassell the proper weapons and find a new DC as well as an OC to give Haley a chance to manage and delegate on Sundays.</p>
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		<title>By: el cid</title>
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		<dc:creator>el cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I said it before and now again.  I refuse to believe that Pioli thought the KC CHIEFS OFFENSE LINE was going to be adequate in 09 by adding Goff (FA) and  BROWN (MU),  I do not believe this team at 1-6 is what Pioli envisioned.  I will throw in Haley with that.  I suggest this skunk is just what it is and probably mostly Haley&#039;s fault.  Just explain why we have 4 TEs and every living WR not on a team.  Because that is all Haley knows??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said it before and now again.  I refuse to believe that Pioli thought the KC CHIEFS OFFENSE LINE was going to be adequate in 09 by adding Goff (FA) and  BROWN (MU),  I do not believe this team at 1-6 is what Pioli envisioned.  I will throw in Haley with that.  I suggest this skunk is just what it is and probably mostly Haley&#8217;s fault.  Just explain why we have 4 TEs and every living WR not on a team.  Because that is all Haley knows??</p>
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		<title>By: ED</title>
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		<dc:creator>ED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What olineman are out there that we can bring in. People throwing we should bring in o-lineman well name some. Bottom line this was an evaluation season for this organization. People thinking Pioli/Haley were going to wave a magic wand and make this team a contender this year wasn&#039;t being realistic about how bad this team was.

Point is they weren&#039;t going to fix this team in one year. Not when before last yr draft you needed defensive ends to play 3-4, offensive lineman, wide receivers, safeties, depth at the corner position, nose guard, Outside linebacker that can rush the passer, kicker, etc. I think most of you get the point at that time even QB was in the picture before we traded for Cassell. Too many holes to fix in one offseason. Not to mention Pioli had to use Peterson scouts because of the timeframe he came in on. 

I&#039;m by no means saying jackson and magee won&#039;t payoff in the long run, but as for everyone else other than Succop its a toss up the rest want be busts. Bottom line now Pioli got his own talent evaluators in place another offseason to improve the team lets see how it goes next yr this time. Personally if the offense improve a little bit more than what they have look like during the first half of the season we&#039;ll win about 5 to 6 more games and some of you would be more optimistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What olineman are out there that we can bring in. People throwing we should bring in o-lineman well name some. Bottom line this was an evaluation season for this organization. People thinking Pioli/Haley were going to wave a magic wand and make this team a contender this year wasn&#8217;t being realistic about how bad this team was.</p>
<p>Point is they weren&#8217;t going to fix this team in one year. Not when before last yr draft you needed defensive ends to play 3-4, offensive lineman, wide receivers, safeties, depth at the corner position, nose guard, Outside linebacker that can rush the passer, kicker, etc. I think most of you get the point at that time even QB was in the picture before we traded for Cassell. Too many holes to fix in one offseason. Not to mention Pioli had to use Peterson scouts because of the timeframe he came in on. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m by no means saying jackson and magee won&#8217;t payoff in the long run, but as for everyone else other than Succop its a toss up the rest want be busts. Bottom line now Pioli got his own talent evaluators in place another offseason to improve the team lets see how it goes next yr this time. Personally if the offense improve a little bit more than what they have look like during the first half of the season we&#8217;ll win about 5 to 6 more games and some of you would be more optimistic.</p>
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		<title>By: el cid</title>
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		<dc:creator>el cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>colby I do not buy it.  I think Pioli planned to build on what was there.  I bet it never occurred to him that Haley would &quot;coach&quot; this team the way it has worked out.  Cannot prove it but his actions do not indicate he intended to blast the roster or even OC.  The problem here may be Haley and his approach.  Play golf, if he was your coach he would be the one throwing clubs and yelling when you  got your driver out or on the putting green.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>colby I do not buy it.  I think Pioli planned to build on what was there.  I bet it never occurred to him that Haley would &#8220;coach&#8221; this team the way it has worked out.  Cannot prove it but his actions do not indicate he intended to blast the roster or even OC.  The problem here may be Haley and his approach.  Play golf, if he was your coach he would be the one throwing clubs and yelling when you  got your driver out or on the putting green.</p>
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		<title>By: Don W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to agree with Harold C, doesn&#039;t matter who we sign for WR if Cassel doesn&#039;t have time to throw or a running game to slow down the pass rush.

El cid also makes an interesting point that most of the roster churning is in the WR position and that is Haley&#039;s background. 

Wonder if someone in the media will think to ask Haley at a press conference when he&#039;s going to start bringing in OL like he is WR&#039;s to shore up the pass protection and run blocking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree with Harold C, doesn&#8217;t matter who we sign for WR if Cassel doesn&#8217;t have time to throw or a running game to slow down the pass rush.</p>
<p>El cid also makes an interesting point that most of the roster churning is in the WR position and that is Haley&#8217;s background. </p>
<p>Wonder if someone in the media will think to ask Haley at a press conference when he&#8217;s going to start bringing in OL like he is WR&#8217;s to shore up the pass protection and run blocking.</p>
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		<title>By: colby</title>
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		<dc:creator>colby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gorillafan says:

&quot;now if we continue to suck after next year, than i will be more ticked off, but until then im not getting my pannies in a bucnh dude&quot;

I tend to agree with this.  Pioli didn&#039;t come in and blow up the roster right away.  This season was to find out just how much legit talent there was on this team.  I&#039;m thinking that there was less than what Pioli was hoping for and he probably regrets a few moves or non moves.  HOWEVER, after this season, he&#039;ll have all of his personnel in place and will have a very clear idea about what pieces he needs to bring in to fix this team, both short and long term.  I know it&#039;s tough to watch this year, but I&#039;m encouraged by the fact that they have not quit and they are still looking to improve, as evidenced by taking a chance on Chambers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gorillafan says:</p>
<p>&#8220;now if we continue to suck after next year, than i will be more ticked off, but until then im not getting my pannies in a bucnh dude&#8221;</p>
<p>I tend to agree with this.  Pioli didn&#8217;t come in and blow up the roster right away.  This season was to find out just how much legit talent there was on this team.  I&#8217;m thinking that there was less than what Pioli was hoping for and he probably regrets a few moves or non moves.  HOWEVER, after this season, he&#8217;ll have all of his personnel in place and will have a very clear idea about what pieces he needs to bring in to fix this team, both short and long term.  I know it&#8217;s tough to watch this year, but I&#8217;m encouraged by the fact that they have not quit and they are still looking to improve, as evidenced by taking a chance on Chambers.</p>
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		<title>By: gorillafan</title>
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		<dc:creator>gorillafan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SO GREAT, 

team strenghts huh, what special teams?? our offense and defense has sucked for years!! playing to our strenghts was tried the last 2 years with absolutely no results. 

What would you do different, keep all  the suck ass players we had on this team for the last 3 years and try and hope to establish them into better players like herm did?

Like i said before, im not going to talk smack on a new regime right now. they are trying to find better players. period. so i say let them. we will suck no matter who is running the team till they find better talented players. I do think this team has some talent on it, just not enough.

now if we continue to suck after next year, than i will be more ticked off, but until then im not getting my pannies in a bucnh dude</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SO GREAT, </p>
<p>team strenghts huh, what special teams?? our offense and defense has sucked for years!! playing to our strenghts was tried the last 2 years with absolutely no results. </p>
<p>What would you do different, keep all  the suck ass players we had on this team for the last 3 years and try and hope to establish them into better players like herm did?</p>
<p>Like i said before, im not going to talk smack on a new regime right now. they are trying to find better players. period. so i say let them. we will suck no matter who is running the team till they find better talented players. I do think this team has some talent on it, just not enough.</p>
<p>now if we continue to suck after next year, than i will be more ticked off, but until then im not getting my pannies in a bucnh dude</p>
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		<title>By: colby</title>
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		<dc:creator>colby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the best thing about the Chamber signing is that we will now get to utilize Bobby Wade properly, exclusively out of the slot.  Wade does not possess the size or speed to win matchups out there on an island, but he is perfect for the slot.  While Chambers may not be Randy Moss, I think he commands more respect than Mark Bradley.  I posted yesterday that I am looking for and Eddie Kennison-like career turn around for Chambers.

Doesn&#039;t look like the Chiefs are going to activate Kolby this week and that&#039;s okay.  Give him another week of practice and debut him against the Raiders, a team he put up over 150 yards on two years ago.  I hope Kolby takes LJ&#039;s roster spot.  Engram probably needs to go at this point, but who takes his spot on the roster?  Hopefully a young offensive lineman, I don&#039;t care who, just a young O lineman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the best thing about the Chamber signing is that we will now get to utilize Bobby Wade properly, exclusively out of the slot.  Wade does not possess the size or speed to win matchups out there on an island, but he is perfect for the slot.  While Chambers may not be Randy Moss, I think he commands more respect than Mark Bradley.  I posted yesterday that I am looking for and Eddie Kennison-like career turn around for Chambers.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t look like the Chiefs are going to activate Kolby this week and that&#8217;s okay.  Give him another week of practice and debut him against the Raiders, a team he put up over 150 yards on two years ago.  I hope Kolby takes LJ&#8217;s roster spot.  Engram probably needs to go at this point, but who takes his spot on the roster?  Hopefully a young offensive lineman, I don&#8217;t care who, just a young O lineman.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexthe"GREAT"</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexthe"GREAT"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gorillafan are u blind?.........U say we had or players in place for 3 years and only won 2 games.................LMFAO.............dude we lost our 1st and 2nd string QBs in the first 3 games. Then we went 2 our 3rd string QB who was clearly a project and competed in every game minus his first against the Falcons. We should be getting way more from the &quot;great&quot; Cassel who is not a project and is our franchise QB(for now). Me personally, wouldnt want 2 play under these condescending a**holes who refuse 2 play towards thier team strengths and constantly bring in players who in someway has ties 2 Parcells/Belichick/Pats/Ari etc.. b/c they are supposedly winners. It sends the message 2 players that they are 2 stupid 2 play for u and IMO is the wrong message!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gorillafan are u blind?&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;U say we had or players in place for 3 years and only won 2 games&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..LMFAO&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.dude we lost our 1st and 2nd string QBs in the first 3 games. Then we went 2 our 3rd string QB who was clearly a project and competed in every game minus his first against the Falcons. We should be getting way more from the &#8220;great&#8221; Cassel who is not a project and is our franchise QB(for now). Me personally, wouldnt want 2 play under these condescending a**holes who refuse 2 play towards thier team strengths and constantly bring in players who in someway has ties 2 Parcells/Belichick/Pats/Ari etc.. b/c they are supposedly winners. It sends the message 2 players that they are 2 stupid 2 play for u and IMO is the wrong message!</p>
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		<title>By: el cid</title>
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		<dc:creator>el cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at a different angle, the Chiefs have been in rebuild mode since Stedman got canned. That is a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at a different angle, the Chiefs have been in rebuild mode since Stedman got canned. That is a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: el cid</title>
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		<dc:creator>el cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look at it at an angle, you could say the Chiefs have been in &quot;rebuild mode&quot; since Stedman got canned. Just Carl&#039;s only worked for a few years and fell apart with herm.  Sort of matches the Glass Royals.

Almost forgot similarities:
Make money 
get free money from Jackson cty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at it at an angle, you could say the Chiefs have been in &#8220;rebuild mode&#8221; since Stedman got canned. Just Carl&#8217;s only worked for a few years and fell apart with herm.  Sort of matches the Glass Royals.</p>
<p>Almost forgot similarities:<br />
Make money<br />
get free money from Jackson cty.</p>
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		<title>By: gorillafan</title>
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		<dc:creator>gorillafan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the royals have been rebuilding for 20 years. The chiefs have been rebuilding for 3 and this is the 1st year of a complete organization overhaul, so no im not agreeing with you on that aspect of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the royals have been rebuilding for 20 years. The chiefs have been rebuilding for 3 and this is the 1st year of a complete organization overhaul, so no im not agreeing with you on that aspect of it.</p>
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		<title>By: el cid</title>
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		<dc:creator>el cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you think about it there are real similarities between the Royals and the Chiefs.

Both:

&quot;pro sport&quot; at least in name
absentee owners
have know great times but not recently
among the worst in respective leagues
rebuilding (over and over)
wait till next year attitude especially by fans
Grenke and Gonzales big time players
New management but no new results yet
Many if not most players are not on a level against competition.
Bad drafting
on and on??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you think about it there are real similarities between the Royals and the Chiefs.</p>
<p>Both:</p>
<p>&#8220;pro sport&#8221; at least in name<br />
absentee owners<br />
have know great times but not recently<br />
among the worst in respective leagues<br />
rebuilding (over and over)<br />
wait till next year attitude especially by fans<br />
Grenke and Gonzales big time players<br />
New management but no new results yet<br />
Many if not most players are not on a level against competition.<br />
Bad drafting<br />
on and on??</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Lloyd+</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Lloyd+</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most imporant thing a TE or WR is to be able to get open , then blazing speed .
It only comes to light when your QB and who he is throwing to can connect on  every throw .
Get Cassel 3 to 4 seconds , plus being able to throw in space , to 3 strong WRs .
 He needs help in the backfield -  BLOCKING !!!!!
    Use Tight Ends &amp; stop sacks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most imporant thing a TE or WR is to be able to get open , then blazing speed .<br />
It only comes to light when your QB and who he is throwing to can connect on  every throw .<br />
Get Cassel 3 to 4 seconds , plus being able to throw in space , to 3 strong WRs .<br />
 He needs help in the backfield &#8211;  BLOCKING !!!!!<br />
    Use Tight Ends &amp; stop sacks</p>
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		<title>By: get real</title>
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		<dc:creator>get real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry but do not see a bright side to the Chiefs.  In less than one season, I see nothing better and wonder just when there will be one success to build on.  Sort of building without a foundation, just poured some cement on the ground and next year they will dig the foundation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but do not see a bright side to the Chiefs.  In less than one season, I see nothing better and wonder just when there will be one success to build on.  Sort of building without a foundation, just poured some cement on the ground and next year they will dig the foundation.</p>
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		<title>By: gorillafan</title>
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		<dc:creator>gorillafan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>get real, 

ouch, lets not go there yet..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>get real, </p>
<p>ouch, lets not go there yet..</p>
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		<title>By: gorillafan</title>
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		<dc:creator>gorillafan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just think you can not address all the positions that the chiefs need in one season, draft, free agency,e ct. I think they were trying to get a feel on our current roster early. maybe they thought they could get more production out of the o line and wr&#039;s. 

we have got players from winning teams this year, active players, not practice squad, and has adressed the o-line imo. we have shuffled the entire right side all year. I think they will get the players in place, you just cant do it in one year ya know.

last year the system and players had been in place for 3 years and we only won 2 games last year. we have new players and a new system, system just weeks in, so im not too worried about it.....yet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just think you can not address all the positions that the chiefs need in one season, draft, free agency,e ct. I think they were trying to get a feel on our current roster early. maybe they thought they could get more production out of the o line and wr&#8217;s. </p>
<p>we have got players from winning teams this year, active players, not practice squad, and has adressed the o-line imo. we have shuffled the entire right side all year. I think they will get the players in place, you just cant do it in one year ya know.</p>
<p>last year the system and players had been in place for 3 years and we only won 2 games last year. we have new players and a new system, system just weeks in, so im not too worried about it&#8230;..yet!</p>
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		<title>By: get real</title>
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		<dc:creator>get real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or be like the famed KC Royals. A neverending rebuild, always a loser, and a big dose of &quot;wait till next year&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or be like the famed KC Royals. A neverending rebuild, always a loser, and a big dose of &#8220;wait till next year&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: ernest</title>
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		<dc:creator>ernest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not one move has worked under pioli/haley. At his rate we will see a winner in KC in about 5 years.</description>
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		<title>By: Alexthe"GREAT"</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexthe"GREAT"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have winning players.......from the Pats...lol!</description>
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		<title>By: el cid</title>
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		<dc:creator>el cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gorillafan, I say ok to all you said.  Answer me why only Goff during free agency, why 4 TEs, why only Brown in the draft and how long will they &quot;waiting for more talented lineman&quot; take?  Coach Haley is oriented to the Offensive side of the game, right?  Is any off. players doing better than at the end of last season?  Lastly, why is there not ONE player off a winning team&#039;s practice squad who could help a 1-6 team, our team?  I was a big Pioli/Haley fan but to many still feel that not being carl/herm is enough.  It all still looks like the incompetent leading the incognate (spelling as in wetting on themselves).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gorillafan, I say ok to all you said.  Answer me why only Goff during free agency, why 4 TEs, why only Brown in the draft and how long will they &#8220;waiting for more talented lineman&#8221; take?  Coach Haley is oriented to the Offensive side of the game, right?  Is any off. players doing better than at the end of last season?  Lastly, why is there not ONE player off a winning team&#8217;s practice squad who could help a 1-6 team, our team?  I was a big Pioli/Haley fan but to many still feel that not being carl/herm is enough.  It all still looks like the incompetent leading the incognate (spelling as in wetting on themselves).</p>
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		<title>By: gorillafan</title>
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		<dc:creator>gorillafan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>el cid,
for one, getting o-lineman are few and harder to find, atleast the good ones anyway. they have tried to address it and has not had much success. So i believe they are waiting until more talented lineman become available. 

plus you cant win if you can not score. I think out d is more talented than our o. so, i think they see our offense as the weakest link and are trying to do anything they can to improve it. besides I think they have done alot of shuffling on the d anyway</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>el cid,<br />
for one, getting o-lineman are few and harder to find, atleast the good ones anyway. they have tried to address it and has not had much success. So i believe they are waiting until more talented lineman become available. </p>
<p>plus you cant win if you can not score. I think out d is more talented than our o. so, i think they see our offense as the weakest link and are trying to do anything they can to improve it. besides I think they have done alot of shuffling on the d anyway</p>
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		<title>By: el cid</title>
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		<dc:creator>el cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jimbo, I know ED is &quot;cool with it&quot; but I fear that #8 will happen before anything else does in 08.  If Haley actually made some changes in the off week, a win is possible against the Jags.  But I suggest you get out your winter gear just in case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jimbo, I know ED is &#8220;cool with it&#8221; but I fear that #8 will happen before anything else does in 08.  If Haley actually made some changes in the off week, a win is possible against the Jags.  But I suggest you get out your winter gear just in case.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not that excited about the Chambers pickup either. On the other hand he has the potential to distract defenses off of Bowe.
I&#039;m also tired of hoping this &amp; hoping that with the Chiefs this year. Once again I&#039;m finding myself hoping a few things.

1, Chiefs beat the Jaguars
2, Priest Holmes keeps his Chiefs yardage record.
3, The O-line has a great game.
4, Matt Cassel has a 300 yard. 3 TD passing game.
5, Coach Haley finally &quot;Gets it&quot; and coaches to the teams strengths (if any).
6, The defense starts walking with a swagger.
7, Wake up Monday morning feeling good about the Chiefs.
8, Hell does&#039;nt freeze over.
Go Chiefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not that excited about the Chambers pickup either. On the other hand he has the potential to distract defenses off of Bowe.<br />
I&#8217;m also tired of hoping this &amp; hoping that with the Chiefs this year. Once again I&#8217;m finding myself hoping a few things.</p>
<p>1, Chiefs beat the Jaguars<br />
2, Priest Holmes keeps his Chiefs yardage record.<br />
3, The O-line has a great game.<br />
4, Matt Cassel has a 300 yard. 3 TD passing game.<br />
5, Coach Haley finally &#8220;Gets it&#8221; and coaches to the teams strengths (if any).<br />
6, The defense starts walking with a swagger.<br />
7, Wake up Monday morning feeling good about the Chiefs.<br />
8, Hell does&#8217;nt freeze over.<br />
Go Chiefs.</p>
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		<title>By: el cid</title>
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		<dc:creator>el cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know some will not like it but does it seem odd anyone that HC Haley was a wrs coach then oc and the only name guys (players with any name recognition) are all WRs.  We sign a DT who has not played in 6 years, we NEVER sign a OL from anyones practice squad, there are LBs on the waiver wire weekly, and we have 4 TEs (sor some unknown reason).  And do not forget the players we have thanks to NE and MIA.  No one from Philly, GB, Atl can help a 1-6 team??

Fry me in oil but there is something wrong with how the Chiefs see the football world.  The 09 season may be just a lost season, while Pioli and Haley figure out how to do their jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know some will not like it but does it seem odd anyone that HC Haley was a wrs coach then oc and the only name guys (players with any name recognition) are all WRs.  We sign a DT who has not played in 6 years, we NEVER sign a OL from anyones practice squad, there are LBs on the waiver wire weekly, and we have 4 TEs (sor some unknown reason).  And do not forget the players we have thanks to NE and MIA.  No one from Philly, GB, Atl can help a 1-6 team??</p>
<p>Fry me in oil but there is something wrong with how the Chiefs see the football world.  The 09 season may be just a lost season, while Pioli and Haley figure out how to do their jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Chief</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mad Chief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gorillafan says: 

&quot;roll with the process. ha&quot;



&quot;Process&quot;.  I never hated that word until this year.  LMAO!


We need a WR with blazing speed.  I don&#039;t think Chambers is it.  But, I guess we&#039;ll just have to wait and see how it plays out with Chambers in the mix.  1-6, I suppose.  Nowhere to go but up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gorillafan says: </p>
<p>&#8220;roll with the process. ha&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Process&#8221;.  I never hated that word until this year.  LMAO!</p>
<p>We need a WR with blazing speed.  I don&#8217;t think Chambers is it.  But, I guess we&#8217;ll just have to wait and see how it plays out with Chambers in the mix.  1-6, I suppose.  Nowhere to go but up.</p>
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		<title>By: gorillafan</title>
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		<dc:creator>gorillafan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont see James coming here at all. I think we have good enough backs here to be ahead of him

For chambers, I think lance long and him share rolls for a bit. still with them 2 and bowe on the field, that could be a decent recieving core, maybe better than we have had in along time. Or it could be a bust once again, but before long, we will get the players they need and want. We just habve to roll with the process. ha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont see James coming here at all. I think we have good enough backs here to be ahead of him</p>
<p>For chambers, I think lance long and him share rolls for a bit. still with them 2 and bowe on the field, that could be a decent recieving core, maybe better than we have had in along time. Or it could be a bust once again, but before long, we will get the players they need and want. We just habve to roll with the process. ha</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Chief</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mad Chief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still suprised Chambers fell to the Chiefs.  Do the teams that passed on him know something we don&#039;t?  Is is an AFC West thing?  I don&#039;t know.  Can&#039;t hurt, I guess.  But, I&#039;d still rather see a kid like Lance Long gets the reps and experience.  That could pay off big next year.  

I see Edgerrin James got released now, too.  Could he be next?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still suprised Chambers fell to the Chiefs.  Do the teams that passed on him know something we don&#8217;t?  Is is an AFC West thing?  I don&#8217;t know.  Can&#8217;t hurt, I guess.  But, I&#8217;d still rather see a kid like Lance Long gets the reps and experience.  That could pay off big next year.  </p>
<p>I see Edgerrin James got released now, too.  Could he be next?</p>
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		<title>By: gorillafan</title>
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		<dc:creator>gorillafan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniels was in trainging camp. Anyone know much about him?</description>
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		<title>By: Mike O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Page to IR, Travis Daniels signed.</description>
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		<title>By: ED</title>
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		<dc:creator>ED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disagree Bob at 31 I still think this guy can contribute. He&#039;s to me instantly better than Wade or Bradley. I think this may end up being the best addition at wideout under the Pioli/Haley regime. Give these guys credit at least their trying to do whatever they can as far as trying to improve the team this year. If Chambers comes in play with a chip on his shoulder and being in the last yr of a contract is enough motivation. 

Chargers released this guy because of the money. The really wasn&#039;t using him much. MOst of Rivers throws go at jackson and Gates anyways. Floyd show decent enough skill set to probably be a 2 receiver and he&#039;s cheaper player to keep around. LT will be let go next season as well he&#039;s not producing the way AJ Smith like either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disagree Bob at 31 I still think this guy can contribute. He&#8217;s to me instantly better than Wade or Bradley. I think this may end up being the best addition at wideout under the Pioli/Haley regime. Give these guys credit at least their trying to do whatever they can as far as trying to improve the team this year. If Chambers comes in play with a chip on his shoulder and being in the last yr of a contract is enough motivation. </p>
<p>Chargers released this guy because of the money. The really wasn&#8217;t using him much. MOst of Rivers throws go at jackson and Gates anyways. Floyd show decent enough skill set to probably be a 2 receiver and he&#8217;s cheaper player to keep around. LT will be let go next season as well he&#8217;s not producing the way AJ Smith like either.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Lloyd+</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Lloyd+</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chief&#039;s have 2 TE,s  ( Pope &amp; Cottman )
6&#039;7&quot; &amp; 270 --
Stay back with Cassel -blocking</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chief&#8217;s have 2 TE,s  ( Pope &amp; Cottman )<br />
6&#8217;7&#8243; &amp; 270 &#8211;<br />
Stay back with Cassel -blocking</p>
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		<title>By: Harold C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would even the best wide receiver in the league help us much with this o&#039;line in the shape it&#039;s in?  I think they are grasping at straws hoping desperately that something will work.  The tools we need are not on the market....yet.

At least I got to smile this past week.....the Broncos lost.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would even the best wide receiver in the league help us much with this o&#8217;line in the shape it&#8217;s in?  I think they are grasping at straws hoping desperately that something will work.  The tools we need are not on the market&#8230;.yet.</p>
<p>At least I got to smile this past week&#8230;..the Broncos lost.  <img src='http://www.bobgretz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tom Rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone needs to remember that Brett Farve does not play for the G.B. Packers any more.</description>
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