Monday Update 9/8
From the Truman Sports Complex
NFL veteran quarterbacks Chris Simms and Tim Rattay should be headed to Kansas City Monday evening and they are expected to workout for the Chiefs sometime on Tuesday.
Right now, it appears that QB Brodie Croyle will miss two to four weeks with the shoulder injury he suffered on Sunday in Foxboro against the Patriots. That leaves the Chiefs with no option other than to sign a quarterback to help them.
Both Simms and Rattay were rumored to be at the top of the list in New England for the Patriots to step onto their roster for the injured Tom Brady. But Chiefs sources say both quarterbacks left Foxboro without being offered a deal. It sounds like the Patriots must have something else working behind the scenes.
The Patriots announced on Monday afternoon that Brady will undergo sugery and is lost for the season. They placed him on the injured reserve list.
Simms is 6-4, 220 pounds, 28-year old former third-round draft choice of Tampa Bay in the 2003 NFL Draft out of the University of Texas. He’s not played in a regular season game since the third week of the 2006 season, when he suffered a spleen injury. Ultimately, he underwent a splenectomy and missed the rest of the ‘06 and the whole ‘07 season. He did play in the most recent pre-season for the Bucs, completing 19 of 30 passes for 155 yards, no TDs and one INT. He was sacked five times.
Overall with the Bucs, he played in 19 games, starting 15 and completed 59.1 percent of his passes for an average of 6.27 yards per attempt, with 12 TD passes and 17 INTs. That’s a passer rating of 71.2
Rattay is 6-0, 200 pounds, 31 years old and a veteran of nine years in the NFL. He was a seventh-round choice of San Francisco in the 2000 NFL Draft out of Louisiana Tech. He spent six seasons with the Niners, two years in Tampa Bay and part of last season with Arizona. He went to training camp in 2007 with Tennessee.
He’s played in 40 games, with 18 starts, completing 60.5 percent of his passes, for an average of 6.8 yards per attempt with 31 TDS and 23 INTs. That’s a career passer rating of 81.9.
The Chiefs are not interested in bringing back David Greene, who was with them at the end of last season.
Patriots aldready have 2 young Qbs on their roster that know the offense. Rattay and Sims are not much “veterans” since they are also both (almost) just as young.
How about Dante? I know he retired, but I bet for the right money he’d change his mind! A trade for Brady Quinn may not be a bad idea either. Move on from the Croyle era and continue with a youth movement elsewhere?
If Brodie is only going to be out two to four weeks, I would suggest not making a move at this point. I would have Damon Huard as the starter, Tyler Thigpen as the backup, and find a player on the roster to be the third quarterback.
What about Joey Harrington? I thought Peterson considered sign him when he left the Lions. I think he is better than the two mentioned.
Hopefully, wht NE has up their sleeve is a trade for Damon Huard. He knows their system, and would be a good back up for them. And we could get something for him, and sign a younger QB like Chris Simms.
Just say No To harrington. he’s a horror show, worse than Huard.
I’d like to see New England give us a pick for Damon Huard but I can’t imagine it happening.
Tim Rattay has been overlooked his enitre career because of his lack of height and arm but the fact is, he’s been successful everywhere he’s been, he picks up offenses quickly, and would be a better option here than Huard due to his respectable mobility. Rattay is the player I vote for hands down. Simms and Harrington are overrated and should have joined Culpepper in retiring.
Also, maybe we should bring Marques Haggans up from the practice squad. We need a 4th WR and he also has served as a 3rd string QB in St Louis.
I agree totally on trading Huard…
I think that sims would be a good up grade for now him and herd would take over things nicely and get the missouri QBif it took the farm todoit
Simms has been just as injury prone as Brodie . I agree with the blog about Harrington. Hey Bob what is Harrington completion average how many games has he missed with injuries . Harrington has to be as good or better then Huard they both know how to throw INTS
First, no way on Donte. He is a human turn-over, and his attitude is sickening. Second, someone please explain to me how the solution to your starting quarterback going down is to trade away your back-up. Does not compute.
Does anybody think we would actually get anything for Huard? Didn’t we only receive a 4th or 5th round pick for Trent Green (who was very successful in KC)? I can’t imagine getting anything better than a sixth round pick for Huard(who has been average at best for the Chiefs).
Don’t forget that Simms is a lefty. Our right side (his blind side) of the O line isn’t exactly what I would consider solid.
How about we trade LJ for Brady Quinn. Dont get me wrong I like Brodie but reality it that he has to be on the field to grow and develope.
Harrington is a waste and Daunte is washed up. No thanks. I’ll pass on both of them. Yes, Quinn is nice but he is also what they call a “pipe dream”. It is going to cost us plenty in order to get him and that is even assuming that Cleveland would be interested which is not likely. I figure Cleveland will start Quinn next year. Also, it makes zero sense to trade our franchise RB. None of the other RB’s fall into either the every down back catergory nor the elite RB catergory and with an O-line like ours we will need an elite back just to have a decent run game.
LJ is untradeable with his current contract. No dice, even though Brady would be nice…
Also, the Patriots only have 1 qb on their roster because Gutierrez was released.
The Chiefs would be well advised to simply slog through the 2008 season with what they have currently:
1) A perpetually wounded starter that has no long term future in the NFL as a starter in Croyle.
2) A journeyman aging vet in Huard who might hold together for the remaining 16 games in some fashion.
3) A green, raw rook in Thigpen who’s future is anything but certain as a future contributor.
These other guys like Simms or Rattay are not any better than the above. Bottom line, Croyle is a bust and it’s time to go draft another QB only this time, make sure he’s worthy of the pick in the FIRST round.
How long can we live with this rebuild?
If Brodie is not the man, then 2008 might as well be forfeited, why get anyone else hurt?
No answers here that is why Carl and Herm get the big bucks.
Not all of the answers come easily. NE lot a good QB in wk one, We lost a qb. There is an answer we just do not see it yet. Is there a 7th round sleeper on the waiver wire? Let us all rally and show DH some respect, miracles happen every day. Who was Tom B before Drew B got hurt? The chiefs are just like the weather in KC, if you don’t like it wait five minutes it will change. DOG
I agree with the earlier comment. Let’s bring in a veteran to finish the year in a competitve fashion, and let’s go for Chase Daniel to be our guy for the future.