Monday Morning Cup O’Chiefs

What happens on the field with the 75 or so players who will take part in the Chiefs OTA sessions starting Monday is what’s important in the big picture.

But for these first sessions, the attention will focus on the little picture, in this case the players who are not there. Will unhappy Pro Bowl guard Brian Waters (left) set aside his feelings and take part? After missing the veteran’s mini-camp before the NFL Draft, will LB Mike Vrabel become part of the Chiefs for the first time?

OTAs are a name the NFL and the NFL Players Association came up with to describe these off-season sessions. They are in essence practices, where players are allowed to wear helmets, but no pads. There is not supposed to be contact as the players practice, although that’s nearly impossible, especially when the offensive and defensive linemen start getting after each other.

Under NFL rules, teams are allowed to have 14 of these practices in the off-season, along with a mandatory three-day mini-camp. All of those sessions for the Chiefs will go down in the next four weeks.

With the practices also comes classroom time, as assistant coaches and players review tape and exercising the mental side of the game.

While the three-day mini-camp June 5-6-7 is mandatory for all players, these OTA sessions are voluntary. But all the players are expected to be there, whether veteran or rookie. Only fourth-round draft choice CB Donald Washington and college free agent LB Corey Smith are not allowed to take part because their schools will not finish the spring semester until the second week of June. Whether players are still attending school or not, the NFL does not want them on the team’s campus until the semester is done on their college campus. It doesn’t matter whether the player is graduating or has dropped out of school. Washington, in fact said he would be graduating from Ohio State in June.

When Waters and Vrabel (right) missed the veteran’s mini-camp, along with since traded TE Tony Gonzalez, Chiefs head coach Todd Haley did not indicate any unhappiness with his missing players. They had all checked in with him, and since the three days of workouts were voluntary, no big deal was made.

That’s probably not going to be the case with the OTAs.

“You start to build some chemistry, some real football chemistry,” said Haley about the OTAs. “They are building chemistry now, working and sweating together. But I think once the line starts working together a bunch, the receivers and quarterbacks and tight ends work together, that type of thing, you start to make some real headway in building a team.

“We’ve had 65 every day (for strength and conditioning) and I’ve been happy about that,” Haley said of the attendance at the workouts. “I think everybody is on board right now. We’ve started to build that foundation with the work that we are doing and we have to continue to understand it’s still the ground floor. We can’t get too far ahead of ourselves in any area.”

Waters situation is known as he supposedly asked the team to trade him back in February after a bad first meeting with Haley. Whether the Pro Bowl guard shows up for these sessions will go a long way in showing how serious is his desire to get out of Kansas City. He understands how important these sessions are for this offensive line to jell with a revamped coaching staff.

Vrabel has been pretty much incognito since a few days after the trade that brought him from New England to Kansas City with QB Matt Cassel. Kansas City media types have tried to reach him, so far without success. Whether his absence to this point is a sign of unhappiness, or simply a slow start in his new surroundings, will make his attendance at these sessions very instructive.

There should be close to 80 players on the field for the OTAs. The teams all operate with an 80-man roster limit, but unsigned draft choices do not count in that total until they’ve signed a contract. So, the Chiefs could have as many as 88 players on the field. But right now they have 86 on the roster and minus Washington and Smith that makes 84 eligible for the sessions.

It would be a normal reaction for a first-time head coach and a new coaching staff to be anxious to finally work closely with the players on the nuts and bolts of the offense and defense. Haley admits that he and his staff have talked about making sure they don’t dump too much on the players too fast.

“We’ve had some talks about that, and there have been a lot of coaches who have done it different ways in different places,” Haley said. “Some of these guys have been on west coast (offense) teams and it’s training camp year round.

“That’s never been the way I was taught, thus it’s not the way I believe. This time of the year is pull back, hold your horses, there will be plenty of time. If we are not in condition and we are not strong, which keeps us healthy. We can’t compete no matter how many great ideas the geniuses have. We’ve got to be in shape and we can’t lose sight that it’s the off-season.

“Our first five OTAs, then we’ll start the veteran mini-camp and it will be those five (practices) repeated and then we’ll continue on and then when training camp starts, we’ll start back with those five practices. They’ll have a pretty good basis of knowledge on what we are doing.”

While the classroom work and practice time increases, the strength and conditioning program won’t go away. Haley and his coaching staff have seen improvement, but they need to see more.

“We are going to try to get stronger through the OTAs,” Haley said. ‘The lifting is going to stay at a high level. The running might go down a little more because obviously we are going to be doing more on the field.

“Everybody is getting excited now; this is when it gets rolling. It’s when you start installing. It’s when it has that real football feel, the daily grind.”

It all starts on Monday.


There’s no official announcement from the Chiefs, but Ryan Poles has been hired as a personnel department assistant.

At least that was the story in his hometown newspaper in Canandaigua, New York. Poles was an offensive lineman at Boston College and went to training camp last year as an undrafted rookie free agent with the Bears. When he was released by Chicago at the end of the pre-season, he did not know where his football career would take him.

But then came the opportunity to work for the Chiefs and GM Scott Pioli.

“One other thing that will be nice about this job will be the ability to learn from the best,” Poles said. “Mr. Pioli will be a good guy to work for. Before Kansas City, he was involved in putting together that first Super Bowl team in New England. This will be a good place to start my career. He will be an excellent person to learn the job from.

“No doubt my path to the NFL has taken a different direction, but a good one. There are a lot of people looking to get into this business. I was just fortunate enough to have had the right people to help me.”

Should you want to know more about Ryan Poles, here’s the link.


Born on May 18, 1963 in Murfreesboro, North Carolina was LB Tim Cofield. Signed as a college free agent, Co field played in three seasons (1986-88) and appeared in 43 games with 34 starts. He had 8.5 sacks.

Born on May 18, 1960 in Ansonia, CT was QB Sandy Osiecki. He was signed coming out of Arizona State, and appeared n four games in the 1984 season. Osiecki hit seven of 17 passes for 64 yards and one interception.

Born on May 18, 1947 in New York was WR Dave Smith. He appeared in two games with one start with the Chiefs in 1973, catching two passes for 20 yards.

Born on May 18, 1973 in Terrell, Texas was CB Darrius Johnson. He appeared in two games during the 2003 season.

49 Responses to “Monday Morning Cup O’Chiefs”

  • May 18, 2009  - Harold C. says:

    To those players that don’t participate in the things going on during pre-season wanting this or that and thinking that they don’t need these pre-season programs because they are good players and can pick up things quickly…

    It’s not all about you!!!!!!!!

    The above may be true….maybe you don’t really need the extra practice and maybe you can pick up on things quickly….what about the rest of your team mates that need to get used to playing with you? You being with the team can benefit how they play with YOU! You not being there can hurt the chemistry….meaning it can slow it down. Teams win games and championships….not individuals.

    If Brian Waters does not show up this time…..then he must not care about winning this year that much and I have little respect for him. Maybe he will show up. I hope so.

  • May 18, 2009  - Rip 'em a new one says:

    While the Haley/Waters feud may be nothing more than a tempest in a teapot, both guys have thus far painted themselves into a corner. Who will be the first to put aside pride and extend the olive branch?

    And once extended, will it be accepted or snapped in two? Waters’ only leverage is to sit out and hope to force Haley/Pioli’s hand. That’s his corner.

    Haley needs to shore up his Oline and doesn’t need his only all-pro lineman failing to participate. That’s his corner.

    We’re about to hear the OTA bell ring and see who comes out of their respective corners. Hopefully, each side can see their poor positions and realize they’re better together.

  • May 18, 2009  - Scott says:

    Brian Waters needs to get over it…and come to work.

    Of course he didn’t like the “22 guys off the street” comment from Haley. Who would? But you know…the truth hurts sometimes. On a team that’s won 6 games in two years…NOBODY is un-replacable. I’d like to see Waters remain on the team, but if he doesn’t want to be here…screw him.

    Whatever Vrabel’s deal is…is anyone’s guess, I suppose. If he doesn’t want to be on this team, then screw him too as far as I’m concerned.

    Neither one of these guys will make or break us.

  • May 18, 2009  - Tim says:

    Waters needs to continue to be a pro & honor his contract to the best of his ability…THE BEST of his ability. Anything less would be a stain on his character & reputation.

  • May 18, 2009  - colby says:

    Thank god OTA’s are here. I’m as anxious as anyone to see how the Brian Waters situation pans out. No one is talking about it, but if B-Dub doesn’t show, I still think that a trade for Boldin is a distinct possibility. Something like Waters and a 3rd. Would that cause our O line to be worse? Perhaps. Waters is getting older and could hit the wall sooner rather than later. Here’s how I see our line if Waters is no longer here.

    LT Branden Albert – This year, he’ll get the offseason to work and get better. He missed most all of the offseason last year due to injury. The LT spot will be better this year as the result of Albert’s development.

    LG Rudy Niswanger – He seems a more natural guard in my opinion. Will he be as good as Waters? Probably not, but I think he’ll be more effective here than at center. This spot will naturally be weaker, but maybe not horribly so.

    C Eric Ghiacuic – He’ll be better than Niswanger. He’s still young and has plenty of starting experience. Center is upgraded a fair amount as a result.

    RG Mike Goff – Sure he’s near the end of his career, but he should still be a major improvement over Adrian Jones. RG looks drastically improved.

    RT Damion McIntosh – Big D had to learn this position last year as it was the first time he’d ever had to play on the right side. I’m hoping he’ll be more effective this year. At the least, he shouldn’t be worse. If he is then one of our young guys will get a chance to play. I think the RT spot is about the same as it was last year.

    Agree or disagree, but the way I see it, even if the Chiefs trade Waters, we’re better at LT, C, and RG than we were last year. About the same at RT, and, naturally, not quite as good at LG. I think if Cassel has a trio of Bowe, Boldin, and Engram to throw to, our offense will be capable of scoring a lot of points, which will help our young defense as it’s completely rebuilt into a 3-4, which will be painful.

  • May 18, 2009  - Scott says:

    Good points, Colby. I think our O-line will be better than it was last year, too…with or without Waters. Not TREMENDOUSLY better…but better.

    I’d like to see Boldin here, too. I’d also be really surprised if it happened.

    I’m still concerned about who’s going to run the ball. I’d hate to have all of our eggs in LJ’s basket…if you know what I men.

  • May 18, 2009  - SG says:

    The Waters thing is a non-issue in my mind.

  • May 18, 2009  - tm1946 says:

    I agree with you, colby, but hope Waters is in his usual spot by the start of the season. Rudy N. looks like a backup to me but with injuries he might be more valuable as a C/RG/LG. But I have got to say Bowe, Engram, and a couple of somebodies are not going to cut it in the 09 season. I doubt Boldin makes it to KC and we are short in quality players at receiver even lump in Cottam at TE.

  • May 18, 2009  - Scott says:

    If you know what I MEAN. Not “men”. Damn typos. Would be nice to have an edit option…

  • May 18, 2009  - alex k says:

    Thanks for the update.

    Waters IMO will still be moved when he doesnt show, I hope he does show since im not positive we can get value for the guy.

    To me, a 3rd would be good value.

    As for everyone else outside of the 2 College kids Washington etc, they better all show…

    Lets just pray for a zero injury year.

  • May 18, 2009  - Scott says:

    tm1946 says:
    “But I have got to say Bowe, Engram, and a couple of somebodies are not going to cut it in the 09 season.”

    Well, hopefully Bradley can step it up. Or Darling maybe? And hopefully a couple of the new WR’s and rookies will turn out to be great players.

    That’s a lot of hoping, though…

  • May 18, 2009  - head cheif says:

    rin tin tin wtf are you talking about

    hey colby dont forget about mark bradley, bradleys been a good receiver for us, their was a few catches he made that were all pro kinda catches. maybe we dont need anquan boldin maybe we got a new anquan boldin in bradley

    scott im with you waters needs to quit feeling sorry for himself and go apologize to his boss, because pioli is his boss. if i didnt like something my boss said u bet your ass i wouldnt set around feeling sorry for myself and if i did id be fired quick most people would. these athletes need to realize that they dont run the show they get paid handsomly to do a job and they still bitch and moan about everything. if i was making theyr money i wouldnt bitch about nothing. in the words of a great scholar know your role and shut your mouth, Jabroni!

  • May 18, 2009  - SG says:

    “To me, a 3rd would be good value.”

    What will we get in 3rd round of 2010 that will make our 2009 roster improve exactly…making the leap of faith that the player they get provides sufficient value to be something greater than a scrub? Realistically, how many years do we think Waters has left?

  • May 18, 2009  - SG says:

    “maybe we dont need anquan boldin maybe we got a new anquan boldin in bradley…”

    Maybe we’ll all be better drivers with “above the legal limit amount of alcohol in our system too.” Somehow I doubt it.

  • May 18, 2009  - anonymous says:

    With a real off season strength and conditioning program now, (something the Chiefs lacked under the genius leadership and best buddy system of Herm Edwards)That alone should make a huge difference all across the O-Line.

    I too think the O-Line will be better than last season but, I would have liked for them to have singed the Center that went from the Ravens to the Rams (can’t recall his name off the top of my head) the guy would have been perfect, not only would he have dramatically improved the Center position, but having practiced against a 34 every day,and with more and more teams going to a 34, his experience would have been invaluable for both sides of the ball.

    Pioli blew it on this one. imo

  • May 18, 2009  - findthedr says:

    With Waters its all about the money. He feels underpaid and wants a new deal.

    The talk about his problems with the coaching staff is all smoke.

  • May 18, 2009  - Mark says:

    If Waters and/or Varbel are no shows, tney will shortly thereafter become Ex-Chiefs and good riddance. If you’re not all-in, you’re out. No more coddling.

  • May 18, 2009  - Mark says:

    May 18, 2009 – findthedr says:
    With Waters its all about the money. He feels underpaid and wants a new deal.

    The talk about his problems with the coaching staff is all smoke
    Probably with Vrabel also, since this is the last year of his contract. Bob says KC reporters have tried to get hold of Vrabel, but evidently not so hard. He was always opne of the more accesible guys in NE, and if he’s silent, there’s a reason. They should be contacting his agent, his ex-teammates. I know KC reporters are used to carl spoon-feeding them the stories he wanted out there, but now it’s time to do some actual reporting for the fans.

  • May 18, 2009  - SG says:

    “He feels underpaid and wants a new deal.”

    Sounds like a question he should be asking of his agent – while he plays like a Pro Bowl caliber player. One also wonders if he simply wants to avoid practicing.

  • May 18, 2009  - SG says:

    “…will shortly thereafter become Ex-Chiefs and good riddance.”

    How many more season-long training camps would you like exactly – assuming you actually do root for this team?

  • May 18, 2009  - Scott says:

    SG says:
    “One also wonders if he simply wants to avoid practicing.”

    Could be. Maybe he doesn’t like the idea of having to bust his ass…after enjoying Herm’s Country Club the last few years.

  • May 18, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    anonymous says:

    “I would have liked for them to have singed the Center that went from the Ravens to the Rams (can’t recall his name off the top of my head)”

    - now now – setting Jason Brown’s hair on fire won’t help Kaycee’s sorry situation at center. But I agree with you: whence as the Chiefs you are caught between a guy-check and another guy whose surname envisages a not un-pleasant body member, well…it screams 9 alarm fire alright.

    “Pioli blew it on this one.”

    - no comment… only that he’s blown it before & likely will again during his engagement in KC – in a football sense, of course.


  • May 18, 2009  - SG says:

    “…whence as the Chiefs you are caught between…”

    You – as in a phrase (singular or plural) – not to be mis-construed as “we.”

    “…it screams 9 alarm fire alright. ”

    This point appears accurate.

  • May 18, 2009  - SG says:

    “…enjoying Herm’s Country Club the last few years.”

    Is that the reason the training camp is being moved to St. Joes — so they (the county and city(s) can tax the dues revenue from the new country club?

  • May 18, 2009  - Mark says:

    May 18, 2009 – SG says:
    “…will shortly thereafter become Ex-Chiefs and good riddance.”

    How many more season-long training camps would you like exactly – assuming you actually do root for this team?
    As many as Todd Haley is allowed to have. I guess you root for Herm Edwards, rather than the Chiefs, if you want to see his soft ways continue. Haley is trying to get this team in shape after Herm’s neglect and coddling. If Waters and now Vrabel don’t want to participate, again, good ridddance. Go join Herm in the braodcast booth.

  • May 18, 2009  - SG says:

    “As many as Todd Haley is allowed to have.”

    2008 (in case you were out of the country) – was a season-long training camp/country club hosted by Herm. Some of us would like to see one or two of the players expected to be in the Pro Bowl still on the roster when the regular season starts. Maybe more than 2 wins should be a goal of this team for 2009 versus trading the best on our roster for 2009 picks (cutting our cap number) in hopes of either starting over from scratch next season or selling the team – whichever comes first. Although I’d love to make a fool of Herm in the broadcast booth, I’d rather follow this team (for the 26th year I’ve done so) with my team’s best players actually on the roster rather than someone else’s (reference past posts on TG #88).

    Unless…of course…you think this by-line “Veteran Wade Smith stepped into Waters spot at LG” is actually a viable solution…

  • May 18, 2009  - Scott says:

    Jason Brown – $37.5M/5 yrs, $11M SB/$9M base guarantees; 2009 cap: $6.2M.

    For comparison:

    Jeff Saturday (Colts) – $13.3M/3 yrs, $7.45M SB; 2009 cap: $3.98M.

    I’d say the Rams paid WAY too much for Brown. Just because there’s a FA available for a certain position…doesn’t mean he’s worth the money. So, I hardly see how Pioli “blew it on this one”.

  • May 18, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    SG, who, more so referenced “something in the way you (Rin) move…attracts me like no other…”

    A regular subscriber! Alas, wrong on the one, da***d we are as a pair o’ fans on the other…

    Poetic license nee prerogative the creator this appears lost on you… as well shades of ocular green gazeth yours upon visage, mine – more so the narrative any most all, Rin…enjoy!


  • May 18, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Mark says:


    - and you too Mark, hath only eyes for ‘search’ & ‘check’.


  • May 18, 2009  - SG says:

    “Neither one of these guys will make or break us.”

    “Veteran Wade Smith stepped into Waters spot at LG” Be afraid Scott…be very afraid…lol…

  • May 18, 2009  - SG says:

    Rin Tin Tin – who referenced the superior skills of Otis Taylor and Mr. Arbanas, hopefully “…as the Chiefs you are…” was simply a mis-understood phrasing and not written from one who would turn to silver and black.

    I fear – Oakland called back already – the long ago proposed trade involving a package of clean diapers has been shot down.

  • May 18, 2009  - anonymous says:

    I think Mark has it right.

    Money! Money! Money!

    I suspected that with Waters right off, in fact had a conversation with a local radio host on that very topic, right after all the drama in Feb. But I didn’t realize that Vrabel was on the last year of his deal. That puts more doubt into how good of a deal this trade was for KC.
    I’ve no problem with Vrabel wanting a new deal, but Waters still has 3 years left. NO WAY in hell can he say he’s outplayed his contract!

    HE needs to get his ass to KC!

  • May 18, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    SG says:

    “Rin Tin Tin”

    - yes, what is it now?

    “- who referenced the superior skills of Otis Taylor and Mr. Arbanas”

    - probably this scribe – many times, amongst others who…


    - rest assured, didst I…verily did.

    “as the Chiefs you are”

    - no, but as a life-long humble fan only yes, am…must suffice.

    “was simply a mis-understood phrasing and not written from one who would turn to silver and black.”

    - fortunate that I came along, otherwise, just as Cioran referenced Rin’s ‘Bach’ to Al Davis ‘God’: “without Bach, God would be a complete second rate figure” – Cioran added – “Bach’s music is the only argument proving that the creation of the Universe can not be regarded as a complete failure.”

    “I fear”

    - I can understand that…but I shant smite thee, least not yet…

    “- Oakland called back already – the long ago proposed trade involving a package of clean diapers has been shot down.”

    - make sure they have your soiled pager # too… ’tis more ‘Depends’able than land or cell.


  • May 18, 2009  - anonymous says:

    If you would pull your face outta Hunt’s wallet, you would see that Cap money is not an issue the Chiefs have to worry about! They have TONS of (over $30M) cap space! Maybe you never realized or have forgotten, the Center is the Anchor of the O-line and would be well worth the money!

    Ask your self, where did the player come from that put Croyal out w/ shoulder injury, where did the player come from that put Croyal on IR (the one that him low) They came right over the Center!

    I am all for the new management, but with the Chiefs having as much cap space as they have, and not signing a guy like Brown, is imo, blowing it! Now, having said that, they may have tried and maybe Brown wanted no part of being a Chief.

    Either way, the Chiefs are going to have to Spend some F’N Money!

    They HAVE to spend some money to improve this roster, unless their going to continue, as they have for far to long, to shop in the bargain basement of NFL free agency.

    Where has that gotten them?

    So you can relax a bit and stop defending every time some one questions Pioli, he is not infallible!

  • May 18, 2009  - Rip 'em a new one says:


    This is the WHAT HAVE YOU DONE LATELY league for free agents and vets via the trade route. In case you’ve missed it, the Chiefs are the now current Bengals and Lions.

    Not liking to say it, but someone had to do the deed. Scraps and oldsters are what the Chiefs can attract until they turn this plane back into the wind with considerable lift under their wings.

    Sure, the mercenary types will come, maybe like Boldin, but only if the Chiefs are willing to meet the price and overpay in compensation.

  • May 18, 2009  - SG says:

    “yes, am…”

    Sufficient albeit long-winded response…lol…

    I guess we won’t try again to trade you to Oakland for now.

  • May 18, 2009  - SG says:

    “Not liking to say it…”

    Not so convincing in the delivery there bud.

    “Scraps and oldsters are what the Chiefs can attract until they turn…”

    Thought we were already off the CP train.

  • May 18, 2009  - anonymous says:

    Dead on Rip!

    And the only way to do it is, by signing guys that add more to the team than just what their position require on Sunday, but also what they can add to the rest of the team from their experience.

    That’s why you over pay for a guy like Brown!! If, you agree that he was over paid.

  • May 18, 2009  - Scott says:


    I was merely pointing out that a guy like Jeff Saturday signed for quite a bit less money than Brown did. And I’d take him any day over Brown. And of course Brown would have been an upgrade over what we have…but it makes no sense to overpay in free agency. If you’re going to throw down THAT kind of money, you need to get somebody like Boldin…or a game-breaker type player. Not a center. That’s just my opinion of it.

    I realize that Pioli is not “infallible”. I just don’t see any glaring errors yet. He’s doing exactly what he said he was going to do. We won’t know the results until Sundays this fall.

    And I doubt if he’s done spending Hunt’s money just yet.

  • May 18, 2009  - anonymous says:

    Saturday has been a very good player for a long time, but he’s got, what, 1,2 maybe three years left max. He’s old, man! Brown is just hitting his peak, he could easily play 6-8 more years.

  • May 18, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    SG saying, in response to “yes, am…” and too his own “Sufficient albeit long-winded response…lol…”

    - as SG(ee) – hanging suspended there, ‘pon the jagged rocks thereof, masticating on as well the imbibition e’ery last morsel Rin-dom – not to be confused with that other ledge (nee, rhymes with brim)- no, not gonna do it – wouldn’t be prudent as George of a Senior moment an many his opined.
    Get the drift? Well stop it.

    “I guess”

    - I don’t…ever…that is the difference ‘tween you and I, at minimum.

    “we won’t try again”

    - odd, I don’t recall accepting your application my gang o’ one…

    “to trade you to Oakland”

    - wouldst be easier sung than dun- done … as in the climbing e’ery mountain, fording e’ery stream.

    “for now.”

    - and e’er more, to wit…I’m the best, so just quit.

    Or naught…


  • May 18, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Rin: “I must say…”

    Fandom: ‘Must you Rin?’

    Rin: “Yes, verily ‘musts’ I … today has been quite enjoyable on the blog. There has been more of a witty banter and too a style evidenced than I recall hereabouts.

    Yes Virginia, football talk ‘can’ be entertaining as well informative. I curry no shame in said but will accept the credit therefore mine, a job well done. Thank you me!”

    It’s The Rin generation…hath created a monster!


  • May 18, 2009  - anonymous says:

    Step down “little man tate” it is me, that kick starts this hog!

  • May 18, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    anonymous says:

    “it is me, that kick starts this hog!”

    - and this I Rin, with an important announcement: auditions are now closed. But, we’ll pretend ’tis naught, just for the fun of it.

    How to say…anonymous, that be some of the worst method acting in blog form I’ve ever read nigh on seen. Well here – this time, really get into your blather- concentrate…focus… make the audience really believe in your character’s angst.

    Don’t call Rin, he’ll call you… some invective or other.


  • May 18, 2009  - anonymous says:

    Put your little thingy away Rin, it hangs, But, you Sir, can not! With me.

  • May 18, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    “you Sir”

    - good, we’ve consensus nee an understanding. Now, quit tuggin’ on (at minimum) my cape and leggo my ankle…


  • May 18, 2009  - anonymous says:

    Last word freak!

  • May 18, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    You are but penultimate…I am Rin!

    Rin > > anonymous


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