Comments on: Marcus On D.T.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:18:08 +0000

And nice post Rin.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:07:37 +0000

Nice words from Marcus Allen, a class act.

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:06:44 +0000

Derrick Thomas the best pass rusher? Ever? Heh heh heh hilarious!

He wasn’t even the best pass rusher in KC Chiefs history; that he had more QB sacks than any other player here is as saying a Henry Marshall was the best wide receiver because he caught more passes than any other (Marshall couldn’t carry the real #89′s shoes – Otis Taylor; neither could a Jerry Rice carry Taylor’s shoes but that’s for another blog.)

David ‘Deacon’ Jones – Bobby Bell – Rich Jackson – even Kevin Greene who played in Thomas era- all of them were better than KC’s newest nominal HOFr; Thomas ‘was’ “one of” the best of his era.

Thomas wasn’t the complete player that a Lawrence Taylor was either. Thomas probably does belong in the HOF as Rin stated earlier, but Thomas doesn’t compare with the best ever, his failure to crack even the top 10 all time list affirming, woulda, coulda & shoulda a losers lament.

Thomas is – as most the modern day over hypes – a media creation more so than the equal yesteryears best.

daddy-o

By: Harry

Harry — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:04:35 +0000

I was pleased just to be hearing from one of my favorite players, Marcus Allen. Only thing, Marcus, is I hate the word “wreaked.” I prefer “wrought” as in “What hath God wrought?” from the first recorded telephone call. Might’ve been the telegraph. Anyway, “wreaked” has an odor that “wrought” doesn’t. )

I’m not sure about DT58′s numbers for the rest of his career. His last couple years under Gun had him lined up in a 3-point stance, which was NOT the best thing for DT58. That D would’ve been better with a pair of REAL bookend DEs _PLUS_ Derrick Thomas roaming like a tiger back ‘n’ forth before the snap, threatening to flood the A, B and C gap ALL AT THE SAME TIME, causing FITS (and false starts) on the offensive front, just by his PRESENCE.

Thomas was STILL effective as a DE, drawing the doubleteam virtually EVERY down, but in the 3-point stance, offenses could plan how to stop him a lot more easily, and take him out of the game, figuring the expenditure of the extra hat was worth it.

By: SG

SG — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 03:24:22 +0000

Nice job BobGretz for your patient work in presenting the worthy case of DT58 – even when other sportswriters were publishing their votes against and their comments concerning him in the national media.

By: gorillafan

gorillafan — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:52:13 +0000

Good point Scott,

THANK YOU MR GRETZ FOR MAKING THIS HAPPEN FROM ALL OF US TRUE FANS!!!!!!!

By: Rip 'em a new one

Rip 'em a new one — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:10:10 +0000

Marcus Allen was and is a class act. I’m glad the Chiefs got him for 5 years of his remarkable NFL career. Well said, #32. Well said.

By: SG

SG — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:41:33 +0000

Indianapolis Colts First downs 27 Rushes – yards 32 – 142 Pass 22 – 30 – 292 yards 0 INT Sacked – yards lost 1 – 12 Punts 0 – 0.0 Fumbles – lost 0 – 0
Final score 38-31 (Indy)

Would these numbers be different if #58 was on the field on this day? I think so.

By: Scott

Scott — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:40:26 +0000

Not really anything to add to Marcus’ letter. It pretty much says it all. Very well done.

And once again thanks to Mr. Bob Gretz for playing a big part in getting DT where he belongs, in the HOF. There was no one better for the job.

By: jimbo

jimbo — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:37:27 +0000

Derrick Thomas made me believe in the KC Chiefs again. He became the face of the franchise almost from day one. I bought my first official Chiefs jersey because of him. (was expensive then, because I had 4 growing kids at the time). He was the reason I could’nt miss a game, or for that matter a single play. He made everybody on the team play better. A man with great work ethics & just created a high octane energy that was contagious in the locker room & on the field.
Almost single handily turned Arrowhead into a magical & intimidating arena.
His personal philanthropy of time, money & dedication to the young, the hungry, the poor & the illiterate is legendary. A bright spirit that will transcend for years to come.
He left KC a better place than when he arrived & absolutely nobody can argue that.

I miss him, & his never ending smile.

Canton Ohio will now be a better place.

By: SG

SG — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:35:04 +0000

Well said Mr. Allen.

“…would probably be regarded as the best pure pass rusher of all time.”

Not to mention…would Gun have been head coach on a playoff team…or if Vermeil took over with DT58…would there be another Lamar Hunt trophy (or dare say…Lombardi Trophy) at One Arrowhead Drive?

By: Mike in MO

Mike in MO — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:07:20 +0000

What a wonderful tribute to Derrick.

By: gorillafan

gorillafan — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:43:53 +0000

Colby, I always had thought the same thing. If he had been able to live a full life, more people would have recognized him and he WOULD be the best, even above LT. I think out DT was better than LT anyway in my book

By: colby

colby — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:25:13 +0000

It’s hard not to wonder how many sacks and forced fumbles Derrick would have had had he not met such an unfortunate end. I truly believe he would have had near 200 sacks and 70-75 forced fumbles and would probably be regarded as the best pure pass rusher of all time. It’s fantastic that he has been enshrined as it’s always a marvelous occasion when a Chiefs goes into Canton.

By: Rin Tin Tin

Rin Tin Tin — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:08:40 +0000

ok…

Thomas enshrinement not so much daddy-o as Rin but reasonable, one supposes – least one more Chief be added to the honor role.

By: anonymous

anonymous — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:06:49 +0000

Amen