You’d probably be on the winning side of a tennis match with me…a chess match though – there’s a reasonable chance you’d find yourself being ‘check’mated!

And Dorsey (LSU) & McBride (Tennessee) haven’t… have they ‘al k’ – aka, ‘defeated again’.

heh heh heh

Game, set, match – Rin! brand ‘al k’ was ne’er e’en in the game…

Anyone got a feel for how this offseason will shape out in terms of signing players with “Search” at the helm? Are we looking at any hold-outs or will our guys be in camp on time?

“rin”

- yes, what is it now dead one walking?

“you are “killin” me?”

- like a frog slowly being scalded to death, one degree at a time atop the stove football blogdom.

“HOW?”

- that you even have to ask affirms said…

“With your amazing argument that drummond has more years on Lawrence therefore hes better….this is a what have you done for me lately type of league, Lawrence hasnt had the chance to show this, K-Rob Did, and K-Rob failed, the comparison to Drummond was off of his 1 move style and lack of speed. By no means did K-Rob have the success of Drummond…. You are one of those people who thinks that just because you have some strange style to your moronic writing, that you win arguments instead you just look really really stupid.”

- can you repeat all that – Rin wasn’t listening to you…again.

“As for asking Bob to get rid of you, it has nothing to do with”

- of course not; your ‘work’ here speaks for itself…’servee’

“your percieved victory, it has to do with the fact that you post nonsense. ALL the time. You are hated by CHIEF fans on this board, what does that tell you?”

- Rin is still here…what do you think?

heh heh heh

You are one of those people who thinks that just because you have some strange style to your moronic writing, that you win arguments…instead you just look really really stupid.

As for asking Bob to get rid of you, it has nothing to do with your percieved victory, it has to do with the fact that you post nonsense. ALL the time.

You are hated by CHIEF fans on this board, what does that tell you?

“yes, eddie drummond was slow, one step, one move, SAME returner as robinson, could he be successful? MAYBE, but he WASNT whereas Lawrence has yet to get his shot.”"

- Drummond was successful and in the league for many years – even had he been in said for only one twould’ve been one more than Lawrence will be…

“Just quit while you are getting owned”

- Rin loves it when they beg, which is to say:

(alex k speaking to Bob G)

“Bob, Rin is making me look foolish & I can’t do anything about it- will you help me Bob please?!
Rin’s killin me Bob G, He’s killin’ me!”

“Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait”

- time waits for no man…neither too doth Rin Tin Tin!

“Rin, NO NO NO”

- I love it when they beg…

“there is no way, NO way, that you can argue school size affects who is a better returner between robinson and lawrence”

- competition, knave. Shall I leave a connect the dots nee color by the assignment for you instead?

“did robinson lead COLLEGE football in returning? Yes”

- did Lawrence? No – he didn’t even lead his ‘own’ team.

“but he also struck out last year as a returner in the NFL.”

- he struck out to the tune of 8.5 per PR and had the longest return of the season; he also had 22+ yards per return kickoffs…how long have you had myopia?

“I bet all recievers drafted In Jerry Rice’s draft year were better due to playing at a bigger school right?”

- I bet big school LSU Tyson Jackson drafted at #3 was better than all the other players Chiefs could’ve drafted – or gotten if a true personnel man had been in charge for the Chiefs & could’ve swung a trade for more picks… six of one, half a dozen of the other.

“Rin Tin Tin is by far the worst part of this website.”

-how nice of you to ‘notice’ – and fail to pass without being able to ‘not’ mention His name… you are welcome to your opine, as am I to mine: Rin won’t say what his be of you; that would be uncivilized…

heh heh heh

“Bob, Ban Rin, hes just an idiot. Its one thing to have an opinion, its another to just make stupid stupid statements.”

- Bob G, ban alex k, for he is a lost soul who vexes not only his spirit but everyone else’s…

“oh and Rin”

- please, no fawning o’er me without a reservation…make an appointment first.

“if Lawrence is on the P.S this year, it beats where Kevin Robinson is.”

- Robinson made the Chiefs in his first season… Lawrence will not. Clear, crystal?

Anything else before I deposit you next the curb again? Rin can take it a little slower for your benefit if need be…

Just quit while you are getting owned.

cough.

Rin, NO NO NO

there is no way, NO way, that you can argue school size affects who is a better returner between robinson and lawrence, did robinson lead COLLEGE football in returning? Yes, but he also struck out last year as a returner in the NFL

I bet all recievers drafted In Jerry Rice’s draft year were better due to playing at a bigger school right?

Rin Tin Tin is by far the worst part of this website.

Bob, Ban Rin, hes just an idiot. Its one thing to have an opinion, its another to just make stupid stupid statements.

heh heh heh

Larry Marshall was too slow, so too Ed Podolak… yet both were excellent punt returners.

Jimmy “Don’t Call Me Duncan” Hines was a 9.1 100, Clyde “The Glide” Glossen 9.2 100 – both w/speed world class sprinters…forunners a Lawrence who will stall out just the same…

He came to the NFL and was a step too slow, Lawrence runs a 4.2….

Sort of wish local reporters would have uncovered the over weight situation with the Chiefs. Makes you wonder, everything is a secret in KC but some out of area guy can get info??

Chiefs to retire No. 58 worn by 2009 Hall of Fame inductee Thomas

Associated Press
KANSAS CITY, Mo. — The Kansas City Chiefs will retire the number worn by late Hall of Fame linebacker Derrick Thomas during a ceremony Dec. 6.

Derrick Thomas, LB

Height: 6-3
Weight: 255
Seasons: 1989-1999
Sacks: 126.5
Thomas’ family also will be presented with his Pro Football Hall of Fame ring at halftime of the Chiefs’ game against the Denver Broncos at Arrowhead Stadium.

It’s fitting that the ceremony will take place as the Chiefs face an AFC West rival whose Hall of Fame quarterback Thomas frequently bedeviled. Thomas sacked former Broncos passer John Elway 14 times at Arrowhead Stadium.

Thomas wore No. 58 during his 11 seasons with the Chiefs. He died in February 2000 of injuries from a car accident. He’ll be inducted into the Hall of Fame on Aug. 8 in Canton, Ohio.

Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press

Though neither player is big per se QL is smaller than Robinson & while quick doesn’t have the same elusiveness as a Robinson – which is what made up for the latter’s lack of great speed.

Robinson played at Utah St. compared to Lawrence who played at McNeese St – Robinson had 8 career return TDS in college, 4 KR & 4PR…Lawrence had but 1, a PR. Robinson had 21 receiving TDS and 1 rushing; Lawrence had 15 TDS receiving 0 rushing.

Watching Robinson in 2008 he looked good as a PR, not as good at KR- the opposite of fellow rookie Dantrell Savage, who looked better at KR than PR.

Bigger school, bigger body, better production for Robinson … smaller school, smaller body, lesser production for Lawrence.

Elusiveness = Robinson … Speed = Lawrence.

Rin’s prediction: Lawrence ends up on the Chiefs 2009 practice squad – at best.

THANKS
Mr. Gretz

Lawrence can FLY, K-rob could not run very fast, he just had the eddie drummond one move follow the wedge.

Realize, without the basic wedge, the return game changes this year, to where a speed guy HAS to be at that spot to get to the outside.

I like barth, but lets face it, hes a 70-75 percent guy without the leg for long range. I think KC finally needs a long range kicker, as tynes was the closest we had.(Gansz Jr left, so did the special teams)

Succop has long kickoffs as well, and based on starting field position given up from last year, this will be key, if we can boot em 3-5 yards deep, and have one of the best coffin corner punters in the league, we will dominate field position

Like most fans of the Chiefs, I visit various board sites which will remain un-named but most of you know them well, only to find empty rhetoric in the main, some even quoting stats/stories from THIS site, and overall stale comments and topics.

This is my way of again, thanking Bob and the site for quickly establishing itself as the very best source of Chief’s info out there, INCLUDING, I might add, the KCStar. Oooops, just named someone, but they’re in the big boy business so they can take it.

Thanks again to Bobgretz.com for outstanding info.

Can someone out there explain to me the logic in delaying contracts on some of the later draft picks?

“I would say Lawrence has a better chance than Robinson just for the fact he isn’t coming in on the injured list.”

- uh-hah? AFLAC! In a way vague way your blog opine tries to make sense, and yet…

Robinson ‘made’ the team ‘08 despite his injury; Lawrence hasn’t yet – if ever will he – made the team, sans injury… so, the onus is on Lawrence who has not, rather than Robinson who did.

As the best Lawrence could do is make the team (only alternate being to not) your opine isn’t sequitur vis a vis your thinking that Lawrence has a ‘better’ chance. Better than ‘what’?

Rin reiterates; Lawrence has no better or worse a chance of making the team than Robinson did – the latter who did so despite an injury.

That is all…for now.

Mark Bradley
Jammal Charles
Brandon Flowers
Zach Thomas

How are they doing? The only thing I heard on Thomas was his leadership, but I havent heard anything on his play. Could you tell use how they are doing? Thanks

Those are good counter-points Scott and let’s hope yours are more accurate as it relates to the players in question than my take on their statements.

Good points. And that’s really why Pioli was brought here…to build us a team. TEAM. I hate to keep using New England as an example, but…that’s the type of team they have. They can lose a good player to FA, or to an injury…and there’s someone right there to take their place, because their roster is solid all the way through. Even losing their best player last year on opening day, they still went 11-5. Every player knows their job, or “role”…and they do it.

I don’t know about the rest of you guys…but that’s the type of team I want the Chiefs to be. And I truly believe that Pioli and Haley are the guys that are going to give it to us.

And now, I feel a “search & check” rant coming. Take it away, JW.

I think the observation that these are the types of drafts to expect is probably accurate. I think some of these guys were drafted because they did understand what their role would be and would fit in. Don’t need a Larry Johnson being drafted behind Priest Holmes and then pouting when he didn’t start…

I like guys who know where they fit and buy into the system with reward in the future if they produce.

The Chiefs have tried it with little success over the years; some of the notables who tried:

WRs Jimmy Hines 9.1 100 & Clyde Glossen 9.2 100, and HB Grundy Harris 9.3 100.

The late Stone Johnson was the first memorable Chief who tried & tragedy aside may or may not have made it – perhaps a bit harder thence all told as only 33 roster spots were available in ‘63 & fewer teams pro football to audition for.

Some guys were football savvy enough to take some advantage of their great speed – CB Emmitt Thomas who came to KC a WR, ended a HOF’r – Noland Smith was essentially a KR who dabbled at WR; later, HB Warren McVea and WR Larry Brunson had more than a cup of coffee career wise. Later the Chiefs had a guy named Greg Hill … he was fast in a straight line; cutting/lateral movement? Not so much.

KC’s Quinten Lawrence has the odds against him, befitting his late round drafting. Injury aside he is small, especially for pro football circa 2009 – but he has that speed so if he evidences some wiggle, he has a chance.

Rin would say his chances are no better or worse than last years #6 pick Kevin Robinson.

I do understand your point about having confidence in yourself. I guess I just didn’t read the same thing as you did in their comments. Seems like a couple of intelligent guys who know what they need to do to make this team, to me. Because none of these players are a “lock” to be one of the 53.

I’d rather have the guy say that he’s here to win a job as the starter. Then the WR says he hasn’t returned the ball in college? How about: “I have skills to excel at whatever is asked of me”.

Small nags on my part but the comments of this late round group of draftees don’t give me a lot of confidence because they failed to show confidence in themselves.

By the way, another excellent overview Bob, and thanks for it.