Comments on: L.J. Finally Tips The Scale … Tuesday Cup O’Chiefs http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html Dedicated to providing the best coverage of the Kansas City Chiefs. News, commentary, reports, and exclusive inside information - daily! Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:44:03 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jody http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31702 Jody Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:24:09 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11521#comment-31702 When will they real with the "totality" of Haley being an in-over-his-head jerk? 1-7 people, Egoli and Hailme just lost their best friend in LJ now their incompetence is center stage again. When will they real with the “totality” of Haley being an in-over-his-head jerk? 1-7 people, Egoli and Hailme just lost their best friend in LJ now their incompetence is center stage again.

]]> By: David Henderson http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31701 David Henderson Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:27:59 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11521#comment-31701 Well for Haley's sake 4 and 12 is better than 2 and 14, GO CHIEFS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well for Haley’s sake 4 and 12 is better than 2 and 14, GO CHIEFS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31699 gorillafan Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:26:31 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11521#comment-31699 I think we can beat the raiders, bills, and browns but thats about it I think we can beat the raiders, bills, and browns but thats about it

]]> By: David Henderson http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31698 David Henderson Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:19:17 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11521#comment-31698 First and foremost thank you to all the veterans of the Armed Forces out there, God Bless America! Thank you to the Chiefs organization for doing the right thing, in my humble opinion of course. Is there anyone else out there that's scared that this weekend may be the last chance the Chiefs have to win a game? I just hope they play with a little more urgency at the first of the game. It seems to me they started the year the same way, then have learned to be better at the end of the game. Know they just need to put it all together and play good the whole game, and Haley please take a few chances at the first of the game, stretch the field and open the running game up! First and foremost thank you to all the veterans of the Armed Forces out there, God Bless America! Thank you to the Chiefs organization for doing the right thing, in my humble opinion of course. Is there anyone else out there that’s scared that this weekend may be the last chance the Chiefs have to win a game? I just hope they play with a little more urgency at the first of the game. It seems to me they started the year the same way, then have learned to be better at the end of the game. Know they just need to put it all together and play good the whole game, and Haley please take a few chances at the first of the game, stretch the field and open the running game up!

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31695 gorillafan Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:22:27 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11521#comment-31695 and not a better time than to steal our game back from the raiders!! and not a better time than to steal our game back from the raiders!!

]]> By: Hank http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31694 Hank Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:17:48 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11521#comment-31694 Devil Dog, You are spot on! We have not had a PASSIONATE running game in 3 years. The passion not only extends to the RB but also to the OL/TE/WR blocking for him. PASSION is what I saw out of KS,JC & DS last week in limited carries but I also saw the OL finishing blocks. I think the difference in the OL attitude/performance is enhanced just as much (and because of) the passion in the RB's now carrying the ball. This is what I will watch for THIS week. Devil Dog,
You are spot on! We have not had a PASSIONATE running game in 3 years. The passion not only extends to the RB but also to the OL/TE/WR blocking for him.

PASSION is what I saw out of KS,JC & DS last week in limited carries but I also saw the OL finishing blocks. I think the difference in the OL attitude/performance is enhanced just as much (and because of) the passion in the RB’s now carrying the ball.

This is what I will watch for THIS week.

]]> By: Devil Dog 1976 http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31692 Devil Dog 1976 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:08:07 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11521#comment-31692 I like many of you look forward to the passionate running game that has been hibernating. I think that the RBs that we have will begin to carve their niche and become known throughout the NFL. The motivation will spread like wildfire through the TEAM. One guy gets it going and the next guy steps up. They showed a little of their desire to win in the fourth Qtr. Next they are going to put together a whole game, watch and believe. In Coach Haley I trust... now we ALL should. It is all about the TEAM..... and the right 53!! A big happy birthday to all of you devil dogs out there, 234 years of providing freedom. And may we remember tomorrow those who provided our freedom. I like many of you look forward to the passionate running game that has been hibernating. I think that the RBs that we have will begin to carve their niche and become known throughout the NFL. The motivation will spread like wildfire through the TEAM. One guy gets it going and the next guy steps up. They showed a little of their desire to win in the fourth Qtr. Next they are going to put together a whole game, watch and believe.

In Coach Haley I trust… now we ALL should.

It is all about the TEAM….. and the right 53!!

A big happy birthday to all of you devil dogs out there, 234 years of providing freedom. And may we remember tomorrow those who provided our freedom.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31691 gorillafan Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:04:10 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11521#comment-31691 good point too Mad Chief i agree, he would have made a huge diff on this team good point too Mad Chief

i agree, he would have made a huge diff on this team

]]> By: Mad Chief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31690 Mad Chief Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:30:30 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11521#comment-31690 Yes sir...hindsight is 20/20. The same could be said for us trading back in the draft because Peterson didn't think there was a player worth taking at #17. We ended up with LJ...and Pittsburg picked a guy named Troy Polamalu with what COULD have been our pick. That long-haired wildman would have looked pretty good in red, if you ask me. Yes sir…hindsight is 20/20. The same could be said for us trading back in the draft because Peterson didn’t think there was a player worth taking at #17. We ended up with LJ…and Pittsburg picked a guy named Troy Polamalu with what COULD have been our pick. That long-haired wildman would have looked pretty good in red, if you ask me.

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31689 Jim Lloyd+ Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:48:48 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11521#comment-31689 The Chiefs have 4 tight ends , 2 that are huge and can move out , 45< 270@ 6' 8" 85 87< 270@ 6' 7" 89 The offence line needs help ,other teams have them back there ? The Chiefs have 4 tight ends , 2 that are huge and can move out , 45< 270@ 6' 8"
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The offence line needs help ,other teams have them back there ?

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31688 gorillafan Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:28:01 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11521#comment-31688 i think that if we traded him at that time, than we would have had the same crowd bitchn that carl let another good player go. so, yeah we should have traded him then looking back, but we didnt at that time and i understand why. i just call it bad luck... i think that if we traded him at that time, than we would have had the same crowd bitchn that carl let another good player go. so, yeah we should have traded him then looking back, but we didnt at that time and i understand why. i just call it bad luck…

]]> By: Pablo http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31687 Pablo Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:38:51 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11521#comment-31687 Keep the dream alive Cid... Even when the Chiefs were "good" in the 90's, it was all just an illusion. Flash and sparkles courtesy of Dick Vermeil. If we weren't up by at least 30 at the half then the game was still very much in the balance. But boy it sure was fun to watch!! WoW!! All that passing and the catching and the scoring!!! Never really took us anywhere...we couldn't go anywhere in the playoffs, because the flash and gimicks can only take you so far. Playoff teams have good defenses. Playoff teams adjust. All those fans looking back at the 90's with tears in their eyes, remembering the glory days are fools. The team wasn't good back then either, because it wasn't a complete team. It was just a flashy offense. Read off the list of NFL records set by the Chiefs from that era and you'd be flabergasteed to realize that not only did all those records not result in a Super Bowl win, they didn't even result in a playoff win. Carl and Dick did exactly what they were paid to do - fooled the fans into thinking that the team had a shot, that they were good, and they sold a lot of tickets. This team has been bleeding itself dry of talent for YEARS, like over a decade, but no one noticed. They patched it up with veterans on their last stop before retirement, had a couple of happy accidents with Gonzales and LJ (I'm still convinced drafting LJ was just a ploy to get Priest back to the contractual bargaining table), and just generally made do to be just good enough. Not good enough to contend for a super bowl, but good enough to keep fans coming back. That eventually ran it's course. All the fans crying for a return to the 'good old days' don't really know what they're asking for. All those who suddenly have run out of patience because the team is actually rebuilding for a change are still looking for the illusions of yesteryear. This team will not get better overnight. They suck, they will suck for at least another year. Changing the coach or GM will not make any difference at this point, because you are still starting over. Bring Cowher in here, bring Marty back, hell bring Bellichek in here, it will still take them more than one off-season to put the pieces back together. Keep the dream alive Cid…

Even when the Chiefs were “good” in the 90’s, it was all just an illusion. Flash and sparkles courtesy of Dick Vermeil. If we weren’t up by at least 30 at the half then the game was still very much in the balance. But boy it sure was fun to watch!! WoW!! All that passing and the catching and the scoring!!!

Never really took us anywhere…we couldn’t go anywhere in the playoffs, because the flash and gimicks can only take you so far. Playoff teams have good defenses. Playoff teams adjust.

All those fans looking back at the 90’s with tears in their eyes, remembering the glory days are fools. The team wasn’t good back then either, because it wasn’t a complete team. It was just a flashy offense. Read off the list of NFL records set by the Chiefs from that era and you’d be flabergasteed to realize that not only did all those records not result in a Super Bowl win, they didn’t even result in a playoff win.

Carl and Dick did exactly what they were paid to do – fooled the fans into thinking that the team had a shot, that they were good, and they sold a lot of tickets.

This team has been bleeding itself dry of talent for YEARS, like over a decade, but no one noticed. They patched it up with veterans on their last stop before retirement, had a couple of happy accidents with Gonzales and LJ (I’m still convinced drafting LJ was just a ploy to get Priest back to the contractual bargaining table), and just generally made do to be just good enough. Not good enough to contend for a super bowl, but good enough to keep fans coming back.

That eventually ran it’s course. All the fans crying for a return to the ‘good old days’ don’t really know what they’re asking for. All those who suddenly have run out of patience because the team is actually rebuilding for a change are still looking for the illusions of yesteryear.

This team will not get better overnight.

They suck, they will suck for at least another year.

Changing the coach or GM will not make any difference at this point, because you are still starting over.

Bring Cowher in here, bring Marty back, hell bring Bellichek in here, it will still take them more than one off-season to put the pieces back together.

]]> By: ThunderChief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31686 ThunderChief Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:11:48 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11521#comment-31686 Another like to go back to the eve of the 2007 season with LJ, coming off two bruising 400 or so carries in back to back seasons and shopping him around for draft picks as opposed to signing him to a new multi million dollar deal? Another like to go back to the eve of the 2007 season with LJ, coming off two bruising 400 or so carries in back to back seasons and shopping him around for draft picks as opposed to signing him to a new multi million dollar deal?

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31685 gorillafan Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:04:17 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11521#comment-31685 whether you agree with the decision or not, I think it had to be done to send a message and get this organization back on track to where it used to be. our franchise needs to be back with winning and winning players. we dont need to be labeled with dallas and oakland as having disruptive players. b/c in the long run, you cant win with them anyway!! whether you agree with the decision or not, I think it had to be done to send a message and get this organization back on track to where it used to be. our franchise needs to be back with winning and winning players. we dont need to be labeled with dallas and oakland as having disruptive players. b/c in the long run, you cant win with them anyway!!

]]> By: el cid http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31684 el cid Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:41:52 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11521#comment-31684 mis quote, my bad. My point is still how much worse could this season get. mis quote, my bad. My point is still how much worse could this season get.

]]> By: Josh http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31683 Josh Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:39:45 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11521#comment-31683 I believe the quote was "I am not as patient as my father". Just sayin... JB I believe the quote was “I am not as patient as my father”. Just sayin…

JB

]]> By: el cid http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31682 el cid Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:36:26 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11521#comment-31682 I am not a patient man - Clark Hunt. My, my how bad would it be this year if he were a "patient man". Rookie GM, Rookie HC, and gutted team. Necessary, maybe, bearable, no and headed for success, only in you dreams. I am not a patient man – Clark Hunt.

My, my how bad would it be this year if he were a “patient man”. Rookie GM, Rookie HC, and gutted team. Necessary, maybe, bearable, no and headed for success, only in you dreams.

]]> By: MenInRed http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/l-j-finally-tips-the-scale-%e2%80%a6-tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31681 MenInRed Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:01:46 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11521#comment-31681 Once again, this was a Clark Hunt move given to Pioli, Haley wanted & liked LJ and if he would of had it his way LJ would still be here. GO CHIEFS!!! Once again, this was a Clark Hunt move given to Pioli, Haley wanted & liked LJ and if he would of had it his way LJ would still be here.

GO CHIEFS!!!

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