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It’s Brady’s Bunch In Tampa … Friday Cup O’Chiefs

“If the guy wasn’t a worthy quarterback, he wouldn’t be in the NFL.”

That’s how Chiefs head coach Romeo Crennel described his new starting quarterback Brady Quinn. With Matt Cassel out because of a concussion, Quinn will start when the Chiefs face the Buccaneers in Tampa on Sunday. It’s his first start in the NFL since December 2009.

The last few years have provided evidence that the NFL is not convinced Quinn is a worthy starting quarterback for the league. Obviously GM Scott Pioli, Crennel, offensive coordinator Brian Daboll or some combination of that trio thinks otherwise, or they would not have signed him in the off-season to supposedly “compete” for the starting quarterback job with Cassel.

Of course we all learned that Pioli’s definition of competition and the dictionary definition are two very different things. Quinn was never given a shot at the starting job in the off-season or training camp. In fact he was told coming in that Cassel was the starter. Apparently, they wanted him to compete with Ricky Stanzi for the No. 2 spot. He certainly did that well enough in the pre-season, with a lot of help from Stanzi who was awful in August.

So now Quinn is the starter.

“I know last week was emotional just getting the opportunity to get back on the field again, so I don’t know (about starting),” Quinn said. “At this point I’m just trying to prepare myself for the situation … I hope to go out there and play a good clean game and give us an opportunity to win.”

A first-round draft choice in 2007 by Cleveland, Quinn has been in the league for six years now and played in only 15 games, with 12 starts. In that time-frame the league has played 85 regular season games, so Quinn has gotten on the field for only 18 percent of the games. Quinn spent the 2010-11 seasons in Denver where he never saw the field for even one play, this despite the fact the Broncos were no longer starting John Elway, but Kyle Orton and Tim Tebow.

At this point in his football life, any opportunity to play, let alone start a game is a very big thing for Quinn. He will get the chance to show the Chiefs or another NFL team whether his physical skills have deteriorated from not being used and whether his mental abilities (reading defense, making judgments, handling management of the game) have sharpened in any manner.

Quinn however, says he’s not looking at this game as an opportunity to salvage his career.

“There is no bigger picture,” Quinn said. “Tampa is a good team and we’ve got a big challenge ahead of us. There is no need for me or anyone else to be looking any further than this week or even tomorrow’s preparation.”

When asked to compare Cassel and Quinn, the head coach said there was only one major difference.

“They have similar skill sets; they can both throw the ball, they are both tall quarterbacks, they are both experienced. The biggest difference is Matt has more game time.

“You may not have ridden a bicycle for a long time, but as soon as you get on, you remember everything you need to remember.”

The last time Quinn started a regular-season NFL game was December 20, 2009 when he opened for Cleveland in its 41-34 victory over the Chiefs at Arrowhead. Since then, his only game action was the series of plays that he was part of at the end of the Baltimore game after Cassel was injured.

Quinn admits that sort of inactivity for a quarterback was very hard to take.

“To be honest with you, my faith has really allowed me to remain confident and to realize that God has a plan for me,” Quinn said. “For me personally, I’m just preparing. I’m trying to do all I can to prepare myself physically and mentally for that opportunity.”

In Quinn’s 12 starts with Cleveland the Browns had a 3-9 record:

Date

Opp

Result

A

C

%

Y

A/A

TD

INT

11/6/2008

DEN

L 30-34

35

23

65.7

239

6.83

2

0

11/117/2008

@BUF

W29-27

36

14

38.9

185

5.14

0

0

11/23/2008

HOU

L 6-16

18

8

44.4

94

5.22

0

2

9/13/2009

MIN

L 20-34

35

21

60.0

205

5.86

1

1

9/20/2009

@DEN

L 6-27

31

18

58.1

161

5.19

0

1

9/27/2009

@BAL

L 3-34

8

6

75.0

34

4.25

0

1

11/16/2009

BAL

L 0-16

31

13

41.9

99

3.19

0

2

11/22/2009

@DET

L 37-38

33

21

63.6

304

9.21

4

0

11/29/2009

@CIN

L 7-16

34

15

44.1

100

2.94

0

0

12/06/2009

SD

L 23-30

45

25

55.6

271

6.02

3

0

12/10/2009

PIT

W 13-6

19

6

31.6

90

4.74

0

0

12/20/2009

@KC

W41-34

17

10

58.8

66

3.88

0

2

A=attempts, C=completions, %=completion percentage, Y=passing yards, A/A=average yards per attempt, TD=touchdown passes, INT=interceptions.

Some statistical web sites grant Quinn a fourth-quarter, game winning drive against Buffalo in his second start. But drill deeper into the history and Quinn was a mere 2 of 6 passing on that drive for 28 yards. It finished up with a winning 56-yard FG from Phil Dawson.

Considering the offensive game plan the Chiefs put on the field for last Sunday’s game against Baltimore, Quinn should fit right in with the handoff and get out of the way attack. That’s exactly how the Browns approached that Quinn start in 2009 at Arrowhead against the Chiefs. That was the game where Cleveland RB Jerome Harrison set a franchise record for rushing yards in a game, going for 286 yards and 3 TD runs. Not even Jim Brown had run for as many yards as Harrison did that day for the Browns.

Still, the Chiefs led 24-20 at half-time. In the second half, as the Browns came from behind and took the lead in the third quarter, Quinn threw just 7 passes in the last two quarters. His longest completion of the day was just 11 yards and the Cleveland offense finished with 49 running plays, 17 passing plays or a 74/26 ratio of run to pass.

The week before when the Browns beat the Steelers, Quinn threw only 19 passes and in the second half of the game he hit just 1 of 5 passing attempts.

It seems like the perfect scenario for the Chiefs to repeat in Tampa what they did offensively against Baltimore. The only difference is the triggerman and that game plan limited his influence on matters.


20 Responses to “It’s Brady’s Bunch In Tampa … Friday Cup O’Chiefs”

  • October 12, 2012  - bhive01 says:

    “…
    It seems like the perfect scenario for the Chiefs to repeat in Tampa what they did offensively against Baltimore. The only difference is the triggerman and that game plan limited his influence on matters.”

    I really hope this isn’t the case. We have good receivers, I wish we would fscking use them. Maybe Maneri can get wide open again, but instead of throwing it into a crappy situation he could… you know… look around the field some?

    He’s got a good arm. If Quinn can get over the nervous nellies and get going I say we win this game.


  • October 12, 2012  - Canada Brad says:

    That last stat line is depressing. Only the Chiefs can lose a game 41-34 where the opposing quarterback completes a whopping 10 passes for 66 yards.

    Unfortunately, I can see our current 2012 Chiefs being able to do just that.

    Sad sad sad

    GO CHIEFS ??


  • October 12, 2012  - txchief says:

    It’s DREAD FRIDAY! Maybe with an extremely slow gring on the clock, pounding the ball on the ground, the Chiefs might have a couple more very low scoring victories this year. I just hope they spread the carries around enough not to wear out Charles.


  • October 12, 2012  - ChuckXX says:

    Just a couple of quick notes. Didn’t Cassel get hurt last year somewhere around the 9th game or so??? Now, he gets a concussion in the 5th game this season. Doesn’t that say something about your offensive line (or lack thereof) as far as their inability to protect the QB??? Two years in a row now!!!!! And secondly, Jamaal mount up baby and get ready for about 32 carries. And we all thought at one time that season was going to be different. Same O, Same O.


  • October 12, 2012  - johnfromfairfax says:

    “If the guy wasn’t a worthy quarterback he wouldn’t be in the NFL.” Isn’t that what they said about Palko? Perhaps it was the 3-9 record that convinced us to sign Quinn or maybe it was all the other clubs courting him until we got him. Oh that’s right, there weren’t all those other clubs after him. I hope he does well but let’s face facts. The fact is Quinn was a third string QB Pioli brought in after lying to the fans and saying he was going to provide competition at the QB position. Now that Cassel has been ineffective and is injured we have no other choice but to go with Quinn. Does anybody really think he is going to have a rebirth in the league and take us to the playoffs? Perhaps we can utilize our troglodyte offense to eke out a victory or two but I just don’t see how you win games long term in the NFL with a one dimensional attack. Of course you have to establish the run but the reliance on it to the level we’re seeing is how losing teams and teams without a viable quarterback attempt to keep things close and not get blown out week after week. It’s also how they use up their talented running backs and get them hurt when they have to take a constant pounding week after week from carrying too much of a load. Charles is a gifted running back. It will be a shame if we lose him or shorten his career so that he’s not able to play when we and if we do finally get a talented QB and can develop the offense to complement his skills. More to the point, you can’t even win consistently in college anymore if you can’t throw the football. I hope I get to eat my words and it has happened before but I don’t don’t feel good about the chances that will be the case this time. It just seems like another of those instances where we were sold a bill of goods and now we’re being asked what we’re going to believe, the next promise made or our lying eyes.


  • October 12, 2012  - Randall Webb says:

    The biggest problem for this franchise in the last 35 years has been the lack of play at the QB position. This franchise has had one great QB (Len Dawson) and one really good QB (Trent Green). The rest of those years we have had lousy QB play and that had dragged this franchise down. If the Chiefs had a middle of the road QB this season would look a lot different. Instead we are going into week 6 with no long or short term hope to ever see that playoff win. Until somthing is done about the most important position on the team, we Chief fans, will continue to be frustrated on Sundays. Scott Pioli should lose his job over this QB fiasco. The Chiefs had the money to keep Orton. They could have moved ahead of Miami to get Tannehill. They could have drafted Brandon Weeden or Russell Wilson. Instead here we are spinning our wheels in another lost season.


  • October 12, 2012  - leonard kryston says:

    I guess Montana was a bad QB. We are comaparing Quinn and 3-9 record to what. He has had 12 starts. 12. What are the records of other QB’s in their first 12 starts. There are some good, and some really bad. Cam newton had how many starts , what was his record. How about Manning his first 16 starts, Aikman. I mean you have to stick with someone, and put some players around them. Average QB’s look great with good players beside them. The bad for us was Cassel. Too many turnovers. Where would we be without the turnovers? If Quinn doesn’t turn the ball over, we win. Plain and simple. You whiners bitch about Martyball. But it would have worked last week, without the fumble on the 1 yard line. We have some good players, and they are angry, and hungry to win. Quinn keeps the ball, we win.Go Chiefs.


  • October 12, 2012  - traumaman says:

    Leonard, disrepecting martyball is not allowed on this sight. Nothing Marty did was as ugly as last week and Unlike Romeo, Marty’s plan was to actually win the game, not “keep it close.

    Forgive me for splitting hairs; Marty allowed Deberg to pass and unlike Cassel, DeBerg actually looked for an open receiver before throwing.

    I’m willing to conceed that finally, Cassel, due to constant defenseive duress and poor coaching, the mental progession to a PTSD Bono and Grbac clone is finally complete. Just As those two were promising talents and ruined by this franchise, so now is Cassel. You saw it here first, Cassel wants “no mas” of being a qb in the NFL after this experience. The “concussion” is a sham. Great guy, no arm and a pathetic franchise around him.


  • October 12, 2012  - el cid says:

    First, there is no reason the Chiefs cannot win sunday. TB is no a good team by record, as I do not follow them, got to wonder. The question is have the Chiefs turned a corner or not.

    Argue what you like or do not like, the 2012 Chiefs are malformed. The fans, some not to stupid, saw the addition of free agents, a draft that promised little “immediate” help, getting rid of Haley, and return of the injuried as a sign of the team being ready to make the move Pioli had been promising since hired. Has not happened so far.

    How bad will it be if posters are correct and Quinn is the “answer”? How will the Chiefs spin Cassel being the starter for 5 games with Quinn sitting on the bench? I doubt they can say – we were willing to lose games to make sure Cassel had no skills left.?

    Well the Chiefs can win and anything else is unacceptable.


  • October 12, 2012  - spellchecker says:

    @traumaman, Nice revisionist history. Marty orchestrated some real stinkers while leading the Chiefs. Thank God for the internet. Let’s just take his last year-1998. The Chiefs lost 23-7 to the Chargers, 40-10 to the Pats, 30-7 to Denver, and 28-7 to the Giants.


  • October 12, 2012  - Johnfromwichita says:

    Is anybody aware that we are one play away from seeing Stanzi on the field? Don’t fire Pioli; the jerk deserves prison time for this.


  • October 12, 2012  - txchief says:

    I’m no Pioli apologist, but I’m not sure who the Chiefs really culd have brought in this past offseason to “compete” with Cassel. Other than for Peyton Manning (who wouldn’t return KC’s calls) there were no other blockbusters on the free agent QB market. Keeping Orton would have been nice, but he’s probably only fractionally better than Cassel. I guess Hasselbeck was out there, but he’s really on the downslope of his career. I think most of the fans in KC would have considered Russel Wilson and Brandon Weeden as a big reach in the draft. Neither would have been given a chance to start ahead of Cassel by Pioli anyway.


  • October 12, 2012  - TimR says:

    Our talent at the WR & TE position don’t matter a lick if we’re not gonna use them & don’t have a QB that can play in a consistently effeective manner. Its a pretty low bar when the head coach Quinn & Cassel are essentially the same.


  • October 12, 2012  - el cid says:

    tx, I guess you are saying since Pioli would not allow anyone to play ahead or compete against Cassel, Pioli should not draft a QB. Should we sign Cassel to a longer term contract?

    Actually you may have a great point. Pioli may be the stumbling block to the Chiefs. His requirement that any action of the Chiefs include Cassel no matter what, seems to be THE problem.


  • October 12, 2012  - Niblick says:

    I wonder what happens if Quinn plays well and the Chiefs get a win. Let’s assume Cassell has been cleared after the bye. Will Romeo go back to Cassell and use the old premise of you never lose your job to an injury. If he does start Cassell, can you imagine the fan outrage against when he comes on to the field against Oakland. I guess we would know for sure that Pioli will go down with Cassell, no matter what.


  • October 12, 2012  - txchief says:

    Cid, no way do I want to see Cassel again under center for the Chiefs. Hunt needs to run Pioli out of town. He’s failed the organization. I want to see a new GM draft Geno Smith.


  • October 12, 2012  - Randall Webb says:

    Leonard, Montana was not a bad QB, but he was at the end of his career. We cannot keep rotating these guys in and out every couple of years. He played pretty good for us but that defense was what won a lot of those games. My point was Trent Green was the only QB since Len Dawson that was more than a stop gap guy. We HAVE TO DRAFT A QB and develope him. If we draft a QB thats a bust its no worse than drafting Tyson Jackson at #3. The new rookie wage scale has made taking a QB at the top of the draft more tolerable. This team has talent at a lot of key positions. The QB position is just killing us.


  • October 12, 2012  - napahank says:

    My question is simply this: IF KC could have drafted Quinn would you have wanted him? Was he an “elite” 1st round draft pick or a “early” round draft pick?

    Would he have been considered a QBOTF if we took him? If so, then years of maturity and experience (even if mostly mental reps ala Aaron Rodgers) makes him a low risk potentially high return QB…just not for the next 10 years.


  • October 12, 2012  - cychief24 says:

    Probably best to not respond to spellchek or LeonardK.

    I thought Quinn looked very good Sunday. Much quicker release than Cassel has now after working with Zorn. He actually looked off the safety too.


  • October 12, 2012  - Johnfromwichita says:

    cy, you’re right. Quinn looked good. Had a TD would of won the game called back because McCluster illegal pick. We’ll see on Sunday how good he looks after more than three passes.

    napa, give it up. Chiefs are not going to spend high draft pick on QB. Even if they did, and he was great, they’re not going to beat the price he could get in FA.

    Watch what happens to Bowe.

    Whatever the reason, and probably money, the Hunts believe they can still make money on a team that wins half or less of it’s games.

    Don’t even need fans buying tickets; they have TV revenue.

    Look at Tampa Bay. Nobody goes to games; season ticket holders have to buy ten years in advance. Team isn’t going broke; don’t have to win or fill seats. Thanks TV.




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