Insiders, Informed Sources & Other Crap

This just in, Kansas City’s NBC affiliate Channel 41 has reported that Vince Lombardi was spotted in the downtown bus station.

They believe Lombardi is here to interview for the Chiefs GM job.

OK, that didn’t really happen. But the way things are going, it’s not as farfetched as it might seem.

This same station was reporting on Wednesday that Marty Schottenheimer was seen at KCI Airport Tuesday evening.

Only problem was Schottenheimer was in New York, visiting his son Brian and his family.

How could this happen? Some wannabe news hound called the information in to several Kansas City TV stations. Channel 41 is the only one silly enough to put that information on the air without checking. That’s the way they operate over there.

But silliness is not limited to television.

There’s a very popular Internet site dedicated to NFL news and gossip called On Tuesday evening, the site ran this headline and story:


“There’s a strong rumor making the rounds in league circles that former Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil could return as team president following the departure of long-time G.M., president, and CEO Carl Peterson. It was Peterson who lured Vermeil out of retirement to coach the Chiefs in 2001, only one season after Vermeil¬†went bawling into the sunset after taking the Rams to a Super Bowl title. Though it’s possible that Vermeil will serve as G.M. as well, we’re guessing that the Chiefs will be setting up a Parcells-style structure in Kansas City, with a G.M. and a head coach reporting directly to Vermeil.”

Whoever passed this rumor on to the web site was either drinking or trying to make the site look bad. There’s no more chance of Vermeil becoming part of the governing structure of the Chiefs than the man on the moon.¬† Clark Hunt wants fresh eyes!

Get used to stuff like this in the coming weeks. There will be many more so-called insiders passing out information that they’ll indicate came right from Hunt’s mouth.

Many of the same people who say they have the inside track on info are calling Hunt a liar these days, saying he fired Carl Peterson. Hunt said on Monday that Peterson resigned after discussions between the two over the last several months.  Again, there are media types who always add 2 + 2 and get five because it fits their agenda.

I’ll wager you this: Clark Hunt will not conduct an interview with a potential GM candidate anywhere near Kansas City. And I’ll also wager this: if a candidate wants to talk to the media about his opportunity, his opportunity will go away very quickly.

Maybe it’s the sign of our times, but when did it become bad form to simply wait for an event to happen, and then analyze, dissect and quantify?¬† It’s a lot more efficient that way.

Instant gratification is not going to work in the search for a Chiefs GM.  The insiders will throw so many names into the hat that one of them is liable to be correct.

But just to keep you guys up to date, we are establishing a post and a category where we’ll track all the names rumored to be the Chiefs new GM.¬† On the right side of the home page it will be the top item under categories, A-LIST.

Every time we read or hear of another candidate, we’ll add him to the list.

You can read it here now, and remember just go to A-List for an update.


24 Responses to “Insiders, Informed Sources & Other Crap”

  • December 17, 2008  - Uncuffed says:

    Sure, Peterson wasn’t literally “fired”, but it’s not like Peterson would have come up with the idea all on his own if it wasn’t for the “discussions”, *cough*pressure*cough*, from Clark.

  • December 17, 2008  - JohnNdallas says:

    That STUPID ass kitzman was running with the report about Marty today.
    He got a nice little message from me on how disgusting his reporting on Petersons TERMINATION (LOL) was. I hope it made his eyes bleed!

  • December 17, 2008  - tm1946 says:

    Relax, do not let Keitman’s attitude bother you. Carl made lots of enemys over the years with his handling of the media. He tried to use the chiefs position in town to get media types fired (at least three). And paybacks are a beast.

  • December 18, 2008  - Gump says:

    At 4:45 AM there are 16 names on the list.

    How many names do you think will be floated out there? I think we should run a pool. I’ll take 27. Anybody else want to play?

  • December 18, 2008  - Justin Foote says:

    Tribal Warfare, that was a nice read. It would be great if Clark does it that way.

  • December 18, 2008  - TCharlton says:

    Gump, I say 32

  • December 18, 2008  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    To fix what ails the Chiefs organization, Rin is certain the successful candidate we choose must: be faster than a locomotive – able to bend steel in his bare hands, able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, change the course mighty rivers & who – disguised as an everyman type mild mannered GM for an NFL team, fights a never ending battle for truth, jutsice and the American way!

    That of course would be ________________.


  • December 18, 2008  - DavidS says:

    Bob, Realistically, when would be the appropriate time to select and announce the new GM? After the regular season, after the SB, or does it even matter by protocol?

  • December 18, 2008  - tm1946 says:

    National media is saying over and over that no one will take the GM job if it is mandatory to keep herm and staff. The new GM may keep herm but not if he has his own plan in mind. It could actually interesting what happens, rebuild on the rebuild with a group of young fire eating coaches with a fresh approach to the game.

  • December 18, 2008  - CarlM says:

    Tm-we know that most of the national media just say stuff to make people think they know what they are talking about. My words for them are egotistical blow hards. Kansas City is one of the premier locals for a new GM. And Clark did say the new GM would have to evaluate Herm and then they would make a decision on him. The only thing the new GM wouldnt like is that Clark said the final decision whether to let herm go was his. Now, if you were offered a million or 2 million dollars a year to be a GM of this franchise wouldnt you take it even if their were restraints. I know you hate herm and know what your evaluation would be too. That is why Clark is going outside of the chiefs and KC to hire a GM. I really hope they go with Scott Pioli

  • December 18, 2008  - B in SC says:

    KC is not the only opening in the NFL. To say that it is so attractive that anyone would take it even with restrictions is a bit naive. The top tier candidates won’t even listen if the job comes with restrictions up front. They don’t have to. Yep, Hunt said the final decision to retain or release Herm was his, but it is always that way. The person who signs the checks always has the final say. By saying it the way he did, he released the new GM from pressure if he decided to let Edwards go. It technically wouldn’t have been his decison.

    A guy like Pioli will have plenty of options. If Clark is interested in him, he couldn’t set a bunch of ground rules. The guy has turned down GM opportunities in the past. 1 or 2 million a year? So? The top guys will name their price. I think he has a pretty good gig in NE. To get him, it would have to be on his terms.

    The important thing is that the next GM be on the same page as Hunt. Everything else is details. We just started the rebuild so if the direction were to change, now is the time.

  • December 18, 2008  - B in SC says:

    Just to make a point about competition for candidates…

    The Browns job will probably be open and have these qualities:

    1) Vacant coaching staff (no decision to fire)
    2) Franchise QB, TE, WR, KR, and other good young players
    3) High draft position
    4) Excellent facilities

    Not that I think the Cleveland job is necessarily better, but to say KC is the “it” job, is crazy. With the right GM and coach, the Browns could easily rebuild like we are doing.

  • December 18, 2008  - colby says:

    My prediction, which could very well be wrong, is that Herm is gone. Maybe not immediately following our last game as Clark seems cool headed enough to take a few days to think about it, but certainly before he makes his move on a GM.

    Clark didn’t do much to endorse Edwards this week and since he made it a point to say he wanted a fresh set of eyes from outside of the organization, I’d think that would extend to the coaches and scouts as well. As much as I love to watch the Chiefs, even this year’s smelly team, I can’t wait to get these last two meaningless games over with so we can get on with our fan lives with a new GM.

  • December 18, 2008  - CarlM says:

    The 1 or 2 million is a mute point to make a point-B in Sc. And KC is more attractive to a lot of them. Carl Petersons tenure was 20years without a change. I know I would like to know where my paycheck was coming from for the next 20years. Your right KC isnt the “It” job. However they are more stable than any of the other jobs out there. And the way Clark was talking he is willing to pay for the right one. Colby he said he will have the new GM evaluate Herm before he makes a decision.

  • December 18, 2008  - colby says:

    The is fantastic. Well worth the time to read the whole thing thoroughly. Thanks Tribal Warfare.

    I’m not a big Jimmy Raye fan out in SD and don’t know much about the guy from Seattle, but I really like Mark Ross from the Giants.

    Perhaps I’ll be wrong, but I’d imagine a new GM will want to bring in his own guy and Herm hasn’t accomplished enough here in KC to merit Clark standing in the way. I simply interpret Clark’s tone and words in his interviews as a man who is ready to make this franchise truly his own.

  • December 19, 2008  - Chief TD Warrior says:

    Hey Gump, put me down for an even 24 names. thanx

  • December 19, 2008  - Chief TD Warrior says:

    all I need is 6 more at 141 am on 12/19

  • December 19, 2008  - Chief TD Warrior says:

    Larry, Moe, Curly, Chemp, Joe…. and Johnathan Winters rounds it out… Hot Damn! I win.

  • December 19, 2008  - JohnNdallas says:

    Oops! Sorry Chief TD Warrior but the count just went to 25, some dog has been nominated. And no I’m not referring to herm, who in there right mind would suggest that? It’s that other dog, you know! The mangy one!


    Keep up the unproductive work Coach Edwards. ALL of KC is sick of you and we know that you will make excuses and lead us back to 2 and 14 very soon now.

    AND NOW, Clark Hunt has RE-affirmed Herm’s The Man On The Hot Seat!


  • December 19, 2008  - JohnNdallas says:

    P.S. I would never call herm a dog, that would be an insult to canines everywhere, beside I have a dog and love her, would never insult my dog that way.

    In fact Fox (that’s my dog) wanted me to say….

    Keep up the unproductive work Coach Edwards. ALL of KC is sick of you and we know that you will make excuses and lead us back to 2 and 14 very soon now.

    AND NOW, Clark Hunt has RE-affirmed Herm’s The Man On The Hot Seat!


  • December 19, 2008  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Keep up the great work Coach Edwards. ALL of KC is behind you and we know that you will lead us back to glory very soon now.

    AND NOW, Clark Hunt has RE-affirmed Herm’s The Man!


  • December 19, 2008  - JohnNdallas says:

    Keep up the unproductive work Coach Edwards. ALL of KC is sick of you and we know that you will make excuses and lead us back to 6 and 28 very soon now.

    AND NOW, Clark Hunt,Len Dawson,and Bob Gretz have RE-affirmed Herm’s The Man On The Hot Seat!


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