Comments on: How Long Can He Survive? … Friday Cup O’Chiefs http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html Dedicated to providing the best coverage of the Kansas City Chiefs. News, commentary, reports, and exclusive inside information - daily! Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:03:47 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: colby http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-30754 colby Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:27:50 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11338#comment-30754 Merwin Great point! It drives me CRAZY that we don't play more bump and run. I know the rules have changed since the Carter/Hasty hayday but it is WAY too easy for opponents to pick us apart when we give them such a huge cushion. It wouldn't be so frustrating if we had garbage corners but Carr and Flowers are two of the best players on the whole team! We should trust them to stay with receivers. This would help our pass rush by (hopefully) making the opposing QBs have to hold the ball a second or a second and a half longer! Merwin

Great point! It drives me CRAZY that we don’t play more bump and run. I know the rules have changed since the Carter/Hasty hayday but it is WAY too easy for opponents to pick us apart when we give them such a huge cushion. It wouldn’t be so frustrating if we had garbage corners but Carr and Flowers are two of the best players on the whole team! We should trust them to stay with receivers. This would help our pass rush by (hopefully) making the opposing QBs have to hold the ball a second or a second and a half longer!

]]> By: Merwin in NY http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-30753 Merwin in NY Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:45:24 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11338#comment-30753 Colby, the biggest problem is that the opponents are generally right on the line of scrimmage across from our receivers. While we generally give their receivers a ten yard cushion. So it would be great if we could get the short slants, but they are hard to do when we are getting a lot of press coverage. Still it seems like if we throw quick slants then we should draw pass interference penalties even if the receivers can't catch the ball. Colby, the biggest problem is that the opponents are generally right on the line of scrimmage across from our receivers. While we generally give their receivers a ten yard cushion. So it would be great if we could get the short slants, but they are hard to do when we are getting a lot of press coverage. Still it seems like if we throw quick slants then we should draw pass interference penalties even if the receivers can’t catch the ball.

]]> By: james gandolfini http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-30752 james gandolfini Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:00:01 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11338#comment-30752 better than rivers, rivers is a guy that lets things get to his head...stats taunting his opponent. better than rivers, rivers is a guy that lets things get to his head…stats taunting his opponent.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-30751 gorillafan Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:43:58 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11338#comment-30751 As usual, i agree 100% with colby As usual, i agree 100% with colby

]]> By: colby http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-30750 colby Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:14:25 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11338#comment-30750 In my humble opinion, Cassel has erased any doubts that I had about his ability to be a franchise QB. Part of the reason we don't run a lot of three step drops may be because our slow WR corps isn't fast enough to get off the line and get open that quickly. I do think that any time a CB is giving Bowe a ten yard cushion they should audible to a one step and wing it out to him and let him do his thing after the catch. He's a load to bring down in the open field. The fact that Cassel is healthy, putting up good numbers (no INTs since the Raiders game) and staying optimistic is simply incredible. I can't wait to see what he can do with a solid line and better WRs. I'm convinced he will be every bit as good as Rivers. In my humble opinion, Cassel has erased any doubts that I had about his ability to be a franchise QB. Part of the reason we don’t run a lot of three step drops may be because our slow WR corps isn’t fast enough to get off the line and get open that quickly. I do think that any time a CB is giving Bowe a ten yard cushion they should audible to a one step and wing it out to him and let him do his thing after the catch. He’s a load to bring down in the open field.

The fact that Cassel is healthy, putting up good numbers (no INTs since the Raiders game) and staying optimistic is simply incredible. I can’t wait to see what he can do with a solid line and better WRs. I’m convinced he will be every bit as good as Rivers.

]]> By: james gandolfini http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-30749 james gandolfini Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:20:59 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11338#comment-30749 take into consideration how well hes done despite the beating a lack of wideouts.... not to mention, hes not even...75 percent with his knee. take into consideration how well hes done despite the beating a lack of wideouts….

not to mention, hes not even…75 percent with his knee.

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-30747 Jim Lloyd+ Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:51:58 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11338#comment-30747 I watch these guy'a at the Combine ,they run crossing pattern's , out route's and catch these ball's on the money . Are team's being fouled , due to fact that the NFL player hit's harder and some WR's build the fear that if they are hurt they won't get all thier Money . Maybe dropped passes should be treated like missing the game PLUS a FINE !!!!!!!!!!! I watch these guy’a at the Combine ,they run crossing pattern’s , out route’s and catch these ball’s on the money . Are team’s being fouled , due to fact that the NFL player hit’s harder and some WR’s build the fear that if they are hurt they won’t get all thier Money .
Maybe dropped passes should be treated like missing the game PLUS a FINE !!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Zach S http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-30746 Zach S Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:48:02 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11338#comment-30746 Nice piece, Bob! I've been really concerned about whether or not Cassell can survive the season, too. I do hope that keeping him alive is one of the top priorities of the coaching staff. I always like it when he takes of running because he's good at it - but he could do that a lot more and not scare as many people if he would slide more often. Nice piece, Bob!

I’ve been really concerned about whether or not Cassell can survive the season, too. I do hope that keeping him alive is one of the top priorities of the coaching staff.

I always like it when he takes of running because he’s good at it – but he could do that a lot more and not scare as many people if he would slide more often.

]]> By: Rodeo John http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-30745 Rodeo John Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:47:09 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11338#comment-30745 I agree wholeheartedly Mad Chief. That is what I was trying to point out. Tony G saw that he had some deficiencies and wasn't going to just accept them as they were. He knew with hard work he could be better. To this day he still does it. They were showing clips of him warming up with Matt Ryan. TG had Ryan intentionally throwing misplaced balls so TG could work on moving his body to catch them. Just in case it happened during game time. That is dedication. I agree wholeheartedly Mad Chief. That is what I was trying to point out. Tony G saw that he had some deficiencies and wasn’t going to just accept them as they were. He knew with hard work he could be better.

To this day he still does it. They were showing clips of him warming up with Matt Ryan. TG had Ryan intentionally throwing misplaced balls so TG could work on moving his body to catch them. Just in case it happened during game time. That is dedication.

]]> By: Mad Chief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-30744 Mad Chief Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:28:27 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11338#comment-30744 I echo gorillafan's sentiments...great job, Bob. One of your best articles in recent memory. As for the Tony G comments? Don't forget, Tony was always one of the first players at practice...and one of the last ones to leave. Even as the years went by, and as great as he became...he was always out there catching extra balls. He put in the work to make himself the player he became. It wasn't magic...it was just plain old hard work. I made reference yesterday to players WANTING to be the best they could be, and doing whatever it takes to become that player. Gonzalez is the perfect example of that. I echo gorillafan’s sentiments…great job, Bob. One of your best articles in recent memory.

As for the Tony G comments? Don’t forget, Tony was always one of the first players at practice…and one of the last ones to leave. Even as the years went by, and as great as he became…he was always out there catching extra balls. He put in the work to make himself the player he became. It wasn’t magic…it was just plain old hard work. I made reference yesterday to players WANTING to be the best they could be, and doing whatever it takes to become that player. Gonzalez is the perfect example of that.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-30743 gorillafan Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:04:23 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11338#comment-30743 AWESOME article bob. nice to see your in depth perspective AWESOME article bob. nice to see your in depth perspective

]]> By: Rodeo John http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-30740 Rodeo John Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:49:02 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11338#comment-30740 For those that saw my post yesterday asking about which of six set of stats from QB's this year you would prefer...here is the answer of who those QB's were. Player Comp Pct TD Int Rate A David Garrard 61.3 5 3 83.9 B Matt Cassel 57.1 7 2 82.2 C Shaun Hill 56.3 5 2 80.7 D Carson Palmer 59.1 8 7 78.3 E Trent Edwards 59.5 5 6 73.0 F Kerry Collins 54.8 5 8 62.0 And by yards thrown, Cassel is the lowest ranked man out of these six. But you know what...I would rather have him than any of the others. For those that saw my post yesterday asking about which of six set of stats from QB’s this year you would prefer…here is the answer of who those QB’s were.

Player Comp Pct TD Int Rate
A David Garrard 61.3 5 3 83.9
B Matt Cassel 57.1 7 2 82.2
C Shaun Hill 56.3 5 2 80.7
D Carson Palmer 59.1 8 7 78.3
E Trent Edwards 59.5 5 6 73.0
F Kerry Collins 54.8 5 8 62.0

And by yards thrown, Cassel is the lowest ranked man out of these six. But you know what…I would rather have him than any of the others.

]]> By: Rodeo John http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-30739 Rodeo John Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:47:12 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11338#comment-30739 I agree MattMac44...I was reading ArrowheadPride this morning and they had an interesting write up on there talking about sacks. It was specifically supporting Alberts, having only been credited for allowing 2.5 sacks so far through 6 games. Sean Ryan on the other hand is credited for allowing 5 sacks. He definitely doesn't seem to be the answer in keeping Matt Cassel off the ground. Oh, and concerning TG and his lack of drops. We as fans got spoiled and are short of memory. He, though is not, and that is what has made him to be as great as he is now. They were doing an interview with him last Sunday and he admitted that when he first came into the league, he was dropping a lot of balls his first couple of seasons and was having a hard go at it. But he got his mind right, started working extra hard and turned it around. Bowe can do the same thing. I think he will. I agree MattMac44…I was reading ArrowheadPride this morning and they had an interesting write up on there talking about sacks. It was specifically supporting Alberts, having only been credited for allowing 2.5 sacks so far through 6 games.

Sean Ryan on the other hand is credited for allowing 5 sacks. He definitely doesn’t seem to be the answer in keeping Matt Cassel off the ground.

Oh, and concerning TG and his lack of drops. We as fans got spoiled and are short of memory. He, though is not, and that is what has made him to be as great as he is now. They were doing an interview with him last Sunday and he admitted that when he first came into the league, he was dropping a lot of balls his first couple of seasons and was having a hard go at it. But he got his mind right, started working extra hard and turned it around.

Bowe can do the same thing. I think he will.

]]> By: MattMac44 http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-30737 MattMac44 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:08:52 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11338#comment-30737 "I’m excited to be around players like that. We just need to get more guys to think and act like that. I stopped the tape multiple times to point out Matt taking big time shots from 300-plus pound defenders in an effort to let the other guys know that they need to do their part." Maybe he was stopping it for the benefit of the OL and simply inquiring WTF??? Blocking must get better and unfortunately, TE Sean Ryan isn't part of the solution as far as a blocker goes... “I’m excited to be around players like that. We just need to get more guys to think and act like that. I stopped the tape multiple times to point out Matt taking big time shots from 300-plus pound defenders in an effort to let the other guys know that they need to do their part.”

Maybe he was stopping it for the benefit of the OL and simply inquiring WTF??? Blocking must get better and unfortunately, TE Sean Ryan isn’t part of the solution as far as a blocker goes…

]]> By: ThunderChief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-30736 ThunderChief Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:46:41 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11338#comment-30736 Having more success on the early downs and staying away from all those third and longs will do wonders for the sack totals going down. Having more success on the early downs and staying away from all those third and longs will do wonders for the sack totals going down.

]]> By: Merwin in NY http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-30734 Merwin in NY Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:59:32 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11338#comment-30734 I remember a time when Joe Montana was here and he verbally ripped more then one offensive player when they dropped a ball. With Joe it didn't matter what the play was or where it went on the field, you had a play to run and you better run it as it was drawn up. Also you needed to be ready to catch the ball even if you were not the primary receiver. That is the attitude every one on this team should have. Like every play is the one to win the superbowl. I also think when Tony G. and Otis Taylor started out in this league they also dropped a lot of passes in their first year, but Bowe needs to step up his game in that area now. I am hoping that the offensive line starts to come together as a group since we are not playing the top defenses now. We sure need to get better if we want any chance to beat those Donkey's. I remember a time when Joe Montana was here and he verbally ripped more then one offensive player when they dropped a ball. With Joe it didn’t matter what the play was or where it went on the field, you had a play to run and you better run it as it was drawn up. Also you needed to be ready to catch the ball even if you were not the primary receiver. That is the attitude every one on this team should have. Like every play is the one to win the superbowl. I also think when Tony G. and Otis Taylor started out in this league they also dropped a lot of passes in their first year, but Bowe needs to step up his game in that area now. I am hoping that the offensive line starts to come together as a group since we are not playing the top defenses now. We sure need to get better if we want any chance to beat those Donkey’s.

]]> By: Harold C. http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-30733 Harold C. Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:37:53 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11338#comment-30733 I like Cassel's optimism.....and I like his toughness....but I hope they can find a way to reduce the sacks. It's not just because of his health either. Cassel has been decent in a bad situation. If we could just get some protection and a decent running game then he can be brilliant. If they sacrifice him in a year that holds little hope of winning anything more than 2nd or 3rd place in the division then that would be such a waste. I like Cassel’s optimism…..and I like his toughness….but I hope they can find a way to reduce the sacks. It’s not just because of his health either. Cassel has been decent in a bad situation. If we could just get some protection and a decent running game then he can be brilliant. If they sacrifice him in a year that holds little hope of winning anything more than 2nd or 3rd place in the division then that would be such a waste.

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/how-long-can-he-survive-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-30732 Jim Lloyd+ Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:04:52 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11338#comment-30732 How come Tony G. can catch every ball near him and Bowe drops a couple / game , some perfect? Is this an age thing or is it possiblty mental distractions that Tony G. just simply does not have , maybe because he leave's them off in travel time to work, & back from ? No,--- it would not be that simple . ---OR >> How come Tony G. can catch every ball near him and Bowe drops a couple / game , some perfect?
Is this an age thing or is it possiblty mental distractions that Tony G. just simply does not have , maybe because he leave’s them off in travel time to work, & back from ?
No,— it would not be that simple . —OR >>

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