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		<title>By: Rin Tin Tin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rin Tin Tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 04:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Six of one half a dozen of the other...

A 2-4 Superbowl tote Broncos be less impressive than a 1-1 Chiefs: 50% KC &gt; 33% DEN.  

Too, that the Texans also won a Championship in &#039;62 before Superbowls cannot be overlooked (the AFL Champion Texans had/have just as much right to call themself World Champs thence as the NFL team did arbitrarily without any qualms or sans any game to determine said/they vs the Texans. 

Too, it took the Broncos 5 Superbowl games/tries to win the 1st; the Chiefs won in their 2nd try.

Was Marty Schottenheimer a great coach because he got his team &#039;there&#039; (post season not Superbowls) so many times - only to lose?

It&#039;s not unlike some saying a  Barry Bonds is a better homerun hitter than Ruth because he &#039;got there&#039; a greater # times (hit more homeruns.) 

Is Bonds better than Ruth? 

No, he is not.

Semantics &amp; subjectivity being the realm  of the pious, logic tells us that &#039;placing&#039;  more often as does having &#039;more&#039; opportunities does not the final analysis dictate &#039;more&#039; success; just also ran status sans the ultimate final victory.

Many runners run and many horses place but only one can conclude Champion.

Jim Brown&#039;s 5.2 career yards per carry average makes him a better runner than an Emmitt Smith despite Smith&#039;s  having gained more yards than Brown (6000+ &#039;more&#039; yards.)  That Smith needed  2000+ &#039;more&#039; carries (about a 2.95 average) is &#039;more&#039; telling, my opine. 

Ditto for DEN having &#039;more&#039; opportunities KC.


&#039;More&#039; does not necessarily equate with &#039;greater&#039; in and of itself. One can say Bonds (as with the Broncos)was more &#039;prolific&#039;, hit/won more than a Ruth/Chiefs.

But that it took DEN 5 games to win their first and a 6th game to win but their second doesn&#039;t impress me per se. Similarly, that Bonds needed 837 &#039;more&#039; atbats (extra tries) than a Ruth got to even &#039;tie&#039; the Babe at 714 homeruns does not impress me. When Bonds had the same 3 of atbats (opportunities)  as Ruth, Ruth had 714 homeruns and Bonds had 95 less, or only 619. 

Career, 1448 more atbats for a Bonds than a Ruth equates to only 48 more homeruns the former.

More? Bonds/Broncos.

Better? Ruth/Chiefs. 


Tomorrow: we shall discuss the Collatz problem &amp; Lehmer&#039;s Mahler Measure Problem.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Six of one half a dozen of the other&#8230;</p>
<p>A 2-4 Superbowl tote Broncos be less impressive than a 1-1 Chiefs: 50% KC &gt; 33% DEN.  </p>
<p>Too, that the Texans also won a Championship in &#8217;62 before Superbowls cannot be overlooked (the AFL Champion Texans had/have just as much right to call themself World Champs thence as the NFL team did arbitrarily without any qualms or sans any game to determine said/they vs the Texans. </p>
<p>Too, it took the Broncos 5 Superbowl games/tries to win the 1st; the Chiefs won in their 2nd try.</p>
<p>Was Marty Schottenheimer a great coach because he got his team &#8216;there&#8217; (post season not Superbowls) so many times &#8211; only to lose?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not unlike some saying a  Barry Bonds is a better homerun hitter than Ruth because he &#8216;got there&#8217; a greater # times (hit more homeruns.) </p>
<p>Is Bonds better than Ruth? </p>
<p>No, he is not.</p>
<p>Semantics &amp; subjectivity being the realm  of the pious, logic tells us that &#8216;placing&#8217;  more often as does having &#8216;more&#8217; opportunities does not the final analysis dictate &#8216;more&#8217; success; just also ran status sans the ultimate final victory.</p>
<p>Many runners run and many horses place but only one can conclude Champion.</p>
<p>Jim Brown&#8217;s 5.2 career yards per carry average makes him a better runner than an Emmitt Smith despite Smith&#8217;s  having gained more yards than Brown (6000+ &#8216;more&#8217; yards.)  That Smith needed  2000+ &#8216;more&#8217; carries (about a 2.95 average) is &#8216;more&#8217; telling, my opine. </p>
<p>Ditto for DEN having &#8216;more&#8217; opportunities KC.</p>
<p>&#8216;More&#8217; does not necessarily equate with &#8216;greater&#8217; in and of itself. One can say Bonds (as with the Broncos)was more &#8216;prolific&#8217;, hit/won more than a Ruth/Chiefs.</p>
<p>But that it took DEN 5 games to win their first and a 6th game to win but their second doesn&#8217;t impress me per se. Similarly, that Bonds needed 837 &#8216;more&#8217; atbats (extra tries) than a Ruth got to even &#8216;tie&#8217; the Babe at 714 homeruns does not impress me. When Bonds had the same 3 of atbats (opportunities)  as Ruth, Ruth had 714 homeruns and Bonds had 95 less, or only 619. </p>
<p>Career, 1448 more atbats for a Bonds than a Ruth equates to only 48 more homeruns the former.</p>
<p>More? Bonds/Broncos.</p>
<p>Better? Ruth/Chiefs. </p>
<p>Tomorrow: we shall discuss the Collatz problem &amp; Lehmer&#8217;s Mahler Measure Problem.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.bobgretz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' />  daddy-o</p>
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		<title>By: MadJew</title>
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		<dc:creator>MadJew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 00:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes but those damn donkeys have more SB victories and appearances than the Chiefs and that ranks higher than HoFers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes but those damn donkeys have more SB victories and appearances than the Chiefs and that ranks higher than HoFers</p>
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		<title>By: Rin Tin Tin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rin Tin Tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re buggin&#039;- I, I say you&#039;re buggin&#039; me boy!


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re buggin&#8217;- I, I say you&#8217;re buggin&#8217; me boy!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.bobgretz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even a Nut finds a blind Squirrel sometimes. Good one Rin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even a Nut finds a blind Squirrel sometimes. Good one Rin.</p>
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		<title>By: Rin Tin Tin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rin Tin Tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real Rin ® :cool: daddy- o sez - 

&quot;There was a huddle with&quot; - Packers, Steelers, Chiefs, Bills, Raiders &amp; - WHAT - no &#039;BRONCO&#039; huddle?

Oh, they only have 1 player who made their mark nee was truly theirs in the Hall of Fame.


Never mind...


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real Rin ® <img src='http://www.bobgretz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' />  daddy- o sez &#8211; </p>
<p>&#8220;There was a huddle with&#8221; &#8211; Packers, Steelers, Chiefs, Bills, Raiders &amp; &#8211; WHAT &#8211; no &#8216;BRONCO&#8217; huddle?</p>
<p>Oh, they only have 1 player who made their mark nee was truly theirs in the Hall of Fame.</p>
<p>Never mind&#8230;</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.bobgretz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh to be a fly on the wall for that luncheon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh to be a fly on the wall for that luncheon!</p>
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