heh heh heh

heh heh heh

Either would definately be an instant impact player, so it boils down to availability and cost. Realisticaly, neither have much of a chance to play for the Red and Gold, but they’d both look good catching tosses in the end zone for us.

2,3, 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGJMYxEJDn8

heh heh heh

I also agree with whomever commented about the running backs coach and LJ. A fire must be lit under his ass. Larry needs to be able to catch a pass in the flat. He has had a few receptions that were nice, but opposing offenses seem to key on him as only a runner. He’s not very good with pass protection or recieving ability. Jamaal Charles helps in that area, but it would be nice to have another option on obvious passing downs. That needs to change for him to salvage the season and his career.

As far as Raheem Morris…reminds me of another coach that was never a coordinator. Great with the players, because he could relate with them. Anyone know who I’m talking about???

I’ll give you a hint…he coach’s to lose the game.

For that matter, I’d rather have a Mike Vick on my team that should surely have seen the error of his ways by now than Plax. Nothing against Burress as a player, but he doesn’t seem to have “gotten it” yet. The last thing we need on our team as we trasition to yet another HC and system is someone that can’t seem to stay out of trouble, no matter what his intentions are/were.

If we’re talking about picking up that missing WR tallent, I’m still holding out hope against hope we could pull off some kind of deal for Q Boldin. It wouldn’t take him long to catch on to the system, and he’d need some reps with Cassell, like they all still do.

“- makes an *** out of you & he”

While you make one out of yourself.

Sorry guys…that one was just too easy to pass up.

Drew Rosenhaus claims there are “5 team interested in Plaxico Burress”. Do you think there’s any possibility AT ALL that KC is one of them? And would you WANT him on our team?

My first reaction would be “no”. But, most of his teammates from the Giants have been vocally supportive of him…and say they would like him back. And as bad as we need a killer receiver…???

- makes an *** out of you & he…heh heh heh

I don’t know…I think we got the best of the best in Pioli. And I think he had Haley in mind the whole way. Which may or may not be the case, of course. I’m sure he’ll never tell us!

Then, Haley brought in “his” guys…half of them from Arizona (it seems) and a few holdovers. I’m not sure who he might have brought in differently if he had his “pick of the litter”, so to speak. For better or worse…I’m not so sure his choices would have been much different. Again though, we’ll likely never know.

It will be interesting, assuming that Haley is successful…how he will “tweak” his staff over the next few years. With basically a whole new staff put together…there’s likely to be a piece or two of the puzzle that doesn’t quite fit. Who will stay…and who will go? And will Gailey be offered a Head Coaching position again after this year? Especially if he engineers a successful offense.

- give that man a Pabst Blue Ribbon for honesty if not resolve nor confidence!

And now, FEAR television presents Humphrey Bogart starring in “The Desperate Hours!” our late night movie here on ‘Channel any, 22′.

Cue a paraphrased James Taylor – “You Need Him Friend”

When you’re new and clueless
And you need a lineman yeah
And he won’t, no he won’t kiss your behind.
Close your eyes and think of he
Pray soon he will be there
To toughen up your slow and flimsy line

You just call out Brian’s name,
And you know wherever he is
You’ll go runnin’, oh yeah baby
Team needs him again.
Winter, spring, summer, or fall,
All you have to do is crawl
And he’ll be there, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You need him, friend.

When destruction lays afore you
Losses mount you’re in the dumps
And those any 22s, seem to be all but shot
Keep your team together, call Brian’s name out loud
And soon he’ll be knocking upon your door.
You just call out his name and you know where ever he is
You’ll go running, plead “need you” again.
Winter, spring, summer or fall
All you got to do is crawl
And you’ll be there, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hey, ain’t it tough to swallow you need a friend?
When “comes around’s” be so cold.
It’ll serve you – right – yeah & hurt you.
It may take your team away from you
So, have duffer woods ready…

You just call out his name and you know wherever he is
You’ll go runnin’ to see him again.
Oh – ‘check’ – don’t you know that,
Winter spring summer or fall,
Hey now, all you’ve got to do is crawl.
Brian he’ll be there, yes he will.
You need him, friend.
You need him, friend.
Aint it tough to swallow, you need him friend.
Aint it tough to swallow, you need him friend
You need him, friend!

A believer in moral victories perhaps?

Flamethrower Scott…use the flamethrower!

There ya go! You said what I tried too, I’m horrible with names, and you nailed em.

I just remember lots of discussions on this forum every time one of the big names were off the market, and the Chiefs were still working out details with the Pioli hire.

Here’s a follow up article on the one I posted the other day, about actual money spent by NFL teams over the last 5 years. This one shows how much actual money was spent per win.

Take a guess where you think the Chiefs came in at before scrolling down. I was a little surprised.

Team Wins Committed Cash Cost Per Win
1.) Patriots 63 512.31M 8.14 M
2.) Colts 63 532.77 M 8.44 M
3.) Chargers 54 485.46 M 8.99 M
4.) Steelers 56 516.69 M 9.22 M
5.) Broncos 47 485.40 M 10.37 M
6.) Giants 47 497.63 M 10.58 M
7.) Jaguars 45 480.06 M 10.66 M
8. ) Eagles 46 495.75 M 10.77 M
9.) Bears 45 495.57 M 11.01 M
10.) Packers 41 457.16 M 11.15 M
11.) Panthers 45 516.09 M 11.46 M
12.) Ravens 44 507.05 M 11.52 M
13.) Titans 40 465.28 M 11.63 M
14.) Bucs 38 449.00 M 11.81 M
15.) Seahawks 45 552.42 M 12.27 M
16.) Falcons 41 493.07 M 12.07 M
17.) Cowboys 46 566.89 M 12.32 M
18.) Vikings 41 526.87 M 12.85 M
19.) Bengals 38 491.05 M 12.92 M
20.) Jets 37 502.53 M 13.58 M
21.) Bills 35 483.71 M 13.82 M
22.) Chiefs 32 451.58 M 14.11 M
23.) Saints 36 518.49 M 14.40 M
24.) Redskins 38 547.37 M 14.40 M
25.) Cardinals 34 505.30 M 14.86 M
26.) Dolphins 31 500.56 M 16.14 M
27.) Texans 31 522.23 M 16.84 M
28.) Browns 28 506.43 M 18.08 M
29.) Rams 27 502.08 M 18.59 M
30.) 49ers 25 486. 40 M 19.45 M
31.) Lions 21 505.04 M 24.04 M
32.) Raiders 20 513.21 M 25.66 M

Here is the link
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/06/29/more-moneyball-the-economics-of-wins-and-losses/

The fact is that by the time the decision had been made to release Herm, the pool of available HC candidates was considerably reduced. If Haley was Pioli’s man all along that’s great, but guys like Spagnuolo, McDaniels (luckily), Ryan, and Schwartz never got interviewed.

Similarly, there’s no denying that some top-flight candidates for assistant coaching positions had been snatched up by the time Haley could start assembling a staff.

Maybe the Rams, Jets, Lions, et. al. overlooked some really tasty fried chicken in order to fill their plates with mediocre prime rib, but the fact is they got first choice, and the Chiefs chose from what was left.

/ducks and covers

- yes, he got said via his tutelage under Coach Herm Edwards these last few seasons, ‘check’…

“that”

- ‘is why you kept him around’, understood.

“too”

- wait- there’s more?

“has been around, in Canada and in colleges”

- an international man of intrigue or a matter not being able to keep a job – or just that he understands that “any 22″ thingy ‘concept’ you are going to revolutionize this football world with, ‘check’?

The thing is, no one outside yourself really believes it – let alone understands it…

“I desperately want Haley to succeed, but the Chiefs did have to settle with left overs, Thanks Jr for waiting until the last min to start his GM search”

Huh? Leftovers?

How do you figure? Pioli was the most talked about, sought after GM this past off season. And we got him. Then, Pioli couldn’t talk to Haley until after the Super Bowl was over…but wrapped him up pretty quick afterwards.

I agree that circumstances gave us a late start…but “leftovers”? I can’t see that at all. Explain.

I desperately want Haley to succeed, but the Chiefs did have to settle with left overs, Thanks Jr for waiting until the last min to start his GM search

The wide receivers coach seems real shaky to me, considering the talent or lack their of. I would liked to have had a guy with a little experience.

Lets hope it works out.

Kinda’ makes Herm’s infamous “You play to WIN the game” rant all the more funny…when you think about it.

Because CLEARY, he didn’t.

It will be interesting to watch Haley and Chan this year. What I’m looking forward to is seeing how Haley and Chan separates themselves from Herm’s approach this year with the play calling. Again Herm played to not lose badly and in that he just lost 7 games by 7 points or less. I laugh when he says that. He makes it sound like an achievement or as if there was simply nothing he could do.

Well, Haley doesn’t bring that mentality. Coaching on a pro level requires you to approach the game like a pro.

Herm definitely belongs in College Football.

Go Chiefs!

Jimbo, I’ve kinda’ been thinking (and hoping) the same thing.

It’s pretty possible that Pioli and Haley think that, also. And maybe that’s why there were not more FA’s brought in…because I think those two guys are pretty good at evaluating talent.

- ‘check’, you must travel in small circles – you just have to get out of the office nee beyond the vestibule and back 9 more often – remember, even ‘Supercuts’ doesn’t require an appointment.

Like Johnny Cash “I’ve been everywhere man” the guy’s been around as you say & if he understands the concept of “any 22″ as you do Rin is certain success will follow you both – and if not well… then your replacements shall.

‘check’, Jim McNally & Howard Mudd (former Chiefs Coach) are at the top Rin’s ‘best’ o-line coaches NFL…but as you regretted you did get that ‘late start’.

Chin up!

Good one, SG.

And since Herm coached a college team last year…wouldn’t that make several of “his” players Rookies THIS year?

“The transition from college to the NFL has been the toughest part. College was laid back, but here everything is up tempo…” (Q-Lawrence quote from another site)

I didn’t know QL was part of Herm’s practices last year! LOL – does this count as 4 now who have made feedback about certain subjects?

Everyone else – nice work not replying to the above.

Steve Spanguolo (a talented guy who I was hoping would be the next Chiefs HC) is doing pretty much the same thing with the Rams, and, of course, the media in St. Louis doesn’t like it. I heard one sports radio guy say “We didn’t need closed practices the year we won the Super Bowl”; of course they also didn’t have new coaching staff trying to turn around a 2-14 team that season.

It’s perfectly reasonable to limit media access to coaches and players until everyone has gotten to know each other and understands the “company line”, as it were. Internal cohesion is more important than media relations at this point.

I also think the O-line has the potential to be a good run-blocking unit. Goff is a good addition, and McIntosh played better towards the end of last season (still a problem in pass protection, though).

I was watching NFL Replay this past weekend and was reminded of the Jamaal Charles pass play against the Fins last season where McIntosh pancaked two defenders downfield. He can be a formidable blocker.

If teams are signing their players, we can start hoping/expecting to see ours signed too. Thanks BobGretz for doing a great job in this slow period before Camp.

It will be interesting to see how good Raheem Morris is. He’s extremely likable in interviews and seems to be a very smart individual, but he is a 32 year old who has no experience whatsoever being a top coach at this level. We’ll see…..

http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=5897
Raheem Morris, when they take a kid 32 years old, and he’s never been a coordinator. …And that’s who’s going to be a head coach at 32? He better be really good.

Muir:
“I would have to say to you I think the whole NFL is upside down in their process of selecting coaches. I’m not just saying that because I’m old or jealous. I just think in my opinion you have to have a little bit more background to be a head coach. The NFL is a copycat league. ..Some of the owners have looked at Mike Tomlin, at Harbaugh, and they say maybe these guys relate better with the players. I think that’s the case with Raheem. The defensive players rallied around him. …He’s very … charismatic, effervescent. He’s got a good football base, too. … He was obviously a popular choice to be the defensive coordinator. Jon made that decision. …One of the reasons Jon liked Raheem, there was going to be a lot of reciprocal philosophy. Raheem was receptive to some input. … (Muir went on to say that Raheem interviewing with Denver immediately after being named coordinator sparked the Glazers interest in him as head coach.)

Do assistant coaches have to make an appointment or like players, do folks just talk nee catch as catch can in the vestibule?

What’s that? Yes, I have my credentials right here and- pardon me? No I’m not, I just play one…like you.
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“Not one person has all the answers”

- well now, that’s progress. Maybe in hindsight offensive lineman ‘can’ make a BIG impression…
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“None of those assistant coaches has been available to the media”

- no, that’s true…

“that’s pretty much standard operating procedure in the football worlds where Haley and GM Scott Pioli learned their trade.”

- the last planet on the left…

“Those restrictions will have to lessen a bit once the season starts because”

- (drumroll)

“under NFL mandate coordinators must be made available to speak to the media.”

- uh oh! – (Cue Karl Malden) “what will you do? What WILL you do? Carry the Arrowhead ‘Express Permission’ Card, don’t let your co-ordinator’s speak without it!”

I’m excited to see what this new group can do with our team…especailly after they get a little time to “gel” with each other, and the players.

I agree ILChiefsFan, Haley and Gailey will be interesting to watch. Haley is just going to have to remember that he’s now the Head Coach…and not an Offensive Coordinator. He’ll need to let Chan do his thing.

I’m also interested to see how Carthon does with the running backs. Especially LJ. Can he help make him productive again? How will he do with the younger guys? I say this because, if we can’t run the ball this year…we’ll be in big trouble. I understand (and agree for the most part) with the O-line arguement. But, the RB’s will have to find a way to produce…no excuses.

Thank’s again Mr. Gretz~

One of the many things Haley will have to show as a head coach is that he knows when to lead and when to get out of the way. It sounds like he trusts his coaches, which would seem to be a good start.

The relationship between Haley and Chan Gailey will be interesting to watch; it seems like the one with the most potential difficulties.