Comments on: Haley’s Offensive Philosophy … Wednesday Cup O’Chiefs http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html Dedicated to providing the best coverage of the Kansas City Chiefs. News, commentary, reports, and exclusive inside information - daily! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:27:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The Truth Is Out http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-20082 The Truth Is Out Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:35:27 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-20082 And I'm Perez Hilton. And I’m Perez Hilton.

]]> By: The Truth Is Out http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-20080 The Truth Is Out Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:32:11 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-20080 Rin Tin Tin is Jason Whitlock. Rin Tin Tin is Jason Whitlock.

]]> By: SG http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-20022 SG Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:48:50 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-20022 Ditto what Justin D said - Bob's kickin' some butt with his articles. "I expect LJ to have a 1300 to 1500 yard season this year." I assume you project LJ to have 450 touches this year also...j/k Ditto what Justin D said – Bob’s kickin’ some butt with his articles.

“I expect LJ to have a 1300 to 1500 yard season this year.”

I assume you project LJ to have 450 touches this year also…j/k

]]> By: Jorge http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19960 Jorge Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:38:47 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19960 He hasn't met with the "Commish" however I believe, given that L.J. pled guilty, will NOT serve a suspension for this reason alone: Herm Edwards and Peterson suspended L.J. for four games last season. I believe the "Commish" will take that under account, along with L.J.'s change in attitude. It's one thing to just say it and it's another thing to show it through your actions. L.J. has done everything right that he needed to do and that will not go unnoticed by the "Commish." He hasn’t met with the “Commish” however I believe, given that L.J. pled guilty, will NOT serve a suspension for this reason alone: Herm Edwards and Peterson suspended L.J. for four games last season. I believe the “Commish” will take that under account, along with L.J.’s change in attitude. It’s one thing to just say it and it’s another thing to show it through your actions. L.J. has done everything right that he needed to do and that will not go unnoticed by the “Commish.”

]]> By: Scott L http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19955 Scott L Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:31:19 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19955 Bob, This made me think of something - is there any kind of pattern of when suspensions are handed down in the offseason? I'd really like to know when/if we can expect to hear about a suspension for LJ just to know what our lineup will look like during the first 2-4 games. I can't remember, has he already had a meeting with the commish? Bob,

This made me think of something – is there any kind of pattern of when suspensions are handed down in the offseason? I’d really like to know when/if we can expect to hear about a suspension for LJ just to know what our lineup will look like during the first 2-4 games.

I can’t remember, has he already had a meeting with the commish?

]]> By: Mark http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19952 Mark Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:09:01 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19952 There is so much Parcells in Haley. Parcells was conservative with the Jints, because that's what they were. At NE, he was totally pass oriented. Whatever works is what you do. You don't come to a team and WANT to destroy the Offense, like the idiot before him did, because his philosophy was anything over 21 points wasn't real football. What Haley said was sooooo important. Balance is the goal, but your personnel dictates what you do, not some pre conceived notion of what you should be doing. There is so much Parcells in Haley. Parcells was conservative with the Jints, because that’s what they were. At NE, he was totally pass oriented. Whatever works is what you do. You don’t come to a team and WANT to destroy the Offense, like the idiot before him did, because his philosophy was anything over 21 points wasn’t real football. What Haley said was sooooo important. Balance is the goal, but your personnel dictates what you do, not some pre conceived notion of what you should be doing.

]]> By: ED http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19950 ED Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:55:03 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19950 Good points by Jorge and B in SC. I think the o-line provided Waters will be there which i think he will will be much better this year. With the addition of Goff and a much slimmer and in better shape Albert the o-line should help LJ put up pro-bowl numbers especially with the creative play-calling i expect the Haley-Gailey team to come up with to open up things in the passing game as well. Good points by Jorge and B in SC. I think the o-line provided Waters will be there which i think he will will be much better this year. With the addition of Goff and a much slimmer and in better shape Albert the o-line should help LJ put up pro-bowl numbers especially with the creative play-calling i expect the Haley-Gailey team to come up with to open up things in the passing game as well.

]]> By: Jorge http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19948 Jorge Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:41:13 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19948 Just so everyone knows...last year he was averaging between 4.3 and 4.6 yards a carry. Hmmm... Just so everyone knows…last year he was averaging between 4.3 and 4.6 yards a carry. Hmmm…

]]> By: B in SC http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19919 B in SC Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:24:03 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19919 LJ's success will come down to the OL, as it usually does. Even last year, when he played early, he was usually hit in the backfield before he could get going. It doesn't matter what shape, focus, or determination he has if the OL isn't improved. Because of that, I think he will have mediocre production at best. LJ’s success will come down to the OL, as it usually does. Even last year, when he played early, he was usually hit in the backfield before he could get going. It doesn’t matter what shape, focus, or determination he has if the OL isn’t improved. Because of that, I think he will have mediocre production at best.

]]> By: tm1946 http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19917 tm1946 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:32:33 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19917 I guess football does not really change in the long run. A head coach must get the most out of what his players can do and not install a system then make the players fit in (square pegs and round holes). Herm failed there and hopefully Haley will do better. I guess football does not really change in the long run. A head coach must get the most out of what his players can do and not install a system then make the players fit in (square pegs and round holes). Herm failed there and hopefully Haley will do better.

]]> By: aPauled http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19903 aPauled Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:00:03 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19903 Haley's philosophy sure beats that of his knucklehead predecessor. Last year, ol' Herm took 5 games after Brodie got hurt to change-up the offense to something that could generate points. Wasn't much fun not competing from the opening kick-off on. Teams must play to their strengths, and I'm not convinced that the Chiefs passing game will carry half the load. Minus Gonzalez and retaining McIntosh, Niswanger, and Darling doesn't build much confidence. LJ/Charles/Smith/Battle/Savage better be ready to carry a strong running game this year. Haley’s philosophy sure beats that of his knucklehead predecessor. Last year, ol’ Herm took 5 games after Brodie got hurt to change-up the offense to something that could generate points. Wasn’t much fun not competing from the opening kick-off on.

Teams must play to their strengths, and I’m not convinced that the Chiefs passing game will carry half the load. Minus Gonzalez and retaining McIntosh, Niswanger, and Darling doesn’t build much confidence. LJ/Charles/Smith/Battle/Savage better be ready to carry a strong running game this year.

]]> By: Tracy http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19902 Tracy Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:52:27 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19902 It will quite interesting to see how LJ responds this season. Thus far the reports are good. As it now stands, he may be the Chiefs' most potent single offense weapon. Todd Haley is using a common sense approach to remaking the team by using what is in the cupboard rather than attempting to a total makeover. It likely will build some confidence among the players as they can see that they have not simply been given a peremptory pink slip but have been given an opportunity to contribute, grow in skill and prove themselves. The challenging games in the first part of the season seem to be an obstacle at this point but if the team comes away with some victories may well prove to be beneficial. It will quite interesting to see how LJ responds this season. Thus far the reports are good.
As it now stands, he may be the Chiefs’ most potent single offense weapon.
Todd Haley is using a common sense approach to remaking the team by using what is in the cupboard rather than attempting to a total makeover. It likely will build some confidence among the players as they can see that they have not simply been given a peremptory pink slip but have been given an opportunity to contribute, grow in skill and prove themselves.
The challenging games in the first part of the season seem to be an obstacle at this point but if the team comes away with some victories may well prove to be beneficial.

]]> By: colby http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19901 colby Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:51:32 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19901 "Now, it went against the philosophy of what you are supposed to do," Haley said. "But occasionally things come up and you've got to be able to adjust on the fly." This is the most inspiring thing I've heard from a Chiefs head coach in quite some time. It seems obvious that the Haley/Gailey combo will be a successful one given time. If we can't throw the ball all over the field this year then Haley won't force the issue. If we can't run very well then Chan won't be calling the old "LJ up the gut for 2 yards" play on every first and 10. I' very excited to watch this team play this year. I'm not convinced that this is a very good team just yet, but I love the new regime and I'm confident that they have us headed in the right direction. I know he's not a very popular player, but I have a feeling that LJ bounces back this year. Provided he stays healthy, I see 1000-1250 yards this year. (Broad range pending on if he gets additional suspensions at the start of the year.) “Now, it went against the philosophy of what you are supposed to do,” Haley said. “But occasionally things come up and you’ve got to be able to adjust on the fly.”

This is the most inspiring thing I’ve heard from a Chiefs head coach in quite some time. It seems obvious that the Haley/Gailey combo will be a successful one given time. If we can’t throw the ball all over the field this year then Haley won’t force the issue. If we can’t run very well then Chan won’t be calling the old “LJ up the gut for 2 yards” play on every first and 10. I’ very excited to watch this team play this year. I’m not convinced that this is a very good team just yet, but I love the new regime and I’m confident that they have us headed in the right direction.

I know he’s not a very popular player, but I have a feeling that LJ bounces back this year. Provided he stays healthy, I see 1000-1250 yards this year. (Broad range pending on if he gets additional suspensions at the start of the year.)

]]> By: ED http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19900 ED Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:49:06 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19900 Not a bad idea seeing that I think LJ has a good 2years left in him. Including this season. I expect LJ to have a 1300 to 1500 yard season this year. Look for Cassell to settle for alot of underneath stuff safe throws seeing that the pass protection is going to be average. We will look like the Pats when Brady first got there. NOt alot of deep stuff down the field but consistently moving the chains. Cant wait for the sesaon to start. Not a bad idea seeing that I think LJ has a good 2years left in him. Including this season. I expect LJ to have a 1300 to 1500 yard season this year. Look for Cassell to settle for alot of underneath stuff safe throws seeing that the pass protection is going to be average. We will look like the Pats when Brady first got there. NOt alot of deep stuff down the field but consistently moving the chains. Cant wait for the sesaon to start.

]]> By: ED http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19899 ED Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:45:16 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19899 Haley offensive philosphy will be what Herm tried to create but when away from once Tyler becamse QB which is running the football. Of course unlike Herm he will not just run the ball all 3 downs and punt. Look for Haley to surround the offense around LJ but also use in some fakes and play action to get the ball downfield to Bowe, Darling, and Bradley. Haley offensive philosphy will be what Herm tried to create but when away from once Tyler becamse QB which is running the football. Of course unlike Herm he will not just run the ball all 3 downs and punt. Look for Haley to surround the offense around LJ but also use in some fakes and play action to get the ball downfield to Bowe, Darling, and Bradley.

]]> By: That basic lesson is something he learned as part of Bill Parcells staff with the New York Jets and… http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19896 That basic lesson is something he learned as part of Bill Parcells staff with the New York Jets and… Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:32:14 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19896 [...] Chiefs News Chiefs Update | Chiefs Football at BobGretz.com [...] [...] Chiefs News Chiefs Update | Chiefs Football at BobGretz.com [...]

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19894 Rin Tin Tin Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:27:08 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19894 'check' - "I got to learn alot from him (Charlie Weiss)"... yup - the blind leading the blind(er). :-) ‘check’ – “I got to learn alot from him (Charlie Weiss)”… yup – the blind leading the blind(er).

:-)

]]> By: That basic lesson is something he learned as part of Bill Parcells staff with the New York Jets and… « wire2 http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19893 That basic lesson is something he learned as part of Bill Parcells staff with the New York Jets and… « wire2 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:22:13 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19893 [...] Chiefs News Chiefs Update | Chiefs Football at BobGretz.com [...] [...] Chiefs News Chiefs Update | Chiefs Football at BobGretz.com [...]

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19892 Jim Lloyd+ Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:12:03 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19892 This is great, I read this, sat up and first thought was, this ain't hard ~ if you know what your doing. Making descions on witch way to sail before you know the wind driection, defind's your true abbilty to be in command of the ship and crew. This replace's the old Caption's way of simply knowing he had to go in one driection and went, even if it was straight into the wind. What was astounding, was with little experince, the crew almost got the job done,on more than a few outings. Wonder if KC is going to announce that they are going to run the ball every play agin this year. This is great, I read this, sat up and first thought was, this ain’t hard ~ if you know what your doing.
Making descions on witch way to sail before you know the wind driection, defind’s your true abbilty to be in command of the ship and crew.
This replace’s the old Caption’s way of simply knowing he had to go in one driection and went, even if it was straight into the wind.
What was astounding, was with little experince, the crew almost got the job done,on more than a few outings.
Wonder if KC is going to announce that they are going to run the ball every play agin this year.

]]> By: jimbo http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19891 jimbo Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:50:27 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19891 I like Haley's approach on the offense. It seems obvious that without full contact practices, he has no idea of what the Chiefs offensive strengths are,if any. Bob, I'm impressed with your reporting. I learn more & more about Haley from you. It's obvious you landed Coach Haley with a one on one conversation. There must be some jealous sports reporters running around KC wondering, How you pulled it off. Congrats! I like Haley’s approach on the offense. It seems obvious that without full contact practices, he has no idea of what the Chiefs offensive strengths are,if any.

Bob, I’m impressed with your reporting. I learn more & more about Haley from you. It’s obvious you landed Coach Haley with a one on one conversation. There must be some jealous sports reporters running around KC wondering, How you pulled it off. Congrats!

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19890 gorillafan Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:47:37 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19890 Yeah this season could be a disaster, but I like our chances at this point this year than in the past few years!! Yeah this season could be a disaster, but I like our chances at this point this year than in the past few years!!

]]> By: Scott http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19889 Scott Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:42:30 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19889 It may, or may not come to pass...but it seems to me that Haley has all the tools to become a great Head Coach in the NFL. Only time will tell for certain. It may, or may not come to pass…but it seems to me that Haley has all the tools to become a great Head Coach in the NFL. Only time will tell for certain.

]]> By: Justin D http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/haley%e2%80%99s-offensive-philosophy-%e2%80%a6-wednesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-19888 Justin D Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:00:24 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9256#comment-19888 Bob, Great article. During this dead time it really great to get this kind of insight to keep 'Chiefs junkies' going. Bob,

Great article. During this dead time it really great to get this kind of insight to keep ‘Chiefs junkies’ going.

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