Haley’s Special Teams View … Friday Cup O’Chiefs
Over their first 49 seasons of play, the kicking game has always been important to the Dallas Texans-Kansas City Chiefs.
The Texans won the 1962 AFL Championship with Tommy Brooker’s field goal to beat the Houston Oilers in double overtime. Jan Stenerud is the only kicker in the Pro Football Hall of Fame and he was drafted and played most of his career with the Chiefs. Noland Smith and Dante Hall are in the game’s record book for their kick/punt returning performances. 
The team has had two head coaches who got their starts in pro football as the NFL’s first special teams coaches: Dick Vermeil and Marv Levy. They had a third head coach in the late Frank Gansz who is considered one of the best kicking game coach in league history.
None of that was visible during the disastrous 2-14 season of 2008. Other than a solid punting year from an injured Dustin Colquitt, the kicking game had nothing but turmoil and ordinary performances. The kicker, the snapper, the returners, the coverage people were all found wanting. They finished among the five worst special teams groups in the league.
The Chiefs look to recapture those glory days in the kicking game under Todd Haley and special teams coach Steve Hoffman (right), with help from defensive assistant Ronnie Bradford.
“The first time we got to hear from Coach Haley, he made it plain that special teams are important,” said punter Dustin Colquitt. “He pointed out our special teams coach Steve Hoffman and said ‘If you want to make this team, everybody go talk to him because you won’t make it if you can’t play special teams.’
“He made sure everybody knew there was an emphasis on it.”
To make that happen, Haley will not be afraid to use starting players in the kicking game.
“I think you have to (use starters) now a days,” said Haley. “Those are your best players and you need those skills in the kicking game as much as you need them in the offense and defense.”
Haley will also make room on his 53-man roster for special teams performers. Not just kickers, punters, snappers and returners, but coverage guys and those who show a penchant for blocking on returns.
“There will be at least two on that final roster,” Haley said. “At least two impact special teams players can make a difference between winning and losing.”
To get all this done, Haley has turned to Hoffman, who will handle the entire special teams for the first time in his 19-year NFL coaching career. Up until now, in stops at Dallas, Atlanta and Miami, Hoffman has worked primarily with the kickers and punters. In fact, he’s considered one of the best in pro football at filling those two positions with players who are productive and consistent.
“Unlike most special teams coaches in the league, he has the ability to teach the specialists,” said Haley, who coached with Hoffman while part of the staff at the Cowboys. “I think that’s a big item. He’s seen it for 19 years and he’s worked with a lot of very good special teams coaches. He never got the shot, so I figured I would be the guy to give him the chance to do it. I think he’s fully capable of handling the role.
“The key is he understands the mindset of the kicker.”
Hoffman will have his hands full. At no time in the previous half-century did the Chiefs experience a season in the kicking game like 2008. From year to year there are always ups and downs in performance and some seasons are better than others. But seldom does an NFL team go through a roller coaster like last year’s team, where there were changes at every key position in the kicking units over 16 games: kicker, punter, deep snapper and returner.
Every facet of the Chiefs kicking game was overwhelmed by injuries, which led to inconsistency. Some teams will lose one of their key special teams performers to injury during a season. Other teams will make changes in the kicking game based on poor production.
Last year, the Chiefs did it all. On October 21, they changed kickers, releasing Nick Novak and re-signing Connor Barth. That was about production. The next day they signed punter Steve Weatherford for two games, so he could kick for the injured Colquitt. On October 28, they sent long snapper J.P. Darche to the injured-reserve list with knee injury and signed Thomas Gafford. On November 4 they activated returner Kevin Robinson from the Physically Unable to Perform List. This came about a month after they waived early season returner B.J. Sams.
All those changes came over two weeks and does not take into account other players who contributed blocks and coverage that changed constantly because of injury and an ever changing roster.
“Things eventually settled down over the last part of the season, but we could never develop any continuity because the faces were always changing,” said Colquitt. “Not counting me and (Jon) McGraw, you look at the rest of the punt team, every other position changed during the season, some multiple times. We changed deep snappers because of an injury. How many times does that happen?”
Across the board the special teams struggled with the juggled lineups. Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News does an annual ranking of the NFL kicking games, using statistics in 22 different categories. It’s become the gold standard for special teams evaluation and last year, the Chiefs finished No. 29 out of 32 teams.
“The way Coach (Dick) Vermeil handled special teams is what they did when they drafted me, it was to go get a good punter and that will take care of the punting,” said Colquitt. “With Herm (Edwards) it was let’s figure out defense and offense and whoever else is left over we’ll put on special teams.
“Now they are saying, we’ve got offense, we’ve got defense and we’ve got special teams. They have brought in guys that can play a special teams role. They may be able to step into other roles and other positions, but they definitely know how to play in the kicking game. That hasn’t been a real priority in the last few years.”
It’s a priority now. With the exception of Colquitt, every job in the kicking game is open right now. The Chiefs need to solidify their kicking and snapping, and they need to find a returner, blockers and coverage people.
“Listen, I’m trying to win games and I want to win them in any manner I can,” said Haley. “We’ve got to have strong special teams, because it will make the difference between winning and losing most weeks. We need to have everything possible going for us in a positive direction.”
Haley says he will likely tend to a more conservative approach to the kicking game. When it comes to blocking a punt or making sure it’s covered for little or no gain on the return, he’ll take the coverage over the block nine out of 10 times.
“We are going to be solid, we are going to do the basics right and I doubt we’ll be real fancy,” said Haley. “I want a kicking game that we can count on.”
This weekend comes a look at the only player without competition: punter Dustin Colquitt.
SIGNINGS & MOVEMENT AROUND THE LEAGUE
GIANTS – agreed to terms with fourth-round draft choice RB Andre Brown.
JETS – claimed CB Rashad Barksdale (Giants) and WR Mario Urrutia (Bengals) off waivers.
LIONS – signed C Dominic Raiola to a four-year contract extension; signed seventh-round draft choice TE Dan Gronkowski.
PACKERS – signed fifth-round draft choice OT Jamon Meredith.
RAVENS – signed third-round draft choice CB Lardarius Webb.
TEXANS – released P Justin Brantly, QB Alex Brink, LB Kevis Coley and OT Doug Dedrick.
SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY …
Born on June 26, 1971 in Cincinnati was CB Carlton Gray. He joined the Chiefs for the 1999 season and spent two years in Kansas City, appearing in 20 games, with one start.
I’m the Michael Jordan of motivating Michael Jordan!
“When it comes to blocking a punt or making sure it’s covered for little or no gain on the return, he’ll take the coverage over the block nine out of 10 times.”
Does anyone have opinions on how this will translate to wins and losses? I wonder if his players might get coached away from opportunities to make plays. Also, does that have an impact on other areas of the team as far as player mindset such as defense?
Anonymous says:
“Does anyone have opinions on how this will translate to wins and losses?”
Field position. Plain and simple. Stopping the return where Colquitt’s kick is fielded. We’ve been dismal at giving up good yardage on returns. Kickoffs, too. That has to stop if we’re going to win. You can’t let the opposing team start from their own 35 or 40 on every drive. You just can’t. And that’s been a huge problem for us the past few years.
“Colquitt…“With Herm (Edwards) it was let’s figure out defense and offense and whoever else is left over we’ll put on special teams.”
That quote pretty much sums it up right there. And we saw how well that worked out. At least Herm “figured out the offense and defense”…right?
Oops. That was my post above. Anonymous is not talking to himself.
SG committed a fumble and was the 1st anonymous post…LOL.
“Field position. Plain and simple.”
I don’t know if it’s Haley’s comments or Bob’s spin on Haley’s comments regarding our players that hint that he doesn’t appear “super-confident” with them. Does this approach prevent the big impact player from making his plays - such as Albert Lewis or others did? Am I (the coach) too afraid to let my players strike out that I don’t let them swing for the fences?
If I tell my starters and specialists to do that in coverage, does that do the same thing to my defensive players - when both teams tend toward playing off emotion and big plays?
Every quote from Haley or one of the Chiefs players from last year makes Herm look that much worse as a head coach. I mean REALLY, did he not have the first clue how to do ANYTHING in this league. I’d hire any of two thirds of you guys who post here to coach the team over Herm. At least two thirds of you guys know something about putting a team together.
Pioli/Haley will lead us back to the Super Bowl.
SG says:
“If I tell my starters and specialists to do that in coverage, does that do the same thing to my defensive players - when both teams tend toward playing off emotion and big plays?”
What I’m getting from what Haley is saying is, we’re going to start with learning how to do things the right way, be solid if not spectacular in every phase of the game and build off of that. When they show that they can cover kick offs and punts, we’ll add more wrinkles into the game plan. When we can stop the run/ establish the run…. etc.
Boys, I’m stoked. IMO, we’ll have a competative team by mid season. God only knows who we’ll knab after all the teams cut back to 53.
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And still the majority of media in KC gives Herm a pass….
Herm had his head so far up his ass, he couldn’t tell if he was smelling his tonsils, or tasting his sphincter!
What a F’n Loser!
agreed, S.T wins games, and we need to win the field position battle at least half the time.
And yes, Gansz Was, Is, and always will be the best special teams coach ever.
Tony Horne’s return for 6 against the vikes in the playoffs in 1999 is proof enough.
I agree with RedandGoldRice. I think the #1 priority has to be to stop the return in its tracks. Once you can do that effectively and consistantly…then you can look at unleashing the hounds.
I see Haley taking things back to “the basics”. You have to start there. We’ve got to work at being decent…before we can be good. And we have to be good…before we can be great. Bad news is…we have to do this on Offense, Defense, AND Special Teams. Good news is…I firmly believe that Pioli and Haley will get us there.
“I think you have to (use starters) now a days” said Haley.
- translation: “I ‘check’ made a stupid statement about any 22 being good enough to win many games with so now I have to do a tap dance by trying to draw folks attention in another direction. Alas, Rin caught me with my pants down round my ankles - it’s a good look for me - and He will never let me forget or live it down. I was such a fool.”
Caught in the act with his ’slip’(up) showing, ‘check’mated again!
heh heh heh
JW,
Next time I feel the need to beat a dead horse…I’ll give you a call. ‘Cause you da man!
I guess you keep saying the same old sh*t over and over…because that’s all you got.
More wheat’check’s the mo(u)rning bowl his mea culpas:
“We are going to be solid”
- translation: “what a ‘waste’ of a season this will be.”
“we are going to do the basics right and I doubt we’ll be real fancy”
- translation: “man is it going to be a real long season - I remember what Marv Levy did in 1978 by trying to keep his defense off the field via ball control - I’m going to take it a step further and try to keep ‘both’ my offense and defense off the field & play REALLY small ball - nod toward Billy Martin.
Oh, this isn’t golf- er, I mean…baseball? Well, so much for that great idea of mine. Say - have I told you all the one about how I can take any 22 players and…”
heh heh heh
Herm was bad in every phase of being a head coach, so here is to a new start.
As I moved from KC to Phoenix, AZ two years ago, I can say that watching what Haley did in Phoenix makes me excited to see him stepping into the role of head coach and I’m excited to see what he does for us back at Arrowhead. While Rin Tin Tin was happy to catch his guffaw, I think that Rin may be dissapointed soon as Haley seems to learn fast and will have the public speaking down to an art soon. But for my pleasure, I kinda like a coach that says what he means, even if most people think it’s wrong.
No surprise that Rin wants to see Todd Haley with his pants down. He claims to love Herm but if he ever met Haley in a private setting, Haley’s balls would be bouncing off Rin’s chin chin! Rin sucks, but Herm sucks more!
colby your comments are dead on. And that may be a problem. If Pioli/Haley believe carl/herm were incompetant on every level, you need to worry about how they will view the players they have to keep. It is fine to say 22 guys off the street but you cannot dump the entire team and preform on any level in the NFL. Some of the 08 team has to produce. My fear is Pioli/Haley believe this team is totally garbage (I am not sure it is not).
Brian,
Good to hear.
As for me personally, I don’t care if Haley has public speaking skills or not. I just want him to win games. Herm was great in front of the camera…although it was mostly making excuses. Didn’t count for too much, I’d say.
And as for JW Rin’s battlecry of “Any 22″? Unless he was a part of the conversation, which he wasn’t…nobody really knows if that’s what was even said. Only Haley and Waters know for sure. There’s two sides to every story…and I doubt if any of us will ever know exactly what all WAS said. It sure took Waters back to the “toddler” stage…whatever it was. For awhile, I kept thinking maybe he’d “man-up”. Now, I don’t even care. If he doesn’t want to get with the program…then send his crybaby ass on down the road.
He HE He He anonymous your crazy. You come up with some stuff man.
tm1946 says:
” My fear is Pioli/Haley believe this team is totally garbage (I am not sure it is not).”
What makes you think that? Just curious.
More ‘fake’ Rin kudos for the one, the only, the original - ‘Rin Tin Tin!
No one - NO ONE - can read Him just once… like the Swallows Capistrano, return they ‘er’ & e’ry day to adore Him - keep those blog posts, gifts, tithes and love offerings comin’ in folks!
Meanwhile, back at ‘ground z-e-r-o’:
‘check’ says “Hey, have I told you the one about how I can take any 22 players and…”
heh heh heh
From Monday’s discussion brought forward: “Here’s one for you SG (maybe you can help out the dr and the other like flotsam & jetsam this blog)
Recall any talk about the Chiefs conditioning in 2008? From any source?”
Yes. I hear tale there was a RedZone podcast where a certain O-lineman said Herm ran “toned-down practices.” Let’s see…”The intensity of practice and working out has picked up and it has changed for the good.” “Last year that cost us finishing games.” “If we’re not finishing games, it’s gotta be mental or physical conditioning.”
JW says:
“No one - NO ONE - can read Him just once…”
We could…if you stopped posting 50 times a day.
Rin Tin Tin says:
SG says
“Yes.”
- date, time, speaker? Let me take a bold step: it was made ‘this year’- and not ‘last’ as Rin referenced, not in year of our Lord Herm 2008?
Too, a lone voice in the wilderness e’en be afore us - how much validity to put in one if so? That answer: none. Where is the groundswell, where the mob, where? Answer? Be none…is none, was none.
Rin’s truth is marching on for - reiterating - no one was talking (or complaining) about it in 2008 - ‘after’ the fact - ‘brave’ men nee cockroaches slither furtively out stealthy holes where kept they personal peeves…alas, no heroes integrity whence the time to speak up -THEN - was nigh on; ‘cowards’ by any other, no credibility and sour grapes too.
Another swing & a miss by SG - per the usual! Least you tried unlike the more common rabble…
heh heh heh
“a lone voice”
Ok…how about two…during a Serius Satellite Radio broadcast…a certain returning QB…to remain nameless…that you favor “…just told us that he felt like some of the players took advantage of the freedom that Herm Edwards gave them.”
Wait Rin…how about 3?
Paraphrased from RedZone Podcast with Turk McBride: “Across the board guys are in better shape…Training camp is going to be a lot more physical and more running. There is a whole different look in peoples eyes..much more focused.”
Listen guys, I know Rin is unbelievably aggravating and often makes you want to claw your eyes out with a fork, but you have to understand what you’re dealing with here. Clearly the man is suffering from debilitating mental pathologies. No healthy person posts the exact same “herms the man” quote on every star Chiefs story for months without a significant degree of deficiency (in this case, an unfortunate mix of OCD and autism). To make matters worse, he is constantly trying desperately to establish his worth (and in this case, his superiority) by attempting to talk over all of your heads. I know this feels like murder to swallow, but the truth is, he just wants you to like him. Because deep down, he doesn’t like himself.
So go easy on the poor guy. You’re not dealing with a healthy, properly functioning mind. The more you fight him, the more he lashes out to establish his value. Unfortunately it looks like you’re stuck with him for the long haul. Try to think of him as your own personal Corky, rather than trying to make sense out of his posts or reasoning with him.
Hey, life goes on.
And the silence be defeaning…just as expected. Rin told you ‘thyn’ & He tells you ‘agin’ -
No one - common fan to paid scribe to player or other made a peep 2008 on the record; brings us to this thought:
What is now happening / will be happening during this bound for NY Titanic season Chiefs ‘09 that ‘is not & will not’ reach shore safe harbor nee be known - heard - or spoken of, until…season aft this one be sunk Atlantic nee AFC West, nee next/2010?
What player, scribe or fandom secrets of ‘check’ loathing /’search’ overload willst become known?
Stay tuned! Or, just continue to read Rin as you all do…He will save you the disappointment for He learned from one e’en greater than He that is me Rin: be from EM Cioran, who said (referencing Chiefs fandom response to ‘check’):
“As a general rule, men expect disappointment: they know they must not be impatient, that it will come soon or later, that it will hold off long enough for them to proceed with their undertakings of the moment.”
(Translation: ‘check’ is the undertaker - he’ll bury you as the Chiefs.)
EM continues:
“The disabused man is different…for him (nee KC fandom), disappointment occurs at the ’same time’ as the deed (the hiring aft Superbowl last) - he has no need to await it, it is present.”
But naught for long…
heh heh heh
Sounds as if a ’select few’ Chiefs (one, or two - why, even three?) be as malleable via the safety distance Herm’s departure as they be to embracing the backside a new golf coach who shall lead them down the fairway toward football perdition.
Alright, lemme see - 53 active, 8 developmental, several more IR, PUP, NFB, etc. etc. etc., & we have found a ‘groundswell” of… three?
The Iceman ^ he commeth now 2009, out the 2008 shadows, not so amber waves of…but three.
heh heh heh
Rin’s Therapist, AMEN!!!
I look at it this way, his argument is haley sucks(zero head coach experience, he may or may not suck, but you cannot make that statement yet)…while Herm is great….(Same herm who won 2 of his last 25 games, same herm that if he won 16 games this year with Haley as head coach and added it in, hes still under .500 in that span.
give it up, I supported Herm, but hes not the coach anymore, so now its time to support Haley, and as for “public speaking”…please…Parcells and Bellichek are both poor public speakers, however both are fantastic at their jobs.
Rin’s therapist needs to come on here more often. Getting tired of 80 percent of the posts being either Rin, a Rin fake, or me complaining about rin…
Rin Tin Tin is Jason Whitlock.
I’m sorry that was my own self diagnosis I referred to earlier. I’m a real mess.
Rin is feeling a whole lot of Rin love (as well as self angst theirs) on this blog…
heh heh heh
I’m the Michael Jordan of motivating Michael Jordan!!!
Time Check 3:45 and Haley is still the Man!!!
“Time Check 3:45 and Haley is still the Man!”
Time “check” 3:53 and Rin’s got too many fans posing as therapists, etc. SG YAWNS…
“On November 4 they activated returner Kevin Robinson from the Physically Unable to Perform List.”
Would there have been any players left if the team set up a “Mentally Unable to Perform List?”
It appears as though the heat has melted a few brains today.
Basking in the ne’erending glow his e’er faithful blog fandom - Rin leads and the rest follow Him!
heh heh heh
Yup, Rin’s a legend in his own mind. What little there is of it.
Cue paraphrased Crispian St. Peters “Pied Piper” -
“You
With your masquerading
And you
Always contemplating
What to do
In case heaven has found you
Can’t you see
That Rin’s all around you
So follow He
[1, 2: Hey] come on, babe
Follow He
Rin’s the Pied Piper
Follow He
Rin’s the Pied Piper
And He’ll show you where it’s at
Come on, babe
Can’t you see
Rin’s the Pied Piper
Trust in He
Rin’s the Pied Piper
And He’ll show you where it’s at
Girl
Don’t be scared to move
Hey, babe
What are you tryin’ to prove
It ain’t true
That your life has kicked you
It’s your mind
And that’s all that’s trickin’ you
So step in line
Come on, babe
Follow He
Come on, babe
Trust in He
Come on, babe
Can’t you see
Come on, babe
Follow He
Rin’s the Pied Piper
Just listen to all those cheers & look at all that Chiefs fandom following Rin!
I recognize several from this particular thread!
heh heh heh
IF THESE FEW PEOPLE DONT STOP THIS CRAP, BOB WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET MORE ADDS AND CLIENTS TOO KEEP PAYING BILLS AND KEEP THIS SITE ALIVE. YOU ARE DRAGGING THE BLOG DOWN!! NEW BLOGGERS WILL COME HERE AND SEE THIS CRAP LIKE TODAY AND NEVER VISIT THE SITE AGAIN. GOOD JOB, IDIOTS
KEEP IT UP, RUIN IT FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think people come here more so for the articles, rather than to read what we have to say about them afterwards. If nothing else, I’d think it would reflect well for Bob to see how many responses he gets from day to day after each piece he writes.
I wouldn’t worry too much about Bob getting shut down due to “silly poster”. I think in some ways, it’s even a bit more interesting this way.
I’m sorry its that time of the month for me.
At least you’re not writing poetry to pass the time.
All the more reason to have an account we register for…and have to log into to make a comment. That makes everyone a little more accountable for their comments. And would cut down on SOME of the BS posted under made up names.
SOME not including my own continuing limp offerings.
Chiefs Sign another 7th rounder. J. O’Connell
That must mean it’s Friday.
I understand your view, and I do visit this site everyday for the articles, but reading peoples comments is part of it for me, and alot of it is trash.
I know you can say, if the blog was that important why dont I post more? Well true, but im usually busy and dont have time to blog all the time. SO I enjoy others input and ideas more than posting my own.
Besides all that, I wish some people should get a LIFE!!
Especially since I don’t have one of my own.
gorillafan says:
Besides all that, I wish some people should get a LIFE!!
I feel ya!!
Wow, someone posting as me and not themself, what a shocker!
BYE
So this is what it is like to try to walk out of a deep lake. Progress is slow and smothering.
gorillafan says:
“Wow, someone posting as me and not themself, what a shocker!”
I know that feeling.
I like to read the articles…AND get into discussions on the comments section. There’s some good stuff here. Good fans…some differing opinions…and that’s what makes it cool. We all have some different ideas on things. But the common thread is that we’re all Chiefs fans…and we all want our team to do well. Well…at least MOST of us do.
I think pretty much all of the BS and bogus posts come from one person. And anyone with half a brain can figure out who that person is. Someone who has a personal beef with Bob…as a matter of fact, is what I think. And for whatever reason…jealousy, I’m guessing…comes here to try to F-up his site. That’s my little “conspiracy theory”. Or part of it, anyway. There’s more…but I’ll keep it to myself. For now.
Well, I used to post on this site when it first started running last year (before the trolls took hold). It was a really nice discussion and the commenters were mature enough to keep on topic without the intentional bashing. I agree that a registration would be helpful and ease the confusion of people posting under other’s names. Plus it would be nice to have a moderator that could ban, limit, or maim people that constantly troll or hijack threads. IMHO. Those of you that comment intelligently and with courtesy to the subject presented in Bob’s blog help to keep me coming back. Well, that and I’m addicted to Chiefs news.
“Listen, I’m trying to win games and I want to win them in any manner I can” said Haley.
- translation: ‘I don’t have the horses- but with another draft I’ve now more than Herm had- and as such if I don’t win at least 12 games this year I am done. Jr. won’t support me anymore than he did the scapegoat for ‘08, Herm.’
Cue Peter, Paul & Mary paraphrase -
“All ‘check’s bags are packed, he’s ready to go, he’s layin’ prone his pulse be low
I hate to wake him up to say ‘you blow’
But off season’s breakin, reg soon draws near
Training camp cometh - his last one here
Already duff’s so weak-kneed he could cry.
Chorus:
So diss ‘check’ and laugh at grim
Tell him that youll suffer him
Scold he like the golf coach that he be.
He’s leavin season aft plane
He knows he won’t e’er be back again
Oh ’search’ - ‘check’- hates to go…
“We’ve got to have strong special teams, because”
- translation: ‘we have no defense- and even less offense.’
“it will make the difference between winning and losing
- negligible.”
Translation: ‘you build a team from the special teams ‘out’, via any 22…why even I know that.’
“most weeks. We need to have everything possible going for us in a positive direction.”
- translation: ‘thank Rin aka God there are only 16 actual weeks for me to take it in the shorts.’
“I want a kicking game that we can count on.”
- translation: ‘I also want someone to work with me overcoming my propensity to sweat like a *** when the camera is on me. I can’t hide behind my 5 o’clock shadow & “any 22″ jibberish forever.’
Brian said
“Those of you that comment intelligently and with courtesy to the subject presented in Bob’s blog help to keep me coming back.”
- thank you, Rin appreciates yours kudos for He/me.
Yes Im Guilty of using names like
Rins a Dumb Dumb
Rins a Toy Poodle
Rins not a Chief Fan
and a few other that I have forgot. Never have I used his Name Rin Tin Tin and I won’t. BUT
I won’t stop Jabbing back at him anytime soon as long as he has it coming.
Enjoy Bobs post as I do. Chime in when and if you like I do.
BTW Rins a Dumb Dumb is my favorite posting name feel free to use it any time you like.
Actually Im the dumb dumb but then you could tell just by my choice of username and without my help right?
I love Rin Tin Tin. Hes the smartest person on this blog and we should all be very happy hes one of us.
I know I am.
Rin Tin Tin is Jason Whitlock.
I do wish we could lose the idiot, and just talk football.
Mostly talk about the story at hand, and not…some old haley quote…
And agreed with this website needing to stay clean in a way. Bob Gretz does a GREAT job of putting up good information, and inside info that we just cant get anywhere else.
And I love Jason almost as much as I loved Herm.
The hits just keep on coming from Chief players as to why HHem Edwards was not only the worst Coach in Chief history, but one of the worst in NFL History. What a clown.
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“The way Coach (Dick) Vermeil handled special teams is what they did when they drafted me, it was to go get a good punter and that will take care of the punting,” said Colquitt. “With Herm (Edwards) it was let’s figure out defense and offense and whoever else is left over we’ll put on special teams.”
KC’s Head Golf Coach ‘check’ talking about his coaching ‘prowess’ based on results to date:
‘check’: I can take any 22 players from off the street and win more than 2 games. I can also-
Reporter: Well why haven’t you then?
‘check’: What do you mean?
Reporter: Well, you’ve never played football in college or the NFL, have never been a Head Coach either - isn’t that correct?
‘check’ Well no- I mean yes, I haven’t. I mean - stop confusing me. Say, did you make appointment first before you barged into the executive level here?
Reporter: Is there a problem?
‘check’: Oh, well I’m not prepared, & wasn’t expecting to have to answer such complicated questions as you can tell.
Reporter: Yes…well anyway, will the Chiefs be any more so prepared in 2009?
‘check’: Oh of course…its a game that is played on grass just like golf- as long as there’s a tee on the ground in front of me- be it a golf tee or kicking tee- I feel right at home; both the games are quite similar you know. 18 holes, 2 endzones, hash marks, sand traps, a first half and a back nine…I’m really excited about how many strokes I can cut from the Chiefs game this season.
Reporter: Uh huh…
‘check’: Oh yes.
Reporter: Let me write that down (’coach talks about football using non sequitur golf analogy’.) Well, you’re 42 now - what’s taken you so long? DEN’s new man is only 33 for example and TB’s-
‘check’: Age is just a number, just like points in football, strokes in golf etc. PITT may have scored more points in the Superbowl - truth is, we won that game- we just ran out of time. Now, if I’d just had another 22 seconds-
Reporter: You’re joking?
‘check’: Oh no, I never joke - I had my sense of humor surgically excised…just look at me.
Reporter: I see what you mean. Now then, you were a golf coach…what was your handicap?
‘check’: My inability to communicate effectively with others - odd considering that when I was in college Communications was my major.
Reporter: So back to the blind leading the blind - you weren’t a football player but tried golf - what’s the old adage: those that can ‘do’ while those that can’t try and teach others?
‘check’: Did I tell you who my dad was/ He-
Reporter: Said bailiwick yours having been placed in evidence nee action as twere, how’d offensive genius yours do this last Superbowl game?
‘check’: Well…we lost.
Reporter: A four point loss, albeit your offense got hammered actually - 2 turnovers - 1 INT & 1 fumble lost - less than 27 total minutes on the field - only 33 rushing yards total and only 23 points. Hardly the stuff of offensive legend and especially in the biggest game of the season and your career.
‘check’: yeah but-
Reporter: Hold those “yeah buts” a moment - when the game was on the line at the end your offense crumbled like a 10¢ orchid, right?
‘check’: Correct.
Reporter: And earlier in the game your offense gave 7 points to PITT, when instead you should have scored yourself, there upon the precipice the PITT goal line - isn’t that true ‘check’?
‘check’: Well…uh…yeah.
Reporter: And so now KC has hired you to do the same for them. Any reason you were hired in lieu of a coach who’d actually played the game either college or pro?
‘check’: Well I just- you mean football or golf?
Reporter: What do you think?
‘check’: I think the same thing now that I did Superbowl 43 - I can take any 22 guys from off the street and…
heh heh heh
Reporter: Why did you fire Herm Edwards?
Clark Hunt: Because he lost 14 game last season and let the team down by not keeping them in shape.
Reporter: Has there every been a Coach with the Chiefs that has had this poor of a season before?
Clark Hunt: Never
Reporter: So are you saying that Herm Edwards lost more games in one season than any other coach in Chiefs history?
Clark Hunt: Yes
Reporter: But Herm was a nice Guy and all the players loved him.
Clark Hunt: Sorry.. nice guy dont make good NFL coachs. I bet I can fine a golf coach off the street that can win more games than Herm did.
OK now off the record I was losing a ton of money and Herm’s departure had absolutely nothing to do with his coaching. Herm was a great coach and one of the very best in my opinion.
It was purely about dollars. I have no illusions about the new guy I brought in. He’s not as good a coach but if the fans want to believe he might be and the result is the turnstiles are purring, that’s what it’s all about.
Wins or losses are not as important as the bottom line. A good return on the investment is priority number one with me.
Herm was the best coach this franchise has had since Hank Stram was here, but I decided to go with pacifying the fans by helping empty their pockets.
By the time they realize this new guy is a joke I’ll be able to hire a real Head Coach and then we can look at returning this team to greatness it was headed for before Herm departed. I might even beg Herm to come back. If he’ll have me.
OK you got the scoop.
Reporter: Thanks for the scoop. One more thing you know that golf coach you hired off the street right.
Clark Hunt: Yea
Reporter: If he wins more then 2 games this season it sure is going to make Herm Edwards look pretty bad.
Clark Hunt: Yep
Clark Hunt: But off the record again he couldn’t coach golf any better than he can count.
Reporter: Why?
Clark Hunt: Well it’s a numbers thing. First it was 18 holes make a round. Now it’s he can take any 22 and do better. The guy isn’t even aware it takes 53 players and you need all of them.
Reporter: You know you’re right.
Clark Hunt: Yeah. It looks like he’s mixing golf links with cuff links and all the while mumbling something about a dunk and dink passing game you know, like the one laid an egg in the Superbowl.
Reporter: Oh yes, what a beat down. So what are you going to do?
Clark Hunt: Well I’m going to be keeping a very keen eye on that boy. I’ve already got a short list of re4placements ready.
Reporter: Good idea.