Comments on: Conversation with Gunther http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/conversation-with-gunther.html Dedicated to providing the best coverage of the Kansas City Chiefs. News, commentary, reports, and exclusive inside information - daily! Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:22:07 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Tim-may http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/conversation-with-gunther.html/comment-page-1#comment-495 Tim-may Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:56:04 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=908#comment-495 No WAY... If they fire GUN... I say we burn Arrowhead down!!! GUN is the man... He deserves to be a CHIEF the rest of his life, for what he's given this team and town... The rebuilding has begun, lets give both Herm and Gun at least two years to see what they can do, and I can promise you this.. Watchout for GUN's DDDD No WAY… If they fire GUN… I say we burn Arrowhead down!!! GUN is the man… He deserves to be a CHIEF the rest of his life, for what he’s given this team and town…

The rebuilding has begun, lets give both Herm and Gun at least two years to see what they can do, and I can promise you this.. Watchout for GUN’s DDDD

]]> By: Dave http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/conversation-with-gunther.html/comment-page-1#comment-494 Dave Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:32:39 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=908#comment-494 That's a great interview. My favorite line: "He probably can't handle me, that is probably his biggest problem. I tried to love him up a little bit and that didn't work." Nice to hear how hard DJ is practicing That’s a great interview.

My favorite line: “He probably can’t handle me, that is probably his biggest problem. I tried to love him up a little bit and that didn’t work.”

Nice to hear how hard DJ is practicing

]]> By: Ricky-poo http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/conversation-with-gunther.html/comment-page-1#comment-483 Ricky-poo Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:05:26 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=908#comment-483 For those who disparage GC's time as HC with the Chiefs I find that a little off. He went 16-16 as a first time HC. He took over a decimated and declining team under the Shott. A team that had attitude problems in the locker room and on the field. After his first season, 9-7, just missing the playoffs because of kickers that couldn't keep the ball in bounds, DT dies. Not only that, CP lost his mother. GC also had some internal family problems that were not fully disclosed. All of that turmoil during that off season. GC had to deal with all of it while still trying to learn how to be a head coach. At the same time the stupid fans in KC were all over him for some reason. Grbac was hated and only cheered after being knocked unconscious even though he came back and threw 4 TDs in that game against SD. The fans of this team pissed off the footballs Gods for being idiots and haters during that time period. The curse has yet to be lifted. Cunningham introduced a respectable passing game to KC in his first year. Grbac threw for over 4000 yards and they ranked in the top 10 in passing. Grbac was still widely unaccepted. The next year their running game stood up and was ranked in the top 10. Remember Kimble Anders? Under GC their offense during those two years was a top 10. Defense was next on his list. I felt it. I never looked more forward to a KC season as I did before GC's would be third year. Then the axe fell. Whooosh! GC's gone and enter CP's croonie Vermeil. The curse could have been lifted if Cunningham was kept on because he was a year or two away from a SB quality team. Instead he was out on his rear. Dumb, dumb, dumb. This franchise blew their chance right there. Cunningham could have been a great HC if he was given a fair chance. I'd be curious, Bob, to hear what you have to say about that time period. For those who disparage GC’s time as HC with the Chiefs I find that a little off. He went 16-16 as a first time HC. He took over a decimated and declining team under the Shott. A team that had attitude problems in the locker room and on the field. After his first season, 9-7, just missing the playoffs because of kickers that couldn’t keep the ball in bounds, DT dies. Not only that, CP lost his mother. GC also had some internal family problems that were not fully disclosed. All of that turmoil during that off season. GC had to deal with all of it while still trying to learn how to be a head coach. At the same time the stupid fans in KC were all over him for some reason. Grbac was hated and only cheered after being knocked unconscious even though he came back and threw 4 TDs in that game against SD. The fans of this team pissed off the footballs Gods for being idiots and haters during that time period. The curse has yet to be lifted.

Cunningham introduced a respectable passing game to KC in his first year. Grbac threw for over 4000 yards and they ranked in the top 10 in passing. Grbac was still widely unaccepted. The next year their running game stood up and was ranked in the top 10. Remember Kimble Anders? Under GC their offense during those two years was a top 10. Defense was next on his list. I felt it. I never looked more forward to a KC season as I did before GC’s would be third year. Then the axe fell. Whooosh! GC’s gone and enter CP’s croonie Vermeil. The curse could have been lifted if Cunningham was kept on because he was a year or two away from a SB quality team. Instead he was out on his rear. Dumb, dumb, dumb. This franchise blew their chance right there. Cunningham could have been a great HC if he was given a fair chance.

I’d be curious, Bob, to hear what you have to say about that time period.

]]> By: A Pacific Chief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/conversation-with-gunther.html/comment-page-1#comment-482 A Pacific Chief Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:01:54 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=908#comment-482 Dude you crack me up...Do you remember when Gun had Derrick, Neil, Dale, James Hasty? No one was complaining about Gun then. He defenses were consistently ranked in the top 5 in the league. Now give him the players to run his defense and he'll be considered by other teams a head coach material again...oh wait lets not go that far, but he a great Defensive Coordinator. Gun can't be blamed for the lack of talent that he's been given in the past. Dude you crack me up…Do you remember when Gun had Derrick, Neil, Dale, James Hasty? No one was complaining about Gun then. He defenses were consistently ranked in the top 5 in the league. Now give him the players to run his defense and he’ll be considered by other teams a head coach material again…oh wait lets not go that far, but he a great Defensive Coordinator. Gun can’t be blamed for the lack of talent that he’s been given in the past.

]]> By: Cline http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/conversation-with-gunther.html/comment-page-1#comment-480 Cline Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:27:40 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=908#comment-480 Mark, so I take it you are overlooking that Gun was forced to work with what was given to him by DV's old defenses? Are we forgetting that he has begged every year for players of a higher standard? No coach is going to suceed with what we have had. When he got here he had Fujita, Barber, and Mazlowski, Mitchell, he got Bell, but that's about it. Since he has started getting pieces we have overhauled the defense. It takes time. And each new piece takes time to get familiar with the scheme and language. He will be held accountable when he fails to make a difference. And I believe that in the last 5 years we have went from the 32nd ranked D to damn near top 10. I say let him do whatever he is doing because 20+ spots later we apparently have forgotten what it was like when he came back. Mark, so I take it you are overlooking that Gun was forced to work with what was given to him by DV’s old defenses? Are we forgetting that he has begged every year for players of a higher standard?

No coach is going to suceed with what we have had. When he got here he had Fujita, Barber, and Mazlowski, Mitchell, he got Bell, but that’s about it. Since he has started getting pieces we have overhauled the defense. It takes time. And each new piece takes time to get familiar with the scheme and language.

He will be held accountable when he fails to make a difference. And I believe that in the last 5 years we have went from the 32nd ranked D to damn near top 10. I say let him do whatever he is doing because 20+ spots later we apparently have forgotten what it was like when he came back.

]]> By: Mark http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/conversation-with-gunther.html/comment-page-1#comment-479 Mark Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:25:40 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=908#comment-479 THIS Mark welcomes the changes Gun seems to be making with the LB's, because it appears for the 1st time since he's been back, he's going to run HIS D, and not what DV wanted him to run, or the Tampa 2 that Herm was pretty adamant about the last 2 years. I wish they had come to this conclusion earlier, because we'd still have the MLB Gun never wanted to get away, in Kawika, who is the missing piece we need at MLB, a mad dog against the run and near the line of scrimmage. Gun believes more in LB's going toward the LOS, not backpedaling and dropping into zones like Greg Robinson and Herm wanted. This year, he gets his wish. THIS Mark welcomes the changes Gun seems to be making with the LB’s, because it appears for the 1st time since he’s been back, he’s going to run HIS D, and not what DV wanted him to run, or the Tampa 2 that Herm was pretty adamant about the last 2 years. I wish they had come to this conclusion earlier, because we’d still have the MLB Gun never wanted to get away, in Kawika, who is the missing piece we need at MLB, a mad dog against the run and near the line of scrimmage. Gun believes more in LB’s going toward the LOS, not backpedaling and dropping into zones like Greg Robinson and Herm wanted. This year, he gets his wish.

]]> By: TimInKC http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/conversation-with-gunther.html/comment-page-1#comment-478 TimInKC Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:51:28 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=908#comment-478 Annnnd, a run-of-the-mill head-hunting, pessimistic, Chiefs "fan" arrives, right on cue to interrupt the calm, informative discussion with some good old-fashioned grenade-throwing. Welcome, sir! Has the sky fallen yet? ---Tim Annnnd, a run-of-the-mill head-hunting, pessimistic, Chiefs “fan” arrives, right on cue to interrupt the calm, informative discussion with some good old-fashioned grenade-throwing. Welcome, sir! Has the sky fallen yet?

—Tim

]]> By: Mark http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/conversation-with-gunther.html/comment-page-1#comment-476 Mark Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:39:57 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=908#comment-476 Honestly, I'm getting sick of all the excuses the fans,media and coaches make for Gun every year. How many years is the Chiefs Defense going to stink and be known as one of the most underachieving and worst tackling defenses in the NFL before he is finally held accountable? We have changed the offensive philosophy in K.C. I think it's overdue to change the Defensive approach and coaches also. Honestly, I’m getting sick of all the excuses the fans,media and coaches make for Gun every year.

How many years is the Chiefs Defense going to stink and be known as one of the most underachieving and worst tackling defenses in the NFL before he is finally held accountable?

We have changed the offensive philosophy in K.C. I think it’s overdue to change the Defensive approach and coaches also.

]]> By: TimInKC http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/conversation-with-gunther.html/comment-page-1#comment-474 TimInKC Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:59:42 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=908#comment-474 My concern doesn't rise from the idea that my "expected" linebackers won't be on the field, but instead my concern comes from the fact that it's sounding like we're running a revolving door at the linebacking spots during training camp, with nobody able to really stand up and take charge of a spot (other than DJ). It doesn't really matter to me WHO the 3 guys are that are out on the field, but I do want them to be able to play. Just putting "the next guy" out there doesn't necessarily mean that guy can play...it just means the guy in there before him couldn't. But, as you said, we'll look for Gun to get things sorted out for Week 1. As a side note, I've very glad to hear that Demorrio Williams is picking up the pace after a reported slow first couple of weeks of camp. ---Tim My concern doesn’t rise from the idea that my “expected” linebackers won’t be on the field, but instead my concern comes from the fact that it’s sounding like we’re running a revolving door at the linebacking spots during training camp, with nobody able to really stand up and take charge of a spot (other than DJ).

It doesn’t really matter to me WHO the 3 guys are that are out on the field, but I do want them to be able to play. Just putting “the next guy” out there doesn’t necessarily mean that guy can play…it just means the guy in there before him couldn’t. But, as you said, we’ll look for Gun to get things sorted out for Week 1.

As a side note, I’ve very glad to hear that Demorrio Williams is picking up the pace after a reported slow first couple of weeks of camp.

—Tim

]]> By: Nick http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/conversation-with-gunther.html/comment-page-1#comment-473 Nick Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:23:40 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=908#comment-473 TimInKC....Like Gun said, the three linebackers on the field will be able to play, just cuz its not who we (as fans) "expected" to be on the field shouldn't cause too much concern. I like Guns killer instinct approach to this...if you are not getting the job done you will not be on the field come Sunday, this makes me confident the backers will mean business even if its other names beside edwards and harris on the field. I think (hope) it will shake out just fine... :) TimInKC….Like Gun said, the three linebackers on the field will be able to play, just cuz its not who we (as fans) “expected” to be on the field shouldn’t cause too much concern. I like Guns killer instinct approach to this…if you are not getting the job done you will not be on the field come Sunday, this makes me confident the backers will mean business even if its other names beside edwards and harris on the field. I think (hope) it will shake out just fine… :)

]]> By: Alex Korson http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/conversation-with-gunther.html/comment-page-1#comment-472 Alex Korson Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:06:15 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=908#comment-472 Thanks for that update Bob, Linebacker is probably one of my biggest concerns for this chiefs team. I 100 percent agree with Gun on Rumph, he looked very out of place in the bears game. Glad to hear that Gun will be using Demorrio's speed a lot this year.... If anything this seems to show the chiefs may pick up another linebacker much like they did Baldwin. Thanks for that update Bob, Linebacker is probably one of my biggest concerns for this chiefs team. I 100 percent agree with Gun on Rumph, he looked very out of place in the bears game. Glad to hear that Gun will be using Demorrio’s speed a lot this year….

If anything this seems to show the chiefs may pick up another linebacker much like they did Baldwin.

]]> By: TimInKC http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/conversation-with-gunther.html/comment-page-1#comment-471 TimInKC Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:33:48 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=908#comment-471 Things change quickly in the NFL. I remember thinking that linebacker would be a strength back in the spring when the Chiefs signed Demorrio Williams, since the team started to look deep at linebacker. Now that Donnie Edwards is dealing with age and injuries, and with Napoleon Harris apparently struggling to the point of trying to stay employed, the linebacking corps suddenly looks to be a significant cause for concern heading into the season. We'll see how it shakes out... Things change quickly in the NFL. I remember thinking that linebacker would be a strength back in the spring when the Chiefs signed Demorrio Williams, since the team started to look deep at linebacker. Now that Donnie Edwards is dealing with age and injuries, and with Napoleon Harris apparently struggling to the point of trying to stay employed, the linebacking corps suddenly looks to be a significant cause for concern heading into the season. We’ll see how it shakes out…

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