Colquitt’s Comeback … Weekend Cup O’Chiefs 6-27/28

First it was a groin pull, where eventually the muscle pulled away from the bone.

Then it was a sports hernia.

Finally, there was damage to his pelvis.

Physical problems No. 1 and 2 required surgery. All three meant a great deal of rehab that started in January.

Through those injuries last year, Dustin Colquitt kept punting. He missed two games when the groin pull became too much to bear. But he came back and kicked the rest of the season. In that time, he couldn’t practice during the week and he had problems running. Every day was an adventure in pain, treatment and patience.

Years from now, fans will look at Colquitt’s numbers for the 2008 season – a -yard gross average and a -yard net average – and think it was an ordinary to good year for the punter out of Tennessee.

Those numbers can in no way explain the physical, mental and emotional pain that Colquitt endured during what proved to be a long, long season.

“It was a tough year,” Colquitt said. “I read and heard some things where people said I had lost it, or wasn’t having a good year, that it was time for the Chiefs to find another punter, stuff like that … if people only knew.”

There are some fans who think being mysterious about injuries is something new to the Chiefs under the direction of GM Scott Pioli. Not so. Last year under Herm Edwards players were told specifically not to talk about their injuries. Sometimes they slipped and revealed too much to the media. They ended up hearing about it from the coaching staff and one player said he was fined for giving away information on his health.

Attempts to keep an opponent from knowing there might be a physical problem is understandable. But it leaves a player hanging when he struggles through a season and the fans and media do not know why he has problems.

“It’s very frustrating,” said Colquitt. “In light of everything that happened to me physically, I thought it was a good year. But nobody knows that.”

Todd Haley did. Back in February at the NFL Combine the Chiefs head coach was asked what he had learned about his team in the few weeks he’d been on the job. Haley mentioned that the Chiefs had a good punter and that was about all he had found in looking at the tapes from the 2-14 season.

“It was a compliment, especially after a season where I struggled mentally so badly, trying to get over the hump with the injuries,” said Colquitt. “To say that after I was going through so much pain, it was good. I still had a good year. My swing the last eight games of the season, you could tell it wasn’t the same. It was just that I couldn’t kick much during the week.”

So how does a punter get hurt? In Colquitt’s case it wasn’t from kicking. It was from holding. Go back to the ’08 off-season and the Chiefs were trying to find a kicker. They were auditioning three for several months: Billy Cundiff, Nick Novak and rookie Connor Barth. Along the way other kickers came to town to workout, guys like Mike Vanderjagt and Jay Feely.

It was Colquitt who held for all of those kickers, working out of a crouched position for hours.

“I was holding three days a week, 70 some kicks every day for those three days and I started experiencing some weird feelings in my groin,” said Colquitt. “I didn’t think it was serious and once we settled on Nick at the start of the year, it didn’t hurt as much.

“At the Carolina game I came back out at halftime and I had that firecracker feeling going on in that area. I didn’t know what it was.”

That firecracker feeling was the sports hernia. Then in the second half against the Panthers, Colquitt got off a good punt. That’s when his groin muscle pulled away from the bone. That was followed by problems with his pelvic region.

“Everybody thought it was just a groin injury, but it was pelvic floor damage and the sports hernia too,” Colquitt said. “I couldn’t run at all. Getting out of a chair was tough.”

Colquitt kicked the next week against Tennessee, but then missed two games as Steve Weatherford stepped in for him. But Colquitt came back and kicked in the final eight games of the season. His numbers from the first five games and the last nine reveal the difference in his production:

  • First six games: 37 punts for 1,772 yards, a gross average of 47.9 yards and a net average of 40.3 yards.
  • Last eight games: 33 punts for 1,338 yards, a gross average of 40.6 and a net average of 36.2 yards.

A cold weather punter’s numbers will always go down late in the season because of weather conditions and kicking outside.

“I started very strong and things were going pretty good,” Colquitt said. “I put five out inside the 20 against the Raiders and had a 73-yard kick. Against Tennessee, even with my leg on fire, I had a 66-yard punt and we had a team net of over 41 yards (41.6). We had a 45-yard net against Atlanta.

“I got hurt and so did a lot of other guys. Everything got turned upside down during the season.”

That it did and the overall poor production from the kicking game was one of the factors that led to a 2-14 record and ultimately all the changes that came down after the season. That includes Haley as head coach and Steve Hoffman handling the special teams.

“Hoff has got a very dynamic way, specific way of going about punting and kicking,” Colquitt said. “He understands things from the view of the kicker and punter, from our perspective. Before it was cover this, gunners got to do this, we were just expected to make a good kick. He makes everything relevant to where the ball is. He brings a different perspective.”

This isn’t the first time Hoffman and Colquitt worked together. When the Chiefs drafted him in the third round back in 2005, they brought a then out of the NFL Hoffman to Kansas City to work with their new punter.

“He came in here and worked with me for two or three days,” Colquitt said. “They thought there were some kinks they thought I could improve on and it really helped me to see that other perspective. It’s nice to have somebody who can see our end.

“Hoff can hear the ball and not see me and know it’s a bad punt. He can see through the mechanics. You are a squirrel there, you are chasing after a nut there. They know the body types. It could be something like your wrist, where your wrist wasn’t fully flexed.

“I’m like wrist? How could it be my wrist? But if you think about it, it affects your drop of the ball.”

Right now, the best thing for Colquitt as he prepares for the 2009 season is that he’s healthy. The groin is fine. The sports hernia was taken care of with surgery and his pelvis is back to normal. He’s free and clear to bomb all those hard to handle punts that he wants.

“Going through last season was tough, but I learned a few things,” said Colquitt. “I’m proud of what I got done under difficult circumstances, but I look forward to kicking this year without pain and being even more effective.”

SIGNINGS & MOVEMENT AROUND THE LEAGUE

LIONS – acquired WR Dennis Northcutt from Jaguars for S Gerald Alexander.

PACKERS – signed fourth-round draft choices RB Mike Goodson and FB Tony Fiametta.

TITANS – signed sixth-round draft choice WR Dominique Edison.

SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY …

June 27

Born on June 27, 1940 in Gary, Indiana was G Denny Biodrowski. He spent five seasons with the Chiefs (1963-67), appearing in 30 games over his career.

June 28

Born on June 28, 1964 in Jacksonville was P Bryan Barker. He played four seasons with the Chiefs (1990-93), appearing in 60 games during those four seasons. Barker kicked 272 times for 11,267 yards, a 41.4-yard average.

Born on June 28, 1964 in Greensboro, North Carolina was LB Dino Hackett
(left). Selected in the second-round of the 1986 NFL Draft out of Appalachian State, he spent six seasons with the Chiefs (1986-91). Hackett played in 85 games, with 81 starts with 625 career tackles.


51 Responses to “Colquitt’s Comeback … Weekend Cup O’Chiefs 6-27/28”

  • June 27, 2009  - Scott says:

    Glad Colquitt is healthy again. “Problems with his pelvic region”? That’s never a good thing…football player or not. Hopefully, this year Dustin won’t have to kick nearly as much. He was overworked the last couple of years in Herm’s three-n-out offense.


  • June 27, 2009  - Anonymous says:

    The word offense has 2 meanings. The one that best describes Herm The Man is Offensive


  • June 27, 2009  - findthedr says:

    Bob, before OTA’s finished Coach Haley made the players run a timed ‘sprint’….could you find out who was the fastest player on the team?


  • June 27, 2009  - NJChiefsFan says:

    Bob,

    Thanks for all of the updates. I was wondering if there has been any word on Savage and what you think his chances are. He was new to the KR job last year and still showed some flashes. Will he be on the team opening day?

    Thanks!


  • June 27, 2009  - Merwin says:

    Happy birthday Dino, a very good linebacker on a bunch of not so good teams. Had the Chiefs been better, I’m sure he would have gotten more recognition for being one of the top inside linebackers at the time.


  • June 27, 2009  - What is this, fill in the blank? says:

    “fans will look at Colquitt’s numbers for the 2008 season ““ a ““yard gross average and a ““yard net average ““ and think it was an ordinary to good year”


  • June 27, 2009  - anonymous says:

    Priest Holmes is going to be on “Pro’s vs Joe’s today @ noon, on Spike TV.


  • June 27, 2009  - alex k says:

    Best to remember WHO drafted colquitt, This kid came in because frank gansz pushed and pushed everyone in the scouting department his way. He would NOT be denied Colquitt, and now we have a 10 year punter.

    We all knew he was hurt last year, and now that hes back, he can continue to give the field position edge that maybe…2 or 3 other punters in the NFL can give on a consistant basis.

    Excellent Coffin Corner Punter.


  • June 27, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    A ‘Jerrell Wilson’ KC’s Dustin Colquitt ain’t and never will be, but – he is the best Chiefs punter since Wilson, and perhaps any others beside #44.

    Jerrell ‘Thunderfoot’ Wilson was the best ever- a notch ahead of formers Yale Lary, Sammy Baugh and the completely overhyped Ray Guy.

    ‘check’ will find out this annum what the Chiefs discovered last: “any 22″ does not cut it…this at OL, DL or punter.

    Memo to the golf coach: learn it…live it.

    :-)


  • June 27, 2009  - jimbo says:

    I remember last year Dustin was a co-host of one of the pre-recorded Chiefs Sunday Morning pre-game shows. I can’t remember the name. The show where one of the live audience members won a bucket of chicken. Anyhow, in observing and listening to him, he never complained or said a word about his injury. He was always jovial, upbeat and of good demeaner.
    In my book, he is a class act & a very good example for all. If I was to seek an autograph from a Chiefs player, he would be on top of my list. Speaking of top…I hope to see him on top of his game this year.


  • June 27, 2009  - jimbo says:

    I have to agree with Rin. Jerrel Wilson was a standout punter. Simply the best in Chiefs history & arguably the best in NFL history. He was very good at kicking the ball in a tight spiral, thus plenty of hang time & a very high percentage of fair catches by the opposing team.
    Anybody want to check that stat? If there is stats on such, it would be interesting to find out which punter did have the highest percentage of opponents fair catches?


  • June 27, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Some still say former Raider Ray Guy was the best ever…current Raider Shane Lechler is considered the best punter today – some will claim SL is the best ever – on stat alone would appear legitimate argument.

    As with all comparisons though one must look at the big picture encompasses every/all aspects… stat alone be imminent as well passe with each new seasons wane afore the next new.

    As with the game itself too (variously,) aspects are different today than were they yester.

    One thing that the typical fan will grasp onto is just ‘stats’ – while an indicator, not sacrosanct.

    That MLB’r Barry Bonds needed 837 ‘more’ at bats to merely tie Babe Ruth at 714 home runs, speaks to the fallacy of ‘more’ equating best or better – in and of itself; that said Same be mosT often cited And mosT convenient measure.

    If we do that then Emmitt Smith must be the best runner ever because he has ‘more’ rushing yards than any other… Rin wouldn’t place him in even the top 5, for various reasons.

    Brett Favre has the most TD passes…he’s not in my top 5 as a QB & as befits the ‘more’ argument has also thrown ‘more’ INTS than any player ever.

    The best pass rusher ever isn’t even a part of the discussion based on stats – David ‘Deacon’ Jones (nor is his near peer, Rich Jackson.)

    Rule changes and non-consistent stat attribution are among the culprits; advancements in training, technique and medicinal assists (PEDs) are among the rationale regards punting too.

    Shy having a punter every undertake their knack under ideal & exactingly similar circumstances – which is impossible – we’ve not an exact science so much as an opine nee an art form – eye of the beholder the final arbiter, apologies to stats.

    Here are select punters and their gross averages, career followed by best season -

    *GUY 42.4 / 45.3
    #LECHLER 46.8 / 49.1
    *WILSON 43.0 / 45.5
    *BAUGH 45.1 / 51.4
    *SCARPITTO 43.8 / 45.2
    *LARY 44.3 / 48.9
    #STARK 43.4 / 45.9
    #ROBY 43.3 / 45.7
    #LANDETA 43.3 / 44.8
    #FEAGLES 41.6 / 44.3

    Five random guys from yesteryear*, five of more recent vintage#.

    So who was best? Lechler? Baugh? Neither?

    What of KC’s Jerrel Wilson, who led the league in punting four times? As such, Jerrel holds the NFL record according to the KC Chiefs media guide yet they are WRONG – Sammy Baugh led the league FIVE times.

    Still, Jerrel made the Pro Bowl only 3 times and a Ray Guy led the NFL only three times…yet he’s considered the best by and made 7 Pro Bowls.

    Lechler has made the Pro Bowl four times and has led the league in punting NFL times.

    Baugh (who also played QB and DB) made the Pro Bowl 6 times.

    Lary made the Pro Bowl 9 times…yet usually goes unmentioned in great punter discussions.

    Scarpitto led the league one year and made one Pro Bowl – that he played in high altitude DEN leaves him out of most discussions.

    All the other punters too have their adherents… so we arrive at consensus, none.

    And what of ‘net’ punting average: the stat that minus return yards/touchbacks etc., measures the overall success of a punter?

    Detailed research of such aspects as punt return yards, tds returned against punter, fair catches as well other aspects, sheds more light punting. Always however, what is not factored on the face of it: quality ‘team’ coverage, punt protection, opposition to include caliber of returner faced, etc. So the plot thickens.

    In the final analysis and on the face of it (‘it’ being preference / ranking of punters) the ‘eyes’ have it – as in the beholders thereof.

    What if the ‘yesteryear’ punters had the benefits the modern era has given players, in terms of the aforementioned training, technique, and medicinal assists football as other sports?

    And yet, the best of yesteryear is still as good or better than todays’ “bigger, stronger, faster” players.

    Sammy Baugh’s 1940 51.5 punting average leaves a Lechler’s best of 49.1 in 2007 in the dust.

    As Rin has said afore “bigger, stronger & faster” players today are no better – or even as good as yeteryears same, in many cases.

    Too, a Lechler hasn’t played as many years as the other ‘greats’, and as such his leg will start to tell the tale of his decline starting about ‘now’ – he will finish his career as did the others, on his ‘last leg’ as it were – if he continues on as they did.

    So always a myriad of factors is in play – for my $, heart and eyes this fan, Jerrel Wilson remains the best…ever.

    Followed by Baugh, Lary, Guy and then (as of now) a Lechler. Dustin Colquitt? He has the talent to be mentioned among the best – if his performance can match the modern day player media ‘overhype’.

    :-)


  • June 27, 2009  - Tim Geary says:

    I think Colquitt is done. His body obviously can’t handle it. We better start looking for another punter.


  • June 27, 2009  - BinSC says:

    Actually agree with that theme on punters. Stats have always been overrated. What about a punter that kicks to a short field more often and pins the opponent inside the 10? His average goes down, but he helped his team more. Those that consistently lead in average also would seem to have a worse offense, leaving him plenty of field to work with. Wilson was gem at the coffin corner and was a player, not just a punter.


  • June 27, 2009  - The Truth Is The Truth says:

    Rin Tin Tin is Jason Whitlock.

    Notice how he never denies it?

    Because he can’t. Prove it, Whitlock Tin Tin. You can’t. Because its the truth.

    And coming up, a post that claims to be me that is not. Goodnight.


  • June 27, 2009  - colby says:

    Rin is not Whitlock people! Whitlock (controversial he may be) actually has solid writing skills. Something the aforementioned canine completely and utterly lacks.

    Colquitt is the best punter in the league right now so long as he’s healthy. Returners have a horrible time just trying to cleanly catch his punts much less return them. Hope he’s healthy this year, we really need him.


  • June 27, 2009  - Clark Hunt says:

    June 27, 2009 – Clark Hunt says:
    Reporter: Why did you fire Herm Edwards?

    Clark Hunt: Because he lost 14 game last season and let the team down by not keeping them in shape.

    Reporter: Has there every been a Coach with the Chiefs that has had this poor of a season before?

    Clark Hunt: Never

    Reporter: So are you saying that Herm Edwards lost more games in one season than any other coach in Chiefs history?

    Clark Hunt: Yes

    Reporter: But Herm was a nice Guy and all the players loved him.

    Clark Hunt: Sorry.. nice guy dont make good NFL coachs. I bet I can fine a golf coach off the street that can win more games than Herm did.


  • June 27, 2009  - Clark Hunt says:

    I’m really Colby but also post under Clark Hunt, Scott, anonymous, The Truth Is The Truth and yes Rin Tin Tin as well several other fake names.

    Yes I have an identity crisis.

    I’m jealous of Rin basically because he’s able to write so eloquently and persuasively whereas I am illiterate and a total boob.

    I loved Herm but since Rin does too I must act as if I didn’t like Herm. Forgive me I beg of you.


  • June 27, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Cue several more ‘fake’ Rin tributes via another Elton John paraphrase – “Green eyes … (all the many) fake Rin’s got (HUGE)…green eyes.”

    heh heh heh

    :-)


  • June 27, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Tim Geary

    You may be right about Dustin Colquitt, only time will tell. At mimimum tho, he is certainly not in Lechler’s class as a punter. The Raiders whup the Chiefs like a step-child on this one…

    :-)


  • June 28, 2009  - Harold C. says:

    I see things are turning toward the wacko side in the postings around here. What a bunch of characters.

    I’m glad Colquitt is healthy again. Every little bit helps.

    And now….a little tip I’d like to offer up:
    If you keep your posts to less than 500,000 words then a lot more people are likely to read it all the way to the end instead of skipping it entirely. (yes I exaggerated….just a little)


  • June 28, 2009  - Scott says:

    Harold C. says:

    “I see things are turning toward the wacko side in the postings around here. What a bunch of characters.”

    Yeah, a “bunch of characters” alright. Mostly courtesy of one person, though. That’s what I think.

    Comparing Colquitt to any of those guys really isn’t fair. He’s very early into his career, and has a long way to go. Only time will tell if he’ll be considered one of the all-time greats. My biggest hope is that he doesn’t set some kind of record for “most attempts”…’cause he’s sure had WAY too many so far.


  • June 28, 2009  - Scott says:

    Good read, findthedr.

    With quotes like these:

    “I feel like I’ve left each team better than when I started. I feel like I’ve helped a lot of players.”

    “I believe I’ve made it better for the next guy.”

    I think Herm has become delusional. Can he REALLY believe that he left the Chiefs a better team than when he got here? I can only imagine that two people on Earth believe that…Herm and Rin. “Helped a lot of players” do what, exactly? Know what a crappy Head Coach looks like, maybe? And of course he “made it better for the next guy”. Because after winning six games in two years…ANYONE could improve on that. Herm didn’t hold his players accountable…and he doesn’t hold himself accountable, either.

    I agree with your assessment 100%, findthedr…what an idiot.


  • June 28, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Harold C. said

    “I see things are turning toward the wacko side in the postings around here. What a bunch of characters.”

    - yes, Rin Tin Tin has (literally) a cast of thousands following Him around on this site – imitating him in name though not (obviously) ability narrative any… in fact, parlance be known as ‘try & deflect attention’ those very same who rail against the brilliant takes Rin ‘are’ in fact the same who use His name to try and sully Him…they fail miserably of course.

    Bob G knows ‘exactly’ what is going on here and that Rin remains whilst the wailers continue to wail speaks to whom be legit and who be naught.

    It’s going to be a great 2009 of blogging ahead for Rin Tin Tin…enjoy!

    Now them where were we? Oh yes, the poor man’s Lechler, Dustin.

    “I’m glad Colquitt is healthy again. Every little bit helps.”

    - yes, and when your best player on the team is the punter – a step down from whence the TE was your best – “little” be operative two-syllable dance partner “helps.”

    “And now….a little tip I’d like to offer up”

    - no sorry, Rin never accepts advice from bookies or day traders…only kudos from His faithful Rin Tin Tinners Fan Club!

    :-)


  • June 28, 2009  - Anonymous says:

    To Dog why don’t you take your 20yr plan to some other city. Bob is not going to stop his old boss from ruining his blog > Its Bobs pay back . Yes its a great way to get back at the Chiefs -Hunt – Fans – News people for C.P.s perceived treatment by same . When you I hope are left alone on this sight to rail. I for one well feel bad for Bob but well laugh at you Carl. Enjoy your time for now !!!


  • June 28, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Such paranoia…

    :-)


  • June 28, 2009  - Anonymous says:

    To Dog what other person besides Peterson – Edwards would have a problem with the statement from the new coach > about any 22 off the street ?? The players- fans- news people knew that what coach said ( Was Right ). That’s why they have had 99% pertasapation in this off season . Yes they have brought in old vets to help > SO you could have to . The owner said he wanted to see improvement as the season went on Did He Carl ??? To me you give yourself a way with your post . Since Herm has said many times he doesn’t no how to use a computer that leaves you.Plus you insight into the inner circle of the Chiefs is beyond just a fan. You could be a great source for us fans if you would just be a fan > not a ass.


  • June 28, 2009  - anonymous says:

    Poser “A”nonymous,

    If your referring to me, I am offended that you would mistake my informative, insightful and intelligent post with that of a schizoid, old recluse, that even his name is second fiddle to the original, “Braveheart”.

    I wouldn’t give him the sweat off my cods, if he were dieing of thirst! He’s a F’n retard! DO NOT MISTAKE me for him ever again!


  • June 28, 2009  - Anonymous says:

    It doesn’t look like Hunt has money problems spending 56 million of his own money on the stadium that he doesn’t own . The salary of the Chiefs may reflect that the G.M. was conservative or was good at getting the most out of a contract . That said we would have been much higher on that scale if Allen had signed but atlas he didn’t like the G.M. as you recall. With any 22 off the street the wages reflect that for the Chiefs .Nice try Rin !!!


  • June 28, 2009  - Anonymous says:

    By putting do not mistake me again in bold face supposed to make me quake in fear ?? At-last no” we all have our opinion as you should no> on here all day long . How does it taste .


  • June 28, 2009  - findthedr says:

    Chiefs are cheap, no doubt about it. I’m convinced that some of the extra cap savings are directly funding the stadium improvements…which is a wise investment since it should lead to increased revenue in the future.

    Dont forget that out of the $25 million in funds the local gov gave the chiefs to bring training camp back home, $10 million goes to the local hosting college while the chiefs keep a cool $15 million. Some use of economic development funds.

    Inspite of this cheapness, the team is finally making an improvement from the years of ineptness under Herm and Carl.

    Did you know that Herm still lives in Kansas city, and likely will for the next 2yrs? What a failure.


  • June 28, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Thanks for the great link/story on Herm Edwards – loved it! Some great quotes from the referenced interview. The gist –

    In eight years as an NFL coach Edwards took four teams to the playoffs. He is the Jets second all- time winningest playoff coach, and was the first coach in Kansas City to take his team to playoffs in his first year as a coach.

    - just like Rin has said many times afore!

    heh heh heh

    And via Herm’s own quotes -

    “I feel like I’ve left each team better than when I started. I’ve helped a lot of players.”

    - exactly so!

    “We lost seven games by seven points or less last year, Edwards said. “Why? We had no experience. We had to do it with 20 rookies.”

    - yes! Great coaching job on your part Herm!

    “And we got better. I believe I’ve made it better for the next guy.”

    - without question you did Herm! If ‘check’ does not take ‘your’ Chiefs to the playoffs and win at least 12 games, he is an utter failure… he will be.

    :-)


  • June 28, 2009  - Niblick says:

    Rin

    I like your optimism. You’ve gone from 0-16 to a minimum of 11 wins for the Chiefs next year. I’ll take those 11 wins you’re predicting. I knew you would come around eventually.


  • June 28, 2009  - findthedr says:

    anyone else here realize that they can pretty much skip any comment with a smiley in it?

    it must be the idiot stamp in this thread.


  • June 28, 2009  - findthedr says:

    :-)


  • June 28, 2009  - md554chiefs says:

    Hey Rin. I have a question and I am not trying to be flippant. Why do call Haley & Pioli “Search and Check?”


  • June 28, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    md554chiefs implores Rin

    “Hey Rin”

    - yes, what is it now needy thee?

    “I have a question and I am not trying to be flippant”

    - just churlish; regardless, you were unsuccessful…

    “Why do call Haley & Pioli “Search and Check?”

    - multiples apply:

    a) it pleases me
    b) it’s apropos
    c) Frick & Frack was already taken

    :-)


  • June 28, 2009  - Mark says:

    Why do you guys complain about it ruining Bob’s site, and then engage it? Ignore it, as many of us have done since it exposed itself as not a Chief Fan, but as an irrational Herm Edwards groupie.
    Thanks for that article. It shows the enormous ego Herm has, and likely is why he is such an utter failure as a Head Coach. The inability to change from his archaic, ridiculous ideas about football, because of his stubborness, and unrealistic view of what he brings to a Football team. He leave the Jets after a 4 win season, and us after a 2 win season, and actually thinks he left them better????? The new Coach has to clean up his mess, as Mangini did there, and Haley is doing here. He’s clearly delusional. I hope the Chargers someday hire the boob.


  • June 28, 2009  - findthedr says:

    good advice Mark. I too hope that Edwards re-emerges as a coach in the AFC West…though McDaniels and Norv seem to be doing just fine torpedoing their respective teams.


  • June 28, 2009  - colby says:

    Herm year one: 9-7
    Herm year two: 4-12
    Herm year three: 2-14

    The more Vermeil players he lost/alienated and the more garbage players he brought in, the worse we got. Yeah Herm, we’re sure better than we were when you got here. Not only can the man not coach, he can’t count. And whose idea was it to field 20 rookies? He acts like he’s a victim. If I ever come face to face with Herm, I’d refuse to shake his hand. Prior to his run here, Bill Romanowski and PacMan were the only two on that list.


  • June 28, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Mark said

    “The new Coach has to clean up his mess, as Mangini did there”

    - Mangini: fired by NY.

    “and Haley is”

    - going to make a mess in KC; ‘check’: fired by KC…check.

    :-)


  • June 28, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    colby says

    “The more Vermeil players he lost/alienated and the more garbage players he brought in, the worse we got.”

    - Herm – the only Head Coach in franchise history to lead KC to the playoffs in his very 1st season – the same team Vermeil couldn’t lead out of it’s own way the year afore- and the same guy couldn’t take KC anywhere but ‘home for the holidays’ four years out of his five here…that Weepy Dick.

    Oh, the same thing Herm did in NY- took Al Groh’s playoff absent Jets to the playoffs – 3 years out of his 5 there…that Herm.

    Yup…heh heh heh

    “Yeah Herm, we’re sure better than we were when you got here. Not only can the man not coach, he can’t count.”

    - $4 million from the Chiefs, several more from ESPN…his numerics seem to be working fabulously!

    “If I ever come face to face with Herm, I’d refuse to shake his hand.use to shake his hand.”

    - Herm doesn’t ever make it down to shanty town, so no worries…

    :-)


  • June 29, 2009  - colby says:

    Thanks for playing Rin. Next time, try to make a decent argument when you attack my posts. What a pathetic effort. Just because your mind is old and slowly rotting away doesn’t mean that we’ll take it easy on you.


  • June 29, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    And when you have them, you know you ‘really’ hhave them… heh heh heh

    Every W in 2009 in the Herm Edwards column every L under the ‘search’ & ‘check’ “count the days until their firing” watch…

    :-)


  • July 1, 2009  - Justin Foote says:

    Rin finally said something funny…..Does anyone know what it is? Are you ready, here I go……. Weepy Dick!!


  • July 1, 2009  - Justin Foote says:

    Me? I just exist Foote in mouth.




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