Chiefs Stay Active Sifting Through Free Agency

As the Chiefs go into the first weekend of free agency in the NFL for the 2012 season, they still have some work to do, players to talk to and hopefully some more money to spend in the second wave of free agents.

Catching up on some of the details:

A Brady Sequel, And We Don’t Mean Tom? reported Friday evening that QB Brady Quinn (left) would be stopping by the Chiefs for a visit. Could this possibly be the competition that GM Scott Pioli was promising to bring in to go against Matt Cassel?

The 27-year old Quinn will be going into his sixth NFL season this fall. It’s been three years since he played in a regular season game. In two years with the Broncos he’s not gotten on the field. His only 14 games and 12 starts came with the Cleveland Browns, the team that drafted him in the first round back in the 2007 NFL Draft. The head coach of the Browns at the time was Romeo Crennel.

In those 14 games, Quinn has thrown 10 TD passes against 9 interceptions, with a 52.1 completion percentage and a 66.8 passer rating.

The last time Brady Quinn started a game was December 20, 2009 at Arrowhead Stadium, when he helped the Browns to a 41-34 victory over the Chiefs. That day Quinn hit 10 of 17 passes for 66 yards and 2 INTs.

What’s Up With Right Tackle Eric Winston?

We know Winston was at the Chiefs on Friday. We know that they took him to lunch at Jack Stack, because Winston later tweeted on the event, providing a Twitter thumbs up for the food.

But apparently he left town Friday night to make his previously scheduled visit to Baltimore.

That’s too bad for the Chiefs, because getting Winston wrapped up and in the right tackle spot would have wrapped up a very good week for Pioli and his crew. Instead, they still have a major hole to fill on that right side.

Tolbert Was Here, And Gone

After signing Peyton Hillis, the Chiefs still wanted to talk with bowling ball RB Michael Tolbert. They did, as he visited them on Thursday.

But he was back talking to the Chargers on Friday, and apparently they are passing on him as well, so maybe the Chiefs offer doesn’t look so bad now.

Pretty Impressive Deal For Brandon Carr In Dallas

Here are the numbers on CB Brandon Carr’s deal with the Cowboys. It’s a lot of money, but he’s a lot of player. There will be some pressure on him to play up to the number, something he’s never had to do before.

The deal was 5 years, $50.1 million. It breaks down this way:

  • Signing bonus – $10 million.
  • Base salary 2012 – $1.2 million.
  • Base salary 2013 – $14.3 million.
  • Base salary 2014 – $7.5 million.
  • Base salary 2015 – $8 million.
  • Base salary 2016 – $9.1 million.

Of that $50.1 million, there is $25.5 million guaranteed, all in the first two seasons.

And What Of Orton’s Deal?

QB Kyle Orton signed a 3-year deal with the Cowboys for a total of $10.5 million.

Orton received a $5 million signing bonus and then he’ll get in base salaries in the next three years $900,000, $1.35 million and $3.25 million.

The Boss Was In The House!

No, not Springsteen. The Chiefs newest Boss is TE Kevin Boss, who signed a 3-year, $9 million contract Friday morning.

The former Giants and Raiders TE is looking forward to working with returning starter Tony Moeaki.

“I’m excited to be here with Tony,” Boss told the Kansas City media. “I think it’s going to be fun to play with him. You’ve seen the success the Patriots have had with a couple of good tight ends and I think it’s something we can do here.”

Boss said he was impressed looking at the roster of his new team: “The talent here is amazing. It’s young talent, so that’s something that we’ve got to look forward to in the future and a lot of years to continue to build this team.”

33 Responses to “Chiefs Stay Active Sifting Through Free Agency”

  • March 17, 2012  - milkman says:

    Very disappointed Winston left without a signed contract. From all reports, this is the right tackle we’ve been missing for several years. At least Pioli seems to be trying to add some talented players to the Chiefs roster. Looks like pick #11 has a good chance of being an offensive lineman.

  • March 17, 2012  - johnfromfairfax says:

    We have to be patient and let things unfold. I think Winston did say he was going to go to Baltimore before signing anything and I’m sure we didn’t overwhelm him with an offer “too good to refuse.” Having said that, I’m not sure what direction we’re looking to go at QB but adding Quinn after Manning snubbed us seems kind of hollow at this point. I’m not sure what he brings to the table after striking out, bouncing around and riding the pine for the length of time he has. I’m sure he’s familiar with the system and terminology Daboll will employ but does anybody think he could lead us to the playoffs and Super Bowl if Cassel goes down with another injury?

  • March 17, 2012  - R W says:

    The Winston adventures? I’ll give Jr.Hunt/Pioli a pass on this for now until we find out what kind of $$ he receives from someone. No need to bust the bank on a position that can most likely be filled in the draft but that’s sort of the idea in free agency/draft strategy. At least the guy came in for a serious looksee, unlike others.

    AND, they have filled holes at RB and TE, for now. The Brady Quinn situation is compellingly interesting to me. Remember a few years back when most everyone thought he would be a sure top 5 pick?

    Maybe he’s been poorly coached or not placed in systems that play to his strengths. Maybe he lacks confidence at the present which could be turned around? Then again, maybe he is what he appears to be, a bust? I think there’s something there and have always thought that, so I hope he gets a (last?) chance to turn around his career in KC.

  • March 17, 2012  - el cid says:

    As an official Pioli disliker, he is involved in free agency like I had hoped to do for the last 2 years, at least he is trying (exception Manning fiasco).

    Winston move would have been nice, not over yet. Quinn not to my likeing but they have to have 3 QBs to survive a year. Not a lot of quality from the off-the-street guys and the draft is wrong for the Chiefs this year, Cassel, Stanzi, and college kid would be a huge mistake if you are planning on a playoff appearance. Still, Quinn has not been hiding under a peach basket, just not much in the way of competition for Cassel (was that not what everyone from Hunt down has been saying “competition”, haven’t they?).

  • March 17, 2012  - R W says:

    Another interesting aside. Romeo was the Cleveland head coach that drafted Quinn in the first place. Quinn then traded for Peyton Hillis who now could be on the same team? Only in the movies or curious reality?

  • March 17, 2012  - txchief says:

    The Chiefs could have Peyton and Brady on the roster at the same time! Quinn would be no worse than a lateral move to replace Orton. The chase for Manning isn’t over, and perhaps Pioli has one of his super secret plans going to lure him to Kansas City. I am, for what it’s worth, losing respect for Manning with the way he is working the situation, throwing for some teams but not others, leaking preferences to the media and running teams up against hard deadlines. It would appear that he is primarily searching for the richest bank to stick-up.

    There are good free agent linemen available, and Marcus McNeill will be in town for a meeting this weekend. Pioli and Hunt may want to see how many beef crown ribs each tackle can eat before making a decision. It’s part of the team physical, you know. I’ll take the hot barbecue sauce with mine.

    Tolbert and Winston could still sign in KC. They may be just making sure they consider all of the options, and the Chiefs have more financial flexibility than most teams to sign them. There will still be plenty of hot free agency action over the next few weeks.

  • March 17, 2012  - Niblick says:

    Winston has not left town. He is still here and his visit to the Rams has been canceled. I’m still optimistic. Garrard is also an option as a backup QB. I’m not exactly high on him but he was a capable starter for several years.

  • March 17, 2012  - johnfromfairfax says:

    Winston is still in KC? Maybe that’s a portent of good news to come. txchief, I’d love to see your scenario play out regarding PM but doubt it. Perhaps more light will be shed on the circus once it gets finalized. In any case, we can still put together a good group to move forward with and draft if we stay active and actually commit to continue letting some of the moths escape from Clark’s wallet.

  • March 17, 2012  - Niblick says:

    If the Chiefs are able to sign Winston they will be fairly close to the cap. They would still have money for draft picks and some lesser free agents. Hunt did spend, but a lot of it came in guaranteed money this year on new contracts for Charles, DJ, and others. We also franchied Bowe and signed Routt. That’s amazing because a few weeks ago they had 62MM in cap space.

  • March 17, 2012  - TimR says:

    Considering the landscape of possible QBs at this point, Quinn would probably not be a bad option. Hope the earlier posts about Winston still being in KC as opposed to Baltimore are right. If we’re going to spend some big dollars in FA this year, the this is the guy to probably do it on. We need 3 new starters on the Oline. Signing him takes care of one of them. We have Hudson. It sets us up to possibly be targeting DeCastro.

  • March 17, 2012  - Niblick says:

    Tim-I would be okay with drafting DeCastro if we sign Winston. However, you can normally find guards later in the draft. They would not be as quite good as him, but I think we have more pressing needs. I would rather draft Poe the NT, if he is available. We still have a weakness there. Some question him and feel if he is just a workout warrior. It all depends on whether we sign Winston. If not, we probably have to go OT.

  • March 17, 2012  - steven smith says:

    If we are able to land Winston I think the 3 opotions would be Poe DeCastro or tradeing down(and possible still landing one of those 2)I think I’m w/ you Nblick. Poe would be the bigger upgrade of the 2. With what he showed at the combine he might be able to play all alnog the line ala Heloti Nagata. i have not read anything about the Chiefs being interested but makeing a play at Aubrayo Franklin might be a solid move as well. just like the Hillis deal sign him to a 1 year deal. he should come cheap because of his lack luster season last year.give him a chance to peove himself and it gives the chiefs another season to see what Powe can do. If Haley were still here i think Poe would be a big mistake but w/ Romeo being a more calming influence and a defensive guy i dont think their is as much risk takeing Poe @11. We shall see

  • March 17, 2012  - steven smith says:

    oh yea even if we are able to sign Winston i’d srill like the Chiefs to look at possibly drafting Zebrie Sanders in round 2. I’m kinda torn between him and possibly Kirk Cousins/Branden Weeden in rd 2 but i think an athletic tackle who could be insurence to albert is more important atm.

  • March 17, 2012  - cychief24 says:

    I agree Manning looks like an attention whore at this point. It will interesting to see who blows all their cap on an old QB with a broken neck.

    I’m not sure what more we could ask for from Pioli/Crennel. To fill the gaping gaps we have will take a lot of cap $. To overspend on one position would leave the other spots to the draft or scrubs.
    That’s why Routt, Hillis, and Boss make sense. Winston would be a great get too. McNeill will probably want the rest of our cap $. Quinn is a viable back up that won’t take much cap $. Everyone said Quinn beat Teeboo out last summer and was battling Orton for starter.

    Isn’t it hilarious to see the Raidas cutting to the bone to pay for their misuse of their cap?

    I was frustrated by the underspending of the last 3 years too. I still think a lot of that was Haley. He was so insecure that he wanted players he could intimidate.
    Bob often writes about the franchise being dysfunctional. With Haley that was clearly true. But his ego is now in Pitt along with his teenager appearance and behavior.
    The Chiefs with Pioli/Crennel are showing all the signs of a team with a plan. To not recognize that is more a reflection on that person than the Chiefs.

  • March 17, 2012  - TimR says:

    Niblick – Yes, I was saying that assuming we signed Winston. If we don’t, then DeCastro maybe not as likely. Remember one thing…our interior trio was manhandled too often because we were old & undersized in 2 of 3 positions rendering our O ineffective. That must be corrected in order for our skill players to have an opportunity. I realize the NT is critical to the 3-4, but we have maintained Powe & Torribio on the squad. Gregg wasn’t that good. We have virtually nobody on the Oline. We’re WAY TOO thin. While I agree one can usually find a OG somewhere else, he may be too good to pass on. Don’t get me wrong. I”m not saying he’s the guy. Just sayin’ our skill players don’t matter a lick with no consistent line play. Don’t forget Hudson is bigger than Weigman, but not big by current NFL standards. Additionally, will Daboll try to migrate to more of a power scheme which calls for a different type of athlete??? Things to ponder…

  • March 17, 2012  - Niblick says:

    Tim-Good points. We definitely need un upgrade over Lilga. Thre’s a guard from Miami that we are supposed to take a look at in free agency. I can’ think of his name. On a different point I even saw a recent mock traft having us take Tannihill. He could be available at eleven. I seriously doubt this as he would be a reach. However, Todd McShay likes him as a potential top ten pick. Boy would that be a shocker for Chiefs fans.

  • March 17, 2012  - el cid says:

    For cy, just what is the Pioli/Crennel plan? For several years we got the blame Carl game, do we really have to now listen to the blame Haley game (with a straight face)?

    tx, see it all now Manning goes to the airport in the city he is currently visiting. Strangely, it is blanketed in fog. He goes out of the terminal and two guys from Sugarcreek gently grab him and but a soiled pillowcase over his head. Then they rush him to a train and it pulls out for KC. But they get off at Columbia because amtrak doesnot stop in KC. They put him on a cattle truck and wisk him off to KC at 65 mph. They dump him in the Argentine district and Pioli makes him an offer he cannot refuse. Yes I can see it all now.

  • March 17, 2012  - cychief24 says:

    CHIEFS SIGN RT WINSTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    SUCK ON THAT Pioli-haters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    (that means you cid)

  • March 17, 2012  - cychief24 says:

    Chiefs sign Brady Quinn! Legit back up QB=check.

  • March 17, 2012  - Niblick says:

    This is a great signing. It’s really the first big name free agent Pioli has signed. Breaston was good, but not of this caliber. I do think Pioli and Hunt should be complimented on this signing. El cid-You said the Chiefs would probably sign one top tier free agent and three 3rd tier free agents. So far you have nailed it. I think we will probably sign a couple of more. Perhaps Quinn, Crotchery, or someone of that caliber.

  • March 17, 2012  - Niblick says:

    I just saw they also signed Quinn today. At least it’s someone to compete with Cassell and perhaps provide some compettion.

  • March 17, 2012  - cychief24 says:

    cid nailed what?!?
    You aren’t calling Kevin Boss 3rd tier are you?
    Hillis was injured most of last year. When healthy he and Charles tore it up in ’10.
    Routt was the raidas #1 CB.
    Only Quinn can be considered “3rd tier.”

    Geez guys! Instead of looking at the glass half empty (or as Bob and cid would call it, broken) let’s see what has happened in less than a week of Free Agency.
    RB=Hillis $3m
    TE=Boss $3m x 3yrs
    Before that Routt CB= $19m over 3yrs.

    Like I said, to not recognize what a home run this off season has been says more about the poster/writer than the Chiefs.

  • March 17, 2012  - ED J says:

    Eric Winston signed and Brady Quinn signed both both good signings. Heard Abrayo Franklin visiting Monday good Job Pioli way to stick it to the haters. Also now it opens it up in draft for us to take guard Decastro from Stanford. We do that this can be top 5 oline in the league. Love it love it.

  • March 17, 2012  - ED J says:

    For those who want us to draft Poe I would caution that pick simply because he’s a combine star who didn’t dominate competition in Conference Usa. He didn’t stand out at all and could be a guy that needs 3-4 yrs to develop. With way fans been treating Tyson don’t think we need go down that road again of drafting a project. Much rather have Decastro. He stood out at Stanford, stood out at the combine, and is projected to be one of best guards to come out in years. That would potentially make Chiefs oline one of best its been since we had Wiegman,Roaf, Waters, and Shields here all at one time. I would love to get back to that dominant oline. Outside of that if we go nose tackle give me Fletcher Cox from Miss State now there’s a guy who stood out in SEC last couple seasons.

  • March 17, 2012  - txchief says:

    A lovely vision, cid. The price of admission the the Manning sweepstakes may be so high that it could set Donkeytown back five or more years. I’d love to see Elway and Bowlen cut their own throats. Saddling the Donkeys with Manning might do more to improve the Chiefs’ playoff chances than actually having him on our team. After signing PM, the puking ponies might only be able to afford players from the local middle school JV team to play with him.

  • March 17, 2012  - R W says:

    Ed…ed….you need a chill pill bro. el cid and me are on the same team if not the same belief/ kool aid, now. can we all take a breath and feel/think about what up here?

  • March 17, 2012  - steven smith says:

    now that the winsron signing has setteled in, i take back a little of what i said on a earlier post. i think i’m on the DeCastro @11 pick for the Chiefs. obviously Cassel needs all the help he can get and maybe if we can keep him upright at the begginning of the season like we seem to do towards the end he can be a top second tier QB.

  • March 17, 2012  - Johnfromwichita says:

    Whew. This is now, as far as I’m concerned, a succesful free agency. Anything more is just gravey. Opens up a tremendous amout of choices for the draft. It really improves my attitude towards the front office. As if they were worried. Good job. Keep it up.

  • March 17, 2012  - Niblick says:

    cy chief-I was just sort of joshing when I said el cid nailed our free agents. Hillis and Boss were both top 100 free agents according to PFT. I guess they are probably more like tier two free agents It’s really just semantics. I loved the signing of Winston, plus Hillis and Boss will provide quality depth. Quinn at least provides us a backup with some experience. If Manning doesn’t sign with Denver, we are probably the favorite for the division.

  • March 17, 2012  - steven smith says:

    All this FA activity kinda makes you wander what the hell was going on the last 2 years??? Was it a Haley thing, Hunt not opening up the wallet, or Pioli seeing that you can’t just build through the draft. Finding quality younger players who are entering FA for the first time is also essintial in building a championship caliber team that can maintain sucess over a period of time. This is how you win the off-season, sure am glad it’s us for a change

  • March 17, 2012  - TimR says:

    Great job to get Winston signed. This was really the linchpin. Our O line is the main problem. Getting the OT was the big thing. The other signings are solid. Quinn is ok considering the environment. Don’t bet on Stanzi not overtaking him though. Quinn is a safety signing. He’s played about as much as Stanzi in the last 12 mos. & Stanzi has a better arm. Amazing what the “heat” on talented people will do when their rep is on the line. These signings really free us up to go any number of directions in the draft. I just hope Winston’s ankle is really repaired…

  • March 17, 2012  - cychief24 says:


    We can’t hear you ;) :) )))

  • March 19, 2012  - spellchecker says:

    I am starting to get excited about the Chiefs.

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