Camp Practice Update 8/1 A.M.

From River Falls, Wisconsin

There were some butterflies for Todd Haley as he led the first training camp practice in his tenure as head coach.

“I forgot to blow the whistle a couple of times,” Haley said. “When you are an assistant, they don’t let you have a whistle. Only the head coach. I missed a couple, I’ve got to

“That’s one (practice) down, one day of semi-controlled chaos.”

Haley was having a little fun with the chaos comment. The workout was very much like any other first-day practice around NFL training camps. The Chiefs were in full pads and they actually had a live hitting session when they worked on goal line offense and defense. Haley liked the way the team practiced.

“We had to get on them a little bit about making sure they get from drill to drill quickly, but otherwise it was a good morning,” Haley said.

The head coach also proved to be intolerant of mental mistakes, as he made both DE Alex Magee and DT Derek  Lokey run 200 yards (up and down the length of the field once) as punishment for jumping offsides in a pass rush-pass protection drill.

There were two apparent injuries during the workout, as ILB Derrick Johnson left with what looked  like a pulled hamstring and G Edwin Harrison went down with an injury to his lower right leg.

There were nine players missing from the workout because they’ve not yet passed the team physical. On the PUP List are RB Kolby Smith, DE Glenn Dorsey and TE Jake O’Connell. Smith is coming off a knee injury and surgery from last season. Dorsey is battling a left shin problem and O’Connell appeared to have a calf injury.

On the NFI List the Chiefs  placed LB Brian Waters, RG Mike Goff, RT Damion McIntosh, DT Ron Edwards, DE Dion Gales and LB Demorrio Williams. Haley would not address the non-practicing players but it’s a good bet those guys  on the NFI are the ones who failed to complete the conditioning test in the required time on Friday moring.

Here’s some highlights from the morning session:

- The Chiefs ran about seven or eight plays in a live goal-line segment. Everybody was allowed to be hit but the quarterback. On the first play, RB Larry Johnson jumped outside and beat LB Zach Thomas to the pylon for a nice touchdown. Later, L.J. got dragged down in the backfield on a run right by DT Derek Lokey, who had a great tackle. RB Jamaal Charles tried the inside and there was great controversy on whether  he crossed the goal line or not. No ruling was ever given, but Charles took several big shots  inside on the play.  The drill ended with QB Tyler Thigpen throwing a TD pass to TE Tony Curtis.

- Rookie free agent LB Jovan Belcher showed up several times with big hits, once in the run-oriented nine-on-seven drill and then again in team work when he hit RB Javarris Williams in the backfield and forced a fumble.

- With Goff, Waters and McIntosh out of the No. 1 offensive line, filling their spots were Herb Taylor at RT, wade Smith at LG and Tavares Washington at RG.

- When D.J. went down, Monty Beisel took his spot with the No. 1 defense.

- Here’s how the No. 1 defense lined up: Alfonso Boone, Tank Tyler and Alex Magee across the front, with Beisel and Zach Thomas at inside linebacker and then Mike Vrabel and Tamba Hali at OLB. The secondary was the Brandons (Flowers and Carr) on the corners with Jarrad Page and Bernard Pollard at the safety spots.

- Rookie WR Quinten Lawrence flashed his speed during the one-on-ones when he blew past CB Maurice Leggett on a deep post. Leggett is one of the fastest players on the team. QB Matt Cassel’s throw was too long for Lawrence to make the catch.

- Second-year man Barry Richardson worked at both right tackle and left guard during the pass protection drill. When he moved inside he didn’t do a bad job against Magee.

- In a pass rush drill OLB Mike Vrabel ran past Richardson at RT two of the three times he rushed. Richardson snuffed  his inside move on the third snap.

- Also in the pass rush drill, OLB Turk McBride and LT Branden Albert locked up in a good battle, with McBride getting a slight edge on this day.

- After practice there were 12 different players catching kicks off the jugs machine as the Chiefs continue to search for kick and punt returners. They were: RBs Charles, Williams, Jackie Battle and Dantrell Savage; WRs Lawrence, Terrance Copper, Taurus Johnson and Rodney Wright and DBs Leggett, Donald Washington, Jackie Battle and Londen Fryar.

– The safeties spent extra time after practice working with assistant coach Ronnie Bradford. It appeared they were working on keys to help them with that fine line between run support and dropping in coverage.

- K Ryan Succop hit six of eight kicks, missing wide left and one was blocked. It was impossible to tell  the distance, but he made his last kick, which appeared to be close to 50 yards and did it in very windy conditions.

NOTES: Weather conditions were perfect for a football practice, with cloudy skies, a nice breeze and temperatures in the lower 60s, with no humidity … three  of the four Hunt siblings attended the practice: Lamar Jr., Clark and Daniel … a big contingent of national media was there,  including Alex Marvez from, Don Banks of and Nancy Gay of … after practice the running backs signed  autographs for the crowd.

37 Responses to “Camp Practice Update 8/1 A.M.”

  • August 1, 2009  - findthedr says:

    thanks for the updates Mr. Gretz!

  • August 1, 2009  - Matt in OMA says:


    How many of these nine just failed the physical conditioning test?

  • August 1, 2009  - none says:

    “When D.J. went down, Monty Beisel took his spot”

    what happened to DJ?

  • August 1, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Real Rin ® :cool: daddy-o sez

    All the hype nee flowery prose :roll: s now put on display appears as if that “any 22″ wagon he hitched himself to has lost a wheel or several.

    The worst of said being his own ‘the few, the proud…’the any 22′s now become NFIs nee MIAs.

    Now standing on the sideline (somewhere) “any 22r” #1 (or 94 as you prefer), Tyson Jackson.

    Closer to home/nearer the stretcher, #79 – Goff; with him #62 – Dion ‘Minus his Belmonts’ Gales – and #45 Jake O’Connell… nursing his calf.

    What is this a football field or a barnyard?

    A med-evac or a team?

    Substance or empty winded promises?

    :roll: “Any 22 will do…” & (various folk said) “things are going to be different this year.”




  • August 1, 2009  - alex k says:

    Great updates

    Love that Belcher may step up.

    Like that Lawrence is showing his speed, I do question Cassel on that long ball, most of the time with moss deep he would overthrow not underthrow.

    I love the intensity that seems to come from all this competition

    Big fan of making a player run for going offsides.

    Very exciting time as a fan.

  • August 1, 2009  - alex k says:

    Also, Turk in my opinion, will surprise people, and take Hali’s spot…

    Nice to see that our kicker can hit one from 50 with wind, Arrowhead has that annoying wind that keeps you guessing.

  • August 1, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Real Rin ® :cool: daddy-o sez, response to -

    “The drill ended with QB Tyler Thigpen throwing a TD pass to TE Tony Curtis.”

    - Tony has been ‘the man’ since he starred in “The Great Houdini” back in ’53 … Tyler “The Little Big Man From Coastal Carolina” or, that new name “TD TYLER!” has been the man at QB in Kaycee since last season and willst continue to be in ’09, because (see below)…

    “QB Matt Cassel’s throw was too long for Lawrence to make the catch.”

    - o u c h … ‘accuracy’ being that his greatest attribute so the beguiled nee gullible say, nay; take a seat end o’ the bench, mutt = OVERHYPED

    “Rookie WR Quinten Lawrence flashed his speed during the one-on-ones when he blew past CB Maurice Leggett on a deep post.”

    - alas, Lawrence will be but the fastes player on the Chiefs practice squad come September 2009…

    “K Ryan Succop hit six of eight kicks, missing wide left and one was blocked.”

    - 75% is NOT good enough Succop (gesundheit)… Calling Connor Barth, calling Connor Barth!


  • August 1, 2009  - True Red & Gold says:

    1st practice, full contact, and two down. At this rate they will not get out of camp with a 45 man team let alone “the right 53″

    I agree with making a boy in high school run two hundred yards for making a mistake. Not sure it will achieve the same effect with a paid professional man. I wander how far Haley runs every time he forgets to blow his whistle.

  • August 1, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    :roll: has to make an ‘appointment’ to run his own missed whistle laps…

    Real Rin ® :cool: daddy-o

  • August 1, 2009  - alex k says:

    rin, its crazy windy, one was blocked that CAN be the line….

    With Lawrence, figures a positive note, makes you lead to a negative outlook….Ill continue to say, he WILL make this team, and you will be wrong on that one…

    Connor Barth? He was 8/10, most were short, and he was the WORST in Kickoffs among starting Kickers.

    oh and Rin, Accuracy? Cassel was 9th in the league according to football outsiders in putting the ball right on the money to where the reciever can make the catch, and do something with it, or just put the ball where the defender cant get it..

    OH right, and Thigpen? was 28th in that catagory.

    Anyway, not like you change your mind, you still think Herm is the coach.

  • August 1, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Real Rin ® :cool: daddy-o sez

    Now you see, THIS is just what Rin (as well Bob G in his ‘Birthday Love’ blog) was talking about mi gente – – as Bob said “you can enjoy or argue with.”


    Thanks for the affirmation, G-Man!

    “Thanks for your suggestions”

    - not a problem… Rin is on the watch daily ensuring the blog be safe for all opinions be they for or against, honest, dis or speculative; for sans the censorship some are wont to embrace, being a blogger DOES NOT require one to be a Chiefs cheerleader as some are hard pressed (constipated) to accept… but they will, sooner or later.

    Thank you and ‘your quite welcome’, each & everyone of you.

    “some of them may already be bearing fruit.”

    - some already have: fruits like Scott, alex k, Josh, SG, anonymous as well Anonymous (and the multiple rest in all their username disguises) blog here daily, despite not having a clue about the game of football. This is what makes America great… not them, just the ‘game’; oh, and as well the ‘game’ of football.

    “All are appreciated.”

    - and some more than others, plethora of usernames theirs tantamount to stuffing the ballot box/dead folk voting, ad nauseam… yet e’en so, STILL they cannot top or silence Rin!

    We will make this work … it’s too much fun to let it die.”

    - it is a real gut buster to be sure! Rin is looking forward to this season and each season thereaft to continue enjoying said blog!


    (PS) Here’s Rin as alex k et al (cue John Conlee: ‘these rose-colored glasses that were all lookin’ thru’) would want him to be:

    “Man isn’t this great! All that is the Chiefs are the best in football! Pioli is the best, Haley is the best, Cassell is the best, Larry Johnson pass protects best, Herm was a pest but oh I digress – Chiefs 2009 = Superbowl!”

    Where’s the vomit bag… hurl

  • August 1, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Real Rin ® :cool: daddy-o sez -

    Psst! Hey, alex k . . . this “Q flub’s” for you

    You said -

    “With Lawrence, figures a positive note, makes you lead to a negative outlook.”

    - River Falls website: “Cornerback Travis Daniels showed good coverage on rookie wide receiver Quinten Lawrence as the ball sailed through the rookie’s hands.” BOI-IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!

    That River Falls reporter ought to be fired for his (dis)honesty, or at least banned/prevented from blogging…huh.

    “Ill continue to say, he WILL make this team, and you will be wrong on that one.”

    - alex k, are you Kreskin?


  • August 1, 2009  - Stiv says:

    alex k, do us all a favor and quit feeding the damned troll, mmmmkay?

  • August 1, 2009  - alex k says:

    Yeah, I know, Ill stop feeding him. I think saying that the rest of us don’t know football was when it became clear that this isnt about the chiefs for him…and thats fine…time to ignore it

    Hope some of these guys get off the injured/unable to perform list, as quickly as possible…6 DL is a scary number.

  • August 1, 2009  - Mark says:

    Great posts Rin as per the usual. Keep up the great blogging.

  • August 1, 2009  - Michael Price says:

    The “any 22 players” reference seems to get mischaracterized quite a bit around here. Reminds me of the misquoted “5 year plan” attributed to our old friend, CP.

    The ‘any 22 players’ statement attributed to Haley has never been confirmed. It was put out by one columnist that PARAPHRASED an anonymous source. The columnist wrote:

    “According to the source, Waters flew to Kansas City specifically to meet with Haley and Pioli and hear their plan for the direction of the organization. Pioli declined to meet with Waters, saying they had nothing to discuss, the source said. And Haley began his hallway conversation with Waters by proclaiming that 22 players off the street could win two games, the source said.”

    Even this unconfirmed paraphrase doesn’t equate to “any 22 will do” as some here continue to misstate.

  • August 1, 2009  - Mark says:


  • August 1, 2009  - anonymous says:

    Michael Price,

    Save your key strokes, the one making that claim is the epitome of “Mr. Irrelevant”!

  • August 1, 2009  - JP says:

    AAAAhhhhhh it’s good to be talking about pads and hitting and whistles ‘n’ stuff. At last more to discuss than Mike “dog lover” Vick, Brett “do me a Favre and retire”, and Perplexico Buress.

  • August 1, 2009  - Michael Price says:


    Just putting the truth out there so others know.

  • August 1, 2009  - Michael Price says:

    Mark = Rin Tin Tin = intellectually & emotionally stuck at 12 years old

  • August 1, 2009  - Kevin B says:

    Give Rin a break. After all even though I oft’ disagree with his opinions, and nee’ am ambiguous oft’ when thee Rin doth speak, he is fairly interesting. I could spend ten minutes trying to figure his statements out, and what they mean, but more power to him. Keep on Daddy-o
    No fake green eyes here.

  • August 1, 2009  - Michael Price says:

    I have my own problems, namely I am intellectually & emotionally vacant.

  • August 1, 2009  - Confused says:

    It would be cool to be able to read about things related to the Chiefs. Instead we get lifeless people fussing about everything else but. Too bad most web stuff goes that way………..

  • August 1, 2009  - Michael Price says:

    I’m a disgrace.

  • August 1, 2009  - ED says:

    I like to say one thing about people questioning Haley moves about making guys run when they make mistakes or his emphasis on conditioning by not letting guys practice when they make mistakes. SHUT UP!!! Last year when guys were getting hurt for not practing enough most of you same people critcize Herm Edwards for not pushing guys hard enough. You same fans blamed Herm’s lack of conditioning of the team for the reason this team had all these injuries the last 2 years.

    Either way Haley didn’t get to where he’s at not knowing what he’s doing. I’m preety sure he’s taking alot of what he’s learned from Parcells and Whisenhunt and applying those same methods in Chiefs practices. WE’ve watch the worst couple of years of football in this franchises history so let/s not question anyone whether its Haley or Pioli until we see these guys results 2 years down the road.

    Now off of that I’m glad to hear things going good at camp thanks for the update Bob. Turk being impressive against Albert stood out to me in this article. Hope Turk cna keep it up and translate that to regular season. Go Chiefs

  • August 1, 2009  - alex k says:

    Agreed, hes in this business for a reason, hes young, he just went to the super bowl…

    and honestly, I love what hes doing, hold them accountable for their weight and actions, make them run if they go offsides, GOOD, a team that finally wont get tired and make dumb mistakes? GREAT!

  • August 1, 2009  - Scott says:

    I have always been a very big athletic supporter as most of you know but I’m now starting to lose faith in Haley and his approach and am starting to chafe. He’s green/acting like a real rookie.

    Player injuries, holdouts, failure to run as well as Haley expects. I hate what he’s doing to this team and organization along with Pioli.

    Both of them are in way over their collective heads it appears.


  • August 1, 2009  - SG says:

    Trolls happen…dont quit your day job.

    When people stop worrying about the troll’s diet and the comments made about them – they can proceed to succeed in building up this site.

    Dont-cha-know that the quickest way someone proves you’re winning an argument is to slander you personally?

  • August 2, 2009  - Michael Price says:

    Wow, posting under my name? You stay classy, Rin Tin.

  • August 2, 2009  - Michael Price says:

    Wow, posting under my name? You stay classy, SG.

  • August 2, 2009  - alex k says:

    Wow, posting under my name? You stay classy, Michael.

  • August 2, 2009  - Michael Price says:

    For the record, I’ve never posted under another name. And I only accused rin-tinny of posting with my name. The post directed at SG wasn’t me. I’m guessing that the last alex k post was tinny also. Sad, pathetic little doggie.

  • August 2, 2009  - Michael Price says:

    But then again I am a liar. I actually post under several user names because I’m a real loser.

  • August 3, 2009  - SG says:

    “The post directed at SG wasn’t me.”

    Yeah there’s a few people that a man I’ve heard on the radio named Buddy Diliberto would refer to as “squirrels” who post on here using others’ names. No sweat – keep writing with enough substance to delineate yourself from the squirrels when you post and you won’t ever get mistaken for one.

    I think there’s a guy named anonymous who thought I was Rin too – but I think anon. has hopefully evolved past that erroneous perception.

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