Comments on: Bye Weekend Thoughts … Friday Cup O’Chiefs http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html Dedicated to providing the best coverage of the Kansas City Chiefs. News, commentary, reports, and exclusive inside information - daily! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:49:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: larry http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31215 larry Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:14:23 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31215 Great article, keep them coming! Great article, keep them coming!

]]> By: CK- 30 yrs STH http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31214 CK- 30 yrs STH Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:51:10 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31214 el cid- I do remember Super Fan Ed Beeler. My brother and I still believe he helped get rid of Steadman/Schaaf. he helped lead a boycott at Arrowhead and Lamar reacted when less than 5,000 bodies attended Gansz' last 2 home games. It's been so long now, but we see some of the same things from this team as we did Gansz' teams. Just total disarray. I do think Pioli has the credentials to build the Chiefs. But I think his teenager behaving HC was a mistake. he is embarrassing, and I just don't believe Lamar would put up with his act. There are just too many proven winning HC's out there for 2010 to keep this "kid." You all can hate Carl if you want, but I remember what it was like before he brought Marty here.....it was like now. Like I tell my son that has been going to games since he was 3 (20 yrs) welcome to the 80's son. el cid-
I do remember Super Fan Ed Beeler. My brother and I still believe he helped get rid of Steadman/Schaaf. he helped lead a boycott at Arrowhead and Lamar reacted when less than 5,000 bodies attended Gansz’ last 2 home games. It’s been so long now, but we see some of the same things from this team as we did Gansz’ teams. Just total disarray.
I do think Pioli has the credentials to build the Chiefs. But I think his teenager behaving HC was a mistake. he is embarrassing, and I just don’t believe Lamar would put up with his act.
There are just too many proven winning HC’s out there for 2010 to keep this “kid.”
You all can hate Carl if you want, but I remember what it was like before he brought Marty here…..it was like now. Like I tell my son that has been going to games since he was 3 (20 yrs) welcome to the 80′s son.

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31204 Jim Lloyd+ Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:09:50 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31204 Would have been very poor day to pratice . What I like about Todd is that when he decides to do what it takes to get the team in shape , he does it . Also does not pass on players that look good and does not give up on what he think's is wright . Would have been very poor day to pratice .
What I like about Todd is that when he decides to do what it takes to get the team in shape , he does it .
Also does not pass on players that look good and does not give up on what he think’s is wright .

]]> By: el cid http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31203 el cid Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:43:53 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31203 It was "necessary". What the Chiefs had did not what Haley felt he needed. It was for starters and depth. Both may be gone by training camp next year but no real choice. My only fear is they will cost us one of the 2nd round picks, MIA had us over a barrel. It was “necessary”. What the Chiefs had did not what Haley felt he needed. It was for starters and depth. Both may be gone by training camp next year but no real choice. My only fear is they will cost us one of the 2nd round picks, MIA had us over a barrel.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31202 gorillafan Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:33:42 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31202 Do we consider that a bad trade since they are contributing and one started? or do we just not have good talent, thats why they have playing time, and they both are average at best and the trade a bust? Do we consider that a bad trade since they are contributing and one started? or do we just not have good talent, thats why they have playing time, and they both are average at best and the trade a bust?

]]> By: el cid http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31201 el cid Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:21:57 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31201 Less the pick for 2 MIA OL. Less the pick for 2 MIA OL.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31200 gorillafan Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:19:54 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31200 atleast we will have more draft picks next year ---gonzo and thigpin trades atleast we will have more draft picks next year —gonzo and thigpin trades

]]> By: el cid http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31199 el cid Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:11:42 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31199 BT the next draft should spell the success or failure of this rebuild. For some reason we have chosen to ignor the last draft, carl's people still in place, Pioli was not allowed to speak apparently. At some point in time a team has to hit on one draft, 3-4 starters at key positions. Pretty sure Jackson and Magee are misses, can play but impact, I think not.. So 2010 should show you just what the PLAN is. Add free agency and the Chiefs will set the tone for the rest of the Pioli/Haley tenure. BT the next draft should spell the success or failure of this rebuild. For some reason we have chosen to ignor the last draft, carl’s people still in place, Pioli was not allowed to speak apparently. At some point in time a team has to hit on one draft, 3-4 starters at key positions. Pretty sure Jackson and Magee are misses, can play but impact, I think not.. So 2010 should show you just what the PLAN is. Add free agency and the Chiefs will set the tone for the rest of the Pioli/Haley tenure.

]]> By: BT http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31198 BT Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:42:58 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31198 Bob, I have to disagree. To say it is simply an issue of "get it" or don't is irrelevant. This team stinks. And I can say team because they all do it together. Did you miss Vrabels bone head play on the goal line? It's not an issue of "team". Nor any other psycho-babble explanation. This team just plain stinks. And that includes the coaching staff. The only hopeful scenario is a Jimmy Johnson type turnaround next year. But Todd isn't Jimmy. And this team doesn't have one of the later stars that Dallas had. Let alone an over priced running back to trade. Todd said he could take 11 guys off the street and win two games. Well he better hurry or he will prove himself wrong. I endorsed him when we were searching for a coach. But I was wrong. I may be wrong now. But all I see is a long, l ... o ... n ... g learning period. And it may be even longer if we endure more mediocre drafts. I see him getting the boot next year. After a 3-13 season this year and a 5-11 next year. Bob, I have to disagree. To say it is simply an issue of “get it” or don’t is irrelevant. This team stinks. And I can say team because they all do it together. Did you miss Vrabels bone head play on the goal line? It’s not an issue of “team”. Nor any other psycho-babble explanation. This team just plain stinks. And that includes the coaching staff. The only hopeful scenario is a Jimmy Johnson type turnaround next year. But Todd isn’t Jimmy. And this team doesn’t have one of the later stars that Dallas had. Let alone an over priced running back to trade.

Todd said he could take 11 guys off the street and win two games. Well he better hurry or he will prove himself wrong. I endorsed him when we were searching for a coach. But I was wrong. I may be wrong now. But all I see is a long, l … o … n … g learning period.

And it may be even longer if we endure more mediocre drafts. I see him getting the boot next year. After a 3-13 season this year and a 5-11 next year.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31197 gorillafan Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:34:12 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31197 uh im freaking tired of "next year" too. but I have to be optimistic and hope. thats why i see myself as a dedicated fan. no saying your not, its just how i look at it for myself. imo opinion we were a good team not too long ago, so i still have hope. now, if herm was here again this year and was in place for a few more years to come, id be saying something totally opposite. To haley and scott, this is new to them, they havent suffered for years here like we have, so imo our pantic button was pressed 2 years ago, while they are dont even know where the button is located. uh im freaking tired of “next year” too. but I have to be optimistic and hope. thats why i see myself as a dedicated fan. no saying your not, its just how i look at it for myself.

imo opinion we were a good team not too long ago, so i still have hope. now, if herm was here again this year and was in place for a few more years to come, id be saying something totally opposite.

To haley and scott, this is new to them, they havent suffered for years here like we have, so imo our pantic button was pressed 2 years ago, while they are dont even know where the button is located.

]]> By: el cid http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31196 el cid Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:13:14 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31196 I just do not buy any more of "wait till next year" from anyone. I will, of course, live with what we have. No real choice anyway. Does anyone remember "superfan" Ed Beeler on radio? Fans would call up and say we need to "cheer" the team on to victory. It was hogwash then and I expect so see its return now, still hogwash. I expect to be entertained by pro football. I do not need the Chiefs to make my life of value. Until they change I do not expect much from them. And, frankly, I am not sure I have enough years left to wait on the Chiefs. I am pretty sure none of us have enough year left to wait for the Royals to change. I just do not buy any more of “wait till next year” from anyone. I will, of course, live with what we have. No real choice anyway. Does anyone remember “superfan” Ed Beeler on radio? Fans would call up and say we need to “cheer” the team on to victory. It was hogwash then and I expect so see its return now, still hogwash. I expect to be entertained by pro football. I do not need the Chiefs to make my life of value. Until they change I do not expect much from them. And, frankly, I am not sure I have enough years left to wait on the Chiefs. I am pretty sure none of us have enough year left to wait for the Royals to change.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31195 gorillafan Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:09:10 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31195 i agree jim, i think we will come around i agree jim, i think we will come around

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31194 gorillafan Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:56:58 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31194 yeah i agree with ya on it doesnt take much to be a step better than herm. imo haley did prove himself as a coordinator atleast, so for now im okay with that i do wish that we had cower or even shanahan, but there are no shure things, hell id take marty. I think they will give clancy another year to prove himself withthe chiefs, if our d doesnt get better, maybe sooner. but still i cant judge the coaches right now, its too early in there era for me to critisize yeah i agree with ya on it doesnt take much to be a step better than herm. imo haley did prove himself as a coordinator atleast, so for now im okay with that

i do wish that we had cower or even shanahan, but there are no shure things, hell id take marty. I think they will give clancy another year to prove himself withthe chiefs, if our d doesnt get better, maybe sooner. but still i cant judge the coaches right now, its too early in there era for me to critisize

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31193 Jim Lloyd+ Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:43:27 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31193 By him being gone may have just fixed a lot . By him being gone may have just fixed a lot .

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31192 Jim Lloyd+ Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:41:32 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31192 I feel good when watching the Chief's on defence. But yo know what's going to happen when they get the ball . Three and ------------> Handing the ball to one guy on every ,-----BLANK I feel good when watching the Chief’s on defence.
But yo know what’s going to happen when they get the ball .

Three and ————>

Handing the ball to one guy on every ,—–BLANK

]]> By: el cid http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31191 el cid Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:36:40 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31191 Herm should never have been hired in the first place and dropped after his second year as he had no history that would suggest he was qualified to rebuild a team (I see some similarities with Haley, even if a hot HC candidate why would anyone think he could handle a rebuild). For you list: 1. maybe, maybe not. jury still out, he maybe so damaged after this year, that he never reaches the "franchise" tag. 2, Gosh, I hope not. 3. Who? Dorsey and Hali, perhaps, 2 out of 53. Should take about 15 years at that rate. 4. I guess, still waiting to lose game. 5. Moral wins? no stats on that. 6. Yeah, against a real powerhouse?? 7. What? I buy Haley is a step above Herm but who would not have been? Not satisfying to be just a step ahead of herm. I want more, a whole lot more. Herm should never have been hired in the first place and dropped after his second year as he had no history that would suggest he was qualified to rebuild a team (I see some similarities with Haley, even if a hot HC candidate why would anyone think he could handle a rebuild).

For you list:
1. maybe, maybe not. jury still out, he maybe so damaged after this year, that he never reaches the “franchise” tag.
2, Gosh, I hope not.
3. Who? Dorsey and Hali, perhaps, 2 out of 53. Should take about 15 years at that rate.
4. I guess, still waiting to lose game.
5. Moral wins? no stats on that.
6. Yeah, against a real powerhouse??
7. What?

I buy Haley is a step above Herm but who would not have been? Not satisfying to be just a step ahead of herm. I want more, a whole lot more.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31189 gorillafan Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:23:16 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31189 el cid, I agree that I had higher hopes before the season than I do now for the rest of the season, but imo we cant judge against them right now. Now if it was 2-3rd years, yeah I would have a completely different outlook, but tryin to overhaul the entire chiefs organization is not going to happen over night. All im saying is herm had his 3 years, we need to do the same for them. I think they WILL build the ground for us took be good. I think heart and determination that haley and scott are pushing for will go along way. the smoke id say is, 1. franchise qb in place 2. most coaches in place 3. players starting to "get it" 4. players playing hard 5 near wins 6 first win 7 ect now i know that isnt alot, but we will get there, no flame but getting close. Atleast we can maybe go up and not like the titans this year after last year they had, ouch.. least haley doesnt use excuses like "were a young team" ya know. I guess im bias, I hated the hire of herm the worm, I didnt think he was the answer, atleast I have belief that haley can be el cid,
I agree that I had higher hopes before the season than I do now for the rest of the season, but imo we cant judge against them right now. Now if it was 2-3rd years, yeah I would have a completely different outlook, but tryin to overhaul the entire chiefs organization is not going to happen over night.
All im saying is herm had his 3 years, we need to do the same for them. I think they WILL build the ground for us took be good. I think heart and determination that haley and scott are pushing for will go along way.

the smoke id say is,
1. franchise qb in place
2. most coaches in place
3. players starting to “get it”
4. players playing hard
5 near wins
6 first win
7 ect

now i know that isnt alot, but we will get there, no flame but getting close. Atleast we can maybe go up and not like the titans this year after last year they had, ouch..

least haley doesnt use excuses like “were a young team” ya know. I guess im bias, I hated the hire of herm the worm, I didnt think he was the answer, atleast I have belief that haley can be

]]> By: el cid http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31187 el cid Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:07:50 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31187 Just wondering, gorillafan, if I buy into what you say in 7 whole games, what is better than before the 7 games. At some point in time Haley has to move in a positive manner. Where is the smoke? I do not see anything that has not been pounded to death. No positive movement, yet. The only thing positive is "wait for the future" and did we not have enough of that pie-in-the-sky with carl for the last 10 years. Just wondering, gorillafan, if I buy into what you say in 7 whole games, what is better than before the 7 games. At some point in time Haley has to move in a positive manner. Where is the smoke? I do not see anything that has not been pounded to death. No positive movement, yet. The only thing positive is “wait for the future” and did we not have enough of that pie-in-the-sky with carl for the last 10 years.

]]> By: jimbo http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31186 jimbo Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:56:35 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31186 I see Todd Haley changing the approach to each remaining game this year. I sense that the play calling will be a little more liberal & a little less safe. As many of us have felt so far, this is a year of tryouts & player evaluation. This is the first year of building a foundation for the future Pioli & Haley era. Bob is "right on" the talent element & in many positions the lack of talent. The Chiefs at some point this year willturn the tide & give us some satisfaction of what is to come. Go Chiefs I see Todd Haley changing the approach to each remaining game this year. I sense that the play calling will be a little more liberal & a little less safe. As many of us have felt so far, this is a year of tryouts & player evaluation. This is the first year of building a foundation for the future Pioli & Haley era.
Bob is “right on” the talent element & in many positions the lack of talent. The Chiefs at some point this year willturn the tide & give us some satisfaction of what is to come.
Go Chiefs

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31184 Jim Lloyd+ Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:49:12 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31184 Answer's ? Maybe-some Brodie Croyle ? Is it possible Too much LJ drowning play's and throwing away first down's ? Answer’s ?

Maybe-some Brodie Croyle ?
Is it possible Too much LJ drowning play’s and
throwing away first down’s ?

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31183 gorillafan Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:44:46 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31183 el cid says, Haley’s new mentality has not done much good for the first 7 games. Your right, it has only been 7 games!! not 3 years. I dont understand how people are dogging on this guy already. I like his attitude, hes a fighter. You cant try and get a bad team better or even pumped up without trying to light the fire first. Haleys trying to get our wet wooded team started, there is smoke, and before long, more players will "get it" there will be fire!! el cid says,
Haley’s new mentality has not done much good for the first 7 games.

Your right, it has only been 7 games!! not 3 years.

I dont understand how people are dogging on this guy already. I like his attitude, hes a fighter. You cant try and get a bad team better or even pumped up without trying to light the fire first.

Haleys trying to get our wet wooded team started, there is smoke, and before long, more players will “get it” there will be fire!!

]]> By: el cid http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31182 el cid Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:33:10 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31182 Nice thought ED, I feel the Chiefs are in a downward spiral and the bottom is still coming. To win 5-6 games would mean Haley comment "take 22 guys off the street and win 2 " would be the truth. How many guys were off the streets and now play for the Chiefs? If 2010 is uncapped, figure Snyder and Jerry Jones to go nuts with money to stockpile big players, does anyone here think Clark Hunt will spend like that, no way? Then the Chiefs build thru the draft and just how good did they do in 09? Do you seriously feel Jackson, Magee, and the rest are "building blocks"? Want to be more than 20 players away from being a team and try to fix it totally thru the draft and college free agency? Make a couple of mistakes and waste an entire year. I an scared to death that if Pioli/Haley do it their way it may be 2015 just to put a team together. Nice thought ED, I feel the Chiefs are in a downward spiral and the bottom is still coming. To win 5-6 games would mean Haley comment “take 22 guys off the street and win 2 ” would be the truth. How many guys were off the streets and now play for the Chiefs? If 2010 is uncapped, figure Snyder and Jerry Jones to go nuts with money to stockpile big players, does anyone here think Clark Hunt will spend like that, no way? Then the Chiefs build thru the draft and just how good did they do in 09? Do you seriously feel Jackson, Magee, and the rest are “building blocks”? Want to be more than 20 players away from being a team and try to fix it totally thru the draft and college free agency? Make a couple of mistakes and waste an entire year.

I an scared to death that if Pioli/Haley do it their way it may be 2015 just to put a team together.

]]> By: ED http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31181 ED Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:20:37 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31181 Great points Bob. Bottom line thE Chiefs need more talent among the o-line, wideout position, and a another pass rushing OLB. Until then this want be a playoff team. But we can salvage 5 or 6 more wins out of the season with the talnet that is on the team. That would be a positive step going into next season. Great points Bob. Bottom line thE Chiefs need more talent among the o-line, wideout position, and a another pass rushing OLB. Until then this want be a playoff team. But we can salvage 5 or 6 more wins out of the season with the talnet that is on the team. That would be a positive step going into next season.

]]> By: el cid http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31180 el cid Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:19:20 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31180 Well to date few of the Chiefs players get it. I do not know how Haley shows them how to or if they will buy into "get it" anyway. Unfortunately the losing habit seems really ingrained in this team. They do not quit but they expect something bad to happen and to lose. And short of 45 new players, losing just becomes the way of life in KC. Haley's new mentality has not done much good for the first 7 games. Well to date few of the Chiefs players get it. I do not know how Haley shows them how to or if they will buy into “get it” anyway. Unfortunately the losing habit seems really ingrained in this team. They do not quit but they expect something bad to happen and to lose. And short of 45 new players, losing just becomes the way of life in KC. Haley’s new mentality has not done much good for the first 7 games.

]]> By: He who bleeds red & gold http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31179 He who bleeds red & gold Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:55:52 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31179 Hey Chewbone, I found the definition of it, straight form coach Haley's mouth. It comes from an article off of kcchiefs.com. Here's the link -http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/10/28/chiefs_insider_blog_whats_next/ Scroll down it's buried. Here's the highlights: We all have an idea of what “it” means, but it’s never fully been defined by the Chiefs head coach. So, naturally, the follow-up question became - what’s your definition of “it”? ”(It means) he’s shown that he’s mentally tough, that he can persevere and some bad things can happen to him that he can overcome and not go into the tank so to speak,” Haley explained. “Those are all good signs on top of the fact that I think he’s pretty talented.“ There you have it, the mystery is solved. Forty-nine words all wrapped up into one. Pretty efficient if you ask me. Hopefully more of the Chiefs will start getting "it" after the bye! Hey Chewbone, I found the definition of it, straight form coach Haley’s mouth. It comes from an article off of kcchiefs.com. Here’s the link -http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/10/28/chiefs_insider_blog_whats_next/ Scroll down it’s buried. Here’s the highlights:

We all have an idea of what “it” means, but it’s never fully been defined by the Chiefs head coach. So, naturally, the follow-up question became – what’s your definition of “it”?

”(It means) he’s shown that he’s mentally tough, that he can persevere and some bad things can happen to him that he can overcome and not go into the tank so to speak,” Haley explained. “Those are all good signs on top of the fact that I think he’s pretty talented.“

There you have it, the mystery is solved. Forty-nine words all wrapped up into one. Pretty efficient if you ask me.

Hopefully more of the Chiefs will start getting “it” after the bye!

]]> By: ThunderChief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31178 ThunderChief Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:47:24 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31178 Judging the tenor of this article, I have two main thoughts: 1) The race doesn't always go to the strongest or the swiftest, but that's the way to bet. This speaks to the overall talent issue and I agree with Bob's assessment there. 2) As to the 'team' aspect or the 'all for one, one for all' bit, the Chiefs really need a vocal leader or two among the roster players, a guy who holds others accountable, gets in their face when needed and leads by example. A Ray Lewis type of guy. From what I've observed, Vrabel probably comes as close to anyone for this role but he needs more support and help. Still, a long way to go in terms of getting the talent to a level of having the expectation going from hopeful to confident of winning. A work in progress. Judging the tenor of this article, I have two main thoughts:

1) The race doesn’t always go to the strongest or the swiftest, but that’s the way to bet. This speaks to the overall talent issue and I agree with Bob’s assessment there.

2) As to the ‘team’ aspect or the ‘all for one, one for all’ bit, the Chiefs really need a vocal leader or two among the roster players, a guy who holds others accountable, gets in their face when needed and leads by example. A Ray Lewis type of guy.

From what I’ve observed, Vrabel probably comes as close to anyone for this role but he needs more support and help. Still, a long way to go in terms of getting the talent to a level of having the expectation going from hopeful to confident of winning. A work in progress.

]]> By: Harold C. http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31177 Harold C. Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:45:07 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31177 Nice Bob...I agree. Being someone with a 1 year old daughter who is just learning to walk I like the analogy you used with the Chiefs still crawling right now and once in a while taking a few steps before falling down again. That describes the situation perfectly. As far as "Getting it" goes....I take that to mean that players that don't "Get it" are players still playing and doing things in their own way with thier own attitude instead of the attitude and style that the Chiefs coaches are trying to teach. Am I anywhere close? Nice Bob…I agree. Being someone with a 1 year old daughter who is just learning to walk I like the analogy you used with the Chiefs still crawling right now and once in a while taking a few steps before falling down again. That describes the situation perfectly. As far as “Getting it” goes….I take that to mean that players that don’t “Get it” are players still playing and doing things in their own way with thier own attitude instead of the attitude and style that the Chiefs coaches are trying to teach. Am I anywhere close?

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31176 Jim Lloyd+ Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:41:26 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31176 Chew--- From the side line you are proably right on all five question's and a lot of the same goes on every where on the other 31 team's . I say put Cottam and Pope in the back field every play and hand off to these giant's or get them to rush the deff. lanes that open or pick up outside blitzing . ANSWERS?------------that might help Chew—
From the side line you are proably right on all five question’s and a lot of the same goes on every where on the other 31 team’s .
I say put Cottam and Pope in the back field every play and hand off to these giant’s or get them to rush the deff. lanes that open or pick up outside blitzing .

ANSWERS?————that might help

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31174 Jim Lloyd+ Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:28:04 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31174 There are time's when you are a safty or a corner and you want to go for an interception you NEED a back up or your going to lose a thochdown for lack of coverage . Your blocking on the left side and the blocking center or gard is not picking up someone blitzing , what do you DO ? You are in the middle of the Alantic on a boat that is going down , strapped to the rail , that's called a "SINKING FEELING" . Then it's to late to "Get it" ! Fix that sinking boat before you get on it ? There are time’s when you are a safty or a corner and you want to go for an interception you NEED a back up or your going to lose a thochdown for lack of coverage .
Your blocking on the left side and the blocking center or gard is not picking up someone blitzing , what do you DO ?
You are in the middle of the Alantic on a boat that is going down , strapped to the rail , that’s called a “SINKING FEELING” . Then it’s to late to “Get it” !
Fix that sinking boat before you get on it ?

]]> By: chewbone http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/bye-weekend-thoughts-%e2%80%a6-friday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html#comment-31173 chewbone Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:48:07 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11387#comment-31173 Nice article Bob and since your much more in the know than us fans help us with something. What the heck does "Get It" mean? Is it that certain players aren't "working hard"? Is it that certain players "refuse to run the plays that are called? Is it that they don't "suck up to Haley"? Is it that they would rather "listen to their Ipod" than Haley and his coaches? Is it that "they don't really like football they just like the money"? Now I am sure we probably have at least one play for each of the above, but in your professional opinion and since the Chiefs have been your job for 30 some years how about describing what "get It" means in an upcoming article. Keep up the good work Nice article Bob and since your much more in the know than us fans help us with something. What the heck does “Get It” mean?

Is it that certain players aren’t “working hard”?
Is it that certain players “refuse to run the plays that are called?
Is it that they don’t “suck up to Haley”?
Is it that they would rather “listen to their Ipod” than Haley and his coaches?
Is it that “they don’t really like football they just like the money”?

Now I am sure we probably have at least one play for each of the above, but in your professional opinion and since the Chiefs have been your job for 30 some years how about describing what “get It” means in an upcoming article.

Keep up the good work

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