“AnonymousRintintin”

- yes, what is it now Shoeshine boy?

“Well”

- go ahead, you’ve already embarrassed yourself completely with your utter lack of the requiste esprit, any insight & too no deodorant.

“I did have to go to work”

- Ronald was busy getting a new tint of orange to his hair & you were the closest thing?

“my money tree died.”

- so they laid you off…who will ask the patrons regards super-sizing?

“I looke over all of the active rosters and…”

- yes? ((drum roll – here’s his big moment, nee his crash back down to earth fromst that tricky first step up from the curb to whence he’s been kicked ad nauseam ad infinitum by ‘anonymous’ – hold your breath everyone…heh heh heh.))

“as of my last post”

- promises promises…

“the average is 248.52″

- and NOT 273 nor the more accurate even 284 lbs. that the AVERAGE offensive lineman of 43 years ago was, this case the KC Chiefs. Maybe you could try another year…go ahead, I’ll wait.

“the listing for the NFC are a little different.”

- both NFL & AFC spell “Y-O-U W-E-R-E W-R-O-N-G” but humor us, and do tell us your results again, won’t you?

“260.5 average.”

- exactly…and affirming you were, are & shall e’er remain…wrong. Do you also do windows and dust?

“Which means that yes today’s FB could have played OL in the yesteryears”

- Cue Three Dog Night: ‘LIAR! LIAR-LIAR!”

Your original statement of believed fact (yours alone) was, & I quote (this is SO much fun! heh heh heh)

It was nee you said: “The Average OL then could now be an average sized FB.” So as I proved and you affirmed, today’s average FB could NOT have played on the offensive line back ‘then’, using my sample KC Chiefs and yours wherever you pulled it out of (it’s surely already overly crowded in their what with your head, shoulders, etc. in the way.) Too, I suspect your weighty numbers- which fail regardless – might need a certified public accountant to verify them at any as the provider be you…your smell precedes you.

Now back to our final tally then & now, average size ‘then’ 273 conservatively & 284 accurately – your average ‘now’ be short for both the AFC 249 and NFC 261, that’s with I anonymous rounding up to try & assist you…no luck.

So then:

273 > 261 … 273 > 249
284 > 261 … 284 > 249

((RIM SHOT!/CYMBAL CRASH! BIG FINISH – BY ME!))

“that you”

- tis, yo’ daddy is here.

“dwell”

- don’t dwell on defeat – you should be used to it by now.

“in”

- sane? Probably. but do the best you can despite yourself.

“So”

- apathy becomes you…not.

“put that in your pipe and smoke it”

- I don’t smoke…I destroy lies.

“instead of the”

- truth which you fail to do the same to.

“ditch weed”

- horse feathers…

“you smoke”

- no, we already covered…try paying attention snapperhead. We suggest you avail yourself of a ‘Miracle Ear’, orbital spectacles to match the oned you make of yourself daily- or is that the monkey I anonymous make of you daily, and…do try me again, won’t you?

Here’s some salve & burn ointment…heh heh heh

The pleaded statement of fact – yours – was “The Average OL then could now be an average sized FB.”

Still waiting for your proof…you cite only two players, an exception of 310 which be unique as OT Sherman Plunkett of the 60’s NY Jets; listed (conservatively) at 322 but usually more in the neighborhood of 350-355, 354 he told me himself on one occasion whence we spoke.

Best you can muster is a 270 average to ‘actual’ 273 mine. Too, whereas anonymous be using sample size of but 5, you use one of only 2…my sample size trumps yours – as I you, daily. Upshot? You have proven yourself wrong 7 anonymous correct. Thank you.

Some players are bumped ‘up’ by teams on rosters and others ‘down.’Players are super-sized as was attendance once upon a time, for appearance sake nee impact.

As accuracy and integrity be the Hallmark my tack for purposes disclosure I use weights that as one can see do not match the listed roster givens as by virtue of anonymous own relationship with the Chiefs circa the mid to late 1960’s I happen to know what the weights “actually” were thence; I know this because of my father’s friendship with Hank Stram/others as well my own with said.

The upshot is clear … inference yours that the players back ‘then’ were smaller/so much so that a FB today would be (you infer) heavier & better by implication is found to be unsubstantiated.

OT Sherman Plunkett was but one player example I mentioned earlier…there are many others. KC DT Ed Lothamer listed 245 as a rookie in ‘64, 1966 – 67 listed 265/270. Actual weight his thence? 297, give or take as with any player.

Naturally, weights can go up or down – in small increments usually- but the gist is clear: your original plea is been proven wrong whether by an ounce, a bushel or a ton.

Otis Taylor was ‘listed’ variously from 6′2- 6′4, 211 to 220 lbs. Most usually, he was listed 6′3 215. Otis told me he used to play at 227 lbs.

Sherrill Headrick listed as much as 240…he told me he played at 215-220.

DE/LB Bobby Bell was usually listed at 6′4 228 – fact is he played at as low a weight as 210 lbs. KR/WR Noland ‘Supergnat’ Smith ‘listed’ 5′8 163 lbs. as a rookie. That he was actually 5′6 1/4 154 lbs. or so was the non fiction fact.

Baseball: pitchers are throwing NO harder today than they were in the early 1900’s – there are MORE players who can throw harder just as there are more players PLAYING as befits a far larger POPULATION – but evolution is no guarantee or has no mandate to ‘improve things’ – of this I wrote as “Progress to Decline” in college thesis mine of some (inaudible) years ago. Ted Kaczynski was not far from the truth…though his methods were madness at worst, misdirected at best.

Baseball – The hardest throwers today throw no harder than those of some 100 years ago… the evidence is available for anyone who wants to do some research…don’t ask me to do the homework for you, you need the stimulation of something other than the contemplation your navel fuzz.

But a few reknowned 100 mph fastball types (both with steroids & without) of more recent vintage:

Ryan…Wohlers…Zumaya…bigger, stronger AND faster? No.

Little 165/170 lb. P Pedro Martinez was in the vicinity when he was younger. Fastest I know of was Steve Dalkowski who threw 105-115 mph late 1950’s/mid 60’s (Ted Williams said “he’s the fastest I’ve ever seen”…Earl Weaver stated :he was A LOT FASTER than Nolan Ryan.”

By now whether football, baseball or other, via evolution one would believe 125-150 even should be close to ‘average’ if we accept the later day world & players are getting weightier/better all the time, which you fixate on in your plea. Not by any consensus or by fallen records across the board be it so. Physics and the like in play the human arm can only accomplish so much regardless of era, afore it snaps/falls off, for example.

Bigger, stronger, faster teams do NOT always win, as Superbowls I-III affirmed … many of the most hallowed records in sport still stand despite the heavier and by inference yours better players. Why?If bigger nee heavier is better, Jamarcus Riussell and Jared Lorenzen wouldst be HOF NFL QBs…any day now, probably.

Some 44 years after he departed no one has topped Jim Brown’s per yard carry average for the large sample size nee carries and years he played.

Joe DiMaggio’s 56 straight and Ted Williams .400+ average still dominate.

Wilt Chamberlain’s 100 pts. in a game be still sacrosanct.

Little 6′0 190 (or low as 178 Superbowl IV) Len Dawson still holds the pro football record most consecutive seasons leading in completion %, 6. That was as KC Chiefs fans know almost 40 years ago…so much for all the over-hyped Montana’s, Elway’s, Marino’s, Mannings & the like who even with the advent rules changes to boost offenses and limit defenses, fail to match Lenny D. All heavier, bigger, stronger, yadda, yadda, yadda.

So much for the better, larger, modern players.

Yesteryear rules, as ever willst!

Herm Edwards is MY man!

- no surprise that…

“The players of yesterday when everything was not yet diluted were smaller.”

- and yet the bigger, stronger, faster teams ALL three of them LOST the 1st, 2nd & 3rd Superbowls – twas not until Superbowl IV that the ‘bigger, stronger, faster’ team – the Chiefs – won.

“The Average OL then could now be an average sized FB.”

- your lack of edification proceeds you – suggest you avail yourself of copious doses fiber. The KC Chiefs 1966 offensive line – specific & averaged, listed, actual, career high:

LT Tyrer 292 listed, 295 actually/316 highest wt.
LG Budde 260 listed, 273 actually/279 highest wt.
C Frazier 245 listed, 247 actually/250 highest wt.
RG Merz 267 listed, 269 actually/ 271 highest wt.
RT Hill 265 listed, 279 actually/302 highest wt.

Average of 272.6 lbs actual, 283.6 career high. Now, name for us ‘ALL’ those average sized NFL fullbacks circa 2009…or even one that weighs 273 or 284. (Of note, 1966 Chiefs FB McClinton listed 227, actual weight 232, highest 236.)

That was 43 years ago…Pinocchio.

“But I shall not try to bout with you on the field of statistics of yesteryear.”

- discretion yours being the better part of valor as you cower, Bill . . . verily anonymous wouldst mortally wound you, beyond question.

“I do like the points that you raise, it is very hard to understand most of the time though.”

- self-indictment nee grim realization yours…

“I have already cancelled the comedy channel on my dish network.”

- not so much a matter economics yours, more so tis hard to laugh when your spleen be broken…

Rin/anon. why not publish what bs you are putting in the Star. “Chiefs will cut Cassel” With all your knowledge of the game bring it here so we can really laugh at you and not with you.

THE RIGHT 53 2009

Woody Hayes – Vince Lombardi – Norm Van Brocklin – Frank Kush – Bobby Knight – Bill Belichick and lastly, since he’s leastly – Checkpoint hailee.

What can be said about the Junior Mr. Bill that a Cowboy, several Cardinals and immutable testimony the TV camera closeup has not afore assaulted our senses with, nee impinged on our righteous sense good sportsmanship, and heard muttered under off the record breaths?

Just this – sans Checkpoint’s lack of substance whence compared to his aforementioned ’sporting’ forefathers… don’t hold your breath this rank amateur, has neither great taste nor be filling.

His epitaph to read: “yeah baby, you tried…”

#71 Ed Budde – greatest offensive guard in KC Chiefs history, a bit better & longer lasting than Maurice “Mighty Mo” Moorman who in turn, was better than Waters or Shields/anyone else.

So good he was named the AFL Player of the Week – not offensive lineman, player ANY – for his work against the Raiders in a 24-10 beating that was administered by Ed, Dawson, Arbanas & Company.

Lenny threw only a handful of passes that day – naturally, Fred Arbanas latched onto one, Otis Taylor was injured as most all the rest the KC WRs so did not play.

Fred Arbanas and Ed Budde’s blocking helped the Chiefs to almost 300 yards of rushing v “The 11 Angry Men” defense of the Raiders.

Ed Budde: his Hall of Fame ommision be a crime, as the absence a Jim Tyrer and Johnny Robinson, Jerrell Wilson & Otis Taylor, at minimum. All those belong, as too should a Fred Arbanas long afore a gonzalez, the latter who played in the watered down parity era, of rule-aided offenses with QBs wearing pink dresses as Butkus said… rules harsh to defense & bonanza to offenses.

Fred & Ed: simply ‘THE BEST’ in Chiefs history at their positions…you too Leonard, Otis, Jerrell, and Johnny.

This UFL Stuff just doesnt interest me, especially during the NFL season…my idea would be between feb-end of may to take up some time.