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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 05:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could see drafting Matthew Stafford  Or Sam Bradford. and than some where in the 6th or 7th picking up a guy like CHASE HOLBROOK......Look Brodie will not get cut but he will most likely lose his job making him a pretty decent number 2. and that mean Huard or most likely Thigpen will be gone? but i say why not both? Huard is old and can&#039;t move granted he is not bad but go with the youth movement and set your self up like Green Bay. They drafted two Qb&#039;s and they already had a decent one starting. Competition is good and frankly we need it the most at the QB spot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could see drafting Matthew Stafford  Or Sam Bradford. and than some where in the 6th or 7th picking up a guy like CHASE HOLBROOK&#8230;&#8230;Look Brodie will not get cut but he will most likely lose his job making him a pretty decent number 2. and that mean Huard or most likely Thigpen will be gone? but i say why not both? Huard is old and can&#8217;t move granted he is not bad but go with the youth movement and set your self up like Green Bay. They drafted two Qb&#8217;s and they already had a decent one starting. Competition is good and frankly we need it the most at the QB spot</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They need to draft 2 or 3 Qbs,and pray a lot.</description>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that the top priority for evaluating young QBs is how quickly they can read defenses and deliver the ball to the right spot quickly?       I don&#039;t want a guy that can throw it through a wall or 70 yards downfield if he&#039;s weak on those top attributes.   

Too many times, we&#039;ve seen scouts and team officials, including the Chiefs, falling in love with arm strength while winking at the top skills required.      

It&#039;s like coaches getting all wet over 40 times for WRs and overlooking the hands of stone that go with that 4.3 burner.     Maybe Bob can address how to properly test and evaluate the two most important skill sets for QBs somewhere down the line?  

I&#039;d be most interested in reading about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that the top priority for evaluating young QBs is how quickly they can read defenses and deliver the ball to the right spot quickly?       I don&#8217;t want a guy that can throw it through a wall or 70 yards downfield if he&#8217;s weak on those top attributes.   </p>
<p>Too many times, we&#8217;ve seen scouts and team officials, including the Chiefs, falling in love with arm strength while winking at the top skills required.      </p>
<p>It&#8217;s like coaches getting all wet over 40 times for WRs and overlooking the hands of stone that go with that 4.3 burner.     Maybe Bob can address how to properly test and evaluate the two most important skill sets for QBs somewhere down the line?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be most interested in reading about that.</p>
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		<title>By: findthedr</title>
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		<dc:creator>findthedr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just saw this site using IE, and noticed the advertisments for the 1st time. 

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		<title>By: findthedr</title>
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		<dc:creator>findthedr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the completion percentage has its flaws if the Qb is always throwing short high percentage passes (such as to the RBs which are almost like handoffs). Thus completion percentage and playing time should be the most important factors but not the only factors. 

tmessina, 
all those teams you spoke of have rebuilt by various means, but none have done it by rastically going young like the chiefs have...and yes i know gb is the same team age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the completion percentage has its flaws if the Qb is always throwing short high percentage passes (such as to the RBs which are almost like handoffs). Thus completion percentage and playing time should be the most important factors but not the only factors. </p>
<p>tmessina,<br />
all those teams you spoke of have rebuilt by various means, but none have done it by rastically going young like the chiefs have&#8230;and yes i know gb is the same team age.</p>
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		<title>By: tmessina</title>
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		<dc:creator>tmessina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon Are you saying that Green Bay one of the youngest teams and they built by going young and losing all their veterans and losing for several seasons, ever hear of a guy named Farve?  Miami rebuilt in one REPEAT one season and that matches the chiefs way of rebuilding?   Atlanta is rebuilding around a 1st round QB, and the chiefs are rebuilding around a 3rd unhealthy no a 34year old no an exViking with legs no some no name cast off?  I hope you are not matching all that to the chiefs way of rebuilding.

Sorry my point was not clear.  The chiefs cannot rebuild with two different plan.  It cannot be done that way.  I do not want to see 2 to 4 years of rebuilding with only the management of the chiefs &quot;hoping&quot; to get their act together and if they fail to bad for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon Are you saying that Green Bay one of the youngest teams and they built by going young and losing all their veterans and losing for several seasons, ever hear of a guy named Farve?  Miami rebuilt in one REPEAT one season and that matches the chiefs way of rebuilding?   Atlanta is rebuilding around a 1st round QB, and the chiefs are rebuilding around a 3rd unhealthy no a 34year old no an exViking with legs no some no name cast off?  I hope you are not matching all that to the chiefs way of rebuilding.</p>
<p>Sorry my point was not clear.  The chiefs cannot rebuild with two different plan.  It cannot be done that way.  I do not want to see 2 to 4 years of rebuilding with only the management of the chiefs &#8220;hoping&#8221; to get their act together and if they fail to bad for us.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would agree with the completion % thing.  I think accuracy is underrated.  Jaworski (who I think really understands NFL QBs) is ALWAYS talking about this.  The thing is, if it was that easy....draft the guys who have high comp % and who played a lot...you wouldn&#039;t see all the busts you see in first rd QBs. I&#039;m sure all these factors have been looked at in an attempt to predict who will be successful...just not that easy, unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree with the completion % thing.  I think accuracy is underrated.  Jaworski (who I think really understands NFL QBs) is ALWAYS talking about this.  The thing is, if it was that easy&#8230;.draft the guys who have high comp % and who played a lot&#8230;you wouldn&#8217;t see all the busts you see in first rd QBs. I&#8217;m sure all these factors have been looked at in an attempt to predict who will be successful&#8230;just not that easy, unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: Colby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s all really early in the process and I may feel differently later but I like the sound of Chase Holbrook as a mid to late round developmental guy.  Seems like a big guy with lots of athletic talent who may get overlooked on draft day.  Freeman is an exciting local guy.  Something tells me that Harrell may be more than just a system QB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s all really early in the process and I may feel differently later but I like the sound of Chase Holbrook as a mid to late round developmental guy.  Seems like a big guy with lots of athletic talent who may get overlooked on draft day.  Freeman is an exciting local guy.  Something tells me that Harrell may be more than just a system QB.</p>
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		<title>By: findthedr</title>
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		<dc:creator>findthedr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is it just me or is Bob showing a pattern. Most of the Qbs shown in this section are big guys. I know that is the vogue right now because they should have less passes batted down, and are big enough to take hits, but the best qbs over NFL history have actually been 6&#039;2&#039;&#039;-6&#039;3&#039;&#039;. 

I am convinced, the most important factors in evaluating 1st day qbs are completion percentage and length of playing time. Brodie Croyle&#039;s college career completion percentage is almost exactly the same as his career nfl completion percentage...56%

Thats not good enough, and there is really no indication that will improve even if he gets the protection he needs. 

Now go back through and look at the QBs who have had alot of playing time and who&#039;s career completion percentage is over 60%...that is who we should consider drafting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is it just me or is Bob showing a pattern. Most of the Qbs shown in this section are big guys. I know that is the vogue right now because they should have less passes batted down, and are big enough to take hits, but the best qbs over NFL history have actually been 6&#8242;2&#8221;-6&#8242;3&#8221;. </p>
<p>I am convinced, the most important factors in evaluating 1st day qbs are completion percentage and length of playing time. Brodie Croyle&#8217;s college career completion percentage is almost exactly the same as his career nfl completion percentage&#8230;56%</p>
<p>Thats not good enough, and there is really no indication that will improve even if he gets the protection he needs. </p>
<p>Now go back through and look at the QBs who have had alot of playing time and who&#8217;s career completion percentage is over 60%&#8230;that is who we should consider drafting.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnNdallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnNdallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand what Tmess was saying, in fact he must have been typing this at the same time I was posting on &quot;Chiefs Update 10/9&quot; Very much the same thing that Waters and Shields were saying earlier this evening about the situation at 1 Arrowhead Dr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand what Tmess was saying, in fact he must have been typing this at the same time I was posting on &#8220;Chiefs Update 10/9&#8243; Very much the same thing that Waters and Shields were saying earlier this evening about the situation at 1 Arrowhead Dr.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tmessina,

I&#039;m not sure there is any merit to what you say, and frankly I&#039;m not sure exactly what you were saying completely...but if I was Herm and was concerned about my own job security, I would be pushing for a 2-4 year excuse of a plan too.  Not his fault if we keep losing..everyone is young...that would buy him a few more years.

The reality is, that&#039;s completely ridiculous that he wouldn&#039;t want any vets at all.  Ridiculous... see what Green Bay is doing, see what Atlanta is doing, see what freakin&#039; Miami is doing.  They are building, getting better, and getting younger.  There is no reason to completely gut your entire roster and turn the thing into an expansion team...again, just ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tmessina,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure there is any merit to what you say, and frankly I&#8217;m not sure exactly what you were saying completely&#8230;but if I was Herm and was concerned about my own job security, I would be pushing for a 2-4 year excuse of a plan too.  Not his fault if we keep losing..everyone is young&#8230;that would buy him a few more years.</p>
<p>The reality is, that&#8217;s completely ridiculous that he wouldn&#8217;t want any vets at all.  Ridiculous&#8230; see what Green Bay is doing, see what Atlanta is doing, see what freakin&#8217; Miami is doing.  They are building, getting better, and getting younger.  There is no reason to completely gut your entire roster and turn the thing into an expansion team&#8230;again, just ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: tmessina</title>
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		<dc:creator>tmessina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not about QBs, sorry do not care the chiefs do not do QB at all.

Many media commenting on ESPN/NFL reporter Smith who said he has inside sources that management is divided at Arrowhead, Group 1 (oh lets id as a name, say carl) and Group 2 (maybe use herm).  Both agree a rebuild was overdue and both feel the LJ deal was a bad one, not the idea or player but the deal.  &quot;carl&quot; wants rebuild to include selected veterans and try to win during the rebuild.  &quot;herm&quot; wants to gut the entire program, turn into an expansion team for next 2 to 4 years, lose consistantly, and then hopefully win. 

The NFL is big business.  The only way for a real business to be successful is to have ONE plan and everyone works that direction.  This just goes to show how far the chiefs have strayed.  Two plans equals failure, it cannot succeed.  

I do not know how this will play out. But for me and me alone, I will not settle for 2 to 4 YEARS of consistant losing.  That is asking to much.  That is why I doubt the herm group is not the way to go.  If they win, we need to get rid of Tony, Waters, Surtain, and if anybody will take him LJ.  

I remain not totally satisfied with the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not about QBs, sorry do not care the chiefs do not do QB at all.</p>
<p>Many media commenting on ESPN/NFL reporter Smith who said he has inside sources that management is divided at Arrowhead, Group 1 (oh lets id as a name, say carl) and Group 2 (maybe use herm).  Both agree a rebuild was overdue and both feel the LJ deal was a bad one, not the idea or player but the deal.  &#8220;carl&#8221; wants rebuild to include selected veterans and try to win during the rebuild.  &#8220;herm&#8221; wants to gut the entire program, turn into an expansion team for next 2 to 4 years, lose consistantly, and then hopefully win. </p>
<p>The NFL is big business.  The only way for a real business to be successful is to have ONE plan and everyone works that direction.  This just goes to show how far the chiefs have strayed.  Two plans equals failure, it cannot succeed.  </p>
<p>I do not know how this will play out. But for me and me alone, I will not settle for 2 to 4 YEARS of consistant losing.  That is asking to much.  That is why I doubt the herm group is not the way to go.  If they win, we need to get rid of Tony, Waters, Surtain, and if anybody will take him LJ.  </p>
<p>I remain not totally satisfied with the situation.</p>
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