Comments on: As The L.J. Turns … Thursday Cup O’Chiefs http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html Dedicated to providing the best coverage of the Kansas City Chiefs. News, commentary, reports, and exclusive inside information - daily! Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:54:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: el cid http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31190 el cid Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:24:56 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31190 Like LJ or not, love the Chiefs or not. The LJ situation is about MONEY and CONTRACT. Do not be supprised if it is not all forgotten about and he plays. The Hunts do not waste money, he has money coming and will get it either way. Sorry dusty, the Chiefs will be no better without LJ (and no better with LJ). This is not a one man team and what is left is not any good. Like LJ or not, love the Chiefs or not. The LJ situation is about MONEY and CONTRACT. Do not be supprised if it is not all forgotten about and he plays. The Hunts do not waste money, he has money coming and will get it either way.

Sorry dusty, the Chiefs will be no better without LJ (and no better with LJ). This is not a one man team and what is left is not any good.

]]> By: dusty http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31188 dusty Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:14:57 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31188 Johnson may be intelligent as demonstrated by completing college, but he is not necessarily smart, witness is continuing problems. For sure, he is not mature - maybe this is the source of his problems. Or maybe, with all the $$$, he just doesn't care what happens anymore. I don't believe Johnson brings anything positive to the Chiefs and hasn't for some time. Whenever he departs the KC scene, it will not be too soon. Want to bet the Chiefs starts doing better when he's not around? Any takers???? Johnson may be intelligent as demonstrated by completing college, but he is not necessarily smart, witness is continuing problems. For sure, he is not mature – maybe this is the source of his problems. Or maybe, with all the $$$, he just doesn’t care what happens anymore. I don’t believe Johnson brings anything positive to the Chiefs and hasn’t for some time. Whenever he departs the KC scene, it will not be too soon. Want to bet the Chiefs starts doing better when he’s not around? Any takers????

]]> By: Lee http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31175 Lee Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:34:19 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31175 Well written Bob. But I don't expect LJ to play another down as a Chief. Well written Bob. But I don’t expect LJ to play another down as a Chief.

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31172 Jim Lloyd+ Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:57:43 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31172 Cottam and Pope both have Repuation's of being HARD to bring down . Mike Shanahan was alway's finding RB's that were on the team but in other position's . Just need that little extra for first down's , If you had a 6'8'- 270 lb RB hitting that line , what it would be like is adding extra Octane to a weak blocking , whatever . Cottam and Pope both have Repuation’s of being HARD to bring down .
Mike Shanahan was alway’s finding RB’s that were on the team but in other position’s .
Just need that little extra for first down’s , If you had a 6′8′- 270 lb RB hitting that line , what it would be like is adding extra Octane to a weak blocking , whatever .

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31171 Jim Lloyd+ Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:21:33 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31171 Larry may have a way out . there would be no draft pick's involed . The team has some big TE's and they arn't doing anything , they may love the chance to run the ball ? No Christran Okeay , but maybe some chance of some first down's . 20 hand off's a game and no first down's , what could be worse . There is no type of blocking for 200 lb -RB's . If they could cut the 3&ot's down to 2 to 4 per game + this would have to pull more def.up & open some passing lane's ? Larry may have a way out . there would be no draft pick’s involed .
The team has some big TE’s and they arn’t doing anything , they may love the chance to run the ball ? No Christran Okeay , but maybe some chance of some first down’s . 20 hand off’s a game and no first down’s , what could be worse .
There is no type of blocking for 200 lb -RB’s .
If they could cut the 3&ot’s down to 2 to 4 per game + this would have to pull more def.up & open some passing lane’s ?

]]> By: Bakjon http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31170 Bakjon Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:33:00 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31170 ED you're right to a point about LJ not knowing how to handle adversity but his basic problem has stemmed from being spoiled. He has always complained about playing time or about the way he has been used from high school until the present. He's happy during his good times but when the bad times occur he goes off the deep end. For everyone who says that the Chiefs should release him now that means they would be responsible for his salary for the rest of the year and he would be free to sign with someone else. Depending on whether or not the league decides to suspend him for a period of time, the Chiefs could list him as inactive for the rest of the games which would mean they would be off the hook for his salary. They could cut him before the start of the 2010 season and be free of LJ and his salary. LJ and his agent would probably file a grievance but the Chiefs could argue they felt Smith, Charles, and Savage were a better fit for their offense than LJ. ED you’re right to a point about LJ not knowing how to handle adversity but his basic problem has stemmed from being spoiled. He has always complained about playing time or about the way he has been used from high school until the present. He’s happy during his good times but when the bad times occur he goes off the deep end.

For everyone who says that the Chiefs should release him now that means they would be responsible for his salary for the rest of the year and he would be free to sign with someone else. Depending on whether or not the league decides to suspend him for a period of time, the Chiefs could list him as inactive for the rest of the games which would mean they would be off the hook for his salary. They could cut him before the start of the 2010 season and be free of LJ and his salary. LJ and his agent would probably file a grievance but the Chiefs could argue they felt Smith, Charles, and Savage were a better fit for their offense than LJ.

]]> By: Behind Enemy Lines http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31169 Behind Enemy Lines Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:04:08 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31169 Agree to disagree Mad Chief. I don't think he's that smart...even if he's "educated." He's losing $600,000 for his suspension and credibility in the league which impacts future paychecks...here or elsewhere. In my opinion, he was simply throwing a temper tantrum or else he would have stood by his comments about Haley. Agree to disagree Mad Chief. I don’t think he’s that smart…even if he’s “educated.” He’s losing $600,000 for his suspension and credibility in the league which impacts future paychecks…here or elsewhere. In my opinion, he was simply throwing a temper tantrum or else he would have stood by his comments about Haley.

]]> By: byzkit http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31168 byzkit Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:41:12 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31168 This is the perfect time to release LJ. With Kolby Smith coming off the PUP list. Pioli doesn't need to release anyone else. On top of that, next year is going to be uncapped. So really releasing him won't cost anything against the cap. I would be surprised to see 27 on the field on red and gold again. This is the perfect time to release LJ. With Kolby Smith coming off the PUP list. Pioli doesn’t need to release anyone else. On top of that, next year is going to be uncapped. So really releasing him won’t cost anything against the cap. I would be surprised to see 27 on the field on red and gold again.

]]> By: ED http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31167 ED Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:14:29 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31167 Problem with LJ is he doesn't know how to handle adversity. You take about how he had both parents and he had such a good life and he didn't come from a broken home Bob. Maybe thats why this guy is the way he is. His whole life he never knew what it felt like to face adversity. He's use to have things go his way. He's use to getting his way. He never knew what it felt like to be raised by a single parent. Or what it is like to not know what you're going to eat from one night to the next. Or even if when he gets home will he still have somewhere to lay his head because his mom or dad couldn't make rent this month. The guy may just haven't faced life challenges enough and when he does he blows up because he's use to things going his way. Lets look at the situation with the female he spit the drink on. He got rejected and got upset spit on the girl. He's not having a good yr running the football so now its Haley's fault he no longer has the explosion he possessed 3 yrs ago or the offensive line. The true character of a man is shown when he faces adversity not when things are going well. And what Larry has shown for years is he doesn't have good character when faced with adversity. He cracks every time. Problem with LJ is he doesn’t know how to handle adversity. You take about how he had both parents and he had such a good life and he didn’t come from a broken home Bob. Maybe thats why this guy is the way he is. His whole life he never knew what it felt like to face adversity. He’s use to have things go his way. He’s use to getting his way. He never knew what it felt like to be raised by a single parent. Or what it is like to not know what you’re going to eat from one night to the next. Or even if when he gets home will he still have somewhere to lay his head because his mom or dad couldn’t make rent this month. The guy may just haven’t faced life challenges enough and when he does he blows up because he’s use to things going his way.

Lets look at the situation with the female he spit the drink on. He got rejected and got upset spit on the girl. He’s not having a good yr running the football so now its Haley’s fault he no longer has the explosion he possessed 3 yrs ago or the offensive line.

The true character of a man is shown when he faces adversity not when things are going well. And what Larry has shown for years is he doesn’t have good character when faced with adversity. He cracks every time.

]]> By: SG http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31166 SG Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:54:53 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31166 "•CHIEFS – suspended RB Larry Johnson for two weeks for conduct detrimental to the team." I think we should take the coach's approach - talk about the guys that are actually going to be on the field the next time they play. Let's omit discussing troubled suspended players and discuss the guys who are looking like they could have a real impact on helping this team win. “•CHIEFS – suspended RB Larry Johnson for two weeks for conduct detrimental to the team.”

I think we should take the coach’s approach – talk about the guys that are actually going to be on the field the next time they play. Let’s omit discussing troubled suspended players and discuss the guys who are looking like they could have a real impact on helping this team win.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31165 gorillafan Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:39:04 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31165 sorry to say, but its going to happen baby lj sorry to say, but its going to happen baby lj

]]> By: Baby LJ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31164 Baby LJ Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:44:10 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31164 No way in hell should LJ be in our record books. Please don't let this idiot take another snap as a Chief. No way in hell should LJ be in our record books. Please don’t let this idiot take another snap as a Chief.

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31163 Jim Lloyd+ Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:38:54 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31163 Enemy Lines These Mobil phone's++ are keeping him up to date. You don't have to be sharp if you can get all the advice from ton's of folk's . I get new's on what he say's to so and so , there's that much of it ! Enemy Lines
These Mobil phone’s++ are keeping him up to date.
You don’t have to be sharp if you can get all the advice from ton’s of folk’s .
I get new’s on what he say’s to so and so , there’s that much of it !

]]> By: Mad Chief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31162 Mad Chief Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:34:23 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31162 Behind Enemy Lines says: "There is no way LJ’s antics have been a calculated move by him over the last few years." I'm only referring to this latest incident. I think he knew that if he threw a "temper tantrum"...he would either get released, or benched. Either way, he gets paid and dis-associates himself from the Chiefs losing season. Behind Enemy Lines says:
“There is no way LJ’s antics have been a calculated move by him over the last few years.”

I’m only referring to this latest incident. I think he knew that if he threw a “temper tantrum”…he would either get released, or benched. Either way, he gets paid and dis-associates himself from the Chiefs losing season.

]]> By: Behind Enemy Lines http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31161 Behind Enemy Lines Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:28:20 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31161 Mad Chief says: On the contrary…this whole thing is just a way for him to get what he wants. I have to disagree. There is no way LJ's antics have been a calculated move by him over the last few years. Yes, he may be educated...but he's a little child that throws a temper tantrum when things aren't going the way he wants them to go (aPauled hit it on the head). He can't control himself...ask the women in the nightclubs. Mad Chief says:
On the contrary…this whole thing is just a way for him to get what he wants.

I have to disagree. There is no way LJ’s antics have been a calculated move by him over the last few years. Yes, he may be educated…but he’s a little child that throws a temper tantrum when things aren’t going the way he wants them to go (aPauled hit it on the head). He can’t control himself…ask the women in the nightclubs.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31160 gorillafan Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:47:04 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31160 they would be no okoya!!! they would be no okoya!!!

]]> By: Jack Danials http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31159 Jack Danials Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:27:47 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31159 There are a couple Tight End's on this team , due to their size , someone said that if you could get Neil Smith and hand him the ball , he would blow his way for 10 yard's everytime . 2 of those TE's are mamonth ! There are a couple Tight End’s on this team , due to their size , someone said that if you could get Neil Smith and hand him the ball , he would blow his way for 10 yard’s everytime .
2 of those TE’s are mamonth !

]]> By: el cid http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31158 el cid Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:21:36 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31158 The Chiefs cannot do much else. Bad decisions were made by management both carl and Pioli, now the team gets to live with it. Just like everyone chose to ignor retirements on the OL. Will Shields' replacement has never been addressed. Why? says I and wait till next year says you. What year are we talking about? 2012 The Chiefs cannot do much else. Bad decisions were made by management both carl and Pioli, now the team gets to live with it. Just like everyone chose to ignor retirements on the OL. Will Shields’ replacement has never been addressed. Why? says I and wait till next year says you. What year are we talking about? 2012

]]> By: Mad Chief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31157 Mad Chief Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:21:33 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31157 gorillafan says: "So do you guys think lj will start again, will haley start him against the steelers? will he be on the bench?" Not a clue. If there is one thing I can say about the 2009 Chiefs...they are not easy to predict. Unless, of course, we're talking about the play-calling. gorillafan says:
“So do you guys think lj will start again, will haley start him against the steelers? will he be on the bench?”

Not a clue. If there is one thing I can say about the 2009 Chiefs…they are not easy to predict. Unless, of course, we’re talking about the play-calling.

]]> By: Paul in Oklahoma http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31156 Paul in Oklahoma Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:21:19 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31156 Useless headcase. Let him go play wanna-be thug elsewhere. The only plus side of not having him score this year is not having to watch him give that goofy thug triangle thing. Grow up already. Useless headcase. Let him go play wanna-be thug elsewhere. The only plus side of not having him score this year is not having to watch him give that goofy thug triangle thing. Grow up already.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31155 gorillafan Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:06:44 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31155 So do you guys think lj will start again, will haley start him against the steelers? will he be on the bench? I have a bad feeling that he will be playing alot of downs still because it doesnt benefit the club any to release him, as of right now now anyway. next season he will def be gone So do you guys think lj will start again, will haley start him against the steelers? will he be on the bench?

I have a bad feeling that he will be playing alot of downs still because it doesnt benefit the club any to release him, as of right now now anyway. next season he will def be gone

]]> By: Mad Chief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31154 Mad Chief Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:40:08 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31154 Tracy says: "But just what is it about the folly of making boneheaded, career threatening moves that he doesn’t get?" On the contrary...this whole thing is just a way for him to get what he wants. The Chiefs options in this whole thing? #1 - The Chiefs release him. He gets paid by the Chiefs...and is free to sign with another team, who will also have to pay him. #2 - The Chiefs deactivate him for the rest of the season. He get paid for doing nothing. #3 - The Chiefs keep him on the active roster. He gets paid, whether he rides the bench or plays. It's really a no-win situation for the Chiefs. They're going to have to pay LJ, no matter what. Tracy says:
“But just what is it about the folly of making boneheaded, career threatening moves that he doesn’t get?”

On the contrary…this whole thing is just a way for him to get what he wants.

The Chiefs options in this whole thing?

#1 – The Chiefs release him. He gets paid by the Chiefs…and is free to sign with another team, who will also have to pay him.

#2 – The Chiefs deactivate him for the rest of the season. He get paid for doing nothing.

#3 – The Chiefs keep him on the active roster. He gets paid, whether he rides the bench or plays.

It’s really a no-win situation for the Chiefs. They’re going to have to pay LJ, no matter what.

]]> By: Tracy http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31153 Tracy Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:25:30 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31153 LJ has always seemed articulate and has not been one to hide his feelings. But just what is it about the folly of making boneheaded, career threatening moves that he doesn't get? There is something there that just doesn't compute. If the O-line were better his rushing average would reflect that. Is it impatience and frustration that causes these brain farts? He probably has less physical wear and tear than other RBs his age as his college career was essentially that one great senior season and his work in the NFL has essentially been the two years when he was most of KC's offense. He may well be Jim Brown redux but it looks like he will have to prove this elsewhere. He needs help or counseling of some kind; otherwise his NFL career is kaput. LJ has always seemed articulate and has not been one to hide his feelings.
But just what is it about the folly of making boneheaded, career threatening moves that he doesn’t get? There is something there that just doesn’t compute.
If the O-line were better his rushing average would reflect that.
Is it impatience and frustration that causes these brain farts?
He probably has less physical wear and tear than other RBs his age as his college career was essentially that one great senior season and his work in the NFL has essentially been the two years when he was most of KC’s offense.
He may well be Jim Brown redux but it looks like he will have to prove this elsewhere.
He needs help or counseling of some kind; otherwise his NFL career is kaput.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31152 Anonymous Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:20:51 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31152 That could be said for some other positions as well. PnS That could be said for some other positions as well. PnS

]]> By: jimbo http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31151 jimbo Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:14:15 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31151 I agree with aPauled. LJ simply has a bad temper. He can't stand to be nagged at and I also think that he is mad at himself & the world. I don't think there is any cure for that. He probably has a kind & gentle soul, he just can't mask that anger on the surface. As far as I'm concerned, he is no longer a Chief. I'm done talking about him. Go Chiefs... I agree with aPauled. LJ simply has a bad temper.
He can’t stand to be nagged at and I also think that he is mad at himself & the world. I don’t think there is any cure for that.
He probably has a kind & gentle soul, he just can’t mask that anger on the surface.
As far as I’m concerned, he is no longer a Chief.
I’m done talking about him.
Go Chiefs…

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31150 gorillafan Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:13:10 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31150 If you missed it on nfl network, go to website and watch trent greens comments, he has a different side of the whole lj saga. No im not taking larrys side, but does give ya a little something to think about, or just atleast hear If you missed it on nfl network, go to website and watch trent greens comments, he has a different side of the whole lj saga.

No im not taking larrys side, but does give ya a little something to think about, or just atleast hear

]]> By: Mad Chief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31149 Mad Chief Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:01:44 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31149 As I have been bitching about most of the season so far...there is only one way to see if any of the other RB's on the team can have success. Play them. They may or may not do any better than LJ. Hard to say. But, there's simply no other way to find out. As I have been bitching about most of the season so far…there is only one way to see if any of the other RB’s on the team can have success. Play them. They may or may not do any better than LJ. Hard to say. But, there’s simply no other way to find out.

]]> By: Rodeo John http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31148 Rodeo John Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:30:50 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31148 Well, with all of this, one thing we need to keep mind of. Our o-line. Don't get me wrong. Glad to see LJ gone. At least for the short period. I think, and as has been demonstrated, Charles can move the ball with this line as it is. Will he be able to maintain that with getting the ball more often? Only time will tell. I think that Haley is smart enough to realize that he will need to lean on Kolby to get the majority of the carries and utilize Charles as the main change of pace back. I can't remember how good of vision that Kolby displayed. Does anybody else? Reason I ask this is because with the zone blocking scheme, if Kolby doesn't have good vision and patience for a hole to open, he will just end up running up the backside of the blocker just like LJ did. Then we will all be ready for him to go away as well. Well, with all of this, one thing we need to keep mind of. Our o-line. Don’t get me wrong. Glad to see LJ gone. At least for the short period. I think, and as has been demonstrated, Charles can move the ball with this line as it is. Will he be able to maintain that with getting the ball more often? Only time will tell.

I think that Haley is smart enough to realize that he will need to lean on Kolby to get the majority of the carries and utilize Charles as the main change of pace back.

I can’t remember how good of vision that Kolby displayed. Does anybody else? Reason I ask this is because with the zone blocking scheme, if Kolby doesn’t have good vision and patience for a hole to open, he will just end up running up the backside of the blocker just like LJ did. Then we will all be ready for him to go away as well.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31147 gorillafan Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:22:38 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31147 It will be very interesting to see how us fans react the next home game against the steelers. Maybe in 3 weeks things will calm down and maybe he be cheered if he has a good run, or maybe we will here the famous booooooo..., or even better PRIEEEEST! ? what you guys think that will REALLY happen? It will be very interesting to see how us fans react the next home game against the steelers. Maybe in 3 weeks things will calm down and maybe he be cheered if he has a good run, or maybe we will here the famous booooooo…, or even better PRIEEEEST! ? what you guys think that will REALLY happen?

]]> By: Will http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31145 Will Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:03:42 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31145 When I think of LJ, I visualize two guys in a boat...and they're facing one another. They're both rowing, but obviously in different directions. As soon as one starts making too much progress, the other one rows harder. He's working against himself, instead of for himself. He has everything in the world except self-understanding. In my opinion, Larry's looking for the "real" Larry. He has everything that he once thought would bring him happiness, but he's obviously not really fulfilled or enjoying his experience and it could be he's little ticked off about it...taking it out on the world, instead of seeking to gain the understanding that would put the pieces of the puzzle called his life back together...again, that's just my opinion. He seems to be ticked off because he's unhappy and unhappy because he's ticked off! Unless you've been there, you'd be wise to observe without judging. When I think of LJ, I visualize two guys in a boat…and they’re facing one another. They’re both rowing, but obviously in different directions. As soon as one starts making too much progress, the other one rows harder. He’s working against himself, instead of for himself. He has everything in the world except self-understanding. In my opinion, Larry’s looking for the “real” Larry. He has everything that he once thought would bring him happiness, but he’s obviously not really fulfilled or enjoying his experience and it could be he’s little ticked off about it…taking it out on the world, instead of seeking to gain the understanding that would put the pieces of the puzzle called his life back together…again, that’s just my opinion. He seems to be ticked off because he’s unhappy and unhappy because he’s ticked off! Unless you’ve been there, you’d be wise to observe without judging.

]]> By: ThunderChief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31144 ThunderChief Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:52:53 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31144 Looking back a couple of years, after 700+ carries in 2005-06, who thought at the time that LJ's best days were behind him? I was one and thought the big dollar contract given to LJ prior to the 2007 season was a huge mistake. Now, with the team struggling to remain competitive, the LJ chickens have come home to not only roost but crap down all over the franchise. How nice would it be to unring this bell? Depending on how the other RBs take up the challenge for the remainder of 2009, we could be in the off-season market for a featured back along with all the other dire needs in need of upgrades at other various positions. Looking back a couple of years, after 700+ carries in 2005-06, who thought at the time that LJ’s best days were behind him? I was one and thought the big dollar contract given to LJ prior to the 2007 season was a huge mistake.

Now, with the team struggling to remain competitive, the LJ chickens have come home to not only roost but crap down all over the franchise. How nice would it be to unring this bell?

Depending on how the other RBs take up the challenge for the remainder of 2009, we could be in the off-season market for a featured back along with all the other dire needs in need of upgrades at other various positions.

]]> By: Coachb http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31143 Coachb Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:46:40 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31143 Hey Bob--good to see your posts--I've always enjoyed your takes and really never saw you as spouting the company line when you worked for the team. LJ is not an enigma though...he is a spoiled brat. Although he likes to hang with JZ and sport that "tatted" look that is so popular in young urban culture, he is a product of an upper middle class home--one that provided him with everything he could have ever wanted. He has always felt people don't appreciate his talent, and when he hears negativity he takes it as hating on him. This is a common problem with privileged young people today--they can't take criticism and instead of shutting up and proving themselves, they have the outlets in Twitter, Facebook, cell phone conversations, etc. to make their complaints known to a wide audience. A few drinks and a healthy dose of anger makes the inhibitions even fewer. I don't believe LJ's talent is gone. The line the chiefs field weekly is one of the worst in the NFL. Only Brandon Albert can legitimately be called a starter in the NFL. How many holding penalties has Brian Waters been called for this year? Give LJ a hole and he can get started. Get him started and he can run over people, but like a Jerome Bettis or an Eddie George, a bad line shows his weakness--lack of elusiveness. Again, thanks for your posts, Bob. Keep em coming. Hey Bob–good to see your posts–I’ve always enjoyed your takes and really never saw you as spouting the company line when you worked for the team. LJ is not an enigma though…he is a spoiled brat. Although he likes to hang with JZ and sport that “tatted” look that is so popular in young urban culture, he is a product of an upper middle class home–one that provided him with everything he could have ever wanted. He has always felt people don’t appreciate his talent, and when he hears negativity he takes it as hating on him. This is a common problem with privileged young people today–they can’t take criticism and instead of shutting up and proving themselves, they have the outlets in Twitter, Facebook, cell phone conversations, etc. to make their complaints known to a wide audience. A few drinks and a healthy dose of anger makes the inhibitions even fewer. I don’t believe LJ’s talent is gone. The line the chiefs field weekly is one of the worst in the NFL. Only Brandon Albert can legitimately be called a starter in the NFL. How many holding penalties has Brian Waters been called for this year? Give LJ a hole and he can get started. Get him started and he can run over people, but like a Jerome Bettis or an Eddie George, a bad line shows his weakness–lack of elusiveness. Again, thanks for your posts, Bob. Keep em coming.

]]> By: Tim http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31142 Tim Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:39:49 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31142 Its pretty simple to me: he was raised in the right environment in the right way but he longed for the "street" life, or the illusion of it, he was around but rarely got to "touch" because of the close supervision. Once out on his own, he's acting out. He's spoiled in the sense he feeels he has the education, the money & the fame. As a result, he keeps doing this stuff because deep down inside HE FEELS HE CAN with minimal repercussion - in his own mind. To this point, he has been correct. Yes, he's served suspension & missed a couple of paychecks, but his repressed desire to experience what he couldn't is too powerful...like a drug. He hasn't hit bottom. Its sad because of the talent & intelligence, but most of all for his father who tried so hard. Its pretty simple to me: he was raised in the right environment in the right way but he longed for the “street” life, or the illusion of it, he was around but rarely got to “touch” because of the close supervision. Once out on his own, he’s acting out. He’s spoiled in the sense he feeels he has the education, the money & the fame. As a result, he keeps doing this stuff because deep down inside HE FEELS HE CAN with minimal repercussion – in his own mind. To this point, he has been correct. Yes, he’s served suspension & missed a couple of paychecks, but his repressed desire to experience what he couldn’t is too powerful…like a drug. He hasn’t hit bottom.

Its sad because of the talent & intelligence, but most of all for his father who tried so hard.

]]> By: aPauled http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31141 aPauled Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:25:23 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31141 Bob, you are way over thinking this. Yes, he is a smart guy. Yes, he spews hateful speech. No, it's probably not what he really thinks or feels. It's called a temper. LJ has and can't control his temper. Bob, you are way over thinking this. Yes, he is a smart guy. Yes, he spews hateful speech. No, it’s probably not what he really thinks or feels. It’s called a temper. LJ has and can’t control his temper.

]]> By: Mad Chief http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31140 Mad Chief Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:04:42 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31140 Jack Danials says: "Jason Whitlock says LJ is Scott and Todds most valuable player . Is there anyone on this planet that can confirm this or agrees ?" Agree...with Whitlock? You're joking, right? If JW told me at 11:59 that it would be 12:00 in one minute...I'd have a hard time believing it. Maybe Johnson COULD have been "Scott and Todd's most valuable player". He totally wasted the opportunity. And make no mistakes, people...LJ HAD the opportunity. He just blew it. I agree with Harold, MahiMike, and many other Chiefs fans. I would prefer not to ever see him in our uniform again. He doesn't deserve it. Jack Danials says:
“Jason Whitlock says LJ is Scott and Todds most valuable player .
Is there anyone on this planet that can confirm this or agrees ?”

Agree…with Whitlock? You’re joking, right? If JW told me at 11:59 that it would be 12:00 in one minute…I’d have a hard time believing it.

Maybe Johnson COULD have been “Scott and Todd’s most valuable player”. He totally wasted the opportunity. And make no mistakes, people…LJ HAD the opportunity. He just blew it.

I agree with Harold, MahiMike, and many other Chiefs fans. I would prefer not to ever see him in our uniform again. He doesn’t deserve it.

]]> By: MahiMike http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31139 MahiMike Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:33:45 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31139 LJ has worn out his welcome so many times, the mat is barren. Not only is he a cancer, but he's taking valuable carries away from other backs that can actually catch and block. I hope they cut him like a piece of steak. LJ has worn out his welcome so many times, the mat is barren. Not only is he a cancer, but he’s taking valuable carries away from other backs that can actually catch and block. I hope they cut him like a piece of steak.

]]> By: Harold C. http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31138 Harold C. Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:56:25 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31138 Bob said: "Johnson needs just 75 rushing yards to become the franchise’s career leader. When it comes to running with the ball, L.J.’s pretty darn good." Well....the vast majority of those rushing yards he has accumulated happened in his early years with the Chiefs when he was younger and we had a great O'line. In recent years he has not done squat. He only gets 2 or 3 yards most of the time when he gets the ball.....and sometimes he gets hit for a loss. He rarely gets more than 5 yards. Yes the O'line can be blamed for some of that but Larry has to take some blame as well. I don't think he has it anymore....not without some supreme powerhouse of an o'line in front of him anyway. Everybody is tired of this nonsense. It's time for him to go. I hope he never shows up in a game as a Chiefs player again. Bob said: “Johnson needs just 75 rushing yards to become the franchise’s career leader. When it comes to running with the ball, L.J.’s pretty darn good.”

Well….the vast majority of those rushing yards he has accumulated happened in his early years with the Chiefs when he was younger and we had a great O’line. In recent years he has not done squat. He only gets 2 or 3 yards most of the time when he gets the ball…..and sometimes he gets hit for a loss. He rarely gets more than 5 yards. Yes the O’line can be blamed for some of that but Larry has to take some blame as well. I don’t think he has it anymore….not without some supreme powerhouse of an o’line in front of him anyway. Everybody is tired of this nonsense. It’s time for him to go. I hope he never shows up in a game as a Chiefs player again.

]]> By: Jack Danials http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31137 Jack Danials Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:44:01 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31137 Jason Whitlock says LJ is Scott and Todds most valuable player . Is there anyone on this planet that can confirm this or agrees ? Jason Whitlock says LJ is Scott and Todds most valuable player .
Is there anyone on this planet that can confirm this or agrees ?

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/as-the-l-j-turns-%e2%80%a6-thursday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-31136 Jim Lloyd+ Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:42:42 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=11385#comment-31136 Over the year's , this and a lot of other team's have played someone that has prevented the expourse of talent that was not uncoverd , from having sat on the sideline . There is one thing that can only be solved properly , that is to play in the game . Pratice will not let the real cat out of the bag . There is only so much time on a game clock and once you start the " best " man , it's hard to switch. What do you do as a HC ? Good reading Bob . Over the year’s , this and a lot of other team’s have played someone that has prevented the expourse of talent that was not uncoverd , from having sat on the sideline .
There is one thing that can only be solved properly , that is to play in the game . Pratice will not let the real cat out of the bag .
There is only so much time on a game clock and once you start the ” best ” man , it’s hard to switch.
What do you do as a HC ?
Good reading Bob .

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