Here are some stats for the “close” losses (games the Chiefs lost by a touchdown or less) where Thigpen started (Jets, Tampa, Chargers #1 and #2, Denver #2, and Miami):

Total Chiefs 1st half pts: 110, total 2nd half pts: 22 (this does not include the Flowers INT TD in Q4 of the Jets)

Total Chiefs 1st half 1st downs: 80, total 2nd half 1st downs: 36

This is no surprise; it was frequently noted on this blog and others that the Chiefs offense under Thigpen tended to stall in the 2nd half of games.

Let’s also remember how the KC offense performed in some crucial late-game situations:
SD #1 – missed 2-pt conversion that would have won the game
SD #2 – Chargers kick winning field goal after their onsides kick was fumbled by D Bowe
Miami – Miami scores go-ahead TD, KC goes 4-and-out, KC gets ball back at their 7 with 1:45 left after Ricky Williams fumble, Thigpen throws 2 incompletions and and interception to end the game
Tampa – 4th quarter, 3:24 left, KC has the ball and 8 point lead, offense goes 3-and-out
NYJ – 4th quarter, KC defense stops NYJ on 2 of 3 posessions and scores TD to put KC back in the game; KC offense can’t score on 3 possessions.

Of course, the defense deserves a large helping of blame in these games as well, but blaming all of these losses on the defense alone is simplistic.

- exactly arrowhead1978…

Too, Confucius Generally speaking said –

“The truth is one should carefully avoid the laying down of rules – this because no creed formulated by another person can ever excuse anyone from the duty of thinking for himself.”

daddy-o

Please don’t ignore the 48-yard fg he converted.

You did, didn’t you… oh the humanity.

(PS)- ‘Q’ certainly showed up big in the return game that you have sworn will net him a spot on the 53 man…huh. Too small…too inconsistent, and frankly too, he didn’t look like a 4.3 guy – more like a 4.45 one.

Practice squad.

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I root for the chiefs, if not why would I care if it was assinine to get rid of your best receiver and a pretty good blocker when you know the Qb you just picked up is going to need the help?? The obvious is that I dont believe in Cassell as a franchise QB, where as I do believe that Thigpen could get it done after what he did last year with nothing around him, except for a all-pro TE and a soon to be all-pro WR (bowe).

by the way how many more recieving options does he need? They already went out and picked up Engram and Toomer, which IMO Toomer is the better player and most consistent, but really who else is going to elevate Cassell’s play? Plus the same could have been said about Thigpen last year, actually if the Defense last year played as well as the defense played saturday night the chiefs would have had 5-6 more wins considering they were up in a majority of those games in the 4th quarter where the defense let up and allowed the other team to win the game, San Diego and Tampa Bay. So like I have said before, Cassell is a product of the system that is New england, not a franchise QB…

did an all pro tight end get the chiefs any playoff wins in 10 years?

does cassel’s fumble mean hes a bust? so cutler is as well? really? pathetic argument

pathetic attempt to attack the new regime and any move made

its kind of sad that you sit there rooting against the coaches, the players…because why? you liked herm and dont like pioli/haleY? then go “hate” another team…you sure arent rooting for them.

The guy is a machine. And hes never had a top end QB or offense…in fact hes never had a 2nd reciever worth a darn…

Hes ridiculously underrated.

Right. ‘check’

Being Gannon is infinitely more likely Tyler than Mutt become as Brady, last night being exhibit A.
That Ca$$el fumbled away the football last night was his loss, as KC’s – just as it becomes clear Jr.$ $igning of Mutt be same.

Should’ve listened to your all pro TE ’search’ , ‘check’ & Jr. – too late…

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One of the two Croyle/thigpen are trade bait…..

How bout that Succop!

Cassel played well in my opinion, he looked sharp, his throws have some zip…Im content with his play…

I do kind of believe that he needs another recieving option, and no, not ashley lelie…hopefully a boldin type trade.

Brodie looked very sharp, even taking into account that he was throwing to the best WR’s. He had that dumb illegal forward pass penalty, however, that killed a drive.

Thigpen, despite his numbers, didn’t look great in my book. He made some good runs and a few good throws, but many of this throws weren’t sharp and at least two of his completions that I can remember were poorly-thrown balls to wide-open receivers.

All-in-all, I think the Chiefs are going to end up with two good QB’s on their roster this season, and the odd man out may have some trade value.

we also covered that last season

Lions 4-0 preseason, 0-16 regular season
the year SD went 1-15, 4-0 preseason

Its a work in progress…realize hes working with a trash heap, he needs to find a few lost treasures, and leave the rest for the raiders.

It is what it is, but I would say a few guys let me down…As for the Bowe thing, he responded, he will start next week…case closed.

I just wont overreact to a preseason game…its pretty ridiculous….

the one positive I took was Succop has quite the leg on kickoffs.

Work in progress. Didn’t expect them to win, but hoped to see better play from the OL. Too much penetration and no push. Just like the last couple of years. Got to find a quality center. Niswanger just too tall and can’t get leverage.

Oh well. Just pre-season. Reporters get too worked up. Now they have real game tape to look at.

Talk about need depth on the o-line. I would still say its a draw for back up QB. Because though Croyle made some nice throws. Thigpen once again made it happen with less to work with on the field. Next game I would like to see what he does out there with the second team and not the third team. Rodney Wright made some plays also.

I also thought Battle, Larry, and Salvage looked good when they weren’t getting hit in the backfield. Defensively i’m very impressed. We got sacks and we slowed down an explosive offense with the best receiver in the game Andre Johnson and their dynamic running Slaton. Not bad at all defense.

Considering the lack of overall talent and the draft position, the Chiefs needed two or three starters from the draft and I do not see them. This team looks plain undertalented and no one stepped up except for our Kicker. That is the only complaint I have for our new GM and HC. But we have the entire preseason to try to get something to click.

How about Thiggy. If he doesn’t make this team then Pioli/Haley are idiots.(as rin claims) He just continues to make due with whatever team he has to work with and does his thing. What an asset for any team.

Speaking of whatever team he has, I think Cassel showed tonight that without the all star cast around him, he will struggle. Croyle and Thiggy both are conditioned to perform with a weak cast around them.

As expected with a new regime we did not look at all sharp, not nearly so as the Texans. Maybe we are in too good of shape, the laps for mistakes hasn’t had much of an impact so far. Lots of penalties tonight and mostly the get your head on straight variety.

daddy-o

Doesn’t it seem like they are picking up from where they left off last year?

Hey….I know it’s just preseason…..but were not we saying the same thing in the last couple of years preseason games? …..and beyond that? Hmmmmmmmmm?

SACREBLEU!

We hired & – how can it be that we are an embrassingly bad 0-1 after hiring THE BEST GM candidate AND THE BEST Head Coach candidate in all of Kingdom Come?

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh?

‘Cause Rin told you so – they are OVERHYPES

heh heh heh

daddy-o

Texans 16 – haley’s 10

Rin “This Is My House” Tin Tin/ Voice of Truth: 1

The Chiefs rose-colored glasses wearing fandom: 0

Told all ya alls how it was gonna be…

2, 3 “Hey follow me, can’t you see…I’m the Pied Piper trust in me…”

daddy-o