An Outside View

It’s always fun to get an outside view of what’s happening with the Chiefs. The 5-2 start is drawing attention, especially with a game coming up this coming Sunday against a resurgent Oakland Raiders.

Our man Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News wrote a piece on the Chiefs and their turnaround over the weekend. He gives credit to Scott Pioli and Todd Haley, and he also gives credit to Carl Peterson/Herm Edwards/Bill Kuharich. Here’s just part of what he wrote:

“Most NFL coaching staffs dread playing youth because young players make mistakes – and mistakes translate into defeats on Sundays. The 2008 Chiefs suffered those growing pains, losing a franchise-record 14 games, and it wound up costing Peterson, Kuharich and Edwards their jobs.

But the Chiefs are better off today as a result of that decision to accelerate the development of a handful of young players. Six of those 2008 draft picks now start on a 5-2 Kansas City team that leads the AFC West by two games in the loss column.”

Here’s the link to Rick Gosselin’s entire story.


9 Responses to “An Outside View”

  • November 1, 2010  - Byzkit says:

    Hey Bob that was a great article… I really enjoyed when you used to have the podcasts weekly with Rick Gosselin and Len Dawson. Is that something you are going to try to bring back?


  • November 2, 2010  - robotfighter says:

    People are trashing Carl and Herm and giving all of the credit to Pioli and Haley. The mistake that Herm and Carl made was not gutting the team in 2006 and instead waiting 2 more years to do it.


  • November 2, 2010  - Michael says:

    Herm and Kuharich deserve tons of credit. But by all reports at the time, Carl had to be dragged into it kicking and screaming. He shouldn’t be given credit after the fact.


  • November 2, 2010  - el cid says:

    Actually my view is that Carl did all he could to get back on track. From the time of Marty leaving to Carl’s leaving, all he did was try to pull rabbits out of a hat with no bottom (or is it top). Unfortunately, other than Vermeil, he chose loser after loser. Draft picks, who his coaches or scouts died to have, stunk. Remember Simms and Savii?

    As for Herm, seemed more like a snake oil salesman than a head coach. Like in the Music Man, made you feel good until he left the room and then you looked around wondering what happened. Remember Hank Stram was great in KC but failed in NO.


  • November 2, 2010  - RW says:

    In the final analysis, a team’s success today can be directly traced to the quality of their drafts over, say, the past 3-4 years. The fact that the Chiefs have so many contributors/starters from those draft classes speaks to their record at present.

    The other requirement is quality coaching so a little credit can be spread around to CP/Herm for their 2007 picks and the current staff for getting top performance out of most of the young Chiefs.


  • November 2, 2010  - Ernie says:

    No argument from me about the guys at the head of the Chiefs organization in 2010 and obviously we did draft some key players of today’s team prior to the new regime. Since Herm was mentioned here I thought it ironic that fans in Arrowhead last Sunday were up in arms and very vocal (our right) about going for it on 4th down when it seems our previous coach Herm only wanted to kick FGs and fans were upset! How times change (for the better IMO)


  • November 2, 2010  - JohnNdallas says:

    Drafting talent is one thing, but having a plan on how to develop and use it is a whole other story.

    That is all.


  • November 2, 2010  - RickyP says:

    “But the Chiefs are better off today as a result of that decision to accelerate the development of a handful of young players. Six of those 2008 draft picks now start on a 5-2 Kansas City team that leads the AFC West by two games in the loss column.”

    This is misleading as only four actually got any significant playing time. Glenn Dorsey and the three Brandon(Branden)s were thrown into the breech. Charles and Richardson were allowed the more conventional “slow road” developmental process.

    I don’t think anyone ever gave Herm grief for his eye for good players…just his coaching ability! That being said, only Tamba Hali, Brodie Croyle and Dwayne Bowe remain with the team from his first two drafts (2006, 2007).

    And I, personally, have never been on the “lynch Carl Peterson” bandwagon. As a long time Chiefs fan I remember what the organization was like before his arrival. And that being said, it was time for him to go. Twenty years of near misses and big wiffs was, plainly speaking, enough.


  • November 2, 2010  - Edward says:

    More credit does go to Herm than anyone. I think he had an huge impact on that 2008 draft. Peterson by all reports prevented Herm from starting that rebuilding process in 2007. Which knock it back to 2008. No way was Herm going to get another yr. It was bad deal for Herm from the start. But he deserves the credit.




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