All Is Quiet On Baldwin vs. Jones Bout

From M&T Bank Stadium, Baltimore, Maryland

The trip to Baltimore did not start with good news when it became known that first-round draft choice Jonathan Baldwin suffered a wrist injury during a locker room fight with teammate Thomas Jones in the finals days of the team’s training camp stay in St. Joseph.

That’s not the type of news that any coach wants to hear, but especially not when Todd Haley has put so much time and effort into what he calls team building.

Acknowledgement of the altercation did not come from Haley or the organization. As has been their pattern in the previous two years, they publicly pretend that nothing happened. So there was no explanation of what may have caused the tussle.

“Jonathan Baldwin did not play tonight due to injury,” Haley said when asked about the situation. “As I say in here a bunch, that’s the extent of what I’m going to talk about.”

Haley was asked if there was an altercation involving Baldwin and Jones.

“As with many things on our team, we fall into the family business category,” Haley said. “I’ll talk about the guys that were out there tonight and playing and trying to get better.”

Jones was not willing to talk about the incident either.

“At this point, I’m just focused on this game and how we played,” Jones said. “If it’s not a football question, there’s nothing to answer. If it’s not a football question, I’m not interested in answering.”

Other Chiefs waved away questions about what happened between Baldwin and Jones.

“It’s family business,” said SS Eric Berry. “It’s not something that anybody is going to talk about outside the family.”

But there’s no doubt that the Chiefs and Baldwin face a long road of rehabilitation for his wrist and his reputation, whether the organization wants to acknowledge the situation or not.

11 Responses to “All Is Quiet On Baldwin vs. Jones Bout”

  • August 20, 2011  - el cid says:

    Minor incident. The Chiefs are run like a branch of the CIA and that is fine for game plans, etc but a minor fisticuffs, come on.

  • August 20, 2011  - Niblick says:

    I totally agree El Cid. They could have at least acknowledged in some way that he was injured in an off field incident. They don’t have to go into detail. I was surprised they even acknowledged he was injured at all, with all their secrecy.

  • August 20, 2011  - Kevin says:

    el cid, where you are wrong is that while you and I might see a training camp scuffle as minor, the press will not. The KC press does not like Pioli and Haley and are always looking for dirt to make a big story about. Putting this incident out there will only cause more problems so it is better to handle it in house. Don’t allow the press to create even bigger schisms where there may not really be any to begin with.

  • August 20, 2011  - el cid says:

    I see what you are saying but I doubt anyone from Clark Hunt to the towels washers give a fat fig what the media in KC think, maybe they do not listen or read anything their produce. We, KC fans, eat it up but Pioli have total control of the Chiefs organization. In fact, I submit if someone leaked info, he/she would be gone so fast they would not know the number of the bus that hit them. So if the schism happens it will be between fans like me and, my new beating boy, the “go chiefs,in pioliwetrust” guys and none of us count anyway.

  • August 20, 2011  - Rick says:

    “fans like me and, my new beating boy, the “go chiefs,in pioliwetrust” guys”


    I have a lot of faith in both Pioli and Haley, there’s simply no reason not to. Sure, every move they made hasn’t been perfect, but then every organization wins some and loses some.

    Pioli and Haley took this team from the dregs of 2-14, to an AFCW crown and did it it in two years.

    So you’ll have to excuse me if I put more faith in their decisions than your constant negativity.

    Also, I’d be careful with that “beating boy” BS. That might not turn out the way you think it will.

  • August 20, 2011  - CanadaBrad says:

    I think the response, or lack thereof, from the players DOES demonstrate the team building that has happened and is probably continuing to happen. We have to keep in mind that arguments (and sometimes fights) can make groups of people work better together. If it’s “all out there” and everyone involved understands/appreciates ….

    I also have a lot of faith in the decisions that Pioli/Haley have made, and will continue to make.

    GO CHIEFS !!

  • August 20, 2011  - cychief24 says:

    I can live without some of the “inside scoops” Peterson used to leak if we are as successful as the Patriots are or close to it.
    Like Rick points out, we were 2-14 in ’08 and then win the Division in ’10 is an unbelievable accomplishment. How anyone can doubt Pioli/Haley at this point is beyond me.
    A side note…does anyone else notice how plays get in quicker with Muir to Zorn than it did from Weis?

  • August 20, 2011  - leo says:

    Bob,Bob,Bob. You surprise me. You are starting to fall into the same category as the rest of the ARROGANT, SELF IMPORTANT hacks in KC. “I am God, and you must give me access” . Well it ain’t happening, and I say good. For too long the Media in KC attacked the Chiefs, the management, coaches, and players. They tried to cause distractions, and turmoil. No wonder the Chiefs don’t talk to the Media. You use to be the voice of reason, but now that you are selling yourself, I guess it was inevitable. This was an internal issue, and Haley does not have the tine to address it. There are too many other issues to deal with, like getting ready for the season. If you want to ask a question about football, Haley said he would answer it. How about something like this one. Coach, how does the injury to Baldin affect the teams preparation for the the season, and how long will he be out? When do you think he will be able to start getting some plays in on games? I bet that would get answered.

  • August 20, 2011  - Niblick says:

    I don’t think Haley would have answered how long Baldwin would be out. He never discusses injuries, particularly on one that was off the field. The exceptions were the serious injuries to Leggett and Sheffield in the pre-season last year. He addressed those because they appeared very serious.

    I do agree the media, as well as some of the fans, are frustrated by the secrecy of this regime. I know they are not going to change. I still whole- heartly support Pioli in most all other aspects as to how he runs the organization. We just have to accept the a lot of the secrecy and no comments.

  • August 20, 2011  - grh_jr says:

    Fine with me as a fan if they deal with this in house. Hope Baldwin learns how to act like a Pro. Looks like he got too much knucklehead along with all his atlethic ability.

    The Chiefs have much better OPSEC than the CIA. You can always read about CIA goodies in the NYT, WaPo and FT.

  • August 20, 2011  - JB says:

    Leo, your right, Hell up until last year I had season tickets for 34 years and I felt like I had some sort of right to an opinion on how the fans were treated by management. Geez what was I thinkin’……

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