Comments on: Airing It Out

By: Big Lee

Big Lee — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:06:51 +0000

Bringing in OC is a good idea. Martz is not the guy, however. His schemes will get Cassel killed. Max-protect was never part of his vocabulary, and Chiefs OL is weakest link on team right now.

By: Jody

Jody — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:16:05 +0000

Points well made Bob. And I suggest that even if Haley wants to call play next season he be like Sean Peyton in N.O. who still has an OC and a QB coach.

By: BT

BT — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:26:44 +0000

LOL … Rufus … is that you ?

There’s not enough room in the locker room for two egos that size. And Saunders ? Lets get real. What Haley needs to be effective is …

1. Better talent
2. Better teachers

I have no doubt if he had some teachers that understood his offense he could get better play from the team. But to that end without better talent, your just polishing a t’rd

By: ED

ED — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:17:31 +0000

Yeah Enrique Siu wrote the article. OH YEA Kolby playing tommorow. This is going to be an interesting game. Charles and Kolby going to get there shot at running the football and Morgan gets to bring in some speed at saftey. Not to mention Chambers is playing tommorow.

It’ll be interesting to see how involved in the offense he will be. No doubt the Jags game will be the most fascinating game of the season. Based on all the new faces getting a chance to play Sunday.

By: BillyBob

BillyBob — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:18:47 +0000

Just a super article. What, not Bob?

By: ED

ED — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:12:56 +0000

Ratso totally disagree with you saying its bad thing to bring in a rookie head coach to a rebuilding team. Cowboys did it with Jimmy Johnson. Falcons did it last year. Its too early to judge Haley as a head coach. Until we get some more talent on this team we can’t judge Haley fairly at the end of the day players are the ones making plays not the coaches.

Also please people let the Cowher stuff go. People are treating Cowher like he’s Vince Lombardi no knock on the guy but he’s won 1 Super Bowl. Just like Brian Billick, Jon Gruden, and so and so on. Not to mention it took 16 years before that happen. Give it time people before we start throwing our coach and Gm under the bus. At least let them get another season end before we go saying he can’t coach.

By: ED

ED — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:06:37 +0000

Guys Enrique wrote the article. I disagree Martz doesn’t like to run the football. He throws it entirely too much. You can definately make an argument that it cost the Rams a Super Bowl against the Pats when he was their off. cordinator. Faulk clearly couldn’t be stopped on the ground but Martz kept wanting to throw the football and it cost the Rams the game.

Anyways wouldn’t mine having Al Saunders back he’s doing much of nothing in Baltimore. I’m sure Haley will turn the reigns of offensive coord. over once the season is over. He just needs to find someone who will bring a balanced offense and that can adapt an offense around the player we’ll have next yr. I do think Haley has taken on too much being offensive coord. and head coach. Though I think he’ll do a better job play-calling going forward between this Sunday till end of the yr. I think the bye week gave him a chance to see how he wasn’t calling plays to guys strength.

Next yr will have a new offensive coord. for sure though.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:31:49 +0000

its too late we can dream all we want —— now we are on the road to no where —— the best coach in ks is in k-state —–

By: Dave

Dave — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:05:40 +0000

Bob didn’t write this, guys. Look at the byline.

Incidentally, Bob should make it more clear when he’s printing something from someone else.

By: Ratso

Ratso — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:54:49 +0000

I agree with your premise but I don’t think the timing is right for such a move. Bringing in a new O-coordinator, like Martz, could light a fire under the Chief’s and improve a struggling offensive unit. If it would of been done when Chan was let go I’d of thought it was a smart move but in mid-season I think it adds confusion to an already confused team. Also, another take on this is, does Haley’s ego allow him to make this decision? I think he’s both too stubborn and self-confident to pull the trigger on a decison like this. It’d mean he made yet another mistake. With all the other mistakes he’s made I don’t see him willingly adding to the list. I thought firing Chan was a bad move. I think it’d of been a much wiser decision to move Chan to another position, on the coaching staff,and bring in another O-coordinator. Also, after the first couple of games I’ve come to think that Haley’s not ready to be a head coach. It may be more accurate to say he’s not ready to be our head coach. With all the young players on our Team why do you bring in a rookie Coach? Other than money I can’t think of a good reason. Don’t you think it’d have been a much better hire to bring in an experienced coach like say …. dream the big dream … Bill Cowher. Also, one of the keys to a successful head coach hire is it a good fit. Was bringing in a rookie coach a good fit for rebuilding a program? Again, I just don’t see the logic other than money! Unfortunely when you look at money what has all these losses cost the Chiefs? How many tickets go unsold because of a losing record and a Team that lacks the guidance needed to improve each week? But the deed is done so thanks for the discussion on how to improve the Chiefs. For now I don’t see adding a new O-coordinator as being a part of that process. One bad decision after another has brought us to this point in the 2009 season. It’s really tough being a Chief’s fan right now but I still think they can get better and return to their glory days.

By: Cupp

Cupp — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:03:23 +0000

Interesting read but it wasn’t written by Bob.
Mike Martz? He’s the answer to our problems? Martz was only successful b/c he had elite talent on that St. Louis team. There was, arguably 3 future hall of famers in Warner, Faulk, and Holt on that offense. Not mention all world tackle Orlando Pace. We’ve seen how Martz flops when he is without that level talent. That’s been proven over and over again, in his final years in the Lou, in Mo-town and SF. No doubt Haley needs help but Martz is not the answer. Currently the Chiefs do not have the toys Martz needs to be successful with his system.

By: alex k

alex k — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:52:41 +0000

no, HECK NO…

Frank Gansz went into retirement because martz took over with the rams, then he took a job the same year with the jags…thats how much he did not respect or like martz, and this was a man that liked everyone.

I dont like martz either, no no no…hes an OC yes but he has serious issues getting along with other coaches…gansz wasnt the only big name that left and was offered just as much or more to stay(Mike White to Oakland)

Why not use Mo, promote him…there has to be another option.

By: JJosefsen

JJosefsen — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:32:36 +0000

Very nice read, best I’ve read in a while..

By: Robert

Robert — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:53:54 +0000

Bob,
I would also suggest Al Saunders. He is the same type of coach as Mike Martz and worked under him. It was Carl Peterson and Lamar Hunt who did not offer him the opportunity to coach the Chiefs after Vermeil. I think Al, with Bob Saunders, and possibly Steve DeBerg as QB coach would help. A dark horse would be Brian Schottenheimer if he is available after this year. He has proven to develop QBs such as Drew Breeze and Phillip Rivers while he was in San Diego and he is a disciple of his father (of course), and learned from Steve Spurrier, Al Saunders, Cam Cameron, who are all disciples of Air Coryell where Martz gets his pedigree.

By: ThunderChief

ThunderChief — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:48:03 +0000

Bob,

A most excellent overview and analysis. First rate journalism.

By: Iowa Chiefs fan

Iowa Chiefs fan — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:24:21 +0000

Bob,
I just can’t see Haley hiring a new offensive coordinator at this point in the season. Mike Martz also runs an offense that is different than what Haley runs. I would like to see him hire a quarterbacks coach that if he became comfortable with he could let him take over calling plays.

Nobody is questioning Josh McDaniel for him calling plays. I’m sure there are other rookie coaches calling plays as well.

The main problem with the Chiefs offense is a poor offensive line. The receivers are not good either. They have a terrible running back in LJ that thinks he is better than he is as well,