A Week Left To Grab A Subscription

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There were many questions posted in the last week, along with quite a few testimonies to the value of the site. That’s the greatest advertising anyone could ask for or expect, when your customers have good things to say. Thank you.

Here are some answers to a few of the questions posted, and I appreciate all the feedback.

bleedredandgold says:  Bob you’ve got a helluva site here, but I can get all the Chiefs info I need on Arrowhead Pride for free. I’m surprised no local newspaper/website has offered you a job? Or maybe you could get back into radio? I always enjoyed your sideline updates on 101 The Fox.

Bob says: Arrowhead Pride is a nice website for bringing you the aggregate of Chiefs news out there. They don’t really cover the team; they cover the media that covers the team, and they do a great job of that. My boots are on the ground with the team on an every single day basis. Even in the tough world of trying to cover the Chiefs under their current operation, I haven’t thrown up my hands and gone away. I just don’t think there’s anything that tops being on site and seeing through whatever sliver of light they allow into their organization.

Mark says: I remember reading Bob’s articles in Chiefs Report back in the 80′s so I know Bob’s work. I’ve been a Chiefs fan since 1973 so I’ve been around awhile. I was just curious “From Bob” not being an “insider” at Arrowhead any longer what I should expect. I realize $25 isn’t very much money. So if it’s not very much then why charge at all? Just sounds a little egotistical to me. I’d rather he just charge all season long than say during the season my stuff is so good you have to pay to read it. Please.

Bob says: Egotistical? Come’on Mark, if I was letting my ego handle this I would charge $100 for this coverage. And maybe you are right, I should charge all season long, but I’m also trying to allow this web site to grow and turn into something that can pay the bills and keep what’s left of a leaky roof over my family’s head (by the way, if you are a trusty worthy roofer who can handle a fix up job, send me a note. These summer storms are killing us!) I don’t like paying for stuff anymore than you do. But it comes down to what it’s worth to me. If you disagree, that’s OK. But the internet is a business and there are a number of ways to try and make money with an independent site. I’ve tried them all and settling for a combination advertising and subscription seems to work best.

Denverchief says: Bob, do you have these available for auto-renew? I don’t want to go thru the pain of this every year. Just set on auto & be done.

Bob says: Denverchief, I hope to be around long enough to make this happen; it’s a great idea.

Mark says:  Don’t me to be a smart aleck Bob, but convince me. What am I going to get for my money here that I can’t get somewhere else on the internet for free? Especially when I can read all the info on KcChiefs.com, Josh Looney and listen to Haley’s Press conferences and other local radio talk shows again all for free….I didn’t do it last season so what did I miss?

Bob says: Mark, it’s a legitimate question and I don’t take you as a smart aleck at all. Here’s the best thing I can say, and I have trouble writing stuff like this because I don’t run around wearing ego on my sleeve.  I’m just a hillbilly from the mountains of Western Pennsylvania who loves football and does not want to grow up and have to find a real job. But KCChiefs.com as it is currently being run is nothing but party line. Josh does a great job of providing information, but he’s severely limited in what he’s allowed to write and say. Plus, there is no diversity of writing or opinion, if any opinion at all. Local radio talk shows cost you nothing to listen to and generally that’s what they are worth. They are products of today’s Twitter world and sometimes they can break stories in 140 characters. They all have opinions and that’s good, because that’s what drives sports interest – everybody knows what should and should not have been done. Some hosts have a good handle on the team, while others are driven only by their egos. I think it’s great that they all have jobs and there’s competition in the field. There’s nothing wrong with that.

This is the 35th year that I’ve covered pro football and the 31st year that I’ve covered the Chiefs. Other than making me an old man in the media horde, I see things that happen through different eyes than anybody else that covers this team. You may not like my vision, or what I write about what I see and that’s fine, but it’s a perspective that’s not available in the Kansas City Star, other websites or on local radio. And, it’s a vision that I believe is worth something. 

23 Responses to “A Week Left To Grab A Subscription”

  • August 22, 2011  - TXCHIEF says:

    So not gonna happen!

  • August 22, 2011  - phiwwup wivews says:

    I’ll be signing up this friday

  • August 22, 2011  - Kenneth says:

    Just paid up for my 2nd season here.

  • August 23, 2011  - TRUEGRIT says:

    Can Bob, or someone who has been a paid subscriber before give me a couple examples where the only place I could get certain valuable (if it is not valuable then it is not worth paying for) Chiefs information was here and no where else?

  • August 23, 2011  - Nathan says:

    I’ve been a subscriber since Bob started charging and I’ve been a reader since he put the site up.
    Bob is correct when he talks about being “on the ground” with the Chiefs. I’m glad to have another source of information for the Chiefs even if it does cost $25. I understand that some folks can’t afford to spare $25 and I feel for them. If you have the extra cash and want some good information and opinion on the Chiefs, Bob’s site is one of, if not the best site going.
    Keep up the good work Bob. I’m looking forward to the season and reading all I can about the Chiefs wherever I can find it.
    One more question Bob. Any word on whether or not you’ll have podcasts this season? I really enjoyed hearing what some of the other media guys(Goose and Czar) had to say about the Chiefs. More with Len Dawson would be sweet too!

  • August 23, 2011  - Jimbo says:

    TRUEGRIT… You must be dense or simply an immature agitator. Bob has his own flair on everything he writes. Whether the subject matter has happened,is happening or could happen, he’s on it. Either you enjoy his unique take on things or you don’t.
    Gifted writers are not a dime a dozen. Your decision should be simple… Subscribe and enjoy the meal or pick through your free stuff and go hungry.
    You asked for an example. I just gave you mine. Hope you stick around. Bob whips up a great dessert every now and then.
    Go Chiefs.

  • August 23, 2011  - Allanburnz says:

    GREAT Stuff!!!!
    Wouldnt go another season without Bob by my side. He keeps us up to date with great stories/insight. WAY better than any other sites “insider” information….

    Thanks Bob !!

    video interviews would be much appreciated with Len and anyone else …

  • August 23, 2011  - TRUEGRIT says:

    Jimbo, I think that asking what I may be paying for is neither dense or agitating. Flair has zero value to me, in other words I don’t need to be wined and dined, just give me the facts. If you need to be mentally masturbated with words and are willing to pay for it then I totally understand, personally, I have never had to pay for it.

    I simply asked for a couple examples of info that is valuable that I could not get anywhere else, so far you have failed miserably.

  • August 23, 2011  - Niblick says:

    Bob tends to give detailed practice information that is not available on other sites. Josh Looney gives some of the same but Bob always details exactly who was lined up on offense, defense, and special teams. It may not be valuable but it is is rarely posted anywhere else. I know he doesn’t always post Chiefs signings earlier than other sites but he often times provides more detail. Those are the things I get most from his site. I don’t always agree with his opinions, but that is not my main reason for using this site.

  • August 23, 2011  - Jimbo says:

    TRUEGRIT… Is this your first day on this web site?. Do you need someone to hold your hand?. I did’nt mean to ruffle your feathers. You just said it yourself “I have never had to pay for it.” So Don’t… Move along then. There’s really nothing “valuable” enough on this website worthy of your lunch money.
    On the other hand Niblick seems to find Bob’s info unique to other sites.

  • August 23, 2011  - TRUEGRIT says:

    Jimbo, you are a true Ambassador for Bob, I am sure you will make his coffers full, good luck with that…

  • August 23, 2011  - Kiowa says:

    Go away then truegrit, it’s a small amount of money, and unlike so many other sites, you dont have to navigate around a bunch of worthless, bright and shiny ads and worry about clicking on them.

    I enjoy the stats, so I really enjoy some of the silly stats that they like to post on this site. And like someone else mentioned, this site usually has a good bit of in-depth background and pictures about new players that you dont get anywhere else.

  • August 23, 2011  - TRUEGRIT says:

    So you are saying buy it to find out whats in it, reminds me of Obama’s healthcare plan.

    I have to congratulate you Bob, you have a bunch of extremely friendly and helpful people helping you out but…I think I will take their advise and PASS!

    Anytime a simple question is answered with attacks by sphincters is no place I will ever pay for.

  • August 23, 2011  - Kenneth says:

    Truegrit – Bowe is one very short example of the difference in other sources like the KC Star or Chiefs.com and what Bob has written.

    The others this summer have said Bowe has looked good this camp (which doesn’t really say much) but only Gretz has talked during this camp about how Bowe looks to be in the best shape of his career and is finally both looking and acting like a true professional, how he is running more precise routes and hanging onto the ball.

    Gretz was the one that has broken news on here about bad things that have happened in Chiefs upper personnel being fired, etc. before the KC Star or anyone else ever printed a whisper.

    I will say that its possible that not everything that Bob writes will interest you, you may only want to know about the players and Bob covers everyone in the Chiefs world so at times you may feel ‘I didn’t need to know that’ so it may or may not be for you but whatever he does he does it ‘in depth’.

    One other thing I know is that whatever Bob writes will be what he know’s and see’s that has happened and what he feel’s could happen as a result, if he see’s something he feels is bad or is sheds negative light on the Chiefs he won’t sugar coat it to make it sound better than what it really is like some are forced to do like on the Chiefs website where they only are allowed to tell you certain things and make the Chiefs look as good as possible regardless how ugly it really was.

    The recent Baldwin/Jones fight is a great example of that.

    I have been a Chiefs fan since when they moved from Dallas to KC, I never sat in the old downtown stadium but I sat for years in Arrowhead in the 70s, 80′s and 90′s and I grew up in Kansas so I am a long time Chiefs fan telling you this.

  • August 23, 2011  - TRUEGRIT says:

    Kenneth, thanks so much for the “friendly” reply, it’s refreshing after reading a couple other unfriendly posters.

    I have been thinking that maybe I have not made myself clear in what I am looking for. I read Bob fairly regularly but I have not subscribed to his premium service and simply wanted to know if it is just more of the same or if he brings something new and different to the paying crowd that is actually worth paying for.

    I asked for a couple examples of what one can expect if they pay for the service that is different than what’s available all over the net. Sounds simple right? Instead I get attacked by some yahoo’s who think ‘I’ am trying to be a trouble maker. I just don’t get it but I want nothing to do with those kind of people.

    If you can give me a couple examples of premium content that is not available elsewhere, please let me know.

    Again, thanks for your kind and friendly reply.


  • August 24, 2011  - Brandon Hurr says:

    Well I upped again. I appreciated Bob’s summaries and insight during last year’s season so it was an easy decision this year.

  • August 24, 2011  - bhive01 says:

    P.S. I read ArrowheadPride too and I think it’s a bit harsh to say that they cover the media who cover the Chiefs. The aggregation is actually really useful because they often fill in some holes with sites that I don’t usually read. In addition to that though, there is quite a lot of editorial stuff that comes mainly from the hardcore fanbase and the editors (Chris/Joel), which are often very good reads.

    Bob, I know you are trying to justify people paying for your content and that AP was specifically mentioned, but I’m not sure that your retort was necessarily accurate.

  • August 24, 2011  - Jesse says:

    TrueGrit – not sure why exactly you got blasted for asking a reasonable question. Here’s some stuff that gets posted that you probably haven’t seen so far:

    1.) Videos of Chiefs glory days. Bob has a correspondent (I think he’s in Mexico?) who posts videos – some recent, many from past days. They’re kind of fun.

    2.) Great post game analysis – what went wrong, why, who’s to blame, etc. There’s at least 4-5 separate articles analyzing the game posted that evening or the next day.

    3.) Very detailed game day info. I live in TN and emailed Bob asking if he could post info. on the stadium atmosphere – how empty or full the stadium was, how raucous the crowd, did the crowd contribute to opponent false starts, etc. Bob promptly started posting that information. Not sure you’ll find other sites willing to tailor their content to readers’ requests.

    4.) The stats. I haven’t seen anyone else break down the Chiefs’ stats like Bob does to give you a real look at what’s going on. Anyone can give you an opinion of what they think is going on. When you back it up with detailed, logical stats, it validates the opinion.

    Truegrit, I hope you’ll take the $25 gamble and see for yourself. I don’t think you’ll feel cheated.

  • August 24, 2011  - Jesse says:

    Well duh – don’t know why any of us didn’t think of this. For those of you who are wondering what in season coverage from Bob looks like: apparently the archives are open until Sept. Click on November 2010 and you’ll see what the “premium coverage” consists of.

  • August 24, 2011  - David says:

    Truegrit – the difference between Bob and the radio/newspaper guys is that Bob has an in-depth knowledge of the game that shows in his writing and analysis. When he says someone is performing well or badly at training camp, he understands what he’s looking at, and explains it well. When he writes about a game, he breaks it down clearly and intelligently. The only comparable level of expertise I’ve seen is Richard Baldinger’s commentary on Metro Sports, but his appearances are few and far between.

  • August 24, 2011  - TRUEGRIT says:

    Jesse, Bob could not ask for better help than what you have done. Thanks for the brilliant feedback. I will check out the archives and I suspect you have earned yourself at least one subscription discount.

    If I sign up I will be sure to let Bob know that you have been most helpful and that he has some friendly, helpful followers. It’s too bad he has a few sphincters too. I suspect they may have cost Bob some subscribers with their asinine posting.

    To everyone else who offered some friendly help I thank you too.

  • August 26, 2011  - ITSAJOKE says:

    Bob, pretty funny that you are accusing Josh Looney of being a shill for the Chiefs when afterall, you made a living for years by shilling for Newman and Peterson and the Chiefs. This seems to be a pot 0′ fatboy calling the kettle black

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