A Post With Notes Of All Sorts

Here’s a thought or two about a thing or three in the world of the Chiefs, pro football, bounties, the Peyton Chase and Tuesday’s official start of the 2012 NFL season.



It’s become quite an interesting development that when the Chiefs release a player these days, there’s a very good chance his next employer will be the San Diego Chargers.

That happened late in the 2011 season when they dumped OT Jared Gaither – he went on to become a starter for the Chargers by the time they closed up shop for the regular season.

And now the Chiefs made a move earlier this week and dumped ILB Demorrio Williams. It took him all of 48 hours to sign with the San Diego Chargers.

Although they picked up a salary cap savings of $1.7 million in releasing Williams, that’s not why he got the heave-ho; there simply were not going to be enough practice snaps in the K.C. defense once training camp started for Williams.

Last season, Williams saw the field for just 73 plays on defense. The season before that, he played 145 snaps of defense. That combined total of 218 plays in two seasons was far less than the 733 plays he had during the 2009 season, when he was the starter at inside linebacker ahead of Derrick Johnson.

The Peterson regime signed Williams as a UFA before the 2008 season with the idea that he would provide depth at the linebacker position because he came out of four years in Atlanta able to play both middle linebacker and outside linebacker. He was never viewed as a guy that would start many games.

But in four years with the Chiefs, Williams played in 60 games over four seasons, with 22 starts. He had 2237 total tackles, one sack, one forced fumble and a recovered fumble. He also had 32 tackles in the kicking game.



Meanwhile, the Chiefs have shown an interest in salary cap casualty DE Luis Castillo. He has battled injuries the last couple seasons and while the Chargers want him back, they did not want to pay him at $1 million roster bonus this month or his $3.9 million base salary.

A former first-round draft choice, if Castillo’s healthy he’d be a nice addition to the depth along the defensive line. He’ll be 29 in July and has played in 82 games with the Chargers, recording 32 sacks. He suffered a broken left tibia in the first game of the season and spent the rest of the year on the injured reserve list.



Congratulations to Lamonte Winston, former Chiefs employee under Carl Peterson. He was hired last week as the new director of player engagement for the Oakland Raiders.

Player engagement? It’s the new fancy title in the league for those who work with players on transitioning to life after their time in the game is over. During 17 seasons with the Chiefs, Winston helped create one of the best player development programs in league. In fact, the league annually recognizes the NFL’s best player development director with the Winston/Shell Award, named in honor of Lamonte and former Pittsburgh safety Donnie Shell for their pioneering work in developing player programs.

Fired by the new Chiefs regime two years ago, Winston began work last week with new Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie.

Not only is he back working in his field, but Winston gets to go home – he grew up in the San Francisco Bay, attending Oakland’s Skyline High School.

The hiring of Lamonte Winston by the Raiders is not a good sign for Chiefs fans because it’s an indication the franchise is getting its act together and pulling away from the old methods of the late Al Davis.



The non-profit Parent Education and Advocacy Leadership Center in Pittsburgh will award on Saturday its first Inclusion Awards, recognizing the importance of having children, youth and adults with disabilities and health care needs participate fully in schools and the community.

One of those recipients will be Chiefs QB Tyler Palko. He will receive the Enduring Friendship Champions Award along with Chris McGough. These long time friends founded TC House Foundation in Imperial, PA, to provide resources to help young adults with Down syndrome achieve independence.

Palko was also talking on the Pittsburgh airwaves this past week and naturally he got a lot of questions about former Chiefs head coach Todd Haley, now the offensive coordinator of the Steelers.

“Todd will always have a special place in my heart because he was the first NFL coach that gave me an opportunity to put my hands underneath center and start an NFL game,” Palko told the folks at 93.7-FM. “We have a great relationship and I know that he’ll continue to do a great job.”

As one would expect, the questions for Palko turned to Haley’s sideline demeanor.

“Todd has a long track record of success in the NFL,” Palko said. “He’s very knowledgeable of football and all that stuff you see on TV is never what it seems. He’s a passionate guy. He’s from Pittsburgh and he grew up around football. Football is very important to him.”

15 Responses to “A Post With Notes Of All Sorts”

  • March 10, 2012  - cychief24 says:

    Thanks for the AFC West update Bob! I’m already glad I resigned for your site.

  • March 10, 2012  - txchief says:

    It’s amazing how “passionate” and “knowledgeable” everyone thinks Haley is. No one says he was a great coach or that he can work with or positively motivate others. However, it is nice to see that they have inclusion awards for QBs with diabilities;)

  • March 10, 2012  - cychief24 says:

    Palko is seriously the worst QB I have seen play for the Chiefs. Of course, I haven’t seen stanzi in a real game (hopefully won’t).
    Before those 2 it was Frank Seurer.

  • March 10, 2012  - johnfromfairfax says:

    C’mon txchief,
    You’ve gotta let go of your Haley hate. He coached us to the playoffs and then didn’t. Now he’s gone. He also got some of our best young players to begin realizing their potential and start to transform their game. You’re Kinda doing the same thing you complain about others doing with regard to Scotty and Junior. let it go. I promise you it’ll feel better. As far as the work outside football, as somebody who’s worked with individuals with disabilities, it’s great to hear Palko is doing a really good thing and I applaud his work. He may not have been our answer at QB but he’s showing he’s a good and decent human being capable of making an impact on those who need it. Good for him.

  • March 10, 2012  - johnfromwichita says:

    John, I think you’re right about Palko. He appeared to be a nice guy and I was happy to see him get a shot. I was sorry that the shot went into his foot. Not everyone is going to make it in the NFL and he had more chances than a lot of players. I hope him well in the future. Just not as a Chief.

  • March 11, 2012  - el cid says:

    Have to admit it is funny, in a warped way, Palko looked about as ill prepared to be a starting QB and Stanzi could not get a foot on the field, how bad would he have looked, brrrrrrrr. Still it is nice for him. There are enough bad guys in the NFL, a good one with few skills is an oddity.

  • March 11, 2012  - Rich Davis says:

    The Raiders will begin to show improvement in all phases of their game. If Manning is healthy and signs with the Broncos, Pioli better have 5 Star drafts and sign impactful free agents.

    This division is getting better and we can’t have quarterback as a weakness.

    It will be revealing to see how serious of an interest Manning has in the Chiefs. Revealing in that if he doesn’t visit we can conclude that the Chiefs front office isn’t appealing to the best in the game. Even if Manning doesn’t sign with Denver, he gave them his time and respect.

  • March 11, 2012  - ED J says:

    Why do fans think because Stanzi didnt start when Cassel went out and Palko got chance to start its some kind of indictment on how bad Stanzi is based on what we seen from Palko. I mean how about it just was head coach choice not to play him. I remember soon as Crennel was the coach Stanzi was immediately moved to the #2 spot. Brady played behind Michael Bishop and John Friez his rookie yr did that means he was awful Qb seeing that does guys are out the league. History tells us different now. Sometimes it has nothing to do with a guy skills sometimes certain coaches just trust a guy experience over another guy talent. Haley clearly felt Palko had couple yrs in the league and also had yr experience in offense so he just foolishlessly stuck with the guy. But him making that mistake didnt mean Stanzi couldnt play. I remember Bellichick saying in Brady 2nd season he outplayed Bledsoe in offseason and preseason but he went with the more experienced guy in Bledsoe. So hey it happens

  • March 11, 2012  - txchief says:

    Cid, I’m glad at leat one person can appreciate my warped sense of humor.

  • March 11, 2012  - el cid says:

    Speculation is fun but will not get you a lot a wins in the NFL. I bet Unitas, Dawson, Montana, and every QB in the the NFL was a backup at some point to someone who never amounted to anything. As for Stanzi, hope for the best because i believe he and Cassel are the QBs for the Chiefs.

    Rich, a lot of truth from my point of view. Add this, Mannings agent lives in KC, played for the “storied” Chiefs, and Manning, apparently, would not use the Chiefs as a bargaining chip. Talk about no respect for an organization.

  • March 11, 2012  - el cid says:

    Thanks tx, but when you have followed with all things Chiefs and remain a fan, warped is the only way to fly.

  • March 11, 2012  - ChuckXX says:

    I doubt if Orton or Palko will even be on the team for the upcoming season. Orton will get decent money as a starter someplace. And to bring Palko back would be just plain dumb.

  • March 11, 2012  - el cid says:

    Plako would be competition for Cassel, something Pioli wants, was there 2 years after all. Some off the street QB would not know the players or what we are building here. Palko would be at the right price and might get a shot.

  • March 11, 2012  - cychief24 says:

    I remember watching Mean Joe Greene pick Tom Condon up and throw him into Bumbling Bill the boob Kinney for a sack. Condon played in the dark days of our Chiefs before the Schottenheimer era.

    If you guys are going to blame Pioli for Manning not visiting then you need to blame the GM’s of 28 other teams he won’t visit. Maybe the thought of the Belichick/Pioli/Crennel Pats owning him for all but one year of his career is a turn of for Manning.

    Sorry edj- rookie QB’s play if they are good enough. stanzi couldn’t beat out Palko, enough said.

    I hope cid is joking about wanting Palko back. If you really mean it then kiss your credibility bye-bye. :)

  • March 11, 2012  - el cid says:

    cy, never had any credibility anyway. Comment was mostly tongue in cheek. But look who is out there and, doubt any of us think Pioli “wants” competition for Cassel. Palko fits the bill while Daboll evalutes the offense, then 2013 look out.

    Condon had a good career. One set of plays against “mean Joe” Greene might not present the best snapshot of Condon’s entire career.

    Dead on about Stanzi, unless you have an un-natural fondness for IS. LOL

    Lastly about Manning, really think NE or GB or any of the playoff winning teams are jumping on their GMs to grab at Manning. Add the teams who have their “QB of the future” already on roster. Not 28 teams he would fit with, they have an interest in, or not have a “better” plan in place. That is why we look his direction, When Cassel is your starting QB, a good GM would be turning over rocks trying to find better. Does not apply with Pioli, of course. Take Hunt at hs word and believe in Pioli’s GM abilties, but what Manning thinks of the Chief’s “offer” will be more telling.

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