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A Different D.T. Story

The good folks at the Arrowheadpride.com website asked me for a memory of Derrick Thomas to run on their site this weekend. Here’s what I sent them.

I saw every one of Derrick Thomas’ sacks, every one of his forced fumbles, every one of his safeties, recovered fumbles and touchdowns. D.T. was a remarkable defensive force in the game every time he stepped on the field. There have been very few defensive players who could change the course of a game. That was Derrick Thomas the player.

But there was so much more to Derrick than that and there are so many moments off the field were D.T. also left memories. One came in the 1992 off-season.

At the time, I was doing a morning radio show on KCFX with comedian/author/bon vivant David Naster. We booked an author for an in-studio appearance. Her name was Jean Hill and she had been the subject of a book JFK: The Last Dissenting Witness. She and the book’s author were scheduled to be in studio one morning.

Jean Hill had been in Dealey Plaza in Dallas on November 22, 1963. She was just 21 feet away from President John Kennedy when he was shot. Hill is visible in the Zapruder film as the woman wearing a red rain coat. That’s her wearing the red coat in this picture (right) taken from behind.

She said emphatically from the start that the shots at JFK came from the area that has become known as the “grassy knoll” not from the upper floors of the Texas Schoolbook Depository Building.

In the years after the assassination, Hill faded from public view. Many others in the Plaza that day died under unusual circumstances and her comments were in direct contradiction to the conclusions issued by the Warren Commission. She said she did not want the attention and feared for her life.

Eventually, she was convinced to tell her story.

She also became one of the major sources of information for director Oliver Stone in the making of his movie JFK. Whether you believed her story or not, she was standing there in Dallas just feet away from the stricken President.

When it came to the JFK and his death, few people were more informed, were more studied on the matter than Derrick Thomas. He had every book written about the subject and there have been hundreds. He had every documentary done on that day, and there have been dozens. He had visited Dealey Plaza. He had talked to others who were part of that day, both before and after the shooting. When it came to all the theories on what happened, he could discuss them all, poke holes in them, or provide supportive information.

D.T. was perfect to have with us that morning to talk with Jean Hill. I approached him one day during the off-season at Arrowhead and told him that she was going to be our guest and that I wanted him to be there. His eyes lit up and he said absolutely, what time? When I told him 7:30 a.m., the smile left his face.

(Pictured left: From the Zapruder film, Jean Hill in her red coat is standing next to her friend Mary Moorman.)

“Ah Gretz, why don’t you get an afternoon show?” he said. “Damn, I’ll be there.”

Understand that D.T. was not a morning person. Actually he hated mornings. He was also perpetually late. I walked away and figured there was no way he would show up on time and little chance that he would show up at all.

The appointed morning came. A few minutes before the appointed moment, our phone rang in the studio from the security desk downstairs. It was D.T.

He showed up in the studio wearing a suit and the look of a man who had not yet been to bed. Turns out he had not slept. No, he had not been partying. He had been working.

At the time, D.T. had bought a limousine and set up a limo service. The night before he had a reservation for the car, but at the last minute his driver had to back out of the assignment. So being the owner, D.T. became the driver. He threw on a suit, grabbed the keys and took care of the fare. It was a bachelor party that started in Kansas City, made its way to Lawrence and Topeka and then back to Kansas City. He dropped off his last passenger and came right to the studios.

Jean Hill showed up a few minutes later and before any of us knew it, she and Derrick were conversing on the air about the assassination. Hill was amazed at D.T.’s depth of knowledge and he reveled in the opportunity to pick the brain of someone who had been on the spot.

To this day, I’m not sure how it sounded on the air, if it was entertaining, or made sense. But I was fascinated. Just watching a young man like Thomas talking with a woman who was a senior citizen about one of the biggest news events of the century was surreal.

Like so many moments involving Derrick Thomas, I can’t help but smile at the memory


12 Responses to “A Different D.T. Story”

  • August 8, 2009  - Will H. says:

    That’s an awesome story…thanks for sharing.


  • August 8, 2009  - DON"T TEASE US! says:

    There has to be an archive of your show at the station, right? I only ask because it would be amazing if you could get us an mp3 of that show – sounds like timeless stuff. Also, what was Derrick’s opinion on the subject, namely, skeptic, supporter of theories, or somewhere in between?


  • August 8, 2009  - Johnfromfairfax says:

    Wow! Thanks Bob for another great story. It’s a great day to be a Chiefs Fan! Enjoy!


  • August 8, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Jean Hill. She was there. Lady in red. The grassy knoll. 1963. Dallas, Texas.

    :cool: daddy-o


  • August 8, 2009  - Anonymous says:

    1963 in school 7th grade let school out early . Went home turned TV on & watch it tell the funeral. Sad day for America I felt we wouldn’t have had to server in Nam if JFK had lived . That is how history is made……… should-of could-of.


  • August 8, 2009  - Johnfromfairfax says:

    Moving ceremony at the HOF induction. I did okay until I saw Marty. if that didn’t choke you up you’re not a DT or Chiefs fan. Carl Peterson gave an excellent speech and it was good to hear him give Bob props. A wonderful night for all.


  • August 8, 2009  - KCFreek says:

    Hello everyone, love your site Bob, I’ll be 46 November 23rd my mom went into labor around 10 AM Utah time. Needless to say everyone was crying when I was born. I hate to say this but I remember crying when I heard Derrick Thomas had died, I remember pictures of him smiling in a wheelchair and hoped he was on his way to better days and was shocked when I heard the news that he had pasted. But tomorrow these tears will be of Joy!!!!!!!!! Finally


  • August 8, 2009  - Blazer383 says:

    Yep John, Marty was what did it for me too. Having became a fan the year Derrick came out, he’ll always be the Head Chief for me.


  • August 8, 2009  - Jody says:

    Good story Robert. Way before my time but I too am fascinated.


  • August 9, 2009  - Tracy says:

    Great post, Bob. Oliver Stone recently recommended a book–JFK and the unspeakable: Why he died and why it matters–about the assassination. Haven’t read it yet but apparently DT would have been up on it.
    These little known sides of DT make his early death all the more painful.


  • August 9, 2009  - Rin Tin Tin says:

    Mannlicher-Carcano. Boxes. The Stairs. Lunchroom. Flight. JD Tippit. Texas Theater. Scuffle. Cuffed.

    :cool: daddy-o


  • August 10, 2009  - Tim Ul says:

    hi bob, great article. I can remember meeting DT for the first time when i was in the 7th grade. We were at the driving range at the bottom of 40 hwy just between Blue Springs and Indepedence. We were hitting a bucket of balls as kids and up stroll DT. He couldn’t hit a golf ball to save his life, but we had a blast talking to him and getting his autograph. I still have it…




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