Comments on: Tuesday Cup O’Chiefs http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html Dedicated to providing the best coverage of the Kansas City Chiefs. News, commentary, reports, and exclusive inside information - daily! Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:41:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: alan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-31554 alan Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:58:24 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-31554 i have been a cheifs fan all my life even through the 70s but their is no way you can convince me that this so called team even wants or is trying to improve as a team why would anybody want to be identifed as being a part of this bad joke of a team i have sean 5th graders play better ball than this team is capable of playing in all the sports ive played if u played like this team, you were put on the bench or told to stay home i am very embarast to live in kc because of this team to say they are a joke does not even come close to how bad they are last years detroit team would have no trouble getting a win against theis no talent joke of benchwarmers most teams would not have them on their team so go get somebody that can play the game i have been a cheifs fan all my life even through the 70s but their is no way you can convince me that this so called team even wants or is trying to improve as a team why would anybody want to be identifed as being a part of this bad joke of a team i have sean 5th graders play better ball than this team is capable of playing in all the sports ive played if u played like this team,
you were put on the bench or told to stay home i am very embarast to live in kc because of this team to say they are a joke does not even come close to how bad they are last years detroit team would have no trouble getting a win against theis no talent joke of benchwarmers most teams would not have them on their team so go get somebody that can play the game

]]> By: Steve C http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20823 Steve C Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:08:14 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20823 I am a huge gun fan, I no longer hunt but I do take part in competitive shooting events and find them very entertaining. It is a sport just like football only it allows people of all ages, skill levels and abilities to participate. The fact that it makes an older, smaller person quite capable of defending themself in nearly any given situation has some attraction as well. I will say that story left no doubt in my mind that it was anti gun and blaming guns for the deaths and not the people who pulled the trigger. If I was inclined to kill someone a gun would probably be my last choice, too easy to link you with it. Edged weapons require an intimacy with the vic that makes it more difficult for some but good stabbings are more fatal on a percentage basis than shootings. Bombs have more potential for collateral damage but if you want the person dead bad enough the chance of taking out an extra person or two should not bother you much, same with fire. A sedative in your cocktail can be arranged by someone you are intimate with. Face it there is a million ways to die this is just one of them. Steve made a bad decision, they speculate that he was shot while sleeping, she could have just as easily slit his throat and he would have died nearly as quickly. The gun was not the problem in this situation it was merely the tool used. I am a huge gun fan, I no longer hunt but I do take part in competitive shooting events and find them very entertaining. It is a sport just like football only it allows people of all ages, skill levels and abilities to participate. The fact that it makes an older, smaller person quite capable of defending themself in nearly any given situation has some attraction as well. I will say that story left no doubt in my mind that it was anti gun and blaming guns for the deaths and not the people who pulled the trigger. If I was inclined to kill someone a gun would probably be my last choice, too easy to link you with it. Edged weapons require an intimacy with the vic that makes it more difficult for some but good stabbings are more fatal on a percentage basis than shootings. Bombs have more potential for collateral damage but if you want the person dead bad enough the chance of taking out an extra person or two should not bother you much, same with fire. A sedative in your cocktail can be arranged by someone you are intimate with. Face it there is a million ways to die this is just one of them.
Steve made a bad decision, they speculate that he was shot while sleeping, she could have just as easily slit his throat and he would have died nearly as quickly. The gun was not the problem in this situation it was merely the tool used.

]]> By: colby http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20804 colby Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:42:30 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20804 Similar still, to the way others pay my mother for "it" on a regular basis. :-) Similar still, to the way others pay my mother for “it” on a regular basis.

:-)

]]> By: alex k http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20803 alex k Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:41:49 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20803 Similar still, to the way others pay my mother for "it" on a regular basis. :-) Similar still, to the way others pay my mother for “it” on a regular basis.

:-)

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20789 Rin Tin Tin Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:12:47 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20789 Similar still, to the way others pay my mother for "it" on a regular basis. :) Similar still, to the way others pay my mother for “it” on a regular basis.

:)

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20724 Rin Tin Tin Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:22:11 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20724 You do as the others - (pay for it) everyday! :-) You do as the others – (pay for it) everyday!

:-)

]]> By: Harold C. http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20703 Harold C. Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:05:32 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20703 No offense taken colby. And as for you Rin.....the only problem I see with your pay idea is I don't think anyone would want to pay to come in here and read your posts. No offense taken colby.

And as for you Rin…..the only problem I see with your pay idea is I don’t think anyone would want to pay to come in here and read your posts.

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20693 Rin Tin Tin Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:34:49 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20693 I real Rin agree with legitimizing this username system used herein. So many folks want nee long to be real Rin- I can understand that, yet while many would try but one is/was chosen - real Rin - I that is He, that'd be me...heh heh heh. A nominal $ fee too wouldst & willst Rin pay for the privilege of continuing His compelling takes on all things football & too life. That mine e'er faithful followers too would want it so is naught lost on anyone. As always Rin willst take no prisoners ... He is here to slay- er, 'stay', whatever system may be. :-) I real Rin agree with legitimizing this username system used herein. So many folks want nee long to be real Rin- I can understand that, yet while many would try but one is/was chosen – real Rin – I that is He, that’d be me…heh heh heh.

A nominal $ fee too wouldst & willst Rin pay for the privilege of continuing His compelling takes on all things football & too life. That mine e’er faithful followers too would want it so is naught lost on anyone.

As always Rin willst take no prisoners … He is here to slay- er, ’stay’, whatever system may be.

:-)

]]> By: colby http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20686 colby Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:07:35 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20686 No disrespect meant Harold C, I think what we have here is a classic case of a liberal vs a conservative. We probably won't change each others minds on an issue like this, but it's always a good thing for both sides to listen to the other point of view. No disrespect meant Harold C, I think what we have here is a classic case of a liberal vs a conservative. We probably won’t change each others minds on an issue like this, but it’s always a good thing for both sides to listen to the other point of view.

]]> By: Harold C. http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20677 Harold C. Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:20:05 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20677 Calm down people. Yes there are some jerks posting around here under false pretenses. Yes Bob sometimes writes articles that have little or nothing to do with the Chiefs. But....it's the off-season. Don't run away because of it. Bob has the best coverage of the Chiefs. Better by far than anyone out there....even the official site. It's unfortunate that we can't post under the honer system but clearly it doesn't work. If I could change one thing about this site I would establish a log-in system so that people could not post as anybody so easily. I don't come here to read the posts however. I come to read articles about the Chiefs. Everything else is extra. Calm down people. Yes there are some jerks posting around here under false pretenses. Yes Bob sometimes writes articles that have little or nothing to do with the Chiefs. But….it’s the off-season. Don’t run away because of it. Bob has the best coverage of the Chiefs. Better by far than anyone out there….even the official site. It’s unfortunate that we can’t post under the honer system but clearly it doesn’t work. If I could change one thing about this site I would establish a log-in system so that people could not post as anybody so easily. I don’t come here to read the posts however. I come to read articles about the Chiefs. Everything else is extra.

]]> By: DT58FAN http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20674 DT58FAN Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:30:16 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20674 Bob, I just got on your website for the last time. Quit with the bull crap and stick to football. I'm out. Bob,
I just got on your website for the last time. Quit with the bull crap and stick to football.
I’m out.

]]> By: devil dog 1976 http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20673 devil dog 1976 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:24:30 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20673 Colby I am with you this used to be fun to read and respond but wow what a pile of junk gets written here now. There appears to be a post from me above calling for Mr. P. and Mr. H. to be fired...not me. It is all about the TEAM..........and.......... The Right 53 (22) In Pioli I trust! Colby
I am with you this used to be fun to read and respond but wow what a pile of junk gets written here now. There appears to be a post from me above calling for Mr. P. and Mr. H. to be fired…not me.

It is all about the TEAM……….and……….
The Right 53 (22)
In Pioli I trust!

]]> By: Harold C. http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20671 Harold C. Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:14:05 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20671 colby says "Wow. Really Harold? I really like your posts, but this is frightening. This is the kind of reasoning that, ignorant as it may be, allows tens of thousands of people to be slaughtered in our country. The fact that civilized nations like the UK, or Canada, or Sweden, or Japan, I could go on, all experience less than 500 gun related deaths a year while the US experiences 9,000-10,000 speaks volumes." Really colby.....where do you get those numbers? It's easy to throw out a bunch of numbers and it's easy to just take a persons word for it when they throw out these big statistical numbers but I am not one to buy into it so easily. Where did you get these numbers? Even if true...America has far more people in it than places like the UK...thus our numbers will be bigger. Whats even more scary is that you would entertain some of our freedoms being taken away and giving our government more power to control our lives. That is what is scary. Think about it....one of the first things an oppressive government that wants to control the lives of its people will want to do is make sure its citizens do not have weapons to potently fight back with. Now don't get me wrong....I'm not suggesting we go storm Washington with guns.....we so far still have a free country.....to a point. But you should be alarmed when you see the government taking over free businesses and taking steps that puts them in positions to make decisions for us.....like health care for example. We are headed down the road of an oppressive socialist government. Gun control would be one step toward that end. If you don't think so then you are clueless. colby says “Wow. Really Harold? I really like your posts, but this is frightening. This is the kind of reasoning that, ignorant as it may be, allows tens of thousands of people to be slaughtered in our country. The fact that civilized nations like the UK, or Canada, or Sweden, or Japan, I could go on, all experience less than 500 gun related deaths a year while the US experiences 9,000-10,000 speaks volumes.”

Really colby…..where do you get those numbers? It’s easy to throw out a bunch of numbers and it’s easy to just take a persons word for it when they throw out these big statistical numbers but I am not one to buy into it so easily. Where did you get these numbers? Even if true…America has far more people in it than places like the UK…thus our numbers will be bigger.

Whats even more scary is that you would entertain some of our freedoms being taken away and giving our government more power to control our lives. That is what is scary. Think about it….one of the first things an oppressive government that wants to control the lives of its people will want to do is make sure its citizens do not have weapons to potently fight back with. Now don’t get me wrong….I’m not suggesting we go storm Washington with guns…..we so far still have a free country…..to a point. But you should be alarmed when you see the government taking over free businesses and taking steps that puts them in positions to make decisions for us…..like health care for example. We are headed down the road of an oppressive socialist government. Gun control would be one step toward that end. If you don’t think so then you are clueless.

]]> By: SG http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20670 SG Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:13:01 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20670 "After reading the real Jorge and the real rin's rebuttal, I have to say: Jorge wins." Hopefully Jorge doesn't follow through on his promise to not return. Having 1 less Chief in the fold is never a good thing - whereas we are still graced with these "talented" impersonators. “After reading the real Jorge and the real rin’s rebuttal, I have to say: Jorge wins.”

Hopefully Jorge doesn’t follow through on his promise to not return. Having 1 less Chief in the fold is never a good thing – whereas we are still graced with these “talented” impersonators.

]]> By: SG http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20669 SG Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:09:39 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20669 "Bob, it's not that hard to set up a system where we have user names." Constructive idea. “Bob, it’s not that hard to set up a system where we have user names.”

Constructive idea.

]]> By: ILChiefsFan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20664 ILChiefsFan Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:41:10 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20664 You'll have to pry Dave's Caps Lock key from his cold, dead hands as well. You’ll have to pry Dave’s Caps Lock key from his cold, dead hands as well.

]]> By: DAVE. H. http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20663 DAVE. H. Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:37:33 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20663 yOU CAN HAVE MY GUN GUN WHEN YOU PRY IT FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS, THANKS FOR RUINING YOUR WEBSITE BOB! yOU CAN HAVE MY GUN GUN WHEN YOU PRY IT FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS, THANKS FOR RUINING YOUR WEBSITE BOB!

]]> By: colby http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20662 colby Wed, 08 Jul 2009 05:11:22 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20662 Bob, it's not that hard to set up a system where we have user names. I for one have been frequenting the site a bit less lately as a result of all of this nonsense on the forums. If you set up a user name system that required an email, you could send us email updates, which in turn, could potentially generate more ad revenue power for your site. Plus, it's the offseason. Camp hasn't started yet, it would be the perfect time for you to dedicate some time to this subject. Bob, it’s not that hard to set up a system where we have user names. I for one have been frequenting the site a bit less lately as a result of all of this nonsense on the forums. If you set up a user name system that required an email, you could send us email updates, which in turn, could potentially generate more ad revenue power for your site.

Plus, it’s the offseason. Camp hasn’t started yet, it would be the perfect time for you to dedicate some time to this subject.

]]> By: Mark http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20661 Mark Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:16:07 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20661 I wonder if those attacking Bob for a supposed political view would be praising him if his view was leaning the other way? Bravo Bob. It's your blog and if you want to give your opinion about something in the news, concerning NFL Football if not the Chiefs, during a lull in the Offseason, more power to you. I do agree with Jorge though. The fake posting and ego stroking is way beyond control, and as a blog with your name attached, it would be nice if you took some steps to alleviate it, such as regristration, valid E-mail addresses,etc. I wonder if those attacking Bob for a supposed political view would be praising him if his view was leaning the other way? Bravo Bob. It’s your blog and if you want to give your opinion about something in the news, concerning NFL Football if not the Chiefs, during a lull in the Offseason, more power to you.
I do agree with Jorge though. The fake posting and ego stroking is way beyond control, and as a blog with your name attached, it would be nice if you took some steps to alleviate it, such as regristration, valid E-mail addresses,etc.

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20660 Jim Lloyd+ Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:13:38 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20660 I was there so I know based on my own involvement. I was there so I know based on my own involvement.

]]> By: Jim Lloyd+ http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20659 Jim Lloyd+ Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:05:19 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20659 Steve Deberg knocked up the Easter Bunnie, Rin--were yoall involed in any of this here slip on who really did what???????-? Or were you just spanking someone for not doing a request. Steve Deberg knocked up the Easter Bunnie, Rin–were yoall involed in any of this here slip on who really did what???????-?
Or were you just spanking someone for not doing a request.

]]> By: Jorge http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20658 Jorge Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:01:42 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20658 I apologize for my stupidity as well as for Anonymous. I apologize for my stupidity as well as for Anonymous.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20657 Anonymous Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:57:39 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20657 After reading the real Jorge and the real rin's rebuttal, I have to say: Jorge wins. After reading the real Jorge and the real rin’s rebuttal, I have to say: Jorge wins.

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20656 Rin Tin Tin Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:54:50 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20656 (PS) Fake Rin, Jorge is looking for you - or is it, you're looking for Jorge - and finding him, in your mirror, daily? heh heh heh :-) (PS) Fake Rin, Jorge is looking for you – or is it, you’re looking for Jorge – and finding him, in your mirror, daily?

heh heh heh

:-)

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20655 Rin Tin Tin Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:45:14 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20655 And yet another fake Rin ^ tribute to the real Rin He that be me... 2, 3, 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGJMYxEJDn8 Applause, adulation & frenzy for Rin Tin Tin! heh heh heh :-) And yet another fake Rin ^ tribute to the real Rin He that be me…

2, 3, 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGJMYxEJDn8

Applause, adulation & frenzy for Rin Tin Tin!

heh heh heh

:-)

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20654 Rin Tin Tin Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:45:00 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20654 Am I gay? http://www.quizrocket.com/gay-quiz/ Am I gay?

http://www.quizrocket.com/gay-quiz/

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin says: http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20653 Rin Tin Tin says: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:35:36 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20653 "- well, do what you can/are capable of- persevere at least. For how long have you lagged behind?" http://www.gay-test.com/ “- well, do what you can/are capable of- persevere at least. For how long have you lagged behind?”

http://www.gay-test.com/

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20652 Rin Tin Tin Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:24:59 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20652 Cue yet another above ^ Elton John paraphrase - "Green eyes...fake Rin's got (HUGE) green eyes." heh heh heh :-) Cue yet another above ^ Elton John paraphrase – “Green eyes…fake Rin’s got (HUGE) green eyes.”

heh heh heh

:-)

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20651 Rin Tin Tin Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:59:08 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20651 http://www.gay-test.com/ http://www.gay-test.com/

]]> By: tm1946 http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20650 tm1946 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:21:15 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20650 Tony G just had a nice segment on Sportscenter. He made the Atl superbowl contenders, who would of thunk it. Not much ever said about the Chiefs, nothing new there. Tony G just had a nice segment on Sportscenter. He made the Atl superbowl contenders, who would of thunk it. Not much ever said about the Chiefs, nothing new there.

]]> By: tm1946 http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20649 tm1946 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:11:41 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20649 Goodness the insanity of it all, Bob, please make it stop. Goodness the insanity of it all, Bob, please make it stop.

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20648 Rin Tin Tin Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:37:24 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20648 Jorge says Real Rin here. I'd answer your angst-filled guilt-ridden pleas but you were obviously talking about & to all the many fake Rin's ... as such, I'm not qualified to answer. "For the record, I think it's pretty ridiculous when a sports forum such as this one does not screen any of the posts it receives." - yes...I can tell you what Bob G told me a long ago: just keep pointing out the imposters - it's my guess he has told others to do the same thing. What is interesting/more so 'telling' herein, is while there's much gnashing of teeth/wringing of hands regards those who would impersonate you or some other person for example, when tis the real Rin being imitated silence is the embrace... how very telling indeed. "One would think that people in charge of Bobgretz.com would monitor this forum to make sure that people stay on the topic on hand rather than using it as a tool to make themselves feel more important." - don't be so hard on yourself...some folks (Rin) are just more educated than others, possessing a wider fund of knowledge football & other subject matter. "right Rin?" - always...I thought I was wrong once but as it turned out twas just Hunt Jr. made the mistake, the period aft the end the 2008 season. "I don't blame the idiots that write such stupid posts. I blame Bob Gretz." - your inference that Bob G is somehow less than an idiot is one that Rin does not share with you and cannot embrace. "If he allows his name to be used, you would think he would make sure that the integrity of this site is held so that his name wouldn't be dragged into the column of the other low-lives who have nothing better to do...right Rin?" - again, you blame him in lieu of an idiot or several... "The post above using me name, is not mine. I for one am a fan of Haley and Pioli and am more than happy and interested to see what they will bring to the Chiefs this season." - pursuing one's folly is good, more power to you... "It's amazing when people have to use your name to get the validation they need to show others that you agree with them." - Rin knows only too well how a fandom His cannot but help themselves in adulation He ... imitation is the sincerest form of flattery as via blogging theirs Rin is affirmed daily... "That just means" - more so is it poetic justice - these imitators serve to but elevate the very genius of Rin they seek to bury. Mean? No. Envy? To be sure. "that they are not comfortable with who they are and can't allow anyone the space to think for themselves or even to just be who they are... right Rin?" - yes; what goes around, their own comeuppance... "I wouldn't be surprised if it is Rin" - yes, payback is hell... "who, one among many idiots, use other peoples names to blog under as amusement." - as you say, there be many idiots this blog so choosing 'the' biggest among them, wouldst be a daunting task... "With all this said, this will be the last time I post anything." - I know you claim you are leaving us - forever - but as Dionne Warwick sang - "promises promises", so too your hollow resolve likely...time will be the judge; best of luck in your endeavor, tho. "Not because people like Rin" - no, it's more than mere like - it's a love, a reverence more so... "try to get under your skin" - I am not a contortionist...merely genius. "but" - yes, go on then... "because this is not a forum about sports. Maybe it's about sports 40% of the time, but quite frankly, I don't have the time nor do I care to waste any of my time and energy" - time, care, more time and energy - all of which you took 5 (to this point) paragraphs to tell us you have not; an exercise in self-repudiation nee a lack of self-restraint, appears... "with people like Rin, or the people that think he/she is amusing. Right Rin? I deal with autistic and M.R. children everyday and when I am done working I do not care to deal with them on this site." - "Rin" - yes, I'm here friend - let it all out... "you are not special" - no, unique... "because" - God so loved the world he gave real Rin to the people therein. And you- "you" - yes you, how did you arrive here? "rode a special bus to school." - we know... "you are not special" - no... "because" - Rin was the chosen son as twere - you (as the sides a game be picked) were the last one left... "you found a safe pleasure in reading the work of classical poets and authors like Poe or Shakespeare." - nothing is more dangerous than a genius a Rin, Shakespeare or Poe et al running rampant through the fertile minds the uninitiated... "Just because you have found their writing as a way to communicate" - no, because as all great narratists/thinkers, larceny of thought is a vintage tack... "since you" - since always & e'er as those afore Shakespeare et al, and after as Rin influences same now this new generation... and you, what have you done in your own way nee sphere? "have been socially deficient" - well, do what you can/are capable of- persevere at least. For how long have you lagged behind? "for much of your life" - such devotion...you know, being stupid is not a crime it's staying said that's unforgivable. "does not" - yes, as you evidence it does make you special and- "make you special" - that's right earmuffs, and it also relegates nee forever makes you- "it makes you a FOLLOWER." - yes, foot soldier to a 'Pied Piper' as it were (2, 3, 4...) "What you are" - a savant, but you can call me Rin...and as is- "is" - yes, as 'is' the cae yours, you are? "a M.R. man-child, someone who is probably between the ages of 55-65, nothing more and nothing less." - such transparency...and forthrightness. "Any post here using my name" - only several that appear manufactured the minds doorknobs... "from" - well, we know from the reading said tis not a matter 'from Sharp minds come sharp products'... "here" - and there...most everywhere. "on" - clap on clap off, the Clapper... "out" - over and...Roger Wilco. "is not mine." - no, just fool's gold you claim title to... "Go Chiefs 2009!" - to the bottom of the AFC West! Great talking with you... bye. :-) Jorge says

Real Rin here. I’d answer your angst-filled guilt-ridden pleas but you were obviously talking about & to all the many fake Rin’s … as such, I’m not qualified to answer.

“For the record, I think it’s pretty ridiculous when a sports forum such as this one does not screen any of the posts it receives.”

- yes…I can tell you what Bob G told me a long ago: just keep pointing out the imposters – it’s my guess he has told others to do the same thing.

What is interesting/more so ‘telling’ herein, is while there’s much gnashing of teeth/wringing of hands regards those who would impersonate you or some other person for example, when tis the real Rin being imitated silence is the embrace… how very telling indeed.

“One would think that people in charge of Bobgretz.com would monitor this forum to make sure that people stay on the topic on hand rather than using it as a tool to make themselves feel more important.”

- don’t be so hard on yourself…some folks (Rin) are just more educated than others, possessing a wider fund of knowledge football & other subject matter.

“right Rin?”

- always…I thought I was wrong once but as it turned out twas just Hunt Jr. made the mistake, the period aft the end the 2008 season.

“I don’t blame the idiots that write such stupid posts. I blame Bob Gretz.”

- your inference that Bob G is somehow less than an idiot is one that Rin does not share with you and cannot embrace.

“If he allows his name to be used, you would think he would make sure that the integrity of this site is held so that his name wouldn’t be dragged into the column of the other low-lives who have nothing better to do…right Rin?”

- again, you blame him in lieu of an idiot or several…

“The post above using me name, is not mine. I for one am a fan of Haley and Pioli and am more than happy and interested to see what they will bring to the Chiefs this season.”

- pursuing one’s folly is good, more power to you…

“It’s amazing when people have to use your name to get the validation they need to show others that you agree with them.”

- Rin knows only too well how a fandom His cannot but help themselves in adulation He … imitation is the sincerest form of flattery as via blogging theirs Rin is affirmed daily…

“That just means”

- more so is it poetic justice – these imitators serve to but elevate the very genius of Rin they seek to bury. Mean? No. Envy? To be sure.

“that they are not comfortable with who they are and can’t allow anyone the space to think for themselves or even to just be who they are… right Rin?”

- yes; what goes around, their own comeuppance…

“I wouldn’t be surprised if it is Rin”

- yes, payback is hell…

“who, one among many idiots, use other peoples names to blog under as amusement.”

- as you say, there be many idiots this blog so choosing ‘the’ biggest among them, wouldst be a daunting task…

“With all this said, this will be the last time I post anything.”

- I know you claim you are leaving us – forever – but as Dionne Warwick sang – “promises promises”, so too your hollow resolve likely…time will be the judge; best of luck in your endeavor, tho.

“Not because people like Rin”

- no, it’s more than mere like – it’s a love, a reverence more so…

“try to get under your skin”

- I am not a contortionist…merely genius.

“but”

- yes, go on then…

“because this is not a forum about sports. Maybe it’s about sports 40% of the time, but quite frankly, I don’t have the time nor do I care to waste any of my time and energy”

- time, care, more time and energy – all of which you took 5 (to this point) paragraphs to tell us you have not; an exercise in self-repudiation nee a lack of self-restraint, appears…

“with people like Rin, or the people that think he/she is amusing. Right Rin?

I deal with autistic and M.R. children everyday and when I am done working I do not care to deal with them on this site.”

-

“Rin”

- yes, I’m here friend – let it all out…

“you are not special”

- no, unique…

“because”

- God so loved the world he gave real Rin to the people therein. And you-

“you”

- yes you, how did you arrive here?

“rode a special bus to school.”

- we know…

“you are not special”

- no…

“because”

- Rin was the chosen son as twere – you (as the sides a game be picked) were the last one left…

“you found a safe pleasure in reading the work of classical poets and authors like Poe or Shakespeare.”

- nothing is more dangerous than a genius a Rin, Shakespeare or Poe et al running rampant through the fertile minds the uninitiated…

“Just because you have found their writing as a way to communicate”

- no, because as all great narratists/thinkers, larceny of thought is a vintage tack…

“since you”

- since always & e’er as those afore Shakespeare et al, and after as Rin influences same now this new generation… and you, what have you done in your own way nee sphere?

“have been socially deficient”

- well, do what you can/are capable of- persevere at least. For how long have you lagged behind?

“for much of your life”

- such devotion…you know, being stupid is not a crime it’s staying said that’s unforgivable.

“does not”

- yes, as you evidence it does make you special and-

“make you special”

- that’s right earmuffs, and it also relegates nee forever makes you-

“it makes you a FOLLOWER.”

- yes, foot soldier to a ‘Pied Piper’ as it were (2, 3, 4…)

“What you are”

- a savant, but you can call me Rin…and as is-

“is”

- yes, as ‘is’ the cae yours, you are?

“a M.R. man-child, someone who is probably between the ages of 55-65, nothing more and nothing less.”

- such transparency…and forthrightness.

“Any post here using my name”

- only several that appear manufactured the minds doorknobs…

“from”

- well, we know from the reading said tis not a matter ‘from Sharp minds come sharp products’…

“here”

- and there…most everywhere.

“on”

- clap on clap off, the Clapper…

“out”

- over and…Roger Wilco.

“is not mine.”

- no, just fool’s gold you claim title to…

“Go Chiefs 2009!”

- to the bottom of the AFC West!

Great talking with you… bye.

:-)

]]> By: Bill in Neosho http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20647 Bill in Neosho Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:21:58 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20647 Thanks Bob for your great column but so what if people own guns . Peop;e kill people kill people guns get the blame . Thanks Thanks Bob for your great column but so what if people own guns . Peop;e kill people kill people guns get the blame . Thanks

]]> By: DaveS http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20646 DaveS Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:11:57 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20646 SG Wrote "FYI: I didn't come to sit around and read posts from people whining all day - especially about politics..." Neither did I SG, and for the record I understand it's the off season and there is not a new Chiefs story everyday...that's fine. But this article was obviously as much about gun control as it was about Steve McNair. Had it just been an article about the McNair tragedy that would have been fine..but it wasn't. BTW- Gretz sets the tone of the discussion after his article with what is in the article. I am on topic on this. Your question about the Cheifs schedule is fine, but it was not on topic with the article. The only real Chiefs news mentioned in the article was about LaMar Hunt. Not our 2009 schedule. SG Wrote “FYI: I didn’t come to sit around and read posts from people whining all day – especially about politics…”

Neither did I SG, and for the record I understand it’s the off season and there is not a new Chiefs story everyday…that’s fine. But this article was obviously as much about gun control as it was about Steve McNair. Had it just been an article about the McNair tragedy that would have been fine..but it wasn’t.

BTW- Gretz sets the tone of the discussion after his article with what is in the article. I am on topic on this. Your question about the Cheifs schedule is fine, but it was not on topic with the article. The only real Chiefs news mentioned in the article was about LaMar Hunt. Not our 2009 schedule.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20645 gorillafan Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:50:17 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20645 AMEN JORGE AMEN JORGE

]]> By: SG http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20644 SG Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:40:52 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20644 "Hey SG wake up!" FYI: I didn't come to sit around and read posts from people whining all day - especially about politics... Yawns...perhaps you didn't actually "see" the questions I posed. "Who do we see on the 2009 schedule that we have the greatest chance of upsetting who everyone else is presuming will be a loss? Why will we beat that team?" "...have the Chiefs shown anything of being able to put any kind of limitations on the production of Antonio Gates? That guy seems to light up the Chiefs every game..." “Hey SG wake up!”

FYI: I didn’t come to sit around and read posts from people whining all day – especially about politics…

Yawns…perhaps you didn’t actually “see” the questions I posed.

“Who do we see on the 2009 schedule that we have the greatest chance of upsetting who everyone else is presuming will be a loss? Why will we beat that team?”

“…have the Chiefs shown anything of being able to put any kind of limitations on the production of Antonio Gates? That guy seems to light up the Chiefs every game…”

]]> By: Fansince93 http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20643 Fansince93 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:17:27 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20643 Anyone else think that Chris Jones' post sounded a bit like Whitlock? Anyone else think that Chris Jones’ post sounded a bit like Whitlock?

]]> By: devildog 1976 http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20642 devildog 1976 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:04:01 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20642 I too agree with all the other bloggers that Pioli and Haley must be fired immediately. I too agree with all the other bloggers that Pioli and Haley must be fired immediately.

]]> By: Jorge http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20641 Jorge Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:57:37 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20641 One more thing: Steve DeBerg's tears can cure cancer. It's too bad he's never cried. One more thing: Steve DeBerg’s tears can cure cancer. It’s too bad he’s never cried.

]]> By: Jorge http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20640 Jorge Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:57:10 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20640 One other thing before I go. The real Rin is very intelligent and he offers many informed opinions whereas the several fakes who use his name prove that in fact Rin has gotten to them. Rin wins. Go Chiefs 2009! One other thing before I go. The real Rin is very intelligent and he offers many informed opinions whereas the several fakes who use his name prove that in fact Rin has gotten to them. Rin wins.

Go Chiefs 2009!

]]> By: Jorge http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20639 Jorge Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:51:58 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20639 For the record, I think it's pretty ridiculous when a sports forum such as this one does not screen any of the posts it receives. One would think that people in charge of Bobgretz.com would monitor this forum to make sure that people stay on the topic on hand rather than using it as a tool to make themselves feel more important...right Rin? I don't blame the idiots that write such stupid posts. I blame Bob Gretz. If he allows his name to be used, you would think he would make sure that the integrity of this site is held so that his name wouldn't be dragged into the column of the other low-lives who have nothing better to do...right Rin? The post above using me name, is not mine. I for one am a fan of Haley and Pioli and am more than happy and interested to see what they will bring to the Chiefs this season. It's amazing when people have to use your name to get the validation they need to show others that you agree with them. That just means that they are not comfortable with who they are and can't allow anyone the space to think for themselves or even to just be who they are...right Rin? I wouldn't be surprised if it is Rin who, one among many idiots, use other peoples names to blog under as amusement. With all this said, this will be the last time I post anything. Not because people like Rin try to get under your skin, but because this is not a forum about sports. Maybe it's about sports 40% of the time, but quite frankly, I don't have the time nor do I care to waste any of my time and energy with people like Rin, or the people that think he/she is amusing. Right Rin? I deal with autistic and M.R. children everyday and when I am done working I do not care to deal with them on this site. Rin, you are not special because you rode a special bus to school. You are not special because you found a safe pleasure in reading the work of classical poets and authors like Poe or Shakespeare. Just because you have found their writing as a way to communicate, since you have been socially deficient for much of your life, does not make you special, it makes you a FOLLOWER. What you are is a M.R. man-child, someone who is probably between the ages of 55-65, nothing more and nothing less. Any post here using my name from here on out is not mine. Go Chiefs 2009! For the record, I think it’s pretty ridiculous when a sports forum such as this one does not screen any of the posts it receives. One would think that people in charge of Bobgretz.com would monitor this forum to make sure that people stay on the topic on hand rather than using it as a tool to make themselves feel more important…right Rin?

I don’t blame the idiots that write such stupid posts. I blame Bob Gretz. If he allows his name to be used, you would think he would make sure that the integrity of this site is held so that his name wouldn’t be dragged into the column of the other low-lives who have nothing better to do…right Rin?

The post above using me name, is not mine. I for one am a fan of Haley and Pioli and am more than happy and interested to see what they will bring to the Chiefs this season. It’s amazing when people have to use your name to get the validation they need to show others that you agree with them. That just means that they are not comfortable with who they are and can’t allow anyone the space to think for themselves or even to just be who they are…right Rin?

I wouldn’t be surprised if it is Rin who, one among many idiots, use other peoples names to blog under as amusement.

With all this said, this will be the last time I post anything. Not because people like Rin try to get under your skin, but because this is not a forum about sports. Maybe it’s about sports 40% of the time, but quite frankly, I don’t have the time nor do I care to waste any of my time and energy with people like Rin, or the people that think he/she is amusing. Right Rin?

I deal with autistic and M.R. children everyday and when I am done working I do not care to deal with them on this site.

Rin, you are not special because you rode a special bus to school. You are not special because you found a safe pleasure in reading the work of classical poets and authors like Poe or Shakespeare. Just because you have found their writing as a way to communicate, since you have been socially deficient for much of your life, does not make you special, it makes you a FOLLOWER.

What you are is a M.R. man-child, someone who is probably between the ages of 55-65, nothing more and nothing less.

Any post here using my name from here on out is not mine.

Go Chiefs 2009!

]]> By: devildog 1976 http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20638 devildog 1976 Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:38:03 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20638 Rin Let me go on record as agreeing with you today, Steve DeBerg is the man. I remember him playing several games with that pin sticking out of a finger on his left hand, all bandaged up. He is tough as nails, no question about it. One last thought for now. The second amendment provides for the dummies to have guns too. Sad but true, there is no IQ test before the sale is final. It used to be as easy as buying a snickers bar to buy a hand gun, and rounds in the same day. Even now with the "waiting" period the dummies still get them. What would happen if we were ALL "packing"....... the wild west all over again. Rin
Let me go on record as agreeing with you today, Steve DeBerg is the man. I remember him playing several games with that pin sticking out of a finger on his left hand, all bandaged up. He is tough as nails, no question about it.

One last thought for now. The second amendment provides for the dummies to have guns too. Sad but true, there is no IQ test before the sale is final. It used to be as easy as buying a snickers bar to buy a hand gun, and rounds in the same day. Even now with the “waiting” period the dummies still get them. What would happen if we were ALL “packing”……. the wild west all over again.

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20637 Rin Tin Tin Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:02:51 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20637 King Kong once challenged Godzilla to an arm wrestling match. Steve DeBerg won. King Kong once challenged Godzilla to an arm wrestling match. Steve DeBerg won.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20636 gorillafan Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:00:48 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20636 I Agree is SG. This is the most slowest part of the season. Hes going outside of the box once in awhile, and i'm cool with that too!! I Agree is SG.

This is the most slowest part of the season. Hes going outside of the box once in awhile, and i’m cool with that too!!

]]> By: Chuck Norris http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20635 Chuck Norris Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:00:16 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20635 Even I am scared of Steve DeBerg's play-action passing. Even I am scared of Steve DeBerg’s play-action passing.

]]> By: Steve DeBerg http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20634 Steve DeBerg Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:59:22 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20634 Rin is right. I truely am the greatest quarterback ever. Who else do you know that had their best season as a pro with a broken pinky on their throwing hand? That's right baby. No one. Steve DeBerg 4 Life! Rin is right. I truely am the greatest quarterback ever. Who else do you know that had their best season as a pro with a broken pinky on their throwing hand?

That’s right baby. No one. Steve DeBerg 4 Life!

]]> By: DaveS http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20633 DaveS Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:55:18 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20633 Hey SG wake up! I didn't come on this board to have a political discussion. I would be happy to read information about the Chiefs. I have given Gretz credit several times when he writes good articles. Today wasn't it. Your defense of him leads me to wonder if SG isn't short for Sucking up to Gretz. Hey SG wake up! I didn’t come on this board to have a political discussion. I would be happy to read information about the Chiefs.

I have given Gretz credit several times when he writes good articles. Today wasn’t it.

Your defense of him leads me to wonder if SG isn’t short for Sucking up to Gretz.

]]> By: kevin B http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20632 kevin B Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:54:27 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20632 Whoever this fake Rin poster is, he is hilarious....ha ha ha Whoever this fake Rin poster is, he is hilarious….ha ha ha

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20631 Rin Tin Tin Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:36:10 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20631 STEVE DEBERG DOESN'T NEED A GUN, BECAUSE HE KILLS PEOPLE WITH THE AWESOMENESS OF HIS PLAY-ACTION PASS!!! STEVE DEBERG DOESN’T NEED A GUN, BECAUSE HE KILLS PEOPLE WITH THE AWESOMENESS OF HIS PLAY-ACTION PASS!!!

]]> By: SG http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-2#comment-20630 SG Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:10:35 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20630 "...bring out a gun control debate..." Speaking of that...have the Chiefs shown anything of being able to put any kind of limitations on the production of Antonio Gates? That guy seems to light up the Chiefs every game... “…bring out a gun control debate…”

Speaking of that…have the Chiefs shown anything of being able to put any kind of limitations on the production of Antonio Gates? That guy seems to light up the Chiefs every game…

]]> By: SG http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20629 SG Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:04:14 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20629 "DaveS says:" Nearly 70 words...all of it WHINING...and not even anything closely resembling a substantive response to the question I threw out there. That was the equivalent of the Chiefs having the worst defense in the league in 2008 and doing NOTHING to upgrade at any defensive position, saying "Herm's the man." “DaveS says:”

Nearly 70 words…all of it WHINING…and not even anything closely resembling a substantive response to the question I threw out there.

That was the equivalent of the Chiefs having the worst defense in the league in 2008 and doing NOTHING to upgrade at any defensive position, saying “Herm’s the man.”

]]> By: ILChiefsFan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20628 ILChiefsFan Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:58:58 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20628 As do the Jags. As do the Jags.

]]> By: DaveS http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20627 DaveS Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:58:19 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20627 "In case nobody read the entire article, there's some Chiefs stuff in there. If you want to talk Chiefs, quit whining about Bob's discussion about McNair and talk about the CHIEF things he did mention." This article was the equivalent of driving to a public fireworks display, getting there listening to 3 hours of political speech and then having the fireworks display consist of one bottlerocket. “In case nobody read the entire article, there’s some Chiefs stuff in there. If you want to talk Chiefs, quit whining about Bob’s discussion about McNair and talk about the CHIEF things he did mention.”

This article was the equivalent of driving to a public fireworks display, getting there listening to 3 hours of political speech and then having the fireworks display consist of one bottlerocket.

]]> By: ILChiefsFan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20626 ILChiefsFan Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:56:05 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20626 The Jag definitely look beatable. The Jag definitely look beatable.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20625 gorillafan Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:56:03 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20625 That came to mind, however most are daily blogrs. But the FAKE is now posting as EVERYONE. Maybe he needs a gun and shoot himself? HAHA That came to mind, however most are daily blogrs. But the FAKE is now posting as EVERYONE. Maybe he needs a gun and shoot himself? HAHA

]]> By: Gump http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20624 Gump Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:49:04 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20624 gorillafan, I've got a feeling that the whole row of those comments are from one person. IGNORE IT. gorillafan,
I’ve got a feeling that the whole row of those comments are from one person. IGNORE IT.

]]> By: SG http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20623 SG Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:47:42 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20623 ILChiefs, Sounds like reasonable analysis. I like the Chiefs beating the Jags - who will be on the rebound this year and seemed to handle us pretty good in recent past. With Fred Taylor gone as well as Barnes, Peterson, etc. I see them as very vulnerable. ILChiefs,

Sounds like reasonable analysis. I like the Chiefs beating the Jags – who will be on the rebound this year and seemed to handle us pretty good in recent past. With Fred Taylor gone as well as Barnes, Peterson, etc. I see them as very vulnerable.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20622 gorillafan Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:45:48 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20622 HALEY AND PIOLI MUST GO...... WHAT? RU F#@NG KIDDING ME. GET REAL!! HALEY AND PIOLI MUST GO……

WHAT?

RU F#@NG KIDDING ME. GET REAL!!

]]> By: Gump http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20621 Gump Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:37:02 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20621 I don't have a problem with Bob adressing an issue that has NFL ties if he feels the need. It shouldn't hurt anyone to open a dialog. I don't think it was his intention to bring out a gun control debate... What the hell, how about we talk abortion next. It' the off-season after all. I don’t have a problem with Bob adressing an issue that has NFL ties if he feels the need. It shouldn’t hurt anyone to open a dialog. I don’t think it was his intention to bring out a gun control debate…
What the hell, how about we talk abortion next. It’ the off-season after all.

]]> By: ILChiefsFan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20620 ILChiefsFan Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:36:25 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20620 SG, As I've said before, the Cowboys at Arrowhead looks like a winnable game to me. They'll need to get pressure on Romo, however. Conversely, given the way they ended last season, I think a lot of Chiefs fans are taking the Raiders too lightly. SG,

As I’ve said before, the Cowboys at Arrowhead looks like a winnable game to me. They’ll need to get pressure on Romo, however.

Conversely, given the way they ended last season, I think a lot of Chiefs fans are taking the Raiders too lightly.

]]> By: SG http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20619 SG Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:28:03 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20619 "Come on Gretz talk about Chiefs football stop with the political balony..." To EVERYONE: In case nobody read the entire article, there's some Chiefs stuff in there. If you want to talk Chiefs, quit whining about Bob's discussion about McNair and talk about the CHIEF things he did mention. We do have a visionary founding owner who is being recognized by HOF. Who do we see on the 2009 schedule that we have the greatest chance of upsetting who everyone else is presuming will be a loss? Why will we beat that team? “Come on Gretz talk about Chiefs football stop with the political balony…”

To EVERYONE:

In case nobody read the entire article, there’s some Chiefs stuff in there. If you want to talk Chiefs, quit whining about Bob’s discussion about McNair and talk about the CHIEF things he did mention.

We do have a visionary founding owner who is being recognized by HOF.

Who do we see on the 2009 schedule that we have the greatest chance of upsetting who everyone else is presuming will be a loss? Why will we beat that team?

]]> By: alex k http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20618 alex k Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:26:49 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20618 I too agree that Pioli and Haley must go. I too agree that Pioli and Haley must go.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20617 Anonymous Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:25:49 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20617 I agree. I agree.

]]> By: anonymous http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20616 anonymous Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:25:25 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20616 Count me in. Haley and Pioli must go. Count me in. Haley and Pioli must go.

]]> By: Jorge http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20615 Jorge Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:24:44 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20615 I also agree. Ban Pioli and Haley. I also agree. Ban Pioli and Haley.

]]> By: Scott http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20614 Scott Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:24:00 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20614 I agree with findthedr. I agree with findthedr.

]]> By: findthedr http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20613 findthedr Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:21:32 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20613 I think the government should ban Pioli and Haley as they are going to kill the Chiefs 2009 season. I think the government should ban Pioli and Haley as they are going to kill the Chiefs 2009 season.

]]> By: Dr Paul http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20612 Dr Paul Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:18:29 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20612 Donte Stallworth killed a man while driving drunk... Why would he need a car & booze, for that matter? Maybe we should make sure that all NFL players could never own a car or drink booze. Guns are good.. people are bad. Donte Stallworth killed a man while driving drunk… Why would he need a car & booze, for that matter?

Maybe we should make sure that all NFL players could never own a car or drink booze.

Guns are good.. people are bad.

]]> By: gorillafan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20611 gorillafan Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:16:03 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20611 Gun control is b.s. It just ruins it for people like me who hunt, fish, and enjoy sport shooting. I am a responsible person with mine. I carry one in my truck, not to kill, but to just have IN CASE, and yes DEFEND myself if needed, but probably will never have to. I also go to friends houses and we shoot for fun so I always carry some type of gun or bow with me, just for fun, and yes I live in the country and not in a major city, so that makes a difference. Atleast to me anyway. and as the saying goes.... "Guns dont kill people, people kill people" Gun control is b.s. It just ruins it for people like me who hunt, fish, and enjoy sport shooting.

I am a responsible person with mine. I carry one in my truck, not to kill, but to just have IN CASE, and yes DEFEND myself if needed, but probably will never have to. I also go to friends houses and we shoot for fun so I always carry some type of gun or bow with me, just for fun, and yes I live in the country and not in a major city, so that makes a difference. Atleast to me anyway.

and as the saying goes….

“Guns dont kill people, people kill people”

]]> By: kevin B http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20610 kevin B Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:11:55 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20610 Not to say that it's not sad and tragic when people make the wrong choices, but thats freedom. the freedom to choose allows us to forge our own path by the decisions we make Not to say that it’s not sad and tragic when people make the wrong choices, but thats freedom. the freedom to choose allows us to forge our own path by the decisions we make

]]> By: kevin B http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20609 kevin B Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:09:47 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20609 Colby you have a valid point. I disagree with you though. Isn't the American way about choice? Everything is up to you, choices and consequences. You choose your destiny, but no one is going to save you. People have a right to self defense from whatever is out there. If people choose to own guns and don't act responsibly, then they face the consequences of their decisions. I think you are taking rights if you dis allow handguns. Like the college kids in the Virginia Tech shooting. They were defenseless to protect their own lives. They however chose to be on an institution where guns are outlawed. I think people should have the right to "choose" gun ownership even thouse 9,500 more people in our country die due to ownership or having their family own guns. I think that's the American way. Human rights of choice, and with the choice the responsibility to shoulder our mistakes. We live and die by our own choices, not the choices of the government. Just like cigarettes. a free choice. It's poison and kills more people a year than suicide, homicide, and car accidents combined, but we have the right to choose. Colby you have a valid point. I disagree with you though. Isn’t the American way about choice? Everything is up to you, choices and consequences. You choose your destiny, but no one is going to save you.

People have a right to self defense from whatever is out there. If people choose to own guns and don’t act responsibly, then they face the consequences of their decisions. I think you are taking rights if you dis allow handguns. Like the college kids in the Virginia Tech shooting. They were defenseless to protect their own lives. They however chose to be on an institution where guns are outlawed.

I think people should have the right to “choose” gun ownership even thouse 9,500 more people in our country die due to ownership or having their family own guns. I think that’s the American way. Human rights of choice, and with the choice the responsibility to shoulder our mistakes. We live and die by our own choices, not the choices of the government. Just like cigarettes. a free choice. It’s poison and kills more people a year than suicide, homicide, and car accidents combined, but we have the right to choose.

]]> By: DaveS http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20608 DaveS Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:07:59 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20608 Bob if I wanted to read the Huffington Post I would go to that site. When I open your page and click on the "Cup of Chiefs" article I expect to read specifically about the Chiefs, of which there was very little of today. The Steve McNair situation is a tragedy and this article is something I would expect from Whitlock. Bob if I wanted to read the Huffington Post I would go to that site. When I open your page and click on the “Cup of Chiefs” article I expect to read specifically about the Chiefs, of which there was very little of today.

The Steve McNair situation is a tragedy and this article is something I would expect from Whitlock.

]]> By: B in SC http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20607 B in SC Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:05:11 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20607 I agree this was a tragedy, but as another post suggested, the incidents Bob cited (except one) were not the result of players possessing weapons. They probably did, but that wasn't the reason those incidents took place. While some have said Bob didn't take a position, I disagree. As with most press articles, it is the information that is presented as well as "how" it is presented that respresents the position of the author. Those incidents didn't really support his premise of players owning guns resulted in tragedies and the citing of the ridiculous "study" about suicides didn't either. A well done scientific study would never conclude that homes with guns result in a greater likelyhood of suicides. There is no way to conclude that those same individuals wouldn't commit suicide by another means. The gun was the tool, not the act. If the NFL wants to get tough, put a clause in every contract that states a player must repay bonus money, escalators, etc. if they are involved in any incidents involving a gun. I agree this was a tragedy, but as another post suggested, the incidents Bob cited (except one) were not the result of players possessing weapons. They probably did, but that wasn’t the reason those incidents took place. While some have said Bob didn’t take a position, I disagree. As with most press articles, it is the information that is presented as well as “how” it is presented that respresents the position of the author. Those incidents didn’t really support his premise of players owning guns resulted in tragedies and the citing of the ridiculous “study” about suicides didn’t either. A well done scientific study would never conclude that homes with guns result in a greater likelyhood of suicides. There is no way to conclude that those same individuals wouldn’t commit suicide by another means. The gun was the tool, not the act.

If the NFL wants to get tough, put a clause in every contract that states a player must repay bonus money, escalators, etc. if they are involved in any incidents involving a gun.

]]> By: ILChiefsFan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20606 ILChiefsFan Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:37:27 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20606 Agree 100% with your last comment, Colby. On the other hand, I HAVE known people who have misplaced guns (incredible, but true), had guns stolen from them, and, worst of all, had a family member kill themselves with a gun that was in the house. Pointless to argue, though. I have very reasonable friends who are gun owners and are not fazed by arguments such as yours. Agree 100% with your last comment, Colby. On the other hand, I HAVE known people who have misplaced guns (incredible, but true), had guns stolen from them, and, worst of all, had a family member kill themselves with a gun that was in the house.

Pointless to argue, though. I have very reasonable friends who are gun owners and are not fazed by arguments such as yours.

]]> By: colby http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20605 colby Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:24:11 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20605 In addition, and this is to everyone reading, how many of you, outside of any experience some of you may have had in the armed forces in combat, have actually used a gun in your life to fend off an attacker, or protect your property/family, or defend yourself against ANYTHING? Just a guess, but probably not too many. In addition, and this is to everyone reading, how many of you, outside of any experience some of you may have had in the armed forces in combat, have actually used a gun in your life to fend off an attacker, or protect your property/family, or defend yourself against ANYTHING? Just a guess, but probably not too many.

]]> By: colby http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20604 colby Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:20:31 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20604 "The government would have a harder time keeping us in line if we all had guns." Wow. Really Harold? I really like your posts, but this is frightening. This is the kind of reasoning that, ignorant as it may be, allows tens of thousands of people to be slaughtered in our country. The fact that civilized nations like the UK, or Canada, or Sweden, or Japan, I could go on, all experience less than 500 gun related deaths a year while the US experiences 9,000-10,000 speaks volumes. I don't think any of these nations are "mowing down" their citizens when they express frustration with their government. I'm not saying that outlawing private gun ownership ENTIRELY is the right idea, but we desperately need stronger laws and fewer rights in this department. Personally, I don't need you to protect me from the invisible invaders or government monsters that you think are going to overtake our country. I'll deal with it when it happens. Perhaps the US should outlaw small, easily hidden firearms like the handgun that killed McNair plus 5,000 other people this year alone, and allow you to keep your hunting rifle that you sit on your porch and shoot squirrels with every night. “The government would have a harder time keeping us in line if we all had guns.”

Wow. Really Harold? I really like your posts, but this is frightening. This is the kind of reasoning that, ignorant as it may be, allows tens of thousands of people to be slaughtered in our country. The fact that civilized nations like the UK, or Canada, or Sweden, or Japan, I could go on, all experience less than 500 gun related deaths a year while the US experiences 9,000-10,000 speaks volumes. I don’t think any of these nations are “mowing down” their citizens when they express frustration with their government. I’m not saying that outlawing private gun ownership ENTIRELY is the right idea, but we desperately need stronger laws and fewer rights in this department. Personally, I don’t need you to protect me from the invisible invaders or government monsters that you think are going to overtake our country. I’ll deal with it when it happens. Perhaps the US should outlaw small, easily hidden firearms like the handgun that killed McNair plus 5,000 other people this year alone, and allow you to keep your hunting rifle that you sit on your porch and shoot squirrels with every night.

]]> By: Jack Woods http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20603 Jack Woods Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:07:08 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20603 Come on Gretz talk about Chiefs football stop with the political balony you are great when you talk football but stop with the lecture stuff. Come on Gretz talk about Chiefs football stop with the political balony you are great when you talk football but stop with the lecture stuff.

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20602 Rin Tin Tin Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:58:58 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20602 Who needs guns when STEVE DEBERG is around?! Who needs guns when STEVE DEBERG is around?!

]]> By: Harold C. http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20601 Harold C. Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:32:37 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20601 If you read carefully you will find that Bob did not give us his opinion on gun ownership. He quoted other people....but he said he did not want to go there (us fans of course can't resist). You can read in-between the lines if you want but you are assuming what you conclude is the truth. If you read carefully you will find that Bob did not give us his opinion on gun ownership. He quoted other people….but he said he did not want to go there (us fans of course can’t resist). You can read in-between the lines if you want but you are assuming what you conclude is the truth.

]]> By: anom http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20600 anom Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:20:06 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20600 cut bob a break with what he writes, this man gives us free inside access to the KC chiefs(as inside as you can go especially with Pioli and Co)...I respect him for providing us with the information, I hope he never thinks that the fans dont listen or read his writing, because hes the only one with camp updates. cut bob a break with what he writes, this man gives us free inside access to the KC chiefs(as inside as you can go especially with Pioli and Co)…I respect him for providing us with the information, I hope he never thinks that the fans dont listen or read his writing, because hes the only one with camp updates.

]]> By: Harold C. http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20599 Harold C. Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:18:01 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20599 Oh yes...we must get rid of all privately owned guns in this county. They say it's because innocent people die in gun related accidents and others are being shot by criminals and others can't resist shooting themselves. Guns are to dangerous to allow in private hands they want us to believe. The real reason (that they don't want us to think about) is that if there is ever an uprising in this county because people have finally gotten alarmed enough about all our freedoms being taken away and they start protesting in the streets, then the government can send people in and mow the protesters down without anyone shooting back....kind of like Iran right now. The government would have a harder time keeping us in line if we all had guns. Oh yes…we must get rid of all privately owned guns in this county. They say it’s because innocent people die in gun related accidents and others are being shot by criminals and others can’t resist shooting themselves. Guns are to dangerous to allow in private hands they want us to believe. The real reason (that they don’t want us to think about) is that if there is ever an uprising in this county because people have finally gotten alarmed enough about all our freedoms being taken away and they start protesting in the streets, then the government can send people in and mow the protesters down without anyone shooting back….kind of like Iran right now. The government would have a harder time keeping us in line if we all had guns.

]]> By: anon http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20598 anon Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:17:50 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20598 All of the violence has ruined football, its made the security after games more intense. Back in the mid 90's, you could go to training camp, and talk to the players, now, they have to be careful, very very careful. 1994 I met Lincoln Kennedy his rookie year in Atlanta at their old practice facility. Other than Andre rison, every player was easy to spot, and speak with. andre i remember driving off with his badmoon plates, the fact that I saw the car from inside the facility shows just how far they go with security. the mcnair situation seems to be a tad different, very unfotunate that he ended up there, still married. All of the violence has ruined football, its made the security after games more intense. Back in the mid 90’s, you could go to training camp, and talk to the players, now, they have to be careful, very very careful. 1994 I met Lincoln Kennedy his rookie year in Atlanta at their old practice facility. Other than Andre rison, every player was easy to spot, and speak with. andre i remember driving off with his badmoon plates, the fact that I saw the car from inside the facility shows just how far they go with security.

the mcnair situation seems to be a tad different, very unfotunate that he ended up there, still married.

]]> By: ILChiefsFan http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20597 ILChiefsFan Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:11:13 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20597 Stiv says: Wow, didn't realize Bob was a liberal moron till today. Wow, most people who express that kind of sentiment usually can't spell "moron". Congrats, Stiv. Stiv says: Wow, didn’t realize Bob was a liberal moron till today.

Wow, most people who express that kind of sentiment usually can’t spell “moron”. Congrats, Stiv.

]]> By: Stiv http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20596 Stiv Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:43:21 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20596 Or mine same. Or mine same.

]]> By: Stiv http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20595 Stiv Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:37:18 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20595 Wow, didn't realize Bob was a liberal moron till today. This entry makes about as much sense as Rin's inane blatherings. Thumbs down! Wow, didn’t realize Bob was a liberal moron till today. This entry makes about as much sense as Rin’s inane blatherings. Thumbs down!

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20594 Rin Tin Tin Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:29:57 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20594 "& possibly my country." - yes... Rin will rest easier knowing this (the British are coming, the British are coming!) :-) “& possibly my country.”

- yes… Rin will rest easier knowing this (the British are coming, the British are coming!)

:-)

]]> By: SG http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20593 SG Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:24:17 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20593 "The Pro Football Hall of Fame announced on Monday that they would open the Lamar Hunt Super Bowl Gallery on August 8, the same day that Derrick Thomas will be inducted into the Hall." Very appropriate thing to do. Now - the Chiefs need to step up and honor his memory and vision by making large steps toward winning a few trophies that bear his name in the next few years. “The Pro Football Hall of Fame announced on Monday that they would open the Lamar Hunt Super Bowl Gallery on August 8, the same day that Derrick Thomas will be inducted into the Hall.”

Very appropriate thing to do. Now – the Chiefs need to step up and honor his memory and vision by making large steps toward winning a few trophies that bear his name in the next few years.

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20592 Rin Tin Tin Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:23:12 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20592 Cue yet another Elton John paraphrased 'fake' Rin lyric to said posts afore this one, tribute to He that is me real Rin Tin Tin, greatest blogger and football mind that ever lived: "Green eyes...fake Rin's got (HUGE) green eyes." And when you have them you know you 'really' have them...every day in every way they affirm He that is me. Keep those fake Rin tributes coming! heh heh heh! Now then, the 'Rin Master' (greater e'en than Zen) speaks: Bob G You gave 'hunting' nee 'hunters' a pass...what an archaic & totally superfluous endeavor that/they. - Why does an NFL player need a gun? - Indeed - why too a Dick Chaney? To take it a step further - why does anyone? For the same reason speed limits on roads in the USA are limited to 75 mph most every, yet automakers (have continued to) build automobiles that can/do top 200 mph or more - with government approval. Guns don't kill people, nor even bullets... no, lobbyi$t$ do, and convenience too, 'mong other. :-) Cue yet another Elton John paraphrased ‘fake’ Rin lyric to said posts afore this one, tribute to He that is me real Rin Tin Tin, greatest blogger and football mind that ever lived:

“Green eyes…fake Rin’s got (HUGE) green eyes.”

And when you have them you know you ‘really’ have them…every day in every way they affirm He that is me. Keep those fake Rin tributes coming!

heh heh heh!

Now then, the ‘Rin Master’ (greater e’en than Zen) speaks:

Bob G

You gave ‘hunting’ nee ‘hunters’ a pass…what an archaic & totally superfluous endeavor that/they.

- Why does an NFL player need a gun?

- Indeed – why too a Dick Chaney?

To take it a step further – why does anyone? For the same reason speed limits on roads in the USA are limited to 75 mph most every, yet automakers (have continued to) build automobiles that can/do top 200 mph or more – with government approval.

Guns don’t kill people, nor even bullets… no, lobbyi$t$ do, and convenience too, ‘mong other.

:-)

]]> By: jimbo http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20590 jimbo Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:14:53 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20590 The right to bear arms is & hopefully forever our constitutional right. We have all heard the debates on both sides of the issue. I will not go there. I own guns for many reasons, among them to protect my family & possibly my country. There are many lethal weapons in our society, some obvious, some not. The idea that the so called "do gooders" of the world want to dictate our personal rights make me ill. If I want a big cheeseburger with greasy fries & a cold beer, I want to be able to enjoy it! I'm sick & tired of the dirty looks & finger pointing that goes on in our society. Everything we eat,drink & breathe causes cancer, it's not good for you or shortens your life blah, blah, blah. I live in the greatest country in the history of mankind. Please, Please, Please, let me enjoy it MY WAY... The right to bear arms is & hopefully forever our constitutional right.
We have all heard the debates on both sides of the issue. I will not go there.
I own guns for many reasons, among them to protect my family & possibly my country. There are many lethal weapons in our society, some obvious, some not. The idea that the so called “do gooders” of the world want to dictate our personal rights make me ill.
If I want a big cheeseburger with greasy fries & a cold beer, I want to be able to enjoy it! I’m sick & tired of the dirty looks & finger pointing that goes on in our society. Everything we eat,drink & breathe causes cancer, it’s not good for you or shortens your life blah, blah, blah.
I live in the greatest country in the history of mankind. Please, Please, Please, let me enjoy it MY WAY…

]]> By: Harold C. http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20589 Harold C. Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:05:15 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20589 A real Rin Tin Tin is bad enough. Now we have to put up with fake ones? Please....enough already. A real Rin Tin Tin is bad enough. Now we have to put up with fake ones? Please….enough already.

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20588 Rin Tin Tin Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:17:07 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20588 And shame on all of you for not glorifying Steve DeBerg! And shame on all of you for not glorifying Steve DeBerg!

]]> By: Tim http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20587 Tim Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:09:27 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20587 Bob, all of these are tragedies for sure. I have to agree with many of the other posts that express the sentiment that your position is a little bit "off" here. Yes, by all accounts he was a great player, competitor, teammate, etc. BUT that was only part of the story. The rest of the story is that he WAS NOT a good role model on a personal level. Publically cheating on your wife isn't the behavior of a good role model. Amazing that I haven't heard much sadness expressed by Coach Fisher, the Titans organization, or anybody else,including you, for his wife. Shame on all of you for glorifying a game over his family. Bob, all of these are tragedies for sure. I have to agree with many of the other posts that express the sentiment that your position is a little bit “off” here. Yes, by all accounts he was a great player, competitor, teammate, etc. BUT that was only part of the story.

The rest of the story is that he WAS NOT a good role model on a personal level. Publically cheating on your wife isn’t the behavior of a good role model. Amazing that I haven’t heard much sadness expressed by Coach Fisher, the Titans organization, or anybody else,including you, for his wife.

Shame on all of you for glorifying a game over his family.

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20586 Rin Tin Tin Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:07:18 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20586 Forget Steve McNair! It's all about Steve DeBerg! Forget Steve McNair! It’s all about Steve DeBerg!

]]> By: aPauled http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20585 aPauled Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:37:39 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20585 Steve McNair died because he was screwing and lying to a troubled young lady. Not because of gun rights. The young lady could have stabbed him to death, run over him with the car McNair bought her, drugged him....and no one would be calling for those weapons to be banned. Make a hero out of McNair? Call him a victim? Sorry, to me the guy was playing a dangerous game and paid the ultimate price. His choice. His loss. Steve McNair died because he was screwing and lying to a troubled young lady. Not because of gun rights. The young lady could have stabbed him to death, run over him with the car McNair bought her, drugged him….and no one would be calling for those weapons to be banned.

Make a hero out of McNair? Call him a victim? Sorry, to me the guy was playing a dangerous game and paid the ultimate price. His choice. His loss.

]]> By: Tracy http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20584 Tracy Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:35:17 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20584 Jeff Fisher's comments about Steve McNair speak volumes about both men. Jeff Fisher’s comments about Steve McNair speak volumes about both men.

]]> By: Chris Jones http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20582 Chris Jones Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:26:16 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20582 Bob, You are the best sports writer we have. Don't spoil your excellent reputation by trying to be a moralist. You start your article with Lomas Brown's anecdotal quote that "Just about every guy I played with in the N.F.L. had a gun." You then list the NFL players that have been shot. You attempt to create the illusion that they were shot by or because of their guns. The fact is ONLY Plaxico Burress owned the firearm that was involved in the shooting. Playing loose with the facts in an attempt to create sympathy for your personal position is a form of dishonesty. Bob, please don't wallow in that kind of trash here. We already have plenty of that kind of annoyance in Kansas City's media. Please keep yourself above this kind of soap boxing again. Steve McNair's death is a tragedy and he is culpable for his part. As far as we know his hand gun had nothing to do with it. I am not a gun owner. I am in favor of legal, responsible gun ownership. If you want to moralize about McNair's death why aren't you beating the drum of why a married man was keeping company with some one not his wife? Chris Jones Bob,

You are the best sports writer we have. Don’t spoil your excellent reputation by trying to be a moralist.

You start your article with Lomas Brown’s anecdotal quote that “Just about every guy I played with in the N.F.L. had a gun.” You then list the NFL players that have been shot. You attempt to create the illusion that they were shot by or because of their guns. The fact is ONLY Plaxico Burress owned the firearm that was involved in the shooting.

Playing loose with the facts in an attempt to create sympathy for your personal position is a form of dishonesty. Bob, please don’t wallow in that kind of trash here. We already have plenty of that kind of annoyance in Kansas City’s media. Please keep yourself above this kind of soap boxing again.

Steve McNair’s death is a tragedy and he is culpable for his part. As far as we know his hand gun had nothing to do with it.

I am not a gun owner. I am in favor of legal, responsible gun ownership. If you want to moralize about McNair’s death why aren’t you beating the drum of why a married man was keeping company with some one not his wife?

Chris Jones

]]> By: findthedr http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20580 findthedr Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:04:10 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20580 From initial reports the gun that killed mcNair was not his own, and was purchased recently by his girlfriend. From initial reports the gun that killed mcNair was not his own, and was purchased recently by his girlfriend.

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20579 Rin Tin Tin Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:56:17 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20579 STEVE DEBERG IS A MAN'S MAN! STEVE DEBERG IS A MAN’S MAN!

]]> By: Harold C. http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20578 Harold C. Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:46:08 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20578 Everyone has to take responsibility for their actions. Carrying a gun is a huge responsibility. There is some risk involved. That is true about a lot of things though. Driving a car for instance. We all drive our cars not giving much thought about how dangerous it can be and what a huge responsibility we are taking on. Not only are our lives at risk but the people we are driving and all the people we pass on the streets. When we do things we should not be doing that can increase the risk a thousand fold....and it can be fatal....and it can devastate the ones we love and who love us. I am sorry for McNair's family. I don't know everything about this case but if what I think I know is right then his family are the victims here. McNair took the risk and he paid for it....but his family is still paying. Everyone has to take responsibility for their actions. Carrying a gun is a huge responsibility. There is some risk involved. That is true about a lot of things though. Driving a car for instance. We all drive our cars not giving much thought about how dangerous it can be and what a huge responsibility we are taking on. Not only are our lives at risk but the people we are driving and all the people we pass on the streets. When we do things we should not be doing that can increase the risk a thousand fold….and it can be fatal….and it can devastate the ones we love and who love us. I am sorry for McNair’s family. I don’t know everything about this case but if what I think I know is right then his family are the victims here. McNair took the risk and he paid for it….but his family is still paying.

]]> By: Rin Tin Tin http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/tuesday-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs.html/comment-page-1#comment-20577 Rin Tin Tin Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:16:45 +0000 http://www.bobgretz.com/?p=9357#comment-20577 Steve DeBerg for the HOF! Steve DeBerg for the HOF!

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