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		<title>By: Harold C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 12:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Pioli and Haley can turn us into contenders in one year....they deserve high praise.  If they can&#039;t do it in one year and we are mediocre at best this year...they certainly do NOT deserve our condemnation.  Yes we want to be contenders but we don&#039;t want to be one year wonders either.  Pioli and Haley are working to make us consistently good....not a flash in the pan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Pioli and Haley can turn us into contenders in one year&#8230;.they deserve high praise.  If they can&#8217;t do it in one year and we are mediocre at best this year&#8230;they certainly do NOT deserve our condemnation.  Yes we want to be contenders but we don&#8217;t want to be one year wonders either.  Pioli and Haley are working to make us consistently good&#8230;.not a flash in the pan.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haley/Pioli hasn&#039;t failed to get a return guy.  Herm failed, by bringing in vets that had severe injuries and weren&#039;t the same guys in Drummond and Sams, and gave them the jobs.  He also drafted a guy who was just too slow in K-Rob, who Pioli already showed what he thought of.  Haley is going to attempt to do it right, looking at young, FAST players, and may the best man win.  It&#039;s silly to say he&#039;s failed at this point, unless they can&#039;t get over the utter failure of the prior Head Coach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haley/Pioli hasn&#8217;t failed to get a return guy.  Herm failed, by bringing in vets that had severe injuries and weren&#8217;t the same guys in Drummond and Sams, and gave them the jobs.  He also drafted a guy who was just too slow in K-Rob, who Pioli already showed what he thought of.  Haley is going to attempt to do it right, looking at young, FAST players, and may the best man win.  It&#8217;s silly to say he&#8217;s failed at this point, unless they can&#8217;t get over the utter failure of the prior Head Coach.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 17:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couple other guys that the Chiefs will look at in the return game are, Donald Washington and Bates, not Bill but Jackie. If Jackie wants to mimic the former Bates and become a ST&#039;s coverage guru I think the Chiefs would be happy with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple other guys that the Chiefs will look at in the return game are, Donald Washington and Bates, not Bill but Jackie. If Jackie wants to mimic the former Bates and become a ST&#8217;s coverage guru I think the Chiefs would be happy with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Rin Tin Tin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rin Tin Tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 17:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, wasn&#039;t it though...&#039;Supergnat&#039; was too.

;-)


* Footnote in history: Mr. Smith may have gone to Washington in the movies by way of Jimmy Stewart, but outside reel life nee in real life Supergnat DID leave KC and went to...San Francisco.

After a great rookie season &amp; a still good but not as second his, he was let go by the Chiefs  near the halfway mark season three his 1969 so that despite the belief some, Noland was NOT a member the Superbowl team (tho he did recieve Superbowl Ring nontheless.) 

Noland was the victim of one too many clothesline tackles; he became (according some) a bit gunshy if you will - which as a returner is the kiss of death.  While he was at his peak however, he was the best...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, wasn&#8217;t it though&#8230;&#8217;Supergnat&#8217; was too.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.bobgretz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>* Footnote in history: Mr. Smith may have gone to Washington in the movies by way of Jimmy Stewart, but outside reel life nee in real life Supergnat DID leave KC and went to&#8230;San Francisco.</p>
<p>After a great rookie season &amp; a still good but not as second his, he was let go by the Chiefs  near the halfway mark season three his 1969 so that despite the belief some, Noland was NOT a member the Superbowl team (tho he did recieve Superbowl Ring nontheless.) </p>
<p>Noland was the victim of one too many clothesline tackles; he became (according some) a bit gunshy if you will &#8211; which as a returner is the kiss of death.  While he was at his peak however, he was the best&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 17:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Savage is the best returner we have, he had the best average out of the people above. I watched the Lawrence video on you tube and I dont think he likes to get hit, he ran out of bounds on every single kickoff that they showed so that he wouldnt get hit. He also ran out of bounds a lot when he was catching passes also, so I dont think that is a very good sign. I can see him running down the sideline and get crushed and him not getting up. Savage can take the hit and still hold onto the ball and get right back up too. I think Savage is our best option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Savage is the best returner we have, he had the best average out of the people above. I watched the Lawrence video on you tube and I dont think he likes to get hit, he ran out of bounds on every single kickoff that they showed so that he wouldnt get hit. He also ran out of bounds a lot when he was catching passes also, so I dont think that is a very good sign. I can see him running down the sideline and get crushed and him not getting up. Savage can take the hit and still hold onto the ball and get right back up too. I think Savage is our best option.</p>
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		<title>By: BinSC</title>
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		<dc:creator>BinSC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 16:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure how Bob comes to the conclusion that they have &quot;failed&quot; in improving the return game. Did I miss the first game of the season somehow? He references guys that have experience that were available, but if they were so good, why were they available? 

Did anyone think Dante Hall would be so good when we drafted him? I believe most people thought he was way too small to ever contribute. Just because we didn&#039;t somehow trade for Devin Hester doesn&#039;t mean we haven&#039;t improved. For all we know, the next great returner is on our roster. Or maybe not. To say improvement in this area has been a &quot;failure&quot; is pretty ridiculous and normally a little beneath Bob&#039;s writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure how Bob comes to the conclusion that they have &#8220;failed&#8221; in improving the return game. Did I miss the first game of the season somehow? He references guys that have experience that were available, but if they were so good, why were they available? </p>
<p>Did anyone think Dante Hall would be so good when we drafted him? I believe most people thought he was way too small to ever contribute. Just because we didn&#8217;t somehow trade for Devin Hester doesn&#8217;t mean we haven&#8217;t improved. For all we know, the next great returner is on our roster. Or maybe not. To say improvement in this area has been a &#8220;failure&#8221; is pretty ridiculous and normally a little beneath Bob&#8217;s writing.</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 16:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post Rin - thanks for telling about Mr. Smith...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post Rin &#8211; thanks for telling about Mr. Smith&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: colby</title>
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		<dc:creator>colby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 16:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty confident that we have a better special teams coach this year.  Bob never mentioned Leggett, who got 5 KO returns last season, and if memory serves correctly, was being looked at as a PR as well in training camp last year.  He&#039;s a fast kid who might fit here as well.  Savage is the fan favorite, Lawrence will probably get the most opportunities, and Colclough is the darkhorse.

The Chiefs went the veteran route the last two years with Eddie Drummond in 2007 and BJ Sams in 2008.  Neither player did much of anything.  If our return man isn&#039;t a TD threat, he at least needs to be able to contribute in some other way.  Drummond and Sams couldn&#039;t, they were just return men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty confident that we have a better special teams coach this year.  Bob never mentioned Leggett, who got 5 KO returns last season, and if memory serves correctly, was being looked at as a PR as well in training camp last year.  He&#8217;s a fast kid who might fit here as well.  Savage is the fan favorite, Lawrence will probably get the most opportunities, and Colclough is the darkhorse.</p>
<p>The Chiefs went the veteran route the last two years with Eddie Drummond in 2007 and BJ Sams in 2008.  Neither player did much of anything.  If our return man isn&#8217;t a TD threat, he at least needs to be able to contribute in some other way.  Drummond and Sams couldn&#8217;t, they were just return men.</p>
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		<title>By: Rin Tin Tin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rin Tin Tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 16:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great return man is like a poem about a man &amp; a jet - well here, let me addend nee translate in a football sense:

&quot;Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth (and I&#039;m OFF!) &amp; danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings (MAN I&#039;m F-A-S-T weeeeeeeeeeeee!!!  :-) 

Sunward I&#039;ve climbed (down the near sideline) and joined the tumbling mirth (shooting past the mass of wedged humanity) of sun-split clouds, and done a hundred (in 9.4) things you have not dreamed of-wheeled, and soared, and swung high in the sunlit silence (juking defender out his jo-  er, shoes.) 

Hov&#039;rng there (in mid-air as I vault the fallen), I&#039;ve chased the shouting wind along and flung my eager craft (that&#039;d be me) through footless halls (Dante) of air (breaking into the clear now!) 

Up, up, the long delirious burning blue (green in this case, 300 feet gridiron yardage) I&#039;ve topped the windswept heights (out of the N/NE at 25 mph) with easy grace where never lark, or ever eagle flew (only the ghosts great return men past do.) 

And, while with silent lifting mind (a reflective mood, undecided: a Sharpie or White Shoes Johnson shuffle upon arrival paydirt), I&#039;ve trod the high untrespassed sanctity of space (shall ne&#039;er pass- no, &#039;run&#039; this way again, this particular TD run gone fore&#039;er) put out my hand (hi mom I&#039;m on TV!, ball raised high above my head), and touched the face of God (I should&#039;ve shave for my closeup.)

We remember the great ones - the greatest KR&#039;r in Chiefs history is, as every, a subjective matter. Stats alone tell only what happened, not what you saw or remember. One example is WR Otis Taylor... though his stats are not on par with many others in football history, anyone who saw him play will tell you he was as good as any who ever played.

Back to our jet inspired poem from afore (&quot;High Flight&quot;, writer American aviator John Gillespie Magee Jr. who, sadly, died while in air combat.)

The Chiefs had a &#039;Jet&#039; of their own...he remains to date the best ever Chiefs history,  my opine. Like Otis Taylor, you had to see him to believe him. 

Noland Smith, the ascribed &#039;Supergnat&#039;, aka &#039;The Jet&#039; (a title the latter which Noland told me he actually prefered.) Noland was fast - VERY fast. What Dante Hall lacked in blinding speed he made up for with quickness- &#039;Supergnat&#039; flipped those two attributes. 

Noland Smith was the referenced 9.4 100 yard dash return man. Noland to this day retains the record for longest KO return TD in pro football history (* he was credited with a 106 yarder in 1967 that tied Al Carmicahel&#039;s same from 10 years earlier, and they were later tied by Roy Green, and more recently surpassed. Fact is a tape review Smith&#039;s TD will affirm it was AT LEAST 107 yards, maybe 108 which would tie the current official record.)

Much like the non-existant QB sack records afore 1982 that in essence make mute &amp; moot any player who excelled afore then (like David Deacon Jones, who&#039;s the actual all-time sack leader regardless of what the NFL touts.) Too, Derrick Thomas? Try Bobby Bell, who was just as quick on the blitz when he was allowed to, and faster than Thomas too. Again, sports records whether NFL or other (like MLB, where Maris &amp; Aaron remain the most prolific hr hitters season/career, Ruth &#039;best&#039; ever, Bonds* but an adenoid or a 3rd teat on a boar hog at best.) 

Noland &#039;Supergnat&#039;/Jet&#039; Smith and Dante &#039;Human Joystick&#039; Hall were the two best, certainly the most exciting in Chiefs history. Several others were reliable &amp; consistent, names like Marshall and Grayson among them.

That the likelihood of finding another Smith or Hall is small, a lunchpail type willst suffice. 
Course, before a Smith or Hall arrived, no one could have imagined their like either.

Dyno-MITES as twere, they were: legitimately 5&#039;6 and change and about 154 lbs. in pads was Smith, while Hall was (w/ apologies to his bio) taller than Smith but not the 5&#039;8 KC listed him. Almost 190 lbs.? (182-187 listed.) Right... with Noland Smith being carried under Dante&#039;s arm, maybe.  

Hank Stram in his book &quot;They&#039;re Playing My Game&quot; stated &quot;you can&#039;t order up world-class athletes like a sandwich&quot; - this in reply to the concern regards the Chiefs talent level decline back in the early 1970s. As Smith was a 6th round draft choice and Hall a 5th, gems such as they prove that lightning can strike twice, and that good things come in small packages.


:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great return man is like a poem about a man &amp; a jet &#8211; well here, let me addend nee translate in a football sense:</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth (and I&#8217;m OFF!) &amp; danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings (MAN I&#8217;m F-A-S-T weeeeeeeeeeeee!!!  <img src='http://www.bobgretz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Sunward I&#8217;ve climbed (down the near sideline) and joined the tumbling mirth (shooting past the mass of wedged humanity) of sun-split clouds, and done a hundred (in 9.4) things you have not dreamed of-wheeled, and soared, and swung high in the sunlit silence (juking defender out his jo-  er, shoes.) </p>
<p>Hov&#8217;rng there (in mid-air as I vault the fallen), I&#8217;ve chased the shouting wind along and flung my eager craft (that&#8217;d be me) through footless halls (Dante) of air (breaking into the clear now!) </p>
<p>Up, up, the long delirious burning blue (green in this case, 300 feet gridiron yardage) I&#8217;ve topped the windswept heights (out of the N/NE at 25 mph) with easy grace where never lark, or ever eagle flew (only the ghosts great return men past do.) </p>
<p>And, while with silent lifting mind (a reflective mood, undecided: a Sharpie or White Shoes Johnson shuffle upon arrival paydirt), I&#8217;ve trod the high untrespassed sanctity of space (shall ne&#8217;er pass- no, &#8216;run&#8217; this way again, this particular TD run gone fore&#8217;er) put out my hand (hi mom I&#8217;m on TV!, ball raised high above my head), and touched the face of God (I should&#8217;ve shave for my closeup.)</p>
<p>We remember the great ones &#8211; the greatest KR&#8217;r in Chiefs history is, as every, a subjective matter. Stats alone tell only what happened, not what you saw or remember. One example is WR Otis Taylor&#8230; though his stats are not on par with many others in football history, anyone who saw him play will tell you he was as good as any who ever played.</p>
<p>Back to our jet inspired poem from afore (&#8220;High Flight&#8221;, writer American aviator John Gillespie Magee Jr. who, sadly, died while in air combat.)</p>
<p>The Chiefs had a &#8216;Jet&#8217; of their own&#8230;he remains to date the best ever Chiefs history,  my opine. Like Otis Taylor, you had to see him to believe him. </p>
<p>Noland Smith, the ascribed &#8216;Supergnat&#8217;, aka &#8216;The Jet&#8217; (a title the latter which Noland told me he actually prefered.) Noland was fast &#8211; VERY fast. What Dante Hall lacked in blinding speed he made up for with quickness- &#8216;Supergnat&#8217; flipped those two attributes. </p>
<p>Noland Smith was the referenced 9.4 100 yard dash return man. Noland to this day retains the record for longest KO return TD in pro football history (* he was credited with a 106 yarder in 1967 that tied Al Carmicahel&#8217;s same from 10 years earlier, and they were later tied by Roy Green, and more recently surpassed. Fact is a tape review Smith&#8217;s TD will affirm it was AT LEAST 107 yards, maybe 108 which would tie the current official record.)</p>
<p>Much like the non-existant QB sack records afore 1982 that in essence make mute &amp; moot any player who excelled afore then (like David Deacon Jones, who&#8217;s the actual all-time sack leader regardless of what the NFL touts.) Too, Derrick Thomas? Try Bobby Bell, who was just as quick on the blitz when he was allowed to, and faster than Thomas too. Again, sports records whether NFL or other (like MLB, where Maris &amp; Aaron remain the most prolific hr hitters season/career, Ruth &#8216;best&#8217; ever, Bonds* but an adenoid or a 3rd teat on a boar hog at best.) </p>
<p>Noland &#8216;Supergnat&#8217;/Jet&#8217; Smith and Dante &#8216;Human Joystick&#8217; Hall were the two best, certainly the most exciting in Chiefs history. Several others were reliable &amp; consistent, names like Marshall and Grayson among them.</p>
<p>That the likelihood of finding another Smith or Hall is small, a lunchpail type willst suffice.<br />
Course, before a Smith or Hall arrived, no one could have imagined their like either.</p>
<p>Dyno-MITES as twere, they were: legitimately 5&#8217;6 and change and about 154 lbs. in pads was Smith, while Hall was (w/ apologies to his bio) taller than Smith but not the 5&#8217;8 KC listed him. Almost 190 lbs.? (182-187 listed.) Right&#8230; with Noland Smith being carried under Dante&#8217;s arm, maybe.  </p>
<p>Hank Stram in his book &#8220;They&#8217;re Playing My Game&#8221; stated &#8220;you can&#8217;t order up world-class athletes like a sandwich&#8221; &#8211; this in reply to the concern regards the Chiefs talent level decline back in the early 1970s. As Smith was a 6th round draft choice and Hall a 5th, gems such as they prove that lightning can strike twice, and that good things come in small packages.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.bobgretz.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went back and watched 10 kickoff returns from 3 different games in 08&#039; and then went back to 95&#039; and 03&#039; Chiefs games and watched 10 returns. My observation is that the wedge (which is no longer) was set up WAY TOO DEEP allowing the defenders too close access to the returner and too slow of a lane development to run through. Why can&#039;t ST coaches figure this out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went back and watched 10 kickoff returns from 3 different games in 08&#8242; and then went back to 95&#8242; and 03&#8242; Chiefs games and watched 10 returns. My observation is that the wedge (which is no longer) was set up WAY TOO DEEP allowing the defenders too close access to the returner and too slow of a lane development to run through. Why can&#8217;t ST coaches figure this out?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anonymous says: 
&quot;I can live with no TD&#039;s from ST&#039;s, but God, I hope they improve on covering KO&#039;s and punts!!&quot;


Agreed.  It&#039;s tough to stop opposing offenses when they consistantly start at the 40, or closer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anonymous says:<br />
&#8220;I can live with no TD&#8217;s from ST&#8217;s, but God, I hope they improve on covering KO&#8217;s and punts!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed.  It&#8217;s tough to stop opposing offenses when they consistantly start at the 40, or closer.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can live with no TD&#039;s from ST&#039;s, but God, I hope they improve on covering KO&#039;s and punts!!

Also, I agree, Savage was the best of the bunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can live with no TD&#8217;s from ST&#8217;s, but God, I hope they improve on covering KO&#8217;s and punts!!</p>
<p>Also, I agree, Savage was the best of the bunch.</p>
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		<title>By: IPWT</title>
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		<dc:creator>IPWT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it was the types of returners we had last year, it was more the types of blockers we had on special teams. We&#039;ve picked up some good special teams LB&#039;s like Monty Beisel and Corey Smith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it was the types of returners we had last year, it was more the types of blockers we had on special teams. We&#8217;ve picked up some good special teams LB&#8217;s like Monty Beisel and Corey Smith.</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;....but NO...I will not think like that....they will compete....they will be better from the new coaching philosophy and game plans. Right?&quot;

Is that a real question you don&#039;t have the answer to or more an offer for someone else to throw in a thought?  

Guys, I hope there&#039;s more than just sling blind hope and blind faith out there as our only basis for thinking the team will be better.  There are arguments to be made (one only has to comment from the models used in NE since 2000 and the one the past couple years in AZ to have a valid base for discussion) which are not being made.

Let&#039;s win the day in the school of public opinion while our team does the things it needs to do to improve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;.but NO&#8230;I will not think like that&#8230;.they will compete&#8230;.they will be better from the new coaching philosophy and game plans. Right?&#8221;</p>
<p>Is that a real question you don&#8217;t have the answer to or more an offer for someone else to throw in a thought?  </p>
<p>Guys, I hope there&#8217;s more than just sling blind hope and blind faith out there as our only basis for thinking the team will be better.  There are arguments to be made (one only has to comment from the models used in NE since 2000 and the one the past couple years in AZ to have a valid base for discussion) which are not being made.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s win the day in the school of public opinion while our team does the things it needs to do to improve.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really think the Kickoff return game went down the crapper when Herm had to make some roster moves and put Robinson in to return kicks and put Savage on the practice squad. Dantrell Savage looked pretty good without good blocking in front of him. Just imagine if he did have some blockers. I would have really liked to have seen him at that position the whole season. I&#039;m wondering if he will be the guy this year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think the Kickoff return game went down the crapper when Herm had to make some roster moves and put Robinson in to return kicks and put Savage on the practice squad. Dantrell Savage looked pretty good without good blocking in front of him. Just imagine if he did have some blockers. I would have really liked to have seen him at that position the whole season. I&#8217;m wondering if he will be the guy this year?</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unfortunately that will not solve what to do in 09.&quot;

Although you have a point, there&#039;s something we should not ignore...an indication of something bigger...the GM and head coach appear to have some attention to details sometimes ignored.  Realistically, we may get mashed 34-10 some weeks.  Being honest - it&#039;s more likely than not that this team will not be playing for a conference title this year.  However, in those games we lost by 6 points or less the past two years and the fans were all throwing things at the tv because of poor decision-making or letting that one big kick return or big play beat us, it appears to be the intent of management to not allow that trend to continue.  Like you, I have serious questions about how they have (or have NOT) answered some key issues such as the O-Line and the WR&#039;s, this is one of the very positive trends going forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unfortunately that will not solve what to do in 09.&#8221;</p>
<p>Although you have a point, there&#8217;s something we should not ignore&#8230;an indication of something bigger&#8230;the GM and head coach appear to have some attention to details sometimes ignored.  Realistically, we may get mashed 34-10 some weeks.  Being honest &#8211; it&#8217;s more likely than not that this team will not be playing for a conference title this year.  However, in those games we lost by 6 points or less the past two years and the fans were all throwing things at the tv because of poor decision-making or letting that one big kick return or big play beat us, it appears to be the intent of management to not allow that trend to continue.  Like you, I have serious questions about how they have (or have NOT) answered some key issues such as the O-Line and the WR&#8217;s, this is one of the very positive trends going forward.</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;OT Willie Anderson retired.&quot;

A well-played career Mr. Anderson.  

&quot;...you also need ten other guys who are willing and able to get on the field and block the other guys long enough to spring the return man past the first wave.&quot;

Not to mention the kick return coverage units weren&#039;t exactly spectacular the past couple years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;OT Willie Anderson retired.&#8221;</p>
<p>A well-played career Mr. Anderson.  </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;you also need ten other guys who are willing and able to get on the field and block the other guys long enough to spring the return man past the first wave.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not to mention the kick return coverage units weren&#8217;t exactly spectacular the past couple years.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-football/thursday-morning-cup-o%e2%80%99chiefs-31.html#comment-17821</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bubba....i totally agree. talk about contradicting your story. we are suppose to get a player from one of two teams who haven&#039;t scored a td either. come on bob your a better reporter than that!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bubba&#8230;.i totally agree. talk about contradicting your story. we are suppose to get a player from one of two teams who haven&#8217;t scored a td either. come on bob your a better reporter than that!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bubba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you said carolina and tennessee were the 2 other teams without returns for touchdowns, then you list a player from each team as some one the chiefs should have picked up this offseason.  that doesnt make sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you said carolina and tennessee were the 2 other teams without returns for touchdowns, then you list a player from each team as some one the chiefs should have picked up this offseason.  that doesnt make sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Great&quot; return guys are few and far between.  What we need is a guy who can consistantly get us decent field position...so we don&#039;t have to start every drive from the 20.  Good blocking is the biggest part of that.  

Having a guy, like a Vanover or Hall, who is a threat to go all the way every time is nice...but those guys don&#039;t come around very often.  There are only (maybe) three or four players in the NFL at any given time that can do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Great&#8221; return guys are few and far between.  What we need is a guy who can consistantly get us decent field position&#8230;so we don&#8217;t have to start every drive from the 20.  Good blocking is the biggest part of that.  </p>
<p>Having a guy, like a Vanover or Hall, who is a threat to go all the way every time is nice&#8230;but those guys don&#8217;t come around very often.  There are only (maybe) three or four players in the NFL at any given time that can do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Rip 'em a new one</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rip 'em a new one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a good idea to use a starting position player for kickoff and punt return duties because of the increased injury possibility.    Besides, as Bob points out, there isn&#039;t any reliable talent in that pool anyway.   

I think you have to start with two major needs of the return guy:  Speed and hands.  Then there&#039;s the elusive factor, setting up his blocks, busting to daylight and, and, no wonder it&#039;s such a tough position to fill!    

But, start with a guy with 4.3 burner speed and sure hands.   Those types don&#039;t grow on trees either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a good idea to use a starting position player for kickoff and punt return duties because of the increased injury possibility.    Besides, as Bob points out, there isn&#8217;t any reliable talent in that pool anyway.   </p>
<p>I think you have to start with two major needs of the return guy:  Speed and hands.  Then there&#8217;s the elusive factor, setting up his blocks, busting to daylight and, and, no wonder it&#8217;s such a tough position to fill!    </p>
<p>But, start with a guy with 4.3 burner speed and sure hands.   Those types don&#8217;t grow on trees either.</p>
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		<title>By: tm1946</title>
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		<dc:creator>tm1946</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this rehashing is fine, what we did or did not do in past years.  Unfortunately that will not solve what to do in 09.  Somebody has to stand back there and catch the football, who?  How about our center Nus or DT Dorsey, neither will probably be a starter this year?  Lastly, if and when the special teams down the ball, who is going to carry the load on offense?  LJ, Bowe, or Cottam, I doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this rehashing is fine, what we did or did not do in past years.  Unfortunately that will not solve what to do in 09.  Somebody has to stand back there and catch the football, who?  How about our center Nus or DT Dorsey, neither will probably be a starter this year?  Lastly, if and when the special teams down the ball, who is going to carry the load on offense?  LJ, Bowe, or Cottam, I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 11:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merwin and Harold are right.  We could have had Devin Hester or Josh Cribbs returning kicks for us...and it wouldn&#039;t have made much difference.  It&#039;s called Special TEAMS.  And we haven&#039;t had that for awhile.  Field position, both ways, has been absolutely killing us the last few years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merwin and Harold are right.  We could have had Devin Hester or Josh Cribbs returning kicks for us&#8230;and it wouldn&#8217;t have made much difference.  It&#8217;s called Special TEAMS.  And we haven&#8217;t had that for awhile.  Field position, both ways, has been absolutely killing us the last few years.</p>
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		<title>By: Harold C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 11:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More guys would be returning the ball for touch downs if we had better blocking.  Not everybody is Hall....dancing and zigging and zagging and going backwards and forwards.  It really seems like the Chiefs have way too many problems to contend this year....but NO...I will not think like that....they will compete....they will be better from the new coaching philosophy and game plans.  Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More guys would be returning the ball for touch downs if we had better blocking.  Not everybody is Hall&#8230;.dancing and zigging and zagging and going backwards and forwards.  It really seems like the Chiefs have way too many problems to contend this year&#8230;.but NO&#8230;I will not think like that&#8230;.they will compete&#8230;.they will be better from the new coaching philosophy and game plans.  Right?</p>
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		<title>By: Merwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 10:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me that you need more then a good return man, you also need ten other guys who are willing and able to get on the field and block the other guys long enough to spring the return man past the first wave. What I have seen over the last two years is a bunch of guys dancing around back there with not too many lanes to run into. I hope we get better blocking schemes for this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that you need more then a good return man, you also need ten other guys who are willing and able to get on the field and block the other guys long enough to spring the return man past the first wave. What I have seen over the last two years is a bunch of guys dancing around back there with not too many lanes to run into. I hope we get better blocking schemes for this year.</p>
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