The Picks History … Tuesday Cup O’Chiefs
The Chiefs have eight of the first 144 selections in this week’s NFL Draft.
On paper, those numbers sound impressive. Eight of the first 144 selected players should provide a big infusion of talent to a roster that badly needs just that: talent.
But what can the Chiefs really expect to get from those selections? We went back and dug through the last 10 NFL Drafts and matched up the selections in the slots the Chiefs currently hold in this year’s selection meeting. Like last year’s fifth pick in the first round was Jets QB Mark Sanchez (right).
Not surprising, the results show a mixed bag in successfully finding players. That’s very much the plot line that runs through any look at the NFL Draft. Despite the millions of dollars spent on scouting and evaluation, there are no guarantees when it comes to selecting young players and then developing them into contributors to success.
And, there are no guarantees that the Chiefs are going to score with these choices; in so many cases the teams that have drafted in those spots in the last decade failed to find or develop an outstanding player. Sometimes they got no contribution at all. All eight of the Chiefs picks are in the first five rounds and those are always players that are expected to make the roster and play for at least several seasons.
The Chiefs have selections No. 5, 36, 50, 68, 102, 136, 142 and 144. Over the last 10 drafts there have been some interesting names among those 80 players:
- Current Chiefs were drafted in those spots – CB Donald Washington (#102-’09), Ryan O’Callaghan (#136-’06, by New England.)
- Former Chiefs were also part of the group – DT Junior Siavii (#36-’04), TE Sean Ryan (#144-’04 by Dallas) and WR Marques Haggans (#144-’06 by St. Louis.)
- The 36th selection was big for wide receivers – Of the 10 players drafted at that spot, six were pass catches, including Chad Ochocinco (#’01 by Cincinnati).
- Sadly two of those 80 players have died – S Sean Taylor (#5-’04 by Washington) and RB Damien Nash (#142-’05 by St. Louis.)
- Some big names were part of that group – Ochocinco, RB LaDainian Tomlinson (#5-’01), OT Marcus McNeil (#50-’06), LB Lance Briggs (#68-’03) and P Shane Lechler (#142-’00.)
Here’s how the draft picks break down:
Selection #5
Year | Player | Pos. | Team | G | Year | Player | Pos. | Team | G | |
2009 | Mark Sanchez | QB | Jets | 15 | 2004 | Sean Taylor | S | Redskins | 55 | |
2008 | Glenn Dorsey | DT | Chiefs | 31 | 2003 | Terence Newman | CB | Cowboys | 103 | |
2007 | Levi Brown | OT | Cards | 45 | 2002 | Quentin Jammer | CB | Chargers | 125 | |
2006 | A.J. Hawk | OLB | Packers | 64 | 2001 | L. Tomlinson | RB | Chargers | 141 | |
2005 | Cadillac Williams | RB | Bucs | 54 | 2000 | Jamal Lewis | RB | Ravens | 131 |
Best choice: LaDainian Tomlinson – on his way to the Hall of Fame no matter what happens with Jets.
Worst pick: Cadillac Williams – injuries have hurt his availability, as he’s missed 26 games over 5 seasons.
Games played: out of 880 potential games, the No. 5 pick played in 764, or 87 percent.
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Selection #36
Year | Player | Pos. | Team | G | Year | Player | Pos. | Team | G | |
2009 | Brian Robiskie | WR | Browns | 11 | 2004 | Junior Siavii | DT | Chiefs | 42 | |
2008 | Jordy Nelson | WR | Packers | 29 | 2003 | Eugene Wilson | S | Patriots | 82 | |
2007 | Kevin Kolb | QB | Eagles | 12 | 2002 | Josh Reed | WR | Bills | 115 | |
2006 | Chad Jackson | WR | Patriots | 18 | 2001 | Chad Johnson | WR | Bengals | 137 | |
2005 | Barrett Ruud | LB | Bucs | 79 | 2000 | Todd Pinkston | WR | Eagles | 78 |
Best choice: Chad Johnson/Ochocinco – goofy personality, but he’s put together a good career.
Worst pick: Chad Jackson – big mistake by Belichick/Pioli when they drafted the Florida WR.
Games played: out of 880 potential games, the No. 36 pick played in 603, or 69 percent.
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Selection #50
Year | Player | Pos. | Team | G | Year | Player | Pos. | Team | G | |
2009 | M. Massaquoi | WR | Browns | 16 | 2004 | D. Henderson | WR | Saints | 77 | |
2008 | Calais Campbell | DE | Cards | 32 | 2003 | Bruce Nelson | C | Panthers | 14 | |
2007 | Chris Henry | RB | Titans | 10 | 2002 | Chester Pitts | OT | Texans | 114 | |
2006 | Marcus McNeil | OT | Chargers | 62 | 2001 | Dominic Raiola | C | Lions | 140 | |
2005 | Ronald Bartell | CB | Rams | 73 | 2000 | Barrett Green | LB | Lions | 65 |
Best choice: Dominic Raiola – although the Lions have been bad, he’s been solid at center for Detroit.
Worst pick: Bruce Nelson – lasted just one season in Carolina.
Games played: out of 880 potential games, the No. 50 choice played 603, or 69 percent.
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Selection #68
Year | Player | Pos. | Team | G | Year | Player | Pos. | Team | G | |
2009 | Jarron Gilbert | DT | Bears | 4 | 2004 | Ben Harstock | TE | Colts | 72 | |
2008 | Chevis Jackson | CB | Falcons | 31 | 2003 | Lance Briggs | LB | Bears | 109 | |
2007 | Quincy Black | LB | Bucs | 47 | 2002 | Andre Goodman | DB | Lions | 103 | |
2006 | Claude Wroten | DT | Rams | 26 | 2001 | Mike Gandy | G | Bears | 108 | |
2005 | Courtney Roby | WR | Titans | 46 | 2000 | Erron Kinney | TE | Titans | 83 |
Best choice: Lance Briggs – the Chicago LB helped the Bears reach the Super Bowl.
Worst pick: Claude Wroten – one of the reasons St. Louis struggles is just 26 games from Wroten.
Games played: out of 880 potential games, the No. 68 pick played in 629, or 72 percent.
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Selection #102
Year | Player | Pos. | Team | G | Year | Player | Pos. | Team | G | |
2009 | D. Washington | CB | Chiefs | 8 | 2004 | Will Poole | CB | Dolphins | 15 | |
2008 | Jeremy Thompson | DE | Packers | 15 | 2003 | M. Holland | G | Saints | 75 | |
2007 | Brian Robison | DE | Vikings | 47 | 2002 | Jeff Chandler | K | 49ers | 13 | |
2006 | Calvin Lowry | DB | Titans | 43 | 2001 | Matt Stewart | LB | Falcons | 93 | |
2005 | Sean Considine | S | Eagles | 57 | 2000 | David Barrett | CB | Cards | 131 |
Best choice: David Barrett – he played a lot of games in the league for a fourth-round pick.
Worst pick: Will Poole – the cornerback hung around the league a long time, but seldom played.
Games played: out of 880 potential games, the No. 102 pick played in 496, or 57 percent.
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Selection #136
Year | Player | Pos. | Team | G | Year | Player | Pos. | Team | G | |
2009 | T. Taylor | DT | Colts | 0 | 2004 | Gibril Wilson | S | Giants | 84 | |
2008 | Kenny Moore | WR | Panthers | 12 | 2003 | Khalid Abdullah | LB | Bengals | 16 | |
2007 | Clint Session | LB | Colts | 43 | 2002 | Jarrod Baxter | FB | Texans | 32 | |
2006 | Ryan O’Callaghan | OT | Patriots | 40 | 2001 | Vinny Sutherland | WR | Falcons | 16 | |
2005 | Roydell Williams | WR | Titans | 40 | 2000 | Mao Tosi | DT | Cards | 26 |
Best choice: Gibril Wilson – the safety earned a Super Bowl ring as a starter for the Giants.
Worst pick: Vinny Sutherland – caught just one pass in two seasons.
Games played: out of 880 potential games, the No. 136 pick played in 309, or 35 percent.
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Selection #142
Year | Player | Pos. | Team | G | Year | Player | Pos. | Team | G | |
2009 | Kevin Huber | P | Bengals | 16 | 2004 | Chad Lavalais | DT | Falcons | 30 | |
2008 | Zack Bowman | CB | Bears | 17 | 2003 | Ryan Pontbriand | C | Browns | 107 | |
2007 | Steve Breaston | WR | Cards | 47 | 2002 | Terry Charles | WR | Chargers | 0 | |
2006 | Brandon Johnson | LB | Cards | 41 | 2001 | D. Leaverton | P | Jaguars | 0 | |
2005 | Damien Nash | RB | Titans | 6 | 2000 | Shane Lechler | P | Raiders | 158 |
Best choice: Shane Lechler – the best punter in the game for the last three or four years.
Worst choice: Terry Charles – Chargers wide receiver never got on the field due to torn ACL as rookie.
Games played: out of 880 potential games, the No. 142 pick played in 422 or 48 percent.
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Selection #144
Year | Player | Pos. | Team | G | Year | Player | Pos. | Team | G | |
2009 | Jarrett Dillard | WR | Jaguars | 7 | 2004 | Sean Ryan | TE | Cowboys | 53 | |
2008 | DeMario Presley | DT | Saints | 7 | 2003 | James Davis | LB | Lions | 40 | |
2007 | B. Harrison | DB | Texans | 15 | 2002 | Herb Haygood | WR | Broncos | 4 | |
2006 | Marques Haggans | WR | Rams | 6 | 2001 | M. Sullivan | OT | Bills | 32 | |
2005 | Jerome Collins | TE | Rams | 3 | 2000 | Michael Wiley | RB | Cowboys | 42 |
Best choice: Sean Ryan – yes it’s the same Sean Ryan who started ‘09 as Chiefs TE and then disappeared.
Worst choice: Herb Haygood – WR was never a factor for Shanahan’s offense due to ‘03 neck injury.
Games played: out of 880 potential games, the No. 144 pick played in 209 or 24 percent.
PERSONNEL MOVES FOR MONDAY, APRIL 19
- BEARS – RFA LB Nick Roach signed his tender offer.
- BRONCOS – acquired a 5th-round 2010 draft choice from the Eagles in a trade.
- EAGLES – acquired LB Ernie Sims from the Lions in a trade.
- LIONS – acquired TE Tony Scheffler and a 7th-round 2010 draft choice from the Broncos in a trade
I say if we get 4 of the 8 to be starters with at least 4 years of playing we done good.
Go Chiefs!!!
Great work Bob. Thanks for the effort. That took some time huh? I’m on Arrowhead Pride every minute of every day, so I get to see a lot of your work.
AP’ers are big fans of yours and we generally get a link to your articles pretty much every morning. Your one of us now. You might as well give in and join Arrowhead Pride.
You know you want to!!
Nice job Bob. It certainly gives pause to those draftniks who think they would do better than Pioli. Keep up the good work.
I still think we will be able to trade down and get good picks in return. There will be somebody who wants QB Claussen badly in spite of what they say now; or Berry; or Okung…
I think if we do want to trade we will be able to find a partner.
I agree, the plausability that we will have a legitimate offer to trade down in the draft increases daily.
No doubt the #5 slot for KC has been hotly debated on who we pick. I for one, would rather trade down to the middle of the first round & pick up an additional 2nd round pick. I’m not sure if Scott Pioli is getting much sleep these days, I do believe though, he will do his darnest to acquire the best players that fit the KC profile. An exciting & scary time to be a Chiefs fan indeed.
Go Chiefs.
Why would a team trade with us to get Clausen? Seattle isn’t likely to take him. I’m not so sure the Browns will either.
I don’t see anyone trading up with us to get Berry, either. I keep hearing the Eagles rumor…but that would drop us all the way back into the 20’s for our first pick. I don’t like that idea.
Okung? Maybe. No way at all do I see him still there at #5, though. I could see Detroit possibly taking him. And if they don’t, Washington will.
I think our biggest chance of trading will be if the Rams don’t take Bradford…which isn’t likely. But, it’s hard to tell if Seattle would be a threat to take him…since they traded for Whitehurst. Cleveland would take Bradford, I believe…but I have a feeling they are going to pass on Clausen. And for that matter, if Bradford did fall to #5? I’d be all for drafting the guy for us.
But, if I were the Rams GM…I’d seriously think about drafting Suh #1, and then trying to get Colt McCoy at the top of the second round. I just have a feeling that McCoy will be the most successful QB of this year’s draft.
Okay…I’m rambling.
Happy 420 Bob! Go Chiefs win in 2010.
Great Post Bob
I think this draft is so deep at positions that this years second round draft will be about as good as the first round after the top five last year. If we can find one impact OLB, someone to stuff the middle at nose tackle, and to play lights out on the offensive line if someone gets hurt this year or to come in and start, it would be a successful draft. I didn’t forget we needed a safety either. Just saying three positions of need filled would really help out a lot.
Great article Bob. However, I think the worst pick at No. 36 was Junior Siavi. I think he is with Dallas now, but he was a total bust here. I can hardly wait for this draft. I’ve looked at so many mock drafts I’m getting dizzy. My preference at No.5 is Berry. However, I hope whoever we take at 5 is an impact player. I want the two 2nd rounders to both be starters and not projects.
what do you guys think the odds are that we will finally get a primetime game this year???
I predict we will, but I only see about 60/40 chance, but thats far greater than last years odds…
We have added 2 great coaches, many new good/great players, and a new arrowhead, so if we dont get just one primetime game, I will be SCREAMING!!!
gorillafan,
I’d say the chances are not good. Small market team with a piss-poor record over the last three years? Doesn’t exactly scream viewer ratings.
The Colts game might be our best shot. But of course, that wouldn’t really be us getting the game. Would be cool if it did happen, and we kicked their asses in “primetime” in front of a national audience. That would be sweet.
We’ll find out later today.
gorillafan:
Should get at least one. The unvieling of the “new” Arrowhead might secure it. I think that 10 of the last 14 times a new or re-worked stadium has opened, they’ve hosted a game there. With the history of the Hunt’s in the NFL, I can’t imagine being passed over.
I think there is at least 12 players on this team that are going to turn the corner for this year , with Matt working on his gym time . The three RB’s , TE’s in place to block — High power coaching –Brandon Flowers & Jackson are very good and getting better .
It’s like ( with a little help ) just around the corner . I already know that a lot of guys on this team feel that they have more than good chance to roll through the W’s .
I know this isnt an important matter of the overall outcome of our season, but I do think its important that we do get a primetime game again. maybe it will help turn the tide alittle, players and or fans morale, whatever twist you want to put on it, but if we dont get one, I see us turning into the lions……and if we do maybe we can get our fanbase back like we had in the 90’s…..its a stretch i know, just a thot…..
Gorillafan
The Chiefs are going to be in primetime TV this season. Wait and see.
Inside information, Enrique?
Gut feeling Mad Chief. Sheer gut feeling.
By the way Mad Chief, there’s a column coming up later in the evening; and furthermore, Bob has authorized a new section that we’ll be unveiling in just a few days.
Sweet, cant wait!!!! and Enrique, I hope your gut feeling is correct!!!
Enrique—
To help your gut feeling , I have talked to players and guy’s who do know players and this year looks very do able .
Todays game IS 80 to 90 % passing , Erick Berry is proably the biggest key to making it happen , along with who is here .
The Steelers lost FIVE games last year and they were the games that Troy P. was out !
Berry is a must !!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the insight Jim, and don’t worry…we’re about to find out.
In fact, I’ll raise the stakes. If you take into account that because of the flexible Sunday programming, contending teams are usually showcased in the Sunday Night broadcasts, I’ll leave you with this: I truly believe that we’ll see the Chiefs play on Sunday Night this upcoming season. There. I said it.
Bingo!
Chiefs-Chargers. Week 1. Sunday Nighter
Oops, turns out it is the MONDAY NIGHTER…Well, I guess I’ll have to “settle” for that.
Just kidding.