The Picks History … Tuesday Cup O’Chiefs

The Chiefs have eight of the first 144 selections in this week’s NFL Draft.

On paper, those numbers sound impressive. Eight of the first 144 selected players should provide a big infusion of talent to a roster that badly needs just that: talent.

But what can the Chiefs really expect to get from those selections? We went back and dug through the last 10 NFL Drafts and matched up the selections in the slots the Chiefs currently hold in this year’s selection meeting. Like last year’s fifth pick in the first round was Jets QB Mark Sanchez (right).

Not surprising, the results show a mixed bag in successfully finding players. That’s very much the plot line that runs through any look at the NFL Draft. Despite the millions of dollars spent on scouting and evaluation, there are no guarantees when it comes to selecting young players and then developing them into contributors to success.

And, there are no guarantees that the Chiefs are going to score with these choices; in so many cases the teams that have drafted in those spots in the last decade failed to find or develop an outstanding player. Sometimes they got no contribution at all. All eight of the Chiefs picks are in the first five rounds and those are always players that are expected to make the roster and play for at least several seasons.

The Chiefs have selections No. 5, 36, 50, 68, 102, 136, 142 and 144. Over the last 10 drafts there have been some interesting names among those 80 players:

  • Current Chiefs were drafted in those spots – CB Donald Washington (#102-’09), Ryan O’Callaghan (#136-’06, by New England.)
  • Former Chiefs were also part of the group – DT Junior Siavii (#36-’04), TE Sean Ryan (#144-’04 by Dallas) and WR Marques Haggans (#144-’06 by St. Louis.)
  • The 36th selection was big for wide receivers – Of the 10 players drafted at that spot, six were pass catches, including Chad Ochocinco (#’01 by Cincinnati).
  • Sadly two of those 80 players have died – S Sean Taylor (#5-’04 by Washington) and RB Damien Nash (#142-’05 by St. Louis.)
  • Some big names were part of that group – Ochocinco, RB LaDainian Tomlinson (#5-’01), OT Marcus McNeil (#50-’06), LB Lance Briggs (#68-’03) and P Shane Lechler (#142-’00.)

Here’s how the draft picks break down:

Selection #5

Year  Player  Pos.  Team  G   Year Player Pos. Team G
2009 Mark Sanchez QB Jets 15   2004 Sean Taylor S Redskins 55
2008 Glenn Dorsey DT Chiefs 31   2003 Terence Newman CB Cowboys 103
2007 Levi Brown OT Cards 45   2002 Quentin Jammer CB Chargers 125
2006 A.J. Hawk OLB Packers 64   2001 L. Tomlinson RB Chargers 141
2005 Cadillac Williams RB Bucs 54   2000 Jamal Lewis RB Ravens 131

Best choice: LaDainian Tomlinson – on his way to the Hall of Fame no matter what happens with Jets.

Worst pick: Cadillac Williams – injuries have hurt his availability, as he’s missed 26 games over 5 seasons.

Games played: out of 880 potential games, the No. 5 pick played in 764, or 87 percent.

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Selection #36

Year  Player  Pos.  Team  G    Year  Player  Pos.  Team   G 
2009 Brian Robiskie WR Browns 11   2004 Junior Siavii DT Chiefs 42
2008 Jordy Nelson WR Packers 29   2003 Eugene Wilson S Patriots 82
2007 Kevin Kolb QB Eagles 12   2002 Josh Reed WR Bills 115
2006 Chad Jackson WR Patriots 18   2001 Chad Johnson WR Bengals 137
2005 Barrett Ruud LB Bucs 79   2000 Todd Pinkston WR Eagles 78

Best choice: Chad Johnson/Ochocinco – goofy personality, but he’s put together a good career.

Worst pick: Chad Jackson – big mistake by Belichick/Pioli when they drafted the Florida WR.

Games played: out of 880 potential games, the No. 36 pick played in 603, or 69 percent.

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Selection #50

Year  Player  Pos.  Team G    Year  Player  Pos.  Team   G 
2009 M. Massaquoi WR Browns 16   2004 D. Henderson WR Saints 77
2008 Calais Campbell DE Cards 32   2003 Bruce Nelson C Panthers 14
2007 Chris Henry RB Titans 10   2002 Chester Pitts OT Texans 114
2006 Marcus McNeil OT Chargers 62   2001 Dominic Raiola C Lions 140
2005 Ronald Bartell CB Rams 73   2000 Barrett Green LB Lions 65

Best choice: Dominic Raiola – although the Lions have been bad, he’s been solid at center for Detroit.

Worst pick: Bruce Nelson – lasted just one season in Carolina.

Games played: out of 880 potential games, the No. 50 choice played 603, or 69 percent.

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Selection #68

Year  Player  Pos.  Team  G    Year  Player  Pos.  Team   G 
2009 Jarron Gilbert DT Bears 4   2004 Ben Harstock TE Colts 72
2008 Chevis Jackson CB Falcons 31   2003 Lance Briggs LB Bears 109
2007 Quincy Black LB Bucs 47   2002 Andre Goodman DB Lions 103
2006 Claude Wroten DT Rams 26   2001 Mike Gandy G Bears 108
2005 Courtney Roby WR Titans 46   2000 Erron Kinney TE Titans 83

Best choice: Lance Briggs – the Chicago LB helped the Bears reach the Super Bowl.

Worst pick: Claude Wroten – one of the reasons St. Louis struggles is just 26 games from Wroten.

Games played: out of 880 potential games, the No. 68 pick played in 629, or 72 percent.

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Selection #102

Year  Player  Pos.  Team  G    Year  Player  Pos.  Team   G 
2009 D. Washington CB Chiefs 8   2004 Will Poole CB Dolphins 15
2008 Jeremy Thompson DE Packers 15   2003 M. Holland G Saints 75
2007 Brian Robison DE Vikings 47   2002 Jeff Chandler K 49ers 13
2006 Calvin Lowry DB Titans 43   2001 Matt Stewart LB Falcons 93
2005 Sean Considine S Eagles 57   2000 David Barrett CB Cards 131

Best choice: David Barrett – he played a lot of games in the league for a fourth-round pick.

Worst pick: Will Poole – the cornerback hung around the league a long time, but seldom played.

Games played: out of 880 potential games, the No. 102 pick played in 496, or 57 percent.

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Selection #136

Year  Player  Pos.  Team  G    Year  Player  Pos.  Team   G 
2009 T. Taylor DT Colts 0   2004 Gibril Wilson S Giants 84
2008 Kenny Moore WR Panthers 12   2003 Khalid Abdullah LB Bengals 16
2007 Clint Session LB Colts 43   2002 Jarrod Baxter FB Texans 32
2006 Ryan O’Callaghan OT Patriots 40   2001 Vinny Sutherland WR Falcons 16
2005 Roydell Williams WR Titans 40   2000 Mao Tosi DT Cards 26

Best choice: Gibril Wilson – the safety earned a Super Bowl ring as a starter for the Giants.

Worst pick: Vinny Sutherland – caught just one pass in two seasons.

Games played: out of 880 potential games, the No. 136 pick played in 309, or 35 percent.

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Selection #142

Year  Player  Pos.  Team  G    Year  Player  Pos.  Team   G 
2009 Kevin Huber P Bengals 16   2004 Chad Lavalais DT Falcons 30
2008 Zack Bowman CB Bears 17   2003 Ryan Pontbriand C Browns 107
2007 Steve Breaston WR Cards 47   2002 Terry Charles WR Chargers 0
2006 Brandon Johnson LB Cards 41   2001 D. Leaverton P Jaguars 0
2005 Damien Nash RB Titans 6   2000 Shane Lechler P Raiders 158

Best choice: Shane Lechler – the best punter in the game for the last three or four years.

Worst choice: Terry Charles – Chargers wide receiver never got on the field due to torn ACL as rookie.

Games played: out of 880 potential games, the No. 142 pick played in 422 or 48 percent.

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Selection #144

Year  Player  Pos.  Team  G    Year  Player  Pos.  Team   G 
2009 Jarrett Dillard WR Jaguars 7   2004 Sean Ryan TE Cowboys 53
2008 DeMario Presley DT Saints 7   2003 James Davis LB Lions 40
2007 B. Harrison DB Texans 15   2002 Herb Haygood WR Broncos 4
2006 Marques Haggans WR Rams 6   2001 M. Sullivan OT Bills 32
2005 Jerome Collins TE Rams 3   2000 Michael Wiley RB Cowboys 42

Best choice: Sean Ryan – yes it’s the same Sean Ryan who started ‘09 as Chiefs TE and then disappeared.

Worst choice: Herb Haygood – WR was never a factor for Shanahan’s offense due to ‘03 neck injury.

Games played: out of 880 potential games, the No. 144 pick played in 209 or 24 percent.

PERSONNEL MOVES FOR MONDAY, APRIL 19

  • BEARS – RFA LB Nick Roach signed his tender offer.
  • BRONCOS – acquired a 5th-round 2010 draft choice from the Eagles in a trade.
  • EAGLES – acquired LB Ernie Sims from the Lions in a trade.
  • LIONS – acquired TE Tony Scheffler and a 7th-round 2010 draft choice from the Broncos in a trade

23 Responses to “The Picks History … Tuesday Cup O’Chiefs”

  • April 20, 2010  - MenInRed says:

    I say if we get 4 of the 8 to be starters with at least 4 years of playing we done good.

    Go Chiefs!!!


  • April 20, 2010  - krayfish says:

    Great work Bob. Thanks for the effort. That took some time huh? I’m on Arrowhead Pride every minute of every day, so I get to see a lot of your work.

    AP’ers are big fans of yours and we generally get a link to your articles pretty much every morning. Your one of us now. You might as well give in and join Arrowhead Pride.

    You know you want to!!


  • April 20, 2010  - Justin D says:

    Nice job Bob. It certainly gives pause to those draftniks who think they would do better than Pioli. Keep up the good work.


  • April 20, 2010  - rexHouser says:

    I still think we will be able to trade down and get good picks in return. There will be somebody who wants QB Claussen badly in spite of what they say now; or Berry; or Okung…

    I think if we do want to trade we will be able to find a partner.


  • April 20, 2010  - jimbo says:

    I agree, the plausability that we will have a legitimate offer to trade down in the draft increases daily.
    No doubt the #5 slot for KC has been hotly debated on who we pick. I for one, would rather trade down to the middle of the first round & pick up an additional 2nd round pick. I’m not sure if Scott Pioli is getting much sleep these days, I do believe though, he will do his darnest to acquire the best players that fit the KC profile. An exciting & scary time to be a Chiefs fan indeed.
    Go Chiefs.


  • April 20, 2010  - Mad Chief says:

    Why would a team trade with us to get Clausen? Seattle isn’t likely to take him. I’m not so sure the Browns will either.

    I don’t see anyone trading up with us to get Berry, either. I keep hearing the Eagles rumor…but that would drop us all the way back into the 20’s for our first pick. I don’t like that idea.

    Okung? Maybe. No way at all do I see him still there at #5, though. I could see Detroit possibly taking him. And if they don’t, Washington will.

    I think our biggest chance of trading will be if the Rams don’t take Bradford…which isn’t likely. But, it’s hard to tell if Seattle would be a threat to take him…since they traded for Whitehurst. Cleveland would take Bradford, I believe…but I have a feeling they are going to pass on Clausen. And for that matter, if Bradford did fall to #5? I’d be all for drafting the guy for us.

    But, if I were the Rams GM…I’d seriously think about drafting Suh #1, and then trying to get Colt McCoy at the top of the second round. I just have a feeling that McCoy will be the most successful QB of this year’s draft.

    Okay…I’m rambling.


  • April 20, 2010  - craig says:

    Happy 420 Bob! Go Chiefs win in 2010.


  • April 20, 2010  - Danny W says:

    Great Post Bob
    I think this draft is so deep at positions that this years second round draft will be about as good as the first round after the top five last year. If we can find one impact OLB, someone to stuff the middle at nose tackle, and to play lights out on the offensive line if someone gets hurt this year or to come in and start, it would be a successful draft. I didn’t forget we needed a safety either. Just saying three positions of need filled would really help out a lot.


  • April 20, 2010  - Niblick says:

    Great article Bob. However, I think the worst pick at No. 36 was Junior Siavi. I think he is with Dallas now, but he was a total bust here. I can hardly wait for this draft. I’ve looked at so many mock drafts I’m getting dizzy. My preference at No.5 is Berry. However, I hope whoever we take at 5 is an impact player. I want the two 2nd rounders to both be starters and not projects.


  • April 20, 2010  - gorillafan says:

    what do you guys think the odds are that we will finally get a primetime game this year???

    I predict we will, but I only see about 60/40 chance, but thats far greater than last years odds…

    We have added 2 great coaches, many new good/great players, and a new arrowhead, so if we dont get just one primetime game, I will be SCREAMING!!!


  • April 20, 2010  - Mad Chief says:

    gorillafan,

    I’d say the chances are not good. Small market team with a piss-poor record over the last three years? Doesn’t exactly scream viewer ratings.

    The Colts game might be our best shot. But of course, that wouldn’t really be us getting the game. Would be cool if it did happen, and we kicked their asses in “primetime” in front of a national audience. That would be sweet.

    We’ll find out later today.


  • April 20, 2010  - Gump says:

    gorillafan:
    Should get at least one. The unvieling of the “new” Arrowhead might secure it. I think that 10 of the last 14 times a new or re-worked stadium has opened, they’ve hosted a game there. With the history of the Hunt’s in the NFL, I can’t imagine being passed over.


  • April 20, 2010  - Jim Lloyd + says:

    I think there is at least 12 players on this team that are going to turn the corner for this year , with Matt working on his gym time . The three RB’s , TE’s in place to block — High power coaching –Brandon Flowers & Jackson are very good and getting better .
    It’s like ( with a little help ) just around the corner . I already know that a lot of guys on this team feel that they have more than good chance to roll through the W’s .


  • April 20, 2010  - gorillafan says:

    I know this isnt an important matter of the overall outcome of our season, but I do think its important that we do get a primetime game again. maybe it will help turn the tide alittle, players and or fans morale, whatever twist you want to put on it, but if we dont get one, I see us turning into the lions……and if we do maybe we can get our fanbase back like we had in the 90’s…..its a stretch i know, just a thot…..


  • April 20, 2010  - Enrique says:

    Gorillafan

    The Chiefs are going to be in primetime TV this season. Wait and see.


  • April 20, 2010  - Mad Chief says:

    Inside information, Enrique?


  • April 20, 2010  - Enrique says:

    Gut feeling Mad Chief. Sheer gut feeling.


  • April 20, 2010  - Enrique says:

    By the way Mad Chief, there’s a column coming up later in the evening; and furthermore, Bob has authorized a new section that we’ll be unveiling in just a few days.


  • April 20, 2010  - gorillafan says:

    Sweet, cant wait!!!! and Enrique, I hope your gut feeling is correct!!!


  • April 20, 2010  - Jim Lloyd + says:

    Enrique—
    To help your gut feeling , I have talked to players and guy’s who do know players and this year looks very do able .
    Todays game IS 80 to 90 % passing , Erick Berry is proably the biggest key to making it happen , along with who is here .
    The Steelers lost FIVE games last year and they were the games that Troy P. was out !
    Berry is a must !!!!!!!!!!!!


  • April 20, 2010  - Enrique says:

    Thanks for the insight Jim, and don’t worry…we’re about to find out.

    In fact, I’ll raise the stakes. If you take into account that because of the flexible Sunday programming, contending teams are usually showcased in the Sunday Night broadcasts, I’ll leave you with this: I truly believe that we’ll see the Chiefs play on Sunday Night this upcoming season. There. I said it.


  • April 20, 2010  - Enrique says:

    Bingo!

    Chiefs-Chargers. Week 1. Sunday Nighter


  • April 20, 2010  - Enrique says:

    Oops, turns out it is the MONDAY NIGHTER…Well, I guess I’ll have to “settle” for that.

    Just kidding.


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