NFL Review: Week #8
He has to be the most valuable player in the National Football League.
And, the Tennessee Titans have to be the best team in the league.
That’s the results from the eighth weekend of NFL play that finished up Monday night with Tennessee beating Indianapolis 31-21. The Titans won the game in come-back-fashion and at 7-0 remain the only unbeaten team in the league.
The Titans are proving they are not a pretender.
When the Philadelphia Eagles have Brian Westbrook, they are a contender in any season. When he’s down with injury, which seems to happen on a regular basis, the Eagles are an ordinary offensive team.
Coming back on Sunday from missing two of the last three games because of broken ribs, Westbrook returned to his All-Pro form and rushed for 167 yards and two touchdowns as part of a dynamic all-around effort, and the Eagles beat the Atlanta Falcons 27-14.
“He was dialed up,” Philly coach Andy Reid said of Westbrook.
Besides the 167 rushing yards, Westbrook also caught six passes for 42 yards. That totaled out to 28 offensive touches for 209 yards.
“It feels good to be back,” he said. “My ankle held up pretty well. My ribs held up pretty well. Things went well for me.”
There was the sprained ankle, which kept him out of the game against the Bears, and then the fractured ribs, which occurred on the first possession of the Redskins game and sidelined him for the 49ers game. Until Sunday, he had played little more than two games while healthy. As a result the Eagles offense had been very inconsistent.
The injuries nagged him throughout the game, but Westbrook said, “those are things you have to play through.”
The Eagles hope that they can get in the NFC East race if Westbrook can stay healthy.
“We need to get on a run,” Westbrook said
Performances to Remember
Baltimore had a 12:40 advantage in time of possession over Oakland … New England was not penalized in its game against St. Louis … Houston WR Andre Johnson recorded 143 yards on 11 catches, completing a month in which he totaled 41 receptions, 593 yards and two touchdowns … Ravens rookie QB Joe Flacco caught his first NFL pass, a 43-yard gain on a flea-flicker from backup QB Troy Smith.
Performances to Forget
Pittsburgh QB Ben Roethlisberger completed 13 of 29 for 189 yards with one TD, four INTs and five sacks for a passer rating of 38.5 … The Steelers were a combined 1-of-14 on third and fourth downs. They converted just 1 of 10 third-down attempts and failed on all four of their fourth-down attempts. … the Raiders had 47 yards rushing on 19 carries against Baltimore … Tampa Bay had 48 yards on 19 carries against Dallas … the Cowboys offense totaled 172 yards in beating the Bucs … Despite their victory, the Dolphins had just 52 rushing yards on 27 carries against Buffalo … Falcons PR Adam Jennings muffed a punt with just over two minutes to go and the Eagles recovered. On replays, Jennings appeared to avoid touching the ball, but Atlanta — down by 20-14 — was without timeouts and could not challenge the call.
Notes to Remember
The Baltimore Ravens got victory No. 100 in franchise history by beating Oakland … NFL rushing leader Clinton Portis has run for at least 120 yards in five straight games … the Dolphins beat the Bills for the first time since 2005 … The Patriots have won 13 straight games against the NFC … New England WR Randy Moss became the 19th player in NFL history with 800 career receptions. Moss has scored 13 touchdowns in 12 home games with New England … New Orleans QB Drew Brees has thrown for 200 yards in 12 consecutive games, the longest streak in the NFL … Philadelphia coach Andy Reid won his 100th career game … Cleveland has gone three straight games without a turnover … the Heinz Field crowd of 64,991 was the largest for a Steelers regular-season home game.
Notes to Forget
For the first time since Tony Dungy took over as head coach in 2002, the Colts have a losing record going into November … the Raiders are now 7-37 on the road since 2003 … The Jaguars fell to 2-4 following bye weeks under coach Jack Del Rio … the Bengals are 0-8 for the first time since 1994 … the 49ers have given up a league-high 69 points off turnovers this season, including 10 against the Seahawks on Sunday.
Longest Plays
Chiefs CB Brandon Flowers returned an interception 91 yards for a touchdown against the Jets.
Washington punt returner Santana Moss brought back a punt 80 yards for a TD against Detroit.
Seattle CB Justin Wilson returned an interception 75 yards for a touchdown against San Francisco.
Houston punt returner Jacoby Jones returned a punt 73 yards for a TD against Cincinnati.
Baltimore WR Demetrius Williams and QB Joe Flacco combined on a 70-yard TD pass against the Raiders.
St. Louis WR Donnie Avery and QB Marc Bulger combined on a 69-yard TD pass against New England.
Pittsburgh WR Nate Washington and QB Ben Roethlisberger combined on a 65-yard TD pass against the New York Giants.
Carolina WR Steve Smith and QB Jake Delhomme combined on a 65-yard TD pass against Arizona.
Miami WR Ted Ginn and QB Chad Pennington combined on a 64-yard pass completion against Buffalo.
Rushing
Philadelphia’s Brian Westbrook carried 22 times for 167 yards and two TDs against Atlanta.
Washington’s Clinton Portis had 24 carries for 126 yards against Detroit.
Carolina’s DeAngelo Williams ran 17 times for 108 yards and a TD against Arizona.
San Diego’s LaDainian Tomlinson had 19 carries for 105 yards against New Orleans.
Passing
Houston’s Matt Schaub hit 24 of 28 for 280 yards and three TDs against Cincinnati for a passer rating of 144.
Washington’s Jason Campbell was 23 of 28 for 328 yards and a TD against Detroit. That’s a 127.4 passer rating.
Carolina’s Jake Delhomme hit 20 of 28 for 248 yards and 2 TDs against Arizona for a passer rating of 122.3.
New Orleans’ Drew Brees was 30 of 41 for 339 yards and three TDs against San Diego. That’s a 121.9 passer rating.
Pass Receiving
Miami’s Ted Ginn caught seven passes for 175 yards against Buffalo.
Miami’s Donnie Avery caught six passes for 163 yards and one TD against New England
Houston’s Andre Johnson had 11 catches for 143 yards against Cincinnati.
Washington’s Santana Moss caught nine passes for 140 yards and one TD against Detroit.
Jacksonville’s Matt Jones had eight catches for 117 yards and one TD against Cleveland.
Carolina’s Steve Smith caught five passes for 117 yards and 2 TDs against Arizona.
Seattle FB Leonard Weaver caught four passes for 116 yards and 2 TDs against San Francisco.
Buffalo’s Lee Evans caught seven passes for 116 yards against Miami.
Arizona’s Larry Fitzgerald caught seven passes for 115 yards against Carolina.
Atlanta’s Roddy White had eight catches for 113 yards and 2 TDs against Philadelphia.
New England’s Randy Moss caught seven passes for 102 yards against St. Louis.
New York Jets’ Jerricho Cotchery caught nine passes for 102 yards against the Chiefs.
Chiefs WR Dwayne Bowe caught six passes for 102 yards against the Jets.
Special Teams
Washington’s Santana Moss returned a punt 80 yards for a TD against Detroit.
Houston’s Jacoby Jones returned a punt 73 yards for a TD against Cincinnati.
New York Giants got a safety against Pittsburgh when the Steelers backup deep snapper James Harrison sent his snap sailing out of the end zone.
Defense
Chiefs CB Brandon Flowers returned an interception 91 yards for a touchdown against the Jets.
Seattle CB Justin Wilson returned an interception 75 yards for a touchdown against San Francisco.
Baltimore’s LB J McClain sacked Oakland QB JaMarcus Russell in the end zone for a safety.
Miami tackled Buffalo’s Duke Preston in the end zone for a safety. Preston fell on a fumble by QB Trent Edwards.
San Diego gained a safety when New Orleans QB Drew Brees fumbled out of bounds in the end zone.
New York Giants LB Mathias Kiwanuka had five tackles, three sacks and forced a fumble against Pittsburgh.
Oakland LB Kirk Morrison had 13 tackles against Baltimore.
Miami LB Joey Porter had four tackles, two sacks, forced a fumble and recovered a fumble against Buffalo.
Injuries
Oakland RB Darren McFadden was not active due to a toe injury … the Ravens Brendon Ayanbadejo left the game with an ankle injury … Dallas TE Jason Witten suffered bruised ribs and left the game against Tampa Bay in the first half … Dallas CB Anthony Henry left the game in the third quarter with a bruised thigh … Tampa Bay safety Jermaine Phillips left the game against Dallas with an arm injury … Detroit FB Jerome Felton left the game in the second half … Buffalo WR Josh Reed left the game against Miami with a strained Achille’s tendon and did not return … Rams RB Steven Jackson missed the game with a strained right thigh muscle…. defensive end Leonard Little left in the first half with a hamstring injury…. Patriots CB Ellis Hobbs left the game in the fourth quarter with a shoulder injury … Atlanta DE Jamaal Anderson got his second career sack but later left with an injury and did not return. … Eagles TE L.J. Smith was knocked out of the game by a vicious Lawyer Milloy hit and did not return … Steelers long snapper Greg Warren was carted off the field with a knee injury in the third quarter … The Steelers also lost safety Ryan Clark to a shoulder injury…. Giants CB Kevin Dockery injured his back late in the second quarter and did not return … Seahawks Pro Bowl linebacker Lofa Tatupu left the game with a groin injury in the first half and did not return…. San Francisco lost TE Delanie Walker, WR Arnaz Battle, RT Barry Sims and kick returner Allen Rossum to injuries. Sims was on crutches with a walking boot on his left foot, while Walker thinks his injured elbow will be fine.
Former Chiefs
Arizona LB Monte Beisel was active against Carolina … Tampa Bay DE Jimmy Wilkerson had two tackles and DT Ryan Sims had a tackle and a sack against Dallas. Bucs RB Michael Bennett was not active for the game against Dallas … Buffalo LB Kawika Mitchell had six tackles and forced a fumble against Miami … St. Louis WR-KR Dante Hall caught four passes for 47 yards and four kickoff returns for 78 yards … QB Trent Green was active but did not play for the Rams against New England … LB Gary Stills had one special teams tackle for the Rams against the Patriots … Oakland DT Terdell Sands had five tackles against Baltimore … TE Kris Wilson was inactive for the Chargers against New Orleans … Saints LB Scott Fujita had three tackles against San Diego … LB Keyaron Fox was inactive for the Steelers against the Giants.
Ryan Sims actually got a sack over the weekend. Tyler Thigpen looked great. findthedr and True Red & Gold agreed on something yesterday….can’t remember what but I was shocked when I read it. I agreed with Rin Tin Tin on something……..
What weird freakin weekend! Something must be in the air besides the new-found fall chill right now.
By the way, does anyone know what picks we have coming to us next year from Tampa Bay for Sims and Michael Bennett. I seem to remember we got two picks for Bennett (we used one for Mike Merritt already) I thought we received an additional 7th for him in 2009 as well. Sims we traded before last year for a pick in 2009. Anyone know what it was? A friend of mine thought that it was a 4th but he was not at all confident that info was accurate. Feel free to chime in if you know (including you Bob!)
Oh, Colby, what does it matter? Don’t you know the Chiefs rebuilding effort has COLLAPSED?. It’s all right here:
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/861413.html
It’s over, man. Maybe I’ll become a Lions fan.
You have to take the bitter in order for the sweet to be sweeter….or something stupid like that.
As we struggle through his year it’ll be that much better when Clark Hunt cleans house in management and brings in some people who have fresh ideas and understand what it takes to win in this era of football. Herm and Carl are rooted in the early 90s (or earlier). They won’t change. They are too stubborn to change. The NFL changes and evolves a little bit every year. These guys don’t. I just want to know how many extra draft picks the new regime will have next spring when they try to fix this mess.
I just don’t understand the air of finality in this and other articles. Seven games into the season and the rebuilding plan has collapsed? We’re not rebuilding a transmission here, Joe!
I feel like the real season is just beginning. The Chiefs have had a tough schedule so far and have gone through a good amount of shake-out at key positions.
We’ve got our starting QB now, for better or worse. We’ve evaluated our options (with the possible exception of B. Rich.) on the O-line, D-line, and at running back. I have my doubts, but maybe our defense has figured out how to prevent 200+ yard rushing performances (if they haven’t by now they deserve a harsh judgement).
We’ve got our team. It’s not going to change much for the rest of the season. This is the foundation we’re going to have to improve on. We have a good idea of the capabilities of our remaining opponents; most of them are not the quality of the Titans, Panthers, or Falcons.
Every remaining game this season, including Tampa, should be considered winnable. No excuses.
Let’s at least see how successful we can be in these games before we start shoveling dirt on the rebuilding plan.
/end manifesto
Well ILChiefsFan, that article has many truths to it and is just another fine example of the Clark/Carl/Herm show. I know there are fans here that don’t or won’t see it this way do to they prefer to ware their Rose colored glasses all the time. Ho Hum.
Fair weather fans maybe? True fans take the good with the bad, no matter how bad the team is. The true fan will complain about the team when it sees the mistake and compliment the good. Jumping ship at something, anything you assume or hear from a blogger is asinine. what is a fair weather fan? I don’t know why I wrote this maybe it was in regards to ILChiefs message or the crap from Posnanski. Not sure, just want see who the real fans are, I guess.
Real fans stay on that sinking ship no matter what. Some of us complain more than others (I’m pretty critical for the most part) but regardless of the amount of gripe, we true fans won’t head for the lifeboats.
Sorry that is the dumbest thing written on this site. “real fans” “sinking ship” “true fans ….. lifeboats”.
Fans are fanactics. They want their team to win every game 63-0. They are nuts with false expectations. You cannot be a fan and stick with the sinking ship. Your team and world is way up there, it never sinks even if bad.
If you see anything wrong with the chiefs then you are probably not a “true fan.” So you are stuck with clark, carl, and herm until they leave.
I’ve come to the recent conclusion that the rebuilding timetable for the 2008 season matters not who the GM, QB, or coaches happen to be. At 1-6 the team would have to run the table from this point forward even if Vince Lombardi jumped from the grave to coach them. Not likely. (That Vince jumps or the Chiefs finish 9-0..take your choice).
Better to let the personnel in place to either redeem themselves or sink deeper in the abyss. If there is a new regime for 2009, I’m sure that group would prefer to start off a clean sheet of paper than get involved in the mess the Chiefs find themselves in at present.
So, in a sense, heads you win, tails you win, regardless of your desires to stay the course or throw the bastids out right now.
I couldn’t find “true fan” in the dictionary, so I’m not really interested in what anyone else’s definition is. Everyone has their own opinion.
It was a little depressing reading Joe’s article since he always seems to have a positive outlook on the Royals. If he can do that, then this negative look at the Chiefs is a real bummer. He did have some good points, but not sure what he was getting to. How can rebuilding be over? Do you just sell the team and move away? Is this a one-shot deal? Jeez, the Lions have been rebuilding for decades. Did someone overlook them? They even play on Thanksgiving every year!
I am the first to say I would like a different head coach and GM. However, anyone who thought this one draft was going to result in 100% great players who would turn the franchise around is crazy. I was hoping for about 70% of them to hit. Need a big number to get better fast. I don’t think we are far off of that really. The two biggest question marks so far are the two that haven’t even suited up yet (Robninson and Merrit). I’m not as down on Dorsey as others. I still look at Mario Williams of the Texans. Fans were writing him off after the first year.
Unfortunately, I don’t think Edwards has the ability to do much more with them. He just isn’t a good head coach. I am firmly with Joe P. in his total shock at the final series of the Jets game. I’ve read the arguments about that being the “smart football move”. It wasn’t. It is the same as playing great defense all game and then going to the “prevent” in the last 2 minutes and allow the other team to march into field goal range in 3 plays. When you haven’t been able to run the ball for 4 quarters, why would you even think you could do so for 3 straight plays? And with a 1-5 team at that? The coaching staff lost a lot of credibility with the players on that one. The post-game comments/”no comment” told that story.
I am not ready to say the rebuilding is a failure, just 6 games behind. I count the Jets game as game 1. I expected a lot of those types of games this year, not the blowouts.
tm1946 says:
“Sorry that is the dumbest thing written on this site. “real fans”Âť “sinking ship”Âť “true fans ….. lifeboats”Âť.
Fans are fanactics. They want their team to win every game 63-0. They are nuts with false expectations. You cannot be a fan and stick with the sinking ship. Your team and world is way up there, it never sinks even if bad.
If you see anything wrong with the chiefs then you are probably not a “true fan.”Âť So you are stuck with clark, carl, and herm until they leave”
Not really sure what your point is. Is your point that a true fan only is appeased by a 63-0 win and if they don’t get if they jump ship? Is it that it’s not okay to see and point out flaws in the team? Is it that I’m stuck with Herm and Carl BECAUSE I’m not a true fan?
Better make a coherent point before labeling someone’s opinion as dumbest thing on the site pal. You can find my opinion “dumb” all you like. That’s your right of course. But try to make some sense if you’re going to call it out.
I can’t find anything coherent in your above quote.
MenInRed,
I don’t know if the “rose-colored glasses” statement was directed at me; if so, I wanted to respond. Sorry for the length.
First of all, you can find criticisms of Carl, Herm, playcalling, coaching, drafting, et.al., by me throughout this site. I’m not blind to these things. I really do try, however, to separate objective reality from BS (both optimistic and pessimistic) when looking at the Chiefs. And my BS detector tends to go off when I see someone making Grand Pronouncements.
I was specifically criticizing Poz’s Grand Pronouncement that the rebuilding process has “collapsed”. Here are SOME of the problems I have with Joe’s piece:
“They would play together… ” – Did someone on the Chiefs promise that every player on the team would be happy and content this year?
“…as long as the narrative stayed intact, everyone would have something to believe in.” This is JOE’S “narrative”! HE made it up, and now he’ll proceed to use it as a yardstick to measure the viability of the rebuilding process.
“You cannot have a “We are rebuilding”Âť narrative without a quarterback. It’s pointless.” – More of Joe making the rules. This sounds profound, but ignores the fact that teams have rebuilt without a big-name quarterback. See, for example, the article on kcchiefs.com about Tampa’s rebuilding under Tony Dungy. Who was their QB? Or is Joe saying that the Chiefs LITERALLY don’t have a quarterback?
“So, the Chiefs had no young quarterback. That threw the rebuilding thing out the window.” – That’s right, the rebuilding is out the window. Says who? Joe’s strawman, that’s who!
“Gonzalez feels as if he was lied to.” – I don’t doubt it. Huge screw-up on the part of Peterson. So is Joe saying this has killed the rebuilding process? If so, no actual proof is offered; just Joe’s “narrative”.
“Now, no matter what anyone says, there’s a real rift here, a rift that will only grow as the season goes along.” – First of all, unless Joe is omniscient, what will happen as bthe season goes along is an assumption, not a statement of fact. And once again, is this an argument that the rebuilding process has collapsed? If so, I’d like to see Joe make an explicit connection.
“That same day, the Chiefs confirmed that they are close to signing retired quarterback Daunte Culpepper.” – Did the Chiefs actually say this? Did I miss that announcement? They said they were bringing him in for a workout; how close that is to signing him is a matter of opinion.
“Instead, the new narrative is that the Chiefs are trying to get better with a 19-year general manager who has a losing record over the last 11, a coach who plays not to lose the game, an inactive running back, an unhappy tight end, a defense that can’t stop the run, possibly a quarterback who retired at the beginning of the year and an owner who thinks everything’s going well.” – 1. Why choose the last 11 seasons? Because if it’s 12, or 6, it becomes a winning record. If you’re going to play with statistics like that, why not choose 3, or 5? Because they don’t give the impression that Carl’s been a failure for over a decade? 2. What does the offensive playcalling last week have to do with the viability of the rebuilding process? Make the connection, please. 3. Yes, our defense, which is essentially 7 games old, has not been able stop the run except in a couple of games (or, in Joe’s words, “can’t stop the run”). The rebuild is dead! 4. Joe doesn’t really know what the owner thinks. He does know what the owner said, but doesn’t bother to supply an actual quote for our evaluation.
As I’ve said before I like Joe’s writing, and he’s entitled to his opinion, but my reluctance to accept Joe’s “narrative” does not equate to wearing glasses of any tint.
BTW – Do you agree that the rebuilding process has “collapsed”? If so, why? Do you think any of Joe’s arguments apply?
Rich,
My thoughts almost exactly. Can we let the team actually have their season before we decide whether or not it was a disaster?
Excellent post ILChiefsFan, you have a stronger stomach than I do, I didn’t make it a 3rd of the way through the article.
The articles I like to read offer facts, not just opinion, just give me the facts (it’s ok to add rumor but must be labeled as such) and let me decide my own opinion.
The guy obviously was desperate for something to write.
JohnNdallas,
If YOU agree with me, then I KNOW I haven’t drunk the Kool-Aid.
I agree guys. The JPos article seemed to be a week late. The Chiefs actually showed some life on Sunday. If a columnist wants to stir up the fan base after the humilation suffered at the hands of the Titans that’s one thing, but I just can’t figure out what Joe would write that article right after an impressive effort on the road.
In the end, columnists like JPos and Whitlock get paid to write their opinions, even if they are based upon questionable facts and theories. Reporters like Teicher and Rand bring you mainly the facts, with a dash of personality here and there. Both styles have merit and entertainment value, but since opinions are being offered, I’d have to say Joe misfired with this latest offering.
LOL IL. I don’t know if I should take that as an insult, or to be flattered LOL
I will have to wade in here and say these articles are why I Prefer not to go to the KC Star to get information. I am disappointed we didn’t win Sunday but at least we remained competitive for the whole game and showed some real grit in fighting back time and again. I believe there were some questionable (non) calls as well as questionable play calling that may or may not have lost the game for us. I feel there were plenty of mistakes made in every facet of the game that cost us in the end. I am just hoping that we have finally hit rock bottom and are now finally starting the long slow climb back to respectability. I know this is only my opinion and who knows what is going to transpire for the rest of the season, but I am trying to have some hope for this year. BTY, anyone else see this article?
Adam Schefter
Culpepper has “Ëśgreat workout’ with the Lions
Posted: October 28th, 2008 | Adam Schefter | Tags: Daunte Culpepper, Detroit Lions
Our friend Daunte Culpepper just weighed in with the latest info on his status.
“I had a great workout and meetings with the Lions today,”Âť Culpepper wrote.
Whether that translates into a contract is another question. But Culpepper promised to email any updates, so when we have them, you will too.
Hey guys did you vote for Brandon Flowers for rookie of the week!
http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=rookies
Thanks Merwin, I did my civic duty.
OK guys, here’s my opinion(I’m not getting paid so take it for what it’s worth). Is this team sometimes painful to watch-yes. Do I think there’s improvement-Yes. Do I think bad decisions have been made-yes. Could I do any better-maybe(probably not). Am I sticking with the Chiefs and hoping for the best-absolutly! I’ve been a fan since SB IV,I’m taking my kid’s to our yearly game this weekend( I’m 200 miles away so can’t afford more), and I’m not getting the KC arrowhead removed from my arm so we’ll be there chearing for our team. Come join us if possible, if not, look for us on TV. we’ll be the one’s in red.
ILChiefsFan said:
I just don’t understand the air of finality in this and other articles. Seven games into the season and the rebuilding plan has collapsed? We’re not rebuilding a transmission here, Joe!
I feel like the real season is just beginning. The Chiefs have had a tough schedule so far and have gone through a good amount of shake-out at key positions.
We’ve got our starting QB now, for better or worse. We’ve evaluated our options (with the possible exception of B. Rich.) on the O-line, D-line, and at running back. I have my doubts, but maybe our defense has figured out how to prevent 200+ yard rushing performances (if they haven’t by now they deserve a harsh judgement).
We’ve got our team. It’s not going to change much for the rest of the season. This is the foundation we’re going to have to improve on. We have a good idea of the capabilities of our remaining opponents; most of them are not the quality of the Titans, Panthers, or Falcons.
Every remaining game this season, including Tampa, should be considered winnable. No excuses.
Let’s at least see how successful we can be in these games before we start shoveling dirt on the rebuilding plan.
Man IlChiefsfan, I think I need to buy you a beer. Finally someone on here agrees with me.
Have Fun Gump!, I’ll be watching, no offense but I hope you and your family being in red doesn’t stand out to bad
Thanks John. I doubt we’ll be the only one’s.
Anyone else notice how well our defensive line put pressure on Favre? I’ve seen/heard several comments this week how Favre almost blew this game for the Jets with his poor play. I would like to give our D-line some credit for ‘forcing’ the issue. I think the coaching staff deserves some credit for moving Hali back to the left side. Perhaps McBride will develop into a solid RDE.
Gump,
Have fun this Sunday. This will be one of those high risk/high reward games. It would be just incredible to be there if the Chiefs won.
Justin,
Geography is probably working against that beer thing, so I’ll just pop one open tonight and pretend you bought it for me. You seem like a generous guy; maybe I’ll pop open a couple!
The thing I like best about the commenters on Bob’s blog is that I can find at least some small area of agreement with almost every one of them. Not always possible on other Chiefs fan sites.
ILChiefsFan,
Amen brother.
CARDS The owner buys a deck , the Gen. manager shuffles–coach deals the best cards to the best players. Whoever plays : finds it is not all luck. Who finialy found the old crystal ball, I thought it got lost when they started football years ago ? I do feel good that there is now a few folks out there that act like they have one . But then , I ask why do we go to all this trouble to suit up & play these games . with NO suprises I would find it all very boring . Last Sunday 5 out 7 pregame pros on T.V. picked the loser , thinking & saying that would be the winner– what did the other 2 know ? MAYBE — thats why the start the clock & play it with the best cards they have to work with . Why do I live for this game and love it . The beer part OK