Free Agent QBs 2012 – Part #2

Here is the list of restricted-unrestricted free agent quarterbacks available.

Here is a list of street free agent quarterbacks that are available.

Here’s part #1 of the free agent quarterback story.

Competition is coming for starting quarterback Matt Cassel. That’s what Scott Pioli and Romeo Crennel have promised for the 2012 season.

Just who might provide that competition has been the subject of our musing this week on the site. There are over 60 NFL experienced quarterbacks that are or will be available when free agency begins in March. We sifted through the candidates and have come up with a top five candidates. The criteria that drove our analysis was two things – a QB who will be 30 or under in the 2012 season, with NFL starting experience.

We’ve listed our candidates in order of preference, with Alex Smith of San Francisco and Jason Campbell in Oakland at No.1-2. Here are the next three, topped by a QB that the Chiefs know very well.

3. Kyle Orton/Chiefs

Numbers – 6-4, 225 pounds; he will turn 30 in the middle of November (11/14/1982); seven seasons with three different teams, playing in 71 games with 69 starts, including three at the end of last year with the Chiefs; his record as a starting QB is 35-34; he’s thrown 80 TD passes to 57 INTs; Orton has thrown for 14,532 yards, completing 51.6 percent of his passes; he’s never been much of a runner, with 274 yards on 110 carries, or 2.5 yards per carry.

Strength/Weakness – Chiefs got to see all of both during his three-game starting stretch; wide variety of opinion on his arm strength. Coming out of Purdue, he had the strongest arm in the draft class to the NFL. Now some claim he has one of the weaker arms in the league. It seems more of a question of accuracy, which is high for short and intermediate routes and not so much on deeper throws – not very different than any other quarterback; is a pocket passer who does not show the skills to escape and make things happen on the run; improve is not a strength; tough-minded and stands in the pocket and takes hits; decision making can be inconsistent and generally depends on how much pressure he’s feeling in the pocket.

Info – Originally a fourth-round selection by Chicago in the 2004 NFL Draft and became an immediate injury-replacement starter as a rookie when Rex Grossman went down and Chad Hutchinson was ineffective; he was part of the 2009 trade between Chicago and Denver, where he went to the Broncos in exchange QB Jay Cutler and various draft choices; Orton has battled QBs like Grossman, Brian Griese, Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn and not always won those competitions; shares the same agent (Dave Dunn) as Matt Cassel, and the two are friends.

Financials – Coming into the league from the NFL Draft, Orton signed a 4-year, $1.8 million deal with a $458,000 signing bonus; he re-upped with the Bears in 2009 signing a one-year deal for $2.395 million in salary and bonuses; when traded to the Broncos, there was a two-year deal for a total of $11.621 million. Last year in his time in Denver and then with the Chiefs (who claimed him and his contract on waivers) he was paid a total of $8.879 million.

Overview – For the Chiefs to provide competition for Cassel, Orton is the safest pick because they got six weeks to inspect the package last year. However, there’s a new offense in the house with a new coordinator in Brian Daboll and an altered scheme. The Chiefs have said publicly (Pioli and Crennel) that they would like to have Orton back and they may have to show him to the money to make that happen. There figures to be interest in Orton around the league and possibly a better chance to become a starter than to supposedly “compete” with an incumbent starter.

Quarterback

Season

G/S

Att

Cmp

%

Yds

Avg Per Att

TD

INT

Scks

Kyle Orton

2011

9/8

252

150

59.5

1,758

6.9

9

9

10

Kyle Orton

Career

71/69

2,204

1,284

58.3

14,532

6.6

80

57

132

Matt Cassel

Career

69/54

1,767

1,042

59.0

11,699

6.6

76

45

141

 

4. Vince Young/Philadelphia

Numbers – 6-5, 232 pounds; he will be 29 years old in May (5/18/1983); played 6 seasons, and was a starter for the majority of the season in just half of those seasons (2006-07, 2009); his TD to INT ratio is 46-51; very good runner, gaining 1,459 yards on 282 carries for 5.2 yards per carry.

Strength/Weakness – Top notch athletic skills with perfect size for an NFL quarterback; strong but inaccurate arm, he can throw it through a wall, but will throw high and low, hurting his accuracy; has a bit of a funky throwing motion, holding the ball too low, but overcomes that for the most part with his 6-5 height and arm strength; not a classic drop back quarterback, he’s been at his best getting out of the pocket and throwing on the run, or taking off on the run himself; sometimes he’s too aggressive throwing the ball, taking chances with throws that often get picked off; hard worker who over his career has worked to improve his game.

Info – Star-crossed talent that made the Pro Bowl twice while with the Titans, but had great controversy off the field and lost his starting job several times to lesser talents; tends to engage mouth before brain and that gets him into odd situations, like his proclamation that the Eagles last year were football’s “Dream Team.” That one blew up in his face.

Financials – Coming out of the NFL Draft, Young signed a 5-year, $58 million deal with the Titans, including $25.74 million in guaranteed money; released last July by Tennessee, he signed a 1-year, $5.5 million deal with the Eagles.

Overview – A gifted player that with the right offense – aggressive and allowing him to use his strengths – can be an NFL star again; he’s not really had any serious health issues, and considering the lack of play time in recent seasons, he’s body hasn’t been exposed to a lot of hits; if a team signs Young, the only way it works is if he fits the offense. Chiefs offensive coordinator Brian Daboll says he wants to be aggressive. Just what that means we’ll have to see once the offense gets on the field. Young can bring aggressive QB play.

Quarterback

Season

G/S

Att

Cmp

%

Yds

Per Att

TD

INT

Scks

Vince Young

2011

6/3

114

66

57.9

866

7.6

4

9

8

Vince Young

Career

60/50

1,304

755

57.9

8,964

6.9

46

51

83

Matt Cassel

Career

69/54

1,767

1,042

59.0

11,699

6.6

76

45

141

 

5. Chad Henne/Miami

Numbers – 6-3, 230 pounds; he will turn 27 in July (7/2/1985); he’s spent 4 seasons with the Dolphins, playing in 36 games with 31 starts; his record as a starting QB was 13-18; Miami selected him in the second round of the 2008 NFL Draft at the No. 57 selection; his TD-INT ratio is 31-37; not much of a runner, gaining 196 yards on 66 carries.

Strength/Weakness – A classic drop back passer, Henne has the physical tools to be successful as an NFL career. He sets up quick and has good arm strength. He can deliver the ball; Smart person and player that seems to understand his duties, the offense and the coverages he’s facing on the field, although that doesn’t always show up in his play; there are real questions about his game after four seasons, especially on managing the game, working in the red zone and consistency from week to week.

Info – Henne finished the 2011 season on the injured-reserve list after he suffered a separated left shoulder and had to undergo surgery in early October; selected in the 2008 NFL Draft by Bill Parcells who was then running the Dolphins, Henne reported had Parcells pulling out his hair in two seasons with Miami; he lost his starting job with the Dolphins twice, once because of poor play and then the shoulder injury that finished his season. It’s not a particularly impressive resume.

Financials – Coming out of the NFL Draft in the second round, Henne signed a 4-year, $3.5 million contract with the club.

Overview – Look at the numbers below and it would not seem that Henne will provide tough competition for Cassel. He’s still has miles to go in his development, but with all the physical tools there’s no reason he shouldn’t be able to make giant strides of improvement with intensive coaching. He’s also unlikely to have a lot of attention or cost a lot of money.

Quarterback

Season

G/S

Att

Cmp

%

Yds

Per Att

TD

INT

Scks

Chad Henne

2011

4/4

112

64

57.1

868

7.8

4

4

11

Chad Henne

Career

36/31

1,065

646

60.7

7,114

6.7

31

37

67

Matt Cassel

Career

69/54

1,767

1,042

59.0

11,699

6.6

76

45

141


11 Responses to “Free Agent QBs 2012 – Part #2”

  • February 21, 2012  - Blake says:

    If I had to rate the 5 QB’s I would put them like this:

    1. Smith
    2. Orton
    3. Campbell
    4. Henne
    5. Young

    You have to remember that Miami was trying to trade for Orton last off season with the Broncos. Who was with Miami last year? Our new Offensive Coordinator. I hope they resign Orton but I will stick with my prediction of KC signing Henne to compete with Cassel.


  • February 21, 2012  - ED J says:

    I would put Orton over Smith. Smith had decent season last yr but like Cassel mostly benefited off strong run game. Orton had Broncos passing game in top 5 when he and Josh McDaneiel was together. If they had anything close to run game and defense those yrs Denver might would have won division. Smith would be close second with Campbell. Campbell has been on bunch horrible teams with not nearly talent Smith had in San Francisco. Henne would be next then probably Vince Young. We’re likely to get either Orton, Campbell or Henne to compete with Cassel. I think Orton will find starting job somewhere else which leave me to believe it will be either Campbell or Henne headed to KC.


  • February 21, 2012  - Canada Brad says:

    Why no mention of Matt Flynn I wonder? He seems to be the best free agent QB prospect (outside of Drew Brees).


  • February 21, 2012  - txchief says:

    Okay, experts out there, what do you have to say in regards to Pioli’s comments that he would like to retain Carr as well as Routt?

    Please refrain from the the usual “cheap ass Chiefs” and the worn out epithets used to describe Pioli and Hunt. Perhaps you might see that there is a plan to improve the team.

    I terms of the QBs, no, no, no to Young. Henne only as a last resort.


  • February 21, 2012  - Blake says:

    I think Pioli truly does want Carr back. I think Carr wants to stay here also, his best friend is Flowers and has been for 4 years. I think Pioli is wanting to show Carr that he doesn’t have all the power and that he is not going to get the money that he wants, here. It is up to Carr to accept a fair deal, less than he would get in FA but to stay with his home team, like a hometown discount. I think Carr will walk tbh. He wants the money over anything else. Most of this is just my opinion but I am willing to bet that it is pretty close to the way things are. I would like to see Carr back but I have serious doubts…


  • February 22, 2012  - Chuck says:

    Out of Bobs 5 QB’s mentioned I would clearly take Orton. He showed me last year that he can definitley get the job done.


  • February 22, 2012  - ED J says:

    Yea I selfishly hope Orton doesn’t fine another team willing to make him unquestion starter. I think he’ll be great fit for our team. I would love see this guy come back compete with Cassel. I mean if he wants to win this is best fit. He can go to Browns be unquestioned starter but what is point if talent is bad and you’re losing. Then at some point you’ll be benched in yr or 2 for a young guy. Same in Washington. They don’t have alot talent offensively. So to me its same situation. Will see how it play out though.


  • February 22, 2012  - el cid says:

    Sorry I do not like any of the QBs. None would displace Cassel, nationally the lack of quality at QB is a major holdback for the team.

    tx, about Pioli’s comments. Anyone can say anything and be less than truthfull. Look at it this way. No matter what, there is only so much money to go around. We are getting soaked by Jackson and Dorseys contracts. We need a backup QB, backup up RB, OLinemen, and depth almost across the board. All that takes money. Routt got the payday at CB, not enough left for Carr at his expected level. It is not about being cheap it having to cover so many shortages left unattended for the last three years. A couple of extra veteran free agents might have helped. But I still think the organization is oriented toward to something other than winning it all. Good enough – is the byword and toss in a little cheap for flavor.


  • February 22, 2012  - el cid says:

    To cont. Pioli banked about 20 mil each of his years in charge. Hunt says he will cut loose 20 mil from last year but he cannot spend the other 40 mil league rules. Had Pioli picked up 2 FRs each year, we might have had 6 positions filled or with depth and Hunt could have kept his mouth shut and kept the rest. This is what can happen if you build on the cheap.


  • February 22, 2012  - cychief24 says:

    ill cid- if the Chiefs make you so unhappy why do you follow them?
    I hope Carr signs for Routt’s money. If not, good luck.
    I was all for Orton until he flopped short of the critical 1st down vs. the raidas. He showed a wimp factor that was a major factor that cost us the division. Plus the 2 INT’s…
    Just give me a cheap back up QB that has NFL experience so we have bucks for RT (most important need) and starting NG.


  • February 23, 2012  - el cid says:

    Thanks for the advice but based on your comments, no thanks.

    About Orton, wow, 2 ints and one flop and you are done. God, what do you think of Cassel? Or Len Dawson, he stunk in Pitts.




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